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kameha2
05-18-2003, 09:34 AM
yeah that's the question i want to ask you people.

Yodums
05-18-2003, 09:45 AM
When you say weight, what are you referring to exactly?

I do care about grip size. I like my grip in a medium size. Not too small and not too big with a knob at the bottom.

Joanne
05-18-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Yodums
When you say weight, what are you referring to exactly?


Umm... I'm guessing weight of the racquet??? I DO care about the weight of my racquet... not that I'm a good player. :p I prefer racquets that are not too heavy, not too light. I feel there's not enough power in too light racquets, while heavy racquets are too heavy...

I like middle sized grips too...but small sized ones are okay... not as comfortable as medium-sized ones though.... and I hate fat grips!!! :mad: :)

kameha2
05-18-2003, 10:14 AM
weight as in 2U 3U 4U

yodums, joanne are you saying that you are good players? :cool:

Joanne
05-18-2003, 10:19 AM
Oops sorry, I was hoping noone will post while I was editing... anyway I am not saying I'm a good player, I'm just replying from my point of view... :p

kameha2
05-18-2003, 10:20 AM
:mad: becoz i am referring to good players :) :D :D :D

Joanne
05-18-2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by kameha2
:mad: becoz i am referring to good players :) :D :D :D

Hehe... then wait for the good players to come!!! But why do you say they don't care about it??? As far as I know... these are very important... I doubt few here won't care about their grips and weight of their racquets...

kameha2
05-18-2003, 10:32 AM
yes they are important for most of beginner-intermediate players.

I have few friends who are malaysian, indonesian state players and they do not even know what is all the different U & G s.

Cheung
05-18-2003, 10:33 AM
I can't answer the question. Not good enough *sigh*:( And I do worry about my weight...nearly 70kgs..

Joanne
05-18-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Cheung
I can't answer the question. Not good enough *sigh*:( And I do worry about my weight...nearly 70kgs..

LOL!!! As if you're not good enough... :p

Umm... we're talking about racquet weight here... I'll worry about my racquet weight too if it were 70 kg... :p

Kameha2, as far as I know the grip and weight of the racquet doesn't matter to beginners or intermediate much... usually don't start worrying about that until they really know their game etc... well... according to MY experience...

Oh! btw, you shouldn't ask for good players only to reply to this thread... because many people here are very humble about their talents... e.g. Cheung. :D

kameha2
05-18-2003, 10:44 AM
i am sure if i open the question to beginner - intermediate, 90% of them do care about the U & G s.:p

Joanne
05-18-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by kameha2
i am sure if i open the question to beginner - intermediate, 90% of them do care about the U & G s.:p

Oh really? Maybe...maybe not. But whatever level I'm considered to be in now, I care about my racquet weight and grip... and I've always cared about it since I started badminton... :p

p/s, think I'm intermediate... but if by adults level should be beginners... :rolleyes:

ArchDevil145
05-18-2003, 10:05 PM
My friends (who are novices as well as I) say that the lighter, the better.

LazyBuddy
05-18-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ArchDevil145
My friends (who are novices as well as I) say that the lighter, the better.

Do a search, many debates over statements like this. Extremly ppl's preference questions.

Of course, $5 (l30+ gram???) racket could be killers for wrist, but in reasonable range, not necessary lighter is better.

LazyBuddy
05-18-2003, 10:14 PM
Kameha2,


Can NOT understand ur question in a very clear way.

To me, it really depend on the situation:

1. If pros happen to face regular club lvl players (like me), then, of course, whatever rackets they use, they can kill me 15-0 in 20 sec. This way, u can 100% say, regardless the features and performance of equipment, they can be much better than we are. However, it's not because of the equipment, it's because their SKILL lvl is much better than mine.

2. If they have to face each other, well, u see the pros are really sticking into 1 or 2 spec. models for their everyday's choice. Of course, this also to do with the sponsorship contract, but they still have their favorite choices. (serach thread like "players and their rackets") U never see a top pro, dare to pick up a $10 cheap steel racket, and use it in international stage. Why? Because, the players over there are really good, and wont' be a huge difference among each other. They might need to dig out every single piece of performance of their "weapon" to gain better chance to win.

Just my own point of view... ;)

Cheung
05-18-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by kameha2
i am sure if i open the question to beginner - intermediate, 90% of them do care about the U & G s.:p

A lot of people will care about equipment differences. Some don't. The higher the level of expertise, the less important the actual technical differences become and more important is just how comfortable the racquet feels to the user.

Maybe another factor you can consider is the the type of games played. If it is a tournament, a high level person may take more care over their equipment. If it is just social games, any racquet might do.

TOmike
05-18-2003, 11:08 PM
cuz good players do what we always say "pick the racquet you like".
in a way they are much more in the dark about equipment, so they do what other people tell them to "pick what you like". they dont' care about muscle power, or titanium mesh, to them, if it feels good, if it helps them win, they'll use it. i bet a lot of us buy just cuz its a yonex or because its got some crazy technology.. they are like children, it doesn't matter to them. to children, the building blocks brands don't matter, as long as they fit together.

bluejeff
05-18-2003, 11:22 PM
Well, the weight of the racquet does affect the feelings of swinging, and yes, I do care about the weight. (as long as it's not 1U; too heavy)

About the grip, I don't care as long as it fits, the only thing I care about the grip is the color:p

Gotta be blue:)

kameha2
05-19-2003, 12:18 AM
hi my question is referring to same racquet ... but different U & G s.

I noticed most of good players know which racquet that they prefer to use

eg. A prefer MP-100 while B prefer Ti-10

but I noticed, they do not even bother about the grip size (G s) and the weight (U s)

as long as A play with MP-100, he is happy
as long as B play with Ti-10, he is happy

LazyBuddy
05-19-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by kameha2


as long as A play with MP-100, he is happy
as long as B play with Ti-10, he is happy

Ok, correct me if I am wrong. I assume the "good players" u referring are the ones got sponsors, not just a above average club level player.

Then, maybe when the sponsor provide the rackets, they've already limited the range. Say, generally within a range of Us and Gs, which won't make too much a difference. For example, G2, G3...

The rackets with extreme features, like 4U, U seems not very popular among sponsored rackets anyway. Therefore, within such a small range, maybe top players don't really need to "care" about selections, since they won't be that much different anyway.

Oranjmaan
05-19-2003, 02:38 PM
The weight isn't THAT much of a deal, especially when compared to balancing. If i'm looking for manuverable racquet that feels light in the head, a 2u racquet balanced way to the grip would be better than a 3u racquet balanced at like 30 some centimetres.

And yea, I can definitely see how int'nl lvl players don't worry about marketing hype and catchphrases such as musclepower and titanium, but go with the racquets that feel the best to them. However, it can't be denied that musclepower really does affect string bed repulsion, and that ti threads can increase stiffness.

ArchDevil145
05-19-2003, 04:41 PM
As for my racket, its about 103 grams and feels good just that theres so many scratches on the head because of too many shuttle pick-ups (I'm still trying to master that without hitting the floor.)

bluejeff
05-19-2003, 09:51 PM
I think LB may be right.
What if the sponser only give you 2U racquets? You can either take them or leave them, which you would you pick? (especially they are probably free)

modious
05-19-2003, 09:59 PM
No, I don't think kameha2 is referring to ppl who have sponsers.

Perhaps this is the way it is in Asia. I know of ppl who don't know sh*t (or don't care) about grip size, weight, etc but they sure are good. Well as ppl have said..... it's your skills that matters, not the racket.

ArchDevil145
05-20-2003, 08:37 AM
I agree. I don't know much about those U's and G's. But the skill is foremost the most needed factor in badminton.

swijaya0101
05-20-2003, 09:14 AM
kameha,

allow me to add in eventhough i am only a beginner :p :p

personally i dont care about the U's and G's ... after 10-20 shots i guess we will get used to it.

ArchDevil145
05-20-2003, 04:41 PM
I agree with swijaya. My grandma bought me a racket last time and I started using it for practice and I was terrible (never felt that way with any racket) I had the thought of using a different racket but then I sticked to my new racket and eventually I got the hang of it. So mainly the problem is my attitude.