View Full Version : Malaysia vs Korea Transnasional Invitation Badminton Challenge
wilfredlgf 06-30-2003, 06:14 PM First leg of three (1/3) played in Alor Star Kedah.
===MEN===
Malaysia 4 South Korea 1
Wong Choon Hann bt Lee Hyun-Il 15-6, 15-6;
Chong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah by Yim Bang-eun-Kim Young-hyun 15-9, 15-10;
Mohd Hafiz Hashim bt Shon sueng-mo 17-14, 15-2;
Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng lost to Kim Dong-moon-Lee Dong-soo 6-15, 15-11, 11-15;
Lee Tsuen Seng bt Park Sung-hwan 15-6, 15-10
==WOMEN==
South Korea 4 Malaysia 1
Kim Yeung-ran lost to Wong Mew Choo 8-11, 11-13;
Lee Hyo-jung-Hwang Yu-mi bt Fong Chew Yen-Norashikin Amin 15-5, 15-5;
Jun Jae-youn bt Wong Miew Kheng 11-3, 11-1;
Ra Kyung-min-Lee Kyung-won bt Wong Pei Tty-Chin ee Hui 15-5, 15-6;
Hwang Yu-mi bt Woon Sze Mei 11-2, 11-7
Wow, good showing by Malaysia in Men's friendlies. WCH sure dispatched Lee HI quickly. It seems Lee can only pull off great victories at certain times.
Korean's weakest point though, is probably their women's singles. They should have played Jae Youn Jun who (I think) is better, instead of Kim Kyeung Ran.
wilfredlgf 07-01-2003, 07:56 PM The local paper highlighted Wong Mew Choo's efforts against Kim Yeung-ran which is considered quite remarkable.
I have a feeling that Mew Choo is likely to go far if she keeps getting quality matches like this.
Bring on China! :D
wl2172 07-02-2003, 05:04 AM Yes, I think she is shaping up nicely. I have seen her play before, very good racquet skills and quite fast around the court.
However, like most Malaysian lady-players, she is quite small in size and probably not much power. But her skill makes up for it.
spectra 07-02-2003, 08:07 AM it's anybody goin to the final at klba there????
i'm thinking to go with my fren... :D
wilfredlgf 07-02-2003, 05:06 PM I have a colleague who could virtually walk there (KLBA)! We're wondering whether we want to go there as well... :)
RTM 1 will carry a live telecast on Saturday from 3-6pm.
spectra 07-03-2003, 12:26 AM Bbn....
thanks for the info dude!! now i don't think i'm going ....because i have softball training in the morning , and i haven't even buy the ticket yet, somemore my friend's not going . So stay home and watch the match :D
I'll really miss the oppotunity to have my picture taken with the korens :(
i'll have to wait for more than 4 years or more i guess for them to come back to KL
Cheung 07-03-2003, 03:32 AM noo!! I'm on the plane back to KL during those hours. Have to get somebody to record it.
spectra 07-03-2003, 09:51 AM why choose that hour to come back???? should choose a day early.... :D
maybe when you reach klia you can sit the ERL to KL sentral then take Putra LRT to Masjid Jamek later switch to Star LRT to Maluri Station and walk all the way straight with your lugguge to the stadium...cause i don't think they'll finish at time ....and like before..they'll rest before they go back...so maybe can have the chance to at lease meet them...
HAHA...
or see the last few points....
:D
modious 07-05-2003, 05:06 AM Originally posted by Bbn
RTM 1 will carry a live telecast on Saturday from 3-6pm.
Will there be a repeat telecast?
I recorded it from about 4.20pm to 6pm. And 6.20pm-7pm.
Missed the 1st and 2nd sets of Hashim vs Shon!!
Well i missed the slot from 6.20 to 7.00.
You ddn't missed much in Roslin vs Shon, it is the perfect eg
of how not to play modern badminto nowadays.
I think the game was almost 90 mins long.
modious 07-05-2003, 08:53 PM I noticed Shon Seung Mo and Lee Hyun IL using the new Armortec 700. Were KDM and HTK using the AT700 as well? I didn't catch that match.
Amor what ?
After going thru all the hooha on Titaniums, Isometrics etc etc
I;ve gone back to using my trusty Cab 21.
i've could have sworn hearing Kim calling out to Choong and Chan
"toro, Toro" during the match. Ha was limping and I don't think the Korean pair
played allout.l
wilfredlgf 07-05-2003, 10:34 PM Final Leg (3/3) Played in Kuala Lumpur
===MEN===
Malaysia 3 South Korea 2
Lee Tsuen Seng bt Park Sung-hwan 15-7. 17-15;
Choong Tan Fook-Chan Chong Ming lost to Ha Tae Kwon-Kim Dong-moon 10-15, 11-15;
Roslin Hashim bt Shon Seung-mo 15-11, 12-15, 15-10;
Hong Chieng Hun-Lin Woon Fui lost to Lee Dong-soo-Lee Jae-jin 13-15, 5-15;
Wong Choon Han bt Lee Hyun-Il 15-9, 15-8;
===WOMEN===
Malaysia 0 South Korea 5
Wong Mew Choo lost to Kim Yeung-ran 11 - 8, 6 - 11, 11 - 4;
Chin Ee Hui-Wong Pei Tty lost to Ra Kyeung-min-Lee Kyung-won 11-15, 2-15;
Wong Sze Mei lost to Jun Jae-youn 6 - 11, 0 - 11;
Fong Chew Yen-Norashikin Amin lost to Lee Hyo-jung-Hwang Yu-mi 4 - 15, 8 - 15;
Wong Miew Kheng lost to Ra Kyung-min 3 - 11, 3 - 11.
wilfredlgf 07-05-2003, 10:57 PM Anybody have the results for Leg 2 in Kota Bharu? Strange enough I didn't see it on the papers.
I watched the game yesterday on TV.
1 : 1st Doubles between Chan CM-Choong TF and Kim DM-Ha TK was pretty good although the Malaysians could not really match up to the class of the Koreans.
The encouraging part is to actually see Chan-Choong take the initiative to actually attack instead of being on the receiving end of all the Koreans could give them.
There's still defensive lapses as noticed on the second set when during a rally, both Malaysians were forced to the right side of their courts, opening up a large area for Ha TK to just drive it over. Maybe it's just that they seldom play together.
There had been a question to why Chan-Chew wasn't fielded together against the world no one pair. It could have been a golden opportunity for the Malaysian pair to learn some quality lessons from their world class opponents.
2: Roslin Hashim vs Shon Sheung-mo
Maybe because of watching the 1st doubles game I find this somewhat boring. I had no doubt that Roslin could beat Shon but his lapses of concentration during the final parts of the second set really got on my nerves. As modius had said, this is perfect example of how NOT to play badminton.
3: Malaysian Girls
What a pity really. I'm sure they gave their best to try to play their Korean counterparts but the sad thing is that they have already lost part of the game before it started. When Chan-Choong put up a fight to Kim-Ha, the crowd went 'woo' 'haa' 'haa' 'waa',
Where was that chant when the girls played? I didn't get to see WongMC play Ra KM but she might have had the chance to beat the Korean 3 out of 3 if only the crowd were behind her.
This is perhaps another reason why Malaysian women can't seem to do well enough against international opponents; their own countrymen and women simply don't care. Everybody had their eye fixed on seeing Ha TK whip the shuttle into Chan CM's face but nobody seem to care much when the girls played.
The usual $0.02 from the spectators will likely be like this "... haiya, Korea so strong one, where can they win? Don't need to play also know lar they will lose...".
*Sigh*
4: Wong Mew Choo
She beat Ra Kyeung-min twice and lost once. Does this mean anything? I haven't seen her play against the likes of Wang Chen or Gong Zi Chao but I must commend that she could only get better with more and more quality opponents to match wits and skills against.
The expected $0.02 from the typical ah beng or ah lian "... haiya.. Malaysia so hot... Korea come they feel tired mah... that's why she win lor... if not where got chance... "
Double *sigh*
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5: Korean Girls
Ra Kyeung-min
Ra yeung-min K
Ra yeung-imn K
Ra yeung-n Kim
Ran yeung Kim
yeung Ran Kim
Kim Yeung-ran !
6: Korean Girls #2
Choi Sung-hui aka Shoo of SES. :D
whizkelv 07-05-2003, 11:14 PM Ra Kyung-min and Kim Yeung-ran are 2 different players.
Ra is a double specialists, Kim is the full time singles player.
Wong Mew Choo actually played Kim 3 times in this series (won the 1st two showdown, but lost the 3rd one in KL), instead of Ra.
The RTM commentator got it wrong too... ;)
The 1st doubles was actually the match of the day. IMHO, Chan-Choong is a better combination than Chan-Chew. Chew has the knack of making lots of unforced errors when it matters most, and he's not mentally strong enough to take on top Korean and Indonesian pairs.
The fact that Chan-Chew lost to the scratch pair of Kim DM-Lee DS in the 1st leg really irritates me. Despite having the upperhand (after 'injuring' Lee DS's nose or what-so-ever), the Malaysian duo failed to press on to win. Something wrong with their mental power.
It's quite a pity that Lee Tsuen Seng did not get the opportunity to play either of the top 2 Koreans (faced Korean junior in both occasions). Anyway, this is Misbun's prerogative...
:mad:
Lee Tsuen seng's match is interesting.park is I think 17 and
eligible to play again in next asian Champs.
How do you rate Lee's chance in World champs, and how would you compare the
maturity of Park and Lee Ts's game ?
wilfredlgf 07-05-2003, 11:23 PM Ra Kyung-min and Kim Yeung-ran are 2 different players.
Of course, whizkelv... just some post-tournament entertainment :D
As for the commentator, this reminds me of the Olympic episode of (translation to English) "... and now comes the contingent from Zimbabwe........... or Denmark.... ".
I am still wondering about what makes Korean men double such powerful opponents that make them specialists at the game in comparison to many other countries in the world. Is it their training mentality, social norm or Korean ginseng?
whizkelv 07-05-2003, 11:23 PM Originally posted by wilfredlgf
Anybody have the results for Leg 2 in Kota Bharu? Strange enough I didn't see it on the papers.
Hi,
Results for the 2nd leg in Kota Bahru as followed:
Men: Malaysia 4 South Korea 1
(Wong Choon Hann bt Shon Seung Mo 15-12, 17-16;
Hong Chien Hun-Lin Woon Fui lost to Kim Dong Moon-Lee Jae Jin 12-15, 15-5, 15-4;
Hafiz Hashim bt Lee Hyun Il 15-3, 14-17, 15-12;
Lee Wan Wah-Chew Choon Eng bt Kim Young Hyun-Yim Bang Eun 15-12, 15-9; Roslin Hashim bt Jang Young Soo 15-9, 9-15, 15-2)
Women:South Korea 4 Malaysia 1
(Jun Jae Yun bt Woon Sze Mei 11-5, 11-2;
Ra Kyung Min-Lee Kyung Won bt Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui 15-12, 15-10;
Kim Kyueng Ran lost to Wong Mew Choo 4-11, 11-7, 11-5;
Lee Hyo Jung-Hwang Yu Mi bt Fong Chew Yen-See Phui Leng 15-8, 15-3;
Ra Kyung Min bt Wong Miew Kheng 11-8, 11-9)
whizkelv 07-05-2003, 11:27 PM Originally posted by wilfredlgf
I am still wondering about what makes Korean men double such powerful opponents that make them specialists at the game in comparison to many other countries in the world. Is it their training mentality, social norm or Korean ginseng?
Call it the ginseng power... :D
wilfredlgf 07-05-2003, 11:29 PM Originally posted by Bbn
Lee Tsuen seng's match is interesting.park is I think 17 and
eligible to play again in next asian Champs.
How do you rate Lee's chance in World champs, and how would you compare the
maturity of Park and Lee Ts's game ?
He (Lee) had better do something about his mental discipline judging from the newspaper article. During major tournaments such the World Championships and AE, he'd be up against opponents who may not be better than him, but has superior mental control. There will be matches where he will be stretched to the limits and at the end of the day, whoever that could keep their mind focused the task best, will win.
Reminds me of people like Yang Yang and Hendrawan who have an almost super-ice mentality that is hard to break.
Park Sung-hwan is just 17? Hmm...
whizkelv 07-05-2003, 11:31 PM Originally posted by Bbn
Lee Tsuen seng's match is interesting.park is I think 17 and
eligible to play again in next asian Champs.
How do you rate Lee's chance in World champs, and how would you compare the
maturity of Park and Lee Ts's game ?
Lee TS is definitely the better player at the moment.
His main problem is still the inconsistency in his form.... he could beat the world no 1 today, but lose the world no 100 the next day.
Was quoted in Malaysian dailies that he has doubt in Misbun's training method before the Elite Challenge, which resulted in his poor performance. How true is this statement??:confused:
wilfredlgf 07-05-2003, 11:35 PM Originally posted by whizkelv
Hong Chien Hun-Lin Woon Fui lost to Kim Dong Moon-Lee Jae Jin 12-15, 15-5, 15-4;
Are the Koreans just overwhelmingly powerful or just toying around with the Malaysian reserves?
whizkelv 07-05-2003, 11:52 PM Originally posted by wilfredlgf
Are the Koreans just overwhelmingly powerful or just toying around with the Malaysian reserves?
This appears to be Malaysia's best back-up pair around.
Malaysia MD head coach Yap Kim Hock made a critical decision for not fielding Chan/Chew and Lee/Choong head to head against Ha/Kim and Lee/???. Wasn't it the purpose of this friendly tune-up matches between the Koreans and the Malaysians, to guage the preparation of WC bound players in MS as well as MD?
The Koreans had certainly found out there are works need to be done on MS department but certainly not the Malaysian double players as Lee/Choong and Chan/Chew did not have chance to engage with the world #1.
Lets pray the Malaysians pairs do not meet the Koreans in early round and lose miserably or else coach Yap will be in deep **** and deservely so.
Just got the video of MS between Roslin Hashim and Shon SM. Quite an exciting match to watch and these two players should do OK in WC based on their current form. If you wish to purchase this video(or any badminton related video), contatc me at han_cheong@yahoo.com. Offer good for US and Canada region only.
Thanks
Han
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