View Full Version : anyone have a genuine Yonex CH racket?
the rumor was that Yonex has officially opened up the Chinese market last year (or was it two years ago?) the country code for the Chinese mass market was designed CH.
so far, i have not seen anybody mentioned the CH rackets. nor have we seen any pic of it. whereas we have seen a lot of fake Yonex with CH markings on it.
so i am wondering, is that rumor true? i want to see a Genuine Yonex CH racket to confirm.... if you have one, please post pictures.
Pete LSD 07-11-2003, 08:36 PM I was in Nan Ning, Guangxi Province, last year. There is this Japanese operated high-end department store that retails geniune Yonex racquets with CH designation. The prices is higher than in HK.
YY Fan 07-14-2003, 01:03 AM Dear Kwun,
I have ever seen Yonex CH genuine badminton rackets in ZhongShan and Zhuhai. I had picked some of them out like Cab 23, Cab 20 Muscle Power, Ti 8, MP100 and etc and tried them. They are genuine YY rackets.
As Pete said, the CH racket prices are much higher than that of HK, about 20% - 30%. Most imported goods in China are more expensive than those in HK.
Anyway, I don't find any difference between CH and SP rackets, except the prices.
cooler 07-14-2003, 01:09 AM As Pete said, the CH racket prices are much higher than that of HK, about 20% - 30%. Most imported goods in China are more expensive than those in HK.
how does CH rackets being sold in china be considered import :confused:
Originally posted by cooler
As Pete said, the CH racket prices are much higher than that of HK, about 20% - 30%. Most imported goods in China are more expensive than those in HK.
how does CH rackets being sold in china be considered import :confused:
cooler, CH rackets are same as CD rackets, made in Japan. thought you old timer knows the difference between country code and manufacturing country.... have you been drinking today? ;)
cooler 07-14-2003, 01:25 AM Originally posted by kwun
cooler, CH rackets are same as CD rackets, made in Japan. thought you old timer knows the difference between country code and manufacturing country.... have you been drinking today? ;)
yes i have, it's stampede (10 days) here, drinking is compulsory, even during office hours. :D *hIc* It's officially over 1/2 hr ago but not the alcohol in the 'system'
LazyBuddy 07-14-2003, 11:50 AM Originally posted by YY Fan
As Pete said, the CH racket prices are much higher than that of HK, about 20% - 30%. Most imported goods in China are more expensive than those in HK.
YY,
The 20%-30%, is the difference between:
1. CH in china vs CH in HK, or
2. CH in china, vs HK (or SP) in china, or
3. CH in china, vs HK (or SP) in HK
Note: CH, HK, SP all refering to the code of the racket, :D
Thanks.
RedDog 07-14-2003, 03:41 PM Originally posted by kwun
the rumor was that Yonex has officially opened up the Chinese market last year (or was it two years ago?) the country code for the Chinese mass market was designed CH.
so far, i have not seen anybody mentioned the CH rackets. nor have we seen any pic of it. whereas we have seen a lot of fake Yonex with CH markings on it.
so i am wondering, is that rumor true? i want to see a Genuine Yonex CH racket to confirm.... if you have one, please post pictures.
I believe I saw one last weekend while playing against a MD team from China. One of the guy is holding a MP100 with CH marking on it. After the game, I borrowed it to take a look, since I've never seen it with the marking.
Just from looking at it, there is a print of "CH" in the middle of a gold oval on the end of the shaft between the word Muscle Power 100 and the top of the grib, the serial number is also followed with CH at the end.
He told me he got it from China about a year ago, and it's equal to about $120USD.
It looks and feel as real as the US MP100, so I believee it is Genuine. I will bring my digital camera next week to take a picture. Maybe you can tell me if it's real. :p
YY Fan 07-14-2003, 10:59 PM Dear LazyBuddy,
Yonex CH rackets in China are more expensive than Yonex SP or HK rackets in Hong Kong, by about 20% - 30%.
Thus, those HK badminton fans should buy Yonex rackets locally to boom HK's economy, right ?
silentlight 07-16-2003, 08:29 AM Yeah, I saw one too just 2 days ago. It was an mp77 with a CH printed after the words Muscle Power 77 and at the end of the serial number as well. The girl said she bought it in China, I was just curious since I, myself, own an mp77 and I have never seen one with the extra CH lettering. Why is that suspicious? The thought of it being fake never even entered my mind. Then again it could be just because I'm naive...
tofu_boy 07-16-2003, 09:33 AM I have a mp 99 CH....yes it's real, and yes it's more expensive. I bought it from a yonex distributor here in Shanghai.
The racquet has engraved serial as well as rounded (red striped) brackets. Bought it for around 1400 rmb which roughly equals $170 USD.
RedDog 08-04-2003, 12:02 AM this is the MP100 CH I'm talking about.
cooler 08-04-2003, 12:32 AM .
cooler 08-04-2003, 12:43 AM trying again
cooler 08-04-2003, 12:44 AM trying again
G'day,
I've recently strung a Yonex IsometricTiSP-SR with CH marking on it - it belonged to a oversea student studying here in Australia. Unfortunately I was so tired during restringing I didn't bother to take a good close look at it - arrgh!
trying again... attachment seems to be broken..
Do you know where can i get CH racquets in Shanghai and Beijing?
cooler 08-05-2003, 12:05 AM source: reddog
mp100 ch
cooler 08-05-2003, 12:05 AM source :reddog
mp100 CH
cooler 08-05-2003, 12:06 AM source : reddog
mp100 CH
Winex West Can 08-05-2003, 12:28 AM And we are sure that this is the real deal?
If so, how about pics of the butt cap, the grommets, and frame?
bigredlemon 08-05-2003, 02:39 AM looks fake to me...
i've been to over 20 badminton stores in China this week and the vast majority of them sell fakes with inflated prices. The serial looks silkscreened.
I've seen this one sold for around 700rmb (~90 USD) in most places. The bottom four grommets use muscle power grommets, and there are real muscle power bumps around the sides by shallower. It's head shape even the same. BUT it doesn't have the lasered serial number and it is much more flexible than the genuine yonex.
LazyBuddy 08-05-2003, 07:38 AM Originally posted by ants
Do you know where can i get CH racquets in Shanghai and Beijing?
With my "research" online, and help from friends (recently visited Beijing), seems we can only find CN and CP in several locations. The price is quite expensive for CN. Several stores listed CN as "collective items".
However, none of us are expert, and we could be wrong.
the serial number.... kinda a bit more "white" than usual. however, the serial number fits the curve.
RedDog 08-05-2003, 02:04 PM Originally posted by bigredlemon
looks fake to me...
... The serial looks silkscreened.
I've seen this one sold for around 700rmb (~90 USD) in most places. The bottom four grommets use muscle power grommets, and there are real muscle power bumps around the sides by shallower. It's head shape even the same. BUT it doesn't have the lasered serial number and it is much more flexible than the genuine yonex.
Ok, this has been bothering me all day trying to figure out if this is a genuine Yonex or not. I'm 85% sure this racquet is real from holding and examing it. Both iyang and I took a good look at it. And we have put iyang's 100% genuine US version MP100 next to this CH racquet to compare the difference. It looks exactly the same except the 3 photo parts (it has an extra CH). The serial number is not silkscreened, it is clearly engraved (maybe the picture doesn't show it too well). And I'm working on getting the butt cap, the grommets, and frame pictures for you guys. The problem is I only see this guy once a week, and I really wish I can get to him right now to take some more pictures. ;)
I know the guy snap the string 3 weeks ago, and brought this racquet in to string in San Diego Badminton Supply, so I called up the owner Mike Walker to see if he can tell. He's a well known certified Yonex dealer in S. Califorina. He says he didn't pay much attention on that particular CH racquet, but if any fake racquet comes in, he would know, and they would not string it. Because the fake ones are not as well made, if they damage it during stringing, there's no warranty on it. And they did string that one.
The guy snap the string again just last weekend, and he didn't get a chance to bring the racquet in for another string job yet. But Mike Walker will call me to let met know if that is a real one when it gets in. And I'll keep you guys updated.
looks pretty real to my eyes.
the CH sticker may be specific to the Chinese market. similar to the PBSI logo on many SP rackets.
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
With my "research" online, and help from friends (recently visited Beijing), seems we can only find CN and CP in several locations. The price is quite expensive for CN. Several stores listed CN as "collective items".
However, none of us are expert, and we could be wrong.
LB, the original question was CH rackets, they are very different from CN/CP.
RedDog 08-09-2003, 09:50 PM test
RedDog 08-09-2003, 09:58 PM try again...MP100CH butt cap
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:00 PM Grommets
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:01 PM more grommets
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:02 PM Frame
LazyBuddy 08-09-2003, 10:02 PM Originally posted by kwun
LB, the original question was CH rackets, they are very different from CN/CP.
I know.
What my point is, i checked serveral chinese online stores, seems still only CN/CP are available. Did not see any CH rackets being sold online yet. Maybe still too new?
Sorry for the confusion. ;)
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:03 PM 1 side
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:04 PM the other side
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:05 PM Top, MP100 US
Bottom, MP100 CH
RedDog 08-09-2003, 10:17 PM I'd like to thank my friend for getting these pictures for me. These pictures came from a friend in the local gym. He is from China, and also got the racquet from China. I will introduce him to BF. :)
cooler 08-10-2003, 12:31 AM reddog, that's lotta pics:) u had posted, actually one more pic will do it.
In my opinion, that CH racquet in the photo is... real a yonex mp100 with 99.99% confidence.;)
when i first saw the pic, it make sense to be real and look different from cp/cn version. It has to be and yonex purposely done it that way for a reason.
yonexfanatic 08-10-2003, 01:00 AM looks very real to my eyes. regarding the serial being more white than usual mentioned on the previous page...it seems to me that a lot of the newer rackets that have been coming out of asia lately are "whiter."
A few of my friends (each not knowing each other)..have went back to asia in the past 2 months and haev got a variety of new rackets, mp100, mp99, armortec 700, etc..and i've looked at them all and most of them haev a whiter seral number, like white..but putting my finger over the serial and feeling, it's definitely been envraved in..at least it feels like it
happykk7 08-10-2003, 09:52 AM Hello everyone, this is my first post (thanks RedDog). The CH mp-100 you are seeing here is mine. It's purchased at Li Sheng sports shop (the biggest sports shop in Beijing, in Wang Fu Jing. Anyone here from Beijing should know that place). I believe the store doesn't sell fakes, like the Footlocker here doesn't sell fake Nike shoes. It looks and feels like a genuine Yonex, but, I'm not a professional, and this is my first mp-100, so I really couldn't guarantee. I'm gonna have it restrung this week, so I think Mr. Walker can help us found out. I remember I read somewhere that CH only comes in 2U, and it's designed for Chinese national team (I'm not 100% sure, I could be wrong). The link here is the biggest online store I can find in China http://www.bbeshop.com/ . I think they have CH rackets. Check it out if you understand Chinese.
fhchiang 08-10-2003, 10:16 AM how much you spent for that racquet?
in Ren Min Bi...
by the way... i checked the website out...
looks in china, the racquets are equally expensive....
thought in china maybe can get for 50-70% of the price in US...
happykk7 08-10-2003, 10:22 AM I think it's about 1350 RMB.
fhchiang 08-10-2003, 10:33 AM well...
in Kuala Lumpur,
Mp100 can be bought for only 1000RMB
Mp99 - 1250RMB
Ti-10 - 830RMB
Mp77 - 610RMB
*Note - All Racquets Are Either the HK Or The SP version.
RedDog 08-10-2003, 04:08 PM Originally posted by happykk7
Hello everyone, this is my first post (thanks RedDog). ....
Hey! happyKK7! Good to see you here! Great games we had this morning!
Well, we saw Mike Walker this morning at the gym, and he took a look at the racquet. It looks real to him, but to make sure, he will go back and punch in the serial number to check on that. Let's see what he says.
While talking to Mike this morning, Mike also has a real MP99 CH without the CH oval on it. Now I wonder, if both of them are real (wich I believe so), then how come they don't all have the the CH oval...maybe I'll get some picture of Mike's MP99 CH too. :D
Why don't we interview some Chinese players to verify the CH racket.?? Anyone who is close to chinese players in the forum?
If you're talking about Chinese national players, they use CN or CP, not CH.
the racket is real.
there is nothing that indicates that it is not real.
- legitimate and reliable retailer.
- priced correctly for CH racket.
- looks authentic from side by side comparison.
- serial number matches the serial number curve.
the serial number may be more white, but we should allow for manufacturing variances.
so, it is not a fake and we have a genuine Yonex CH country code racket as was originally requested in the thread... :)
and thanks all who provided the racket and pictures.... :)
LazyBuddy 08-11-2003, 06:43 AM Originally posted by happykk7
I remember I read somewhere that CH only comes in 2U, and it's designed for Chinese national team (I'm not 100% sure, I could be wrong). The link here is the biggest online store I can find in China http://www.bbeshop.com/ . I think they have CH rackets. Check it out if you understand Chinese.
Good to know that we confirmed the racket.
Yeah, in "bbeshop" site, they do have MP100 (C) being listed for RMB1480. However, I have no idea of whether is CH, CP or CN. Try to determine it by the pic, but the shaft only has Muscle Power 100, but no CH as ur pic. However, it could just be an old pic they used.
For the usage of chinese national team, I think the code is CN.
Will try to give you guys feedback once i find those CP/CN rackets in China. I'm going there next month.
palydu 08-22-2003, 01:17 AM I just came back from vacation in China and bought a Yonex Armortec 500 CH. I'm almost 100% sure that it's genuine...but would like to have further assurance that I didn't waste a ton of dough.
palydu 08-22-2003, 01:18 AM ...
palydu 08-22-2003, 01:20 AM not done yet...
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palydu 08-22-2003, 01:26 AM uno mas
palydu 08-22-2003, 01:27 AM and we're done!
Where is the serial and batch number? It looks real to me.. Anyway i think you need to improve on your picture taking.
palydu 08-22-2003, 02:54 AM Ants, I believe I included a picture of the serial/batch number...
4419084 180634CH
cooler 08-22-2003, 10:06 AM it's... 100% real
LazyBuddy 08-22-2003, 11:45 AM Palydu,
Wondering on the shaft, did they print "Armortec 500" or "Armortec 500 CH"???
i don't see anything wrong with it. so don't worry and have fun with it.
palydu 08-23-2003, 05:45 PM It's printed Armortec 500 CH on the shaft (even though the CH is all the way near the cone). Thanks for taking away some of my doubts people!
happykk7 09-11-2003, 10:47 PM I am currently in Beijing. Every Yonex authorized dealer is now selling CH Yonex products. Not only the rackets, also the shoes, strings, grips. They all have the oval Yonex CH logo. The shoes even have serial number. The newest racket is Armortec 700 in 3U and 4U. Around RMB 1200-1400.
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