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Fourcas
07-27-2003, 06:39 AM
If any of you guys plan to go see S'pore Open, please let us know in advance. Maybe we could meet and well, discuss badminton.

kwun
07-27-2003, 11:47 AM
sigh. wish i can be there..

post pictures!

Cheung
07-28-2003, 12:32 AM
http://www.yonexsunrisesingopen.org.sg/tournament/volunteers.html

Does that mean free tickets:D?

swijaya0101
08-06-2003, 05:13 AM
fourcas,

i'll be going ... from day 1 - final ...

modious
08-06-2003, 05:16 AM
oh.....

I can't go because I'm going for NS on Aug 20th. :(

Kaffie
08-06-2003, 10:49 AM
Poor Modious, fear not!
I'll go on your behalf. :D

Loh
08-06-2003, 10:42 PM
A number of my badminton "kakis " (regular playing mates in Malay) have booked adult season tickets at 20% discount (S$32 instead of S$40) from the SBA and we are eagerly looking forward to having a whale of a time at the SIS. No doubt the world's best badminton players will be on display and being there to soak in the electrifying atmosphere will definitely be better than watching the proceedings on TV.

I think the Singapore contingent will be boosted with the formation of the Badminton Fan Club (probably dressed in red T-shirts) and this year could be a noisy one from the supporters. Wonder what sort of noise makers they will give us to generate more excitement.

I'm lucky in a way as my office at Raffles Place is not too far from the SIS and I probably will steal some time to witness even the earlier rounds.

Wonder whether some of our younger and more able Singapore BF fans can organize a group meeting at the SIS with photo to be taken and perhaps posted here for others to see.

See you at the Singapore Open!

Hamz
08-07-2003, 11:34 AM
I'll be there from 22nd till 24th Aug.

cooler
08-07-2003, 07:38 PM
wear those BC singapore t-shirts!!

Kaffie
08-08-2003, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by cooler
wear those BC singapore t-shirts!!

There a BC Singapore t-shirts? :eek:

modious
08-08-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Kaffie
There a BC Singapore t-shirts? :eek:

Yes, our group has BC Singapore shirts. We designed them ourselves....

Kaffie
08-08-2003, 04:03 AM
Mod, show me on sunday. :p

cooler
08-08-2003, 11:01 AM
mod, you should post a thread in BF regarding the selling of BC singapore t shirts, if you guys still have some left

JR
08-09-2003, 10:45 AM
Hi Everyone!!

If you want we can meet up in Singapore and talk some badminton.

Try to arrange one time and place and IŽll see what I can do when I get to Singapore!!

Kind Regards

Jonas

Kaffie
08-09-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by JR
Hi Everyone!!

If you want we can meet up in Singapore and talk some badminton.

Try to arrange one time and place and IŽll see what I can do when I get to Singapore!!

Kind Regards

Jonas


When will you be arriving Jonas?

Loh
08-10-2003, 09:31 PM
Hi JR

Congratulations Jonas and to your partner, Lars Passke, for becoming the current World Men's Doubles Champion in Birmingham. I've seen both of you in action over TV and must say that you both are very good indeed, despite your relatively short partnership.

I like your speed and power and your partnership with Lars could only get better as time goes by. Hope you and Lars can repeat your winning performance in Singapore.

Hope we can arrange to meet, together with the other BF'ers, in Singapore. Will keep in touch soon.

Regards
Loh

cooler
08-10-2003, 11:50 PM
don't forget to post some pics here and make us drool:)

Zax
08-12-2003, 03:28 PM
Swijaya, Kaffie and others who are going... don't forget us who are not so fortunate to make it to Singapore this year..! We miss all the action so post some pictures for us ;)

Apart from that, enjoy the sun, the players and the shuttles... !

carol
08-15-2003, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Loh
A number of my badminton "kakis " (regular playing mates in Malay) have booked adult season tickets at 20% discount (S$32 instead of S$40) from the SBA and we are eagerly looking forward to having a whale of a time at the SIS. No doubt the world's best badminton players will be on display and being there to soak in the electrifying atmosphere will definitely be better than watching the proceedings on TV.

I think the Singapore contingent will be boosted with the formation of the Badminton Fan Club (probably dressed in red T-shirts) and this year could be a noisy one from the supporters. Wonder what sort of noise makers they will give us to generate more excitement.

I'm lucky in a way as my office at Raffles Place is not too far from the SIS and I probably will steal some time to witness even the earlier rounds.

Wonder whether some of our younger and more able Singapore BF fans can organize a group meeting at the SIS with photo to be taken and perhaps posted here for others to see.

See you at the Singapore Open!



Hi,

This's my first time posting on this forum...Great to know there're so many badminton fans from overseas and Singapore...

Just would like to find out how many of you here bought the season tickets for this coming S'pore Open? Actually i'm the one who is in charge for the Singapore Badminton Fan Club...hope fans from BF if you're having season tickets, we welcome you to join us...probably we'll be holding our club banner... Loh has given a good suggestion, it'll be great if BF fans can meet together before watching the event...anyone interested???

unregistered
08-15-2003, 05:34 AM
how come i didnt know theer was a fan club!!! humph! well.. i got my prelims coming.. not sure if i wnana go.. haish.. if JR goes i might consider eheheh.........

carol
08-15-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by unregistered
how come i didnt know theer was a fan club!!! humph! well.. i got my prelims coming.. not sure if i wnana go.. haish.. if JR goes i might consider eheheh.........

haha...this fan club is very very new just formed up this yr....interested fans you can visit SBA's website for detail...cheers !!!

Loh
08-15-2003, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by unregistered
how come i didnt know theer was a fan club!!! humph! well.. i got my prelims coming.. not sure if i wnana go.. haish.. if JR goes i might consider eheheh.........

You mustn't miss the Semi Finals (23rd Sat) at least. Relax a bit and watch the world's best badminton players in action!

Carol's S'pore Fan Club is meant to support/cheer the S'pore players. Therefore it maybe in conflict with supporters from overseas. We have had responses from Fourcas and Hamz to meet with us, Kaffie & company, on Sat 23 morning, maybe to have a badminton game &lunch before we adjourn to the SIS (Indoor Stadium) in the evening to watch the SF. Hopefully JR will be playing and we can meet him there for our pics! Fourcas is going to buy a new digital camera from S'pore to capture all the action! Right Fourcas?

Still trying hard to put things together and Kaffie has been very helpful and I hope we can meet and have a good time. Any BF members are welcome to join us, from overseas, esp. Malaysia and S'pore.

See you all next week at the Spore Open. Cheers!!!

Fourcas
08-18-2003, 03:55 AM
Just to confirm. I am getting a digital camera to shoot some pictures and and film some bits. hopefully i can get a fully charged batteri to go with the camera....

Looking forward to meeting you all.

carol
08-18-2003, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Fourcas
Just to confirm. I am getting a digital camera to shoot some pictures and and film some bits. hopefully i can get a fully charged batteri to go with the camera....

Looking forward to meeting you all.

Hi Fourcas,

I got to know from Sistic's website that photography, audio and videao recording are not allowed for this Singapore Open...but think you can still bring it along for photo taking outside the stadium...

Pebulutangkis
08-19-2003, 08:46 AM
i'm going to QF, SF & finals. If there is indo player on court u can find me with a big indonesia flag!

Cheung
08-19-2003, 10:05 AM
Make sure you sit opposite the camera so we can see you on TV on finals day.

Don;t worry if there are no Indonesian finalists - wave the flag anyway:D

unregistered
08-19-2003, 11:55 PM
so u guys meeting?? hey carol.. do u know whens the trials if theres one for sba?

Pebulutangkis
08-20-2003, 08:22 AM
there will be flandy/eng hian in the final anyway........ btw they both signed my flag last yr.... maybe i'll wear the indo team shirt..... commentator might mistake me for one of the youth players who got knocked out :D

carol
08-20-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by unregistered
so u guys meeting?? hey carol.. do u know whens the trials if theres one for sba?

Hi,

Haven't hear anything for this year yet....if you want to know can email SBA to check.

Raphy
08-20-2003, 09:45 PM
Hi guys...
If you can't take photos inside the hall.. I can !
So, if you want, you can always contact me through the press centre (ask for the only French guy there) and I'll come up to make a team photo of the new fan club that I'll send you then !
How's that ?
All the best
Raphael
www.badmintonphoto.com

Loh
08-20-2003, 10:38 PM
Hi Raphael

I think on Sat, 23 Aug, when the Semi-Finals are played, we will go to the SIS press centre and ask for a French gentleman who answers to the name of Monsieur Raphael, to take this historic pic for us. Hopefully JR is available to join us.

That is if the service is provided FOC! Right guys? Fourcas, Hamz, Kaffie, we better thank Raphael in advance before he changes his mind.

Incidentally, Raphael, we wish to extend an invitation to you to join us in a badminton game on that Sat morning from 9.30 - 11.30 am if you can make it. We know the timing is a bit tight as the SF will be played from 2 pm. onwards.

Btw, last evening was the first time that I had to endure such a lengthy proceeding for a badminton event which lasted well past 2.30 am the next morning from 9 am the previous morning! Too many entries and rubber games had made it rather time-consuming for the organisers, the players and the spectators alike. We will need to catch up on our sleep when the Finals are over by 24 Aug.

See you soon Raphael!

legal strike
08-20-2003, 11:06 PM
Btw, last evening was the first time that I had to endure such a lengthy proceeding for a badminton event which lasted well past 2.30 am the next morning from 9 am the previous morning! Too many entries and rubber games had made it rather time-consuming for the organisers, the players and the spectators alike. We will need to catch up on our sleep when the Finals are over by 24 Aug.


i think the player should throw their 2nd game if they lose the 1st, haha just the what the Chinsese are doing then we will not have rubber set.

unregistered
08-21-2003, 04:04 AM
ya ill be there on the SFs !!!! hehe anyone meeting anyone?

Loh
08-22-2003, 01:14 AM
Calling all Spore BF fans!!!

Kaffie (S'pore), Hamz (M'sia), Fourcas (Denmark) and me will be meeting on Sat, 23 Aug, on Semi-Finals day to get Raphael to take pics of us. (Raphy, we assumed you have agreed.) We will like all of you to join us for this historic event. Could one of you volunteer to create a big banner or a few single cardboards with the "BF.Com" lettering prominently written or printed on it/them.

Perhaps for a start the following names should at least make up our Singapore contingent. Of course, our M'sian friends are welcome to join us if you are at the Indoor Stadium for the SF.

* legal strike (Strike while the iron is hot!),
* unregistered (good that you can put down your books and relax just for a few hours!),
*Carol (I didn't see nor hear the S'pore Fan Club making a strong pitch for Ronald Susilo, so you are needed for this pic as perhaps the sole lady representative of the BF),
* Pebulutangkis (Sorry lah, Taufik and Sony not available, but Mahardi Wiempie got in at Xia's expense. Hidup Indonesia!),
* Swijaya (longing to get your response!)
* Modious (good try, but almost impossible to get you out of NS. Hope you enjoy "Army Craze")

You can contact me on my handphone 91790791 on the day itself.

See you!!!

unregistered
08-22-2003, 03:43 AM
ill be there ard 2.30 or 3 like that......... where u guys meeting? at the meeting place main entrance? or ticket booth.

carol
08-22-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Loh
Calling all Spore BF fans!!!

Kaffie (S'pore), Hamz (M'sia), Fourcas (Denmark) and me will be meeting on Sat, 23 Aug, on Semi-Finals day to get Raphael to take pics of us. (Raphy, we assumed you have agreed.) We will like all of you to join us for this historic event. Could one of you volunteer to create a big banner or a few single cardboards with the "BF.Com" lettering prominently written or printed on it/them.

Perhaps for a start the following names should at least make up our Singapore contingent. Of course, our M'sian friends are welcome to join us if you are at the Indoor Stadium for the SF.

* legal strike (Strike while the iron is hot!),
* unregistered (good that you can put down your books and relax just for a few hours!),
*Carol (I didn't see nor hear the S'pore Fan Club making a strong pitch for Ronald Susilo, so you are needed for this pic as perhaps the sole lady representative of the BF),
* Pebulutangkis (Sorry lah, Taufik and Sony not available, but Mahardi Wiempie got in at Xia's expense. Hidup Indonesia!),
* Swijaya (longing to get your response!)
* Modious (good try, but almost impossible to get you out of NS. Hope you enjoy "Army Craze")

You can contact me on my handphone 91790791 on the day itself.

See you!!!


haha....we're down there everyday just that we're too scattered as our members arrived in different time...also i don't dare to put up my fan club banner and boards think is too big probably will block others view...

kwun
08-23-2003, 02:47 AM
looking forward to the pics.... hint. hint... ;)

Loh
08-24-2003, 07:54 AM
At long last, the S'pore Open is over after six long days and a record 18 continuous hours for the second day, Round 1 and 2, starting from 9 am on Wednesday till past 3 am the next day! The IBF must now revise the relevant rules to ensure this does not happen again as this is rather unfair to the organisers, the spectators and the players in particular! An extra day would have solved the problem.

There were some upsets along the way but in general the champions in three events were more or less largely predicted. The exceptions were for the MD when the recent WC champs, Jonas Rasmussen & Lars Paaske, lost out tamely in straight games to their Danish compatriots, Jens Eriksen & Martin Lundgaard Hansen, who were seeded number one for this Open. I was sitting close to the court and was shouting "JR, JR" to try to lift the spirits of our fellow BF member but to no avail. Maybe the JE & MLH team was too experienced to be outfoxed by the younger pair, having trained with them all too often.

Also the WD found a new champion pair in number 5 seed, Yang Wei & Zhang Jiewen who beat 2nd seed, Gao Ling & Huang Sui in 3 hard-fought games. They deserved to win as they also eliminated no. 1 seed, Wei Yili & Zhao Tingting in the Semi Finals. Chen Hong, Zhang Ning, and the Korean XD pair of Kim Dong Moon & Ra Kyung Min were eventual winners although Chen Hong (#1) was stretched to the rubber by countryman, unseeded Chen Yu, who played splendidly throughout this tournament.

The BF.com comrades had their own "meet" on Semi Finals morning at my club. The young pair of Fourcas (Denmark) and Kaffie (S'pore), whose combined age is around 55, took on the veterans of Hamz (M'sia) and Loh (S'pore), total age slightly below 100, and almost 'killed' the oldies who did not possess the "crafty tricks" that so many posters had alluded to. We managed to pull back one game and forced our young compatriots to go all out in the rubber in a rather tight finish before we finally succumbed! Hopefully we will have a revenge game at another Open elsewhere sometime.

In the evening at about 6.30, after JR won his MD match against the M'sian pair of Choong & Lee, we took a pic together. "Unregistered" went back a little earlier at 5 pm and missed the occasion!

Fourcas took all the necessary pictures and we are all looking forward to seeing them in the Forum soon.

kwun
08-24-2003, 01:50 PM
Loh, again thanks for the excellent report!

glad to see that you guys have tons of fun. next time i go watch the early round of a big tourney, i will make sure i bring a nice inflatable mattress. :)

on the other hand, sad to realize that all of us are always so far away from each other and the chances that we will all get together in one place to cheer together and scream our hearts off for our favorite teams and players will be very slim. :(

Raphy
08-24-2003, 04:56 PM
Hi everyone...
I tryed to look for your banners and T shirts, but I was also very busy taking photos on court and writing articles... Sorry I miss the opportunity to chat with you all and take some photos. Hopefully next time.
I talked to Jonas who said he was glad he could have meet up with some of you and thank you for your support.
Now heading for Indonesia.
Bye to all and chat soon.

PS : the best if you want to get in touch with me is to write me directly at raphael.sachetat@badmintonphoto.com
this way I'll get my mail every day, as I don't check the Forum so often.

PS : here is a photo of Jonas and Lars after their semi final win here in Singapore tp make myself forgiven ;-)

Bbn
08-24-2003, 08:12 PM
So Loh was the lone voice shouting JR, JR in the doubles game.

Do you know that your shouts were recorded on Hi Fi Tv?

Loh
08-24-2003, 10:26 PM
Hi Bbn

I was actually ALONE, ie, not with the other BF friends, as the good seats were quickly snapped up very early as I reached the Stadium slightly before 12 noon.
Kaffie, who helped in this Open as a volunteer seeing to the training needs of the players before the Open proper, was assured of a place in the Officials' perimeter.

As I was sitting only about 30 feet from the court, I did shout at the top of my voice on several occasions but I will be most surprised that my voice can be recorded that distinctly. You must be pulling my legs!

Hi Kwun

The SIS is actually quite a comfortable place to snooze. I did take a few winks as I was there every day, sometimes twice a day during the Qualifying and Preliminary Rounds when the morning sessions start at 9 and will not end until late evening and even past the next morning in one case. I was prepared for the airconditioning and always brought along a wind breaker to keep warm and a bottle of mineral water which they allowed in the seating area, but not finger or fast food.

The Singapore "Sports Hub"

But the SIS will be eclipsed in around 2009 by the Sports Hub which will replace the National Stadium in Kallang, where the SIS is also located. The Sports Hub will include "a new world-class stadium (mainly for soccer matches, national day celebrations, concerts, etc) with a seating capacity of between 45,0000 and 55,000 and a 6,000-seat indoor arena complete with retail outlets, leisure facilities and a sports business cluster". There will also be a train service (MRT Circle Line) to facilitate transportation, which is currently not available. As you may be aware, the Singapore Government is keen on making Singapore a world-class sporting nation, able to host regional and international sports events like the Commonwealth Games, the Southeast Asian Games, etc.

Bbn
08-24-2003, 10:35 PM
No Loh I am serious, check with those who watched TV.

The voice shouting JR is neither gruff, nor high pitched, like someone in

20s or 30s.

unregistered
08-25-2003, 03:25 AM
npt sure if i saw ralph on that day.. was he wearing a black shirt with some whitewords behind during the Semis?

swijaya0101
08-25-2003, 03:39 AM
loh, i guess he is the one ...

i saw a tall guy with black t-shirt and badmintonphoto.com print at the back of his t-shirt waiting for taxi after the semi ... while i was about to call his name, he boarded the taxi :p :p :p

As you may be aware, the Singapore Government is keen on making Singapore a world-class sporting nation

agreed ... but they dont accept your feedback well (they're based on books)... i have made few complained regarding the lighting at jurong east sports hall ... but they insist that we dont deserve the lighting to be on.

legal strike
08-25-2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Loh
Calling all Spore BF fans!!!

Kaffie (S'pore), Hamz (M'sia), Fourcas (Denmark) and me will be meeting on Sat, 23 Aug, on Semi-Finals day to get Raphael to take pics of us. (Raphy, we assumed you have agreed.) We will like all of you to join us for this historic event. Could one of you volunteer to create a big banner or a few single cardboards with the "BF.Com" lettering prominently written or printed on it/them.

Perhaps for a start the following names should at least make up our Singapore contingent. Of course, our M'sian friends are welcome to join us if you are at the Indoor Stadium for the SF.

* legal strike (Strike while the iron is hot!),
* unregistered (good that you can put down your books and relax just for a few hours!),
*Carol (I didn't see nor hear the S'pore Fan Club making a strong pitch for Ronald Susilo, so you are needed for this pic as perhaps the sole lady representative of the BF),
* Pebulutangkis (Sorry lah, Taufik and Sony not available, but Mahardi Wiempie got in at Xia's expense. Hidup Indonesia!),
* Swijaya (longing to get your response!)
* Modious (good try, but almost impossible to get you out of NS. Hope you enjoy "Army Craze")

You can contact me on my handphone 91790791 on the day itself.

See you!!!

oops! miss your invitation Loh to join u guys, but i was there at the sf (that's the only day that i attended with my daughter btw come to think of it, that's the only live badminton match that i have ever attended :( ). but it was really great fun especially just a few meter away from those lovely chinese players :)

Loh
08-25-2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by swijaya0101

As you may be aware, the Singapore Government is keen on making Singapore a world-class sporting nation

agreed ... but they dont accept your feedback well (they're based on books)... i have made few complained regarding the lighting at jurong east sports hall ... but they insist that we dont deserve the lighting to be on. [/B]

I don't quite get your complaint about the lighting part. Is it that they don't allow the lights to be switched on? If you pay for the rental of the courts, they have to switch on the lights. Maybe the people managing the hall are difficult people. If that is the case you should put your case to the Sports Council.

I think when I talked about the S'pore Govt's plans, we must look at the big picture. We are talking about different levels. Your case is one dealing with the "grassroots" level where the people concerned are the ones directly concerned with the nitty gritty of things and they may not understand nor empathize with the policy makers at the S'pore Sports Council. But the feedback to the right channels will of course improve things further and make participation in sports that much more enjoyable.

Hi Legal strike

Sorry to have missed you. I think you and your family must have enjoyed the SF outing, albeit it was your first visit to a tournament full of world class players. Hopefully we'll meet next year.

legal strike
08-25-2003, 04:29 AM
hope i'm around to witness the first batch of players from the S'pore Sports School competing in the Sunrise Yonex Singapore Open :)

swijaya0101
08-25-2003, 04:53 AM
I think when I talked about the S'pore Govt's plans, we must look at the big picture. We are talking about different levels. Your case is one dealing with the "grassroots" level where the people concerned are the ones directly concerned with the nitty gritty of things and they may not understand nor empathize with the policy makers at the S'pore Sports Council. But the feedback to the right channels will of course improve things further and make participation in sports that much more enjoyable.

Hi Loh,

my complain is actually answered by the person in charge Manager (Stadia-West)
for Chief Executive Officer Singapore Sports Council (surely he represents the voice of SSC).

If you pay for the rental of the courts, they have to switch on the lights.

that's the point Loh ... they used to turn on these lights ... starting this year they turn it off

to be a world class sporting nation ???

no doubt singapore has a good sport facilities, but i think SSC must boost up the local to excel ... rather importing players from other countries.

btw, loh ... thanks for listening to my complain kekeke ... but i think i am out of topic :mad:

Cheung
08-25-2003, 05:08 AM
I shall listen for Loh's voice again. My baby was having a snooze and I had to keep the volume down to avoid disturbing her. See what I miss because of my daughter.
:rolleyes:

Off topic, heard that HK might try to build a huge sports complex as well. Seems that policy makers are heading in the same direction to regenerate interest in their respective regions.

Bbn
08-25-2003, 08:22 AM
It may be all economics to create sports related industries domestically

or boost tourism.KLBA is having a club tour next month involving 50 teams. Not

many restrictions.


Think of no. of shuttles that can be sold, or racquets or shoes.

Loh
08-25-2003, 09:05 AM
Hi Cheung

You mean to say you got live telecast of the S'pore Open Finals? I thought this will come later. You will never get to hear my voice unless you taped the proceedings of the MD Match and play it back. I'm still suffering from coarse voice though.

Your baby daughter (how many months young is she?) will feel quite at home in our Indoor Stadium since the airconditioning is perfect for snoozing! And since the father is a badminton fanatic, it may be a good idea to slowly immerse her to the excitement of world-class badminton and get used to the noise. Who knows, with such a dedicated father, she may well grow to be like another Wang Chen or better still, Zhang Ning!

Singapore's Badminton Master Plan

Recently, our new SBA President, Minister Lim Swee Say, has unveiled a Master Plan to bring Singapore Badminton to a higher level all round, with greater participation from the grassroots level (badminton is already one of the top ten sports here) and
to aim for the Thomas Cup Final Round by 2012. The Sports School, with badminton as one of the few selected sports will start early next year and hopefully this will provide the base from where our future stars will emerge. The intakes are between the ages of 12 to 13, therefore the target seems to be quite in line when these young people will become mature adults in their early twenties.

This is partly an answer to Swijaya's concern that our national players are mainly imported and therefore do not fully represent the country. Yes, indeed plans are now afloat to reduce the percentage to about 50%, ie, at half are locals by the time we compete for the TC. The culture and mindset of the locals must change somewhat in order for the country to achieve greater honours in the international sports arena. If the overwheming number of applications to the new Sports School is anything to go by, S'porean parents are now realising that there are options available to their children who are talented in sports. So parents as well as their children are now accepting the fact that there is a future in sports!

It will take time. Imported players can still play a very useful role now. And for those who become S'pore Citizens like Ronald Susilo, Li Li, Xiao Luxi and others, there will be a role for them in sports! It is a win-win situation. But we must all be a bit more patient to see the results and reap the rewards!

I think the Master Plan is available in the SBA website for those who are interested.

swijaya0101
08-25-2003, 11:35 AM
hi Loh,

IMHO:

one of the most difficult task in Singapore is a very high living standard and there is no doll for unemployment ...

i believe most of the first team national players will only earn around S$1250 - 1800

surely most singaporean will put most of their effort to their study, unless they are coming from rich family.

just imagine what can those players do after their contract terminated by SBA?

while players in indo, korea, china are training full-time, singaporean are training half-day, which make them very difficult to improve.

seriouslly, i hope one day they can do much better ... who knows TC/UC would be held here in Singapore :D :D :D

Loh
08-25-2003, 09:03 PM
Swijaya

Frankly, I don't know the details of their employment contract. Granted that you are right, such amounts as mentioned are basic living allowances, I suppose. Those who perform well at international competitions like the last Commonwealth Games at Manchester and the forthcoming Southeast Asian Games in Vietnam, will be handsomely rewarded. They can also win prize-monies from IBF sanctioned events like the Thai Open, etc. If the pay-packet has been so good, players may take it too easy and may not work hard enough to bring glory to the country! You can see the great disparity in standards between our players and those of the top nation countries and how Ronald was confidently disposed of by Chen Hong in the QF!

Ronald Susilo and Li Li (Commonwealth gold in LS!), in particular, have benefitted from such a scheme and I think they earn more than the average Singaporean. Ronald's girl friend, Lee Jiawei, our Table Tennis star has earned around S$750,000 already, almost a millionaire at such a young age! Not every player is treated alike. The better and more hard working ones will be rewarded better and may be able to obtain sponsors and commercial endorsements as well. Remember the SBA has to pay for their trips overseas and other expenses. I remember too that those players who have done well for S'pore have also been insured and will get a lump sum on their retirement as gratuity.

Living costs and standards in the other first world countries like Denmark and UK are higher. I am not sure how our reward schemes to professional badminton players compare with those in these countries. Until we have access to these information, it will be difficult to say whether S'pore is doing the right or wrong thing.

Imagine if you are really good at sports and a world beater, you can be a millionaire
in a very short period of time as Lee Jiawei, now a citizen formerly imported from China when she was a teenager, is now proving to be! That perhaps is also one reason why our parents are willing to allow their kids to join the Sports School, instead of the normal academic schools, which recently met with considerably success on enrolment.

So, times are changing and the S'porean mindset is set to change as well, Swijaya!

legal strike
08-26-2003, 12:56 AM
Imagine if you are really good at sports and a world beater, you can be a millionaire
in a very short period of time as Lee Jiawei, now a citizen formerly imported from China when she was a teenager, is now proving to be! That perhaps is also one reason why our parents are willing to allow their kids to join the Sports School, instead of the normal academic schools, which recently met with considerably success on enrolment.

So, times are changing and the S'porean mindset is set to change as well, Swijaya! [/B][/QUOTE]

and my daughter just missed the cut :(

Loh
08-26-2003, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by legal strike


So, times are changing and the S'porean mindset is set to change as well, Swijaya! [/B]

and my daughter just missed the cut :( [/B][/QUOTE]

Hi Legal strike

I'm sorry to learn that your daughter can't make it to the Sports School. What could be the reasons?

Is it because the applications far outnumbered the places (for badminton I assume) available? Or is because they required a higher skill level? Is your daughter tested? How is she tested? By just playing with another girl or also on many other aspects. What are these?

Incidentally, why did your daughter apply for the Sports School? What made you support her application? Or is it your decision, not hers, that she should go for the Sports School? Is she strong in badminton? Has she represented her school?

I hope you don't mind giving me your frank answers so that we are made aware of the situation and the seemingly 'high' demands of the SS.

Thanks

legal strike
08-26-2003, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Loh
and my daughter just missed the cut :(

Hi Legal strike

I'm sorry to learn that your daughter can't make it to the Sports School. What could be the reasons?

Is it because the applications far outnumbered the places (for badminton I assume) available? Or is because they required a higher skill level? Is your daughter tested? How is she tested? By just playing with another girl or also on many other aspects. What are these?

Incidentally, why did your daughter apply for the Sports School? What made you support her application? Or is it your decision, not hers, that she should go for the Sports School? Is she strong in badminton? Has she represented her school?

I hope you don't mind giving me your frank answers so that we are made aware of the situation and the seemingly 'high' demands of the SS.

Thanks [/B][/QUOTE]
wow it's going to be a long story, so i am going to tackle your enquiry one at a time.
u got to bear with me that i do not speak good english.

firstly yes my daughter represented her school in badminton. i would say that she is the best in her school for she was the only girl that was given the form to submit in order to attend the presentation at the s'pore expo.

is she that good? will i dunno how to judge her.

she was very impressed with the presentation, and was really hoping to be selected. so it was not daddy's idea :), but daddy gave the green light (but deep in my heart i know that she does not stand a chance)

before the presentation, some already were chosen from the recent pilot pen open. and the rest was open for selection.
there were 60 (girls) and 100+ boys hopeful, but only about 4 vacancy for boys and about 6 for girls, but later i found out that the number was increased to 8 girls.

venue for selection was done in SAFRA Toa Payoh, i think there are 3 courts. 4 girls to a court, and each court there's a person giving point. girls were told to perform certain stroke at each court.

what i'm going to say may be like sour grape to some, but that's my opinion.

many of this girls cannot play. and they were told to lop or serve high in order to let the other girl smash or drop.....so u get my point ? sigh......