View Full Version : WHAT IS A SLICE SERVE?????
Kelvin
03-31-2001, 04:02 AM
A slice is essentially redirecting your racquet head on impact of the shuttle, this causing the shuttle to take a spinning motion, and possibly putting a strange angle on your shots... this is supposed to make it difficult for you opponent to return your shot, or confuse them as they're distracted by the shuttles awkward motion... I can't spell..
I hope this explanation helps you. :)
Blitz
03-31-2001, 06:51 AM
You hit back the shuttle as though you're slicing the shuttle but of course, minimal exposure to the racket head is necessary.
If the shuttle is hit to your right, what happen is when you hit back with slicing, the ball will go to your left which is the right of the enemy and the shuttle will tend to curve sideways or inwards.
But careful not to hit it too high up cos before the part that it curves, the opponent can actually smash back if he's in the exact position.
There's a guy in my club who's doing strange forehandsliceserves in doubles.It seems to be a long serve, but he the bird is flying short to the side line.He's serving them from the right-side.He hit the bird not fully/clear with a correct rackethead-direction (as you should do it at clears,smashes) but with slice (head direction is sidly to the bird).
I don't know,if this is a typical sclice serve and I'm wondering if it is a legal serve?Does anybody know if it is a fault?
marshall
04-01-2001, 04:57 PM
If the shuttle is struck below the waist, the racquet head is clearly below the server's hand holding the racquet, and the cork is struck before the feathers are hit, the serve is legal. I have a friend who does something to make the shuttle flutter a little as it crosses the net. This looks like the serve is going to be too weak and fall short. I'm sure he's slicing across the base of the shuttle to make this happen.
backhand serves are easier to spot, as the shuttle is usually held stationary when struct. forehand serves on the other hand, are more difficult as the shuttle is dropped and then the shuttle striked.
when dropped, the shuttle is vertical with the cork at the bottom. any sideways stroke to the shuttle will surely hit the cork and feathers at the same time, is that still legal?
that has been puzzling me for a while, as it'd be difficult to not hit an illegal forehand short serve.
viver
04-01-2001, 05:34 PM
Legal or not when serving is up to service judge decision. The law is clear on the serve: you have to hit the cork first and ...
But what I learned from umpiring classes is the reason for this part, introduced back in the early 80's was to counter the spinning serve. As long as the bird does not 'spins' erratically there is a high possibility the judge will not call in a fault even is the server did not hit the cork first. But other rules will apply, like below the waist, wrist level and stuff.
nvm, u ppl r confusing me even more.
I noticed that Poul-Erik Hoyers short forehand serves usually behaved like this. If it's a slight slice that causes it in his case, it is very well disguised... The hit looks perfectly clean.
FROM NOT UNDERSTANDING, TO DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HECK R U GUYS TALKING ABT.
Brett
04-02-2001, 11:07 AM
May, when you are confused about something, you should try to give more information about what you don't understand. Thus, rather than "I don't get it," you might say "what makes the shuttle go sideways?" or "what are the advantages of using slice in badminton?"
Okay, I know that my thoughts aren't exactly constructive.
Brett
04-03-2001, 11:24 AM
May, you may have misundertood me - I'm not saying anything negative about your questions. Probably everyone on this forum at sometime in the last several months has asked a question that other people might have thought were basic or obvious. I've found that the dumbest questions are not the ones that a person asks, but the ones they should have asked but never bothered.
I was merely suggesting that you provide more clarity and detail in some of your questions, so it will be easier for other people to understand why you are confused and provide you with the appropriate response. To draw an analogy, if you went to the doctor's office and told your physician "I don't feel well," that won't be as helpful to your doctor than if you stated "I have a sharp pain on the left sided of my abdomen 8cm below the rib cage."
marshall
04-03-2001, 12:48 PM
I hold the shuttle by the tip of one feather and point the feathers toward the net, releasing just before I contact the cork during my forehand doubles serve. I can do some slice this way, although not nearly as much as a backhand server. I can produce an offspeed flight, which sometimes is useful.
Another possibility for forehand slice:
One of our players used to play for Pakistan years ago. She tosses the shuttle out in front of herself and can hit short, drive, or lift high to the long service line(usually landing about 1 cm. inside the service court; I have been caught several times on this). Anyway, sometimes she strikes the shuttle while it's at an angle, not vertical. She could probably slice if she wanted to.
marshall
04-03-2001, 12:55 PM
Are you confused about what "slice" means? If so, ask someone to show you the overhead slice, and try that a bit. Then apply the racquet face moving across the cork that way when you serve.
A good example of the overhead slice is what Dai Yun catches Camilla Martin with when Dai is in her back righthand corner and hits a steep drop cross court.
Hope this helps.
ummmmm............. I think I understand.
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