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LazyBuddy
08-30-2003, 09:58 PM
This time, guess i have to step away from badminton action for a little while, again...

Playing on the 7th hr tonight, and step on my partner's foot. Then, fell to the floor, and next thing i know. Can't even walk... :(

A "bum" appeared around ankel, and kinda hurt when put force on. So, put some ice for about 1 hr or so, and finally able to drove back home by myself. 2 blocks from parking spot to my home took me 10 min to "jump".

I think for the 1st 24 hrs, i will keep using ice when it hurts, and after this period, I will consider put some icy hot or those chinese medicine oil/scream things to help the blood flow. Definitely have to stay away from action for at least 1-2 weeks. This really pisses me off... :mad:

Any more suggestions??? :confused:

bluejeff
08-30-2003, 10:01 PM
Do a "Michael Jordan treatment".

Steps:
30 seconds warm-water bag
30 seconds cold(or iced) water bag
and keep on exchanging.......for 10 times.

It should make the bum goes down .....:)

LazyBuddy
08-30-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by bluejeff
Do a "Michael Jordan treatment".

Steps:
30 seconds warm-water bag
30 seconds cold(or iced) water bag
and keep on exchanging.......for 10 times.

It should make the bum goes down .....:)

Thnx.

But when should I start to do it? Right now? Or after 24-48 hrs?

bluejeff
08-30-2003, 10:30 PM
I think you can do it now if the bum isn't too "big and tight"
If it is, just put some ice on it.

LazyBuddy
08-30-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by bluejeff
I think you can do it now if the bum isn't too "big and tight"
If it is, just put some ice on it.

Well, according to my own standard ;) , the "bum" was not too big, and not very tight at this moment.

But to be conservative, I guess I will still use ice tonight, and start to use ur method tomo morning.

Thnx a lot.

Winex West Can
08-30-2003, 11:19 PM
If you sprained your ankle and depending on the degree of the sprain, it might be more than 2 weeks.

Might want to have a doctor check it out.

My last sprain a couple of years ago took me about 3-4 weeks to heal. Take it easy and use the off time to focus on mental skills, then. :)

badrad
08-30-2003, 11:24 PM
We will get ankle sprains from time to time. As soon as possible we will soak the entire foot in total ice water. We empty all the ice trays into large bucket or tub, and fill with cold water. Keep the foot in this ice cold water for at least 20 minutes. The first 3-5 minutes are the worse pain from the cold.

The trick when attempting to reduce the swelling within the ankle is that usually the swollen part is insulated totally by bone, muscles and flesh. Ice packs and topical ice treatment can't get in down to the inflamed muscle or tendon.

Usually this treatment for us allows us to get back to playing within 24 hours.

yonexfanatic
08-30-2003, 11:34 PM
actually, instead of waiting 24 hrs, i would recommend putting those chinese medicines on earlier. i might not be a doctor or herbalist, etc..but my mom always tells me to put on those medicines right away if i get a soreness, swelling, bruise, etc...seems to work for me, of couse with the added rest and what not.

A doctor is a good idea if the pain continues.

LazyBuddy
08-31-2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by badrad
We will get ankle sprains from time to time. As soon as possible we will soak the entire foot in total ice water. We empty all the ice trays into large bucket or tub, and fill with cold water. Keep the foot in this ice cold water for at least 20 minutes. The first 3-5 minutes are the worse pain from the cold.


Actually, this was exactly what i did tonight. I used the whole pack of ice (the ice cubes from gas station), and put my foot into the plastic bag for like 2 hrs. Yeah, it was really hurting as teh beginning, so, i forced my eyes to focus on the games, and did not think about the pain.

So, seems i am on the track. Maybe do more tomo...

badrad
08-31-2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
Actually, this was exactly what i did tonight. I used the whole pack of ice (the ice cubes from gas station), and put my foot into the plastic bag for like 2 hrs. Yeah, it was really hurting as teh beginning, so, i forced my eyes to focus on the games, and did not think about the pain.

So, seems i am on the track. Maybe do more tomo... In the morning and for next few days - you need to flex and rotate your ankle, work the joints gently with your hands. This will work out any stiffness, and more important helps to reduce internal scar tissues that built up around the damaged muscles. Not that any long term damage might happen if you don't but later in life you'll start hearing little pops and crackles as you rotate your foot. I have plenty of those noises as I did not take time to rehab when I was younger.

Kaffie
08-31-2003, 05:33 AM
Is there any blood clogs(internal bleeding) around the feet and toes?

I sprained my ankle just about 1.5 weeks ago.
After the sprained, I continue with my game and didn't think much of it though it's swollen. Just used some heat spray on it.

After I got home, I used the ice method on it. But the next few days, I found out that the swelling spread, it spread to the front of my feet, the back and upward above the ankle by the side of my shin.

Went to see a doctor after the swelling and blood clogs (internal bleeding) got more serious. Found out that my ankle ligament torn. The blood clogs appears to be blood coming out from the torn ligament when i exert strength of my ankle.

Haven't been playing since and was advised to rest for 3 weeks at least. :(
Can't wait to get back to playing.

If you think your sprained is serious, better go see a doc LB.

badrad
08-31-2003, 12:46 PM
Sorry to hear about the injury. For most sprains there is the RICE method which stands for Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation.

If you encounter a sprain, rest and default the game would be the first decision to make.

Using heat spray on the injury only made the injury worse, since the heat increases blood flow further damaging the ligament.

Also by spraying you probably had to remove the shoe which released compression that the shoe had on the foot, allowing excess blood to pump into the foot.

badrad
08-31-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
Actually, this was exactly what i did tonight. I used the whole pack of ice (the ice cubes from gas station), and put my foot into the plastic bag for like 2 hrs. Yeah, it was really hurting as teh beginning, so, i forced my eyes to focus on the games, and did not think about the pain.

So, seems i am on the track. Maybe do more tomo... For treatment sake, just be cautious that longer is not always better for you.

Be careful when using ICE not to keep it on too long since cold treatment is used to reduce blood flow, not stop it, which could occur. If left on too long you might cause damage to extremities (ie. toes) due to frostbite - it may sound funny - but this has been known to happen from using localized ice treatments. 1/2 hr to 40 minutes should be more than adequate for an ankle or large joint. If you sprained a finger or toe, then icing for 10 to 15 minutes will be enough.

LazyBuddy
08-31-2003, 03:37 PM
About 20 hrs, now.

Use a little bit ice to "cool" is again, for about 20 min. Then, put some chinese medicin cream on. This moment, the inj. spot feels "cool", as the medicine seems working. For the edge part of the injury, since the skin is still "thin", i can feel a little bit "burning" inside already, which according to the medicine guide, seems like a good sign. For the central area, can't really feel, but the skin feels "cool".

I just wonder, when i can start to take a hot shower? Will that be bad to make the blood flow? Or, since already passed the 24 hrs period, and it will actually help to heal?

Thnx for all the advice from all of ur guys. ;)

viver
08-31-2003, 04:19 PM
According to a doctor (former Chinese badminton national team doctor), depending on the severity of the injury, you can start using warm water on your injured area after 24/48 hrs. Ice is used to stop internal hemorrhage due to injury. After hemorrhage is stopped should start the recovery process. Warm water can help the blood flow in your injured area and help the tissue heal. Rest the foot for a week and then if you feel good can start doing simple exercises to strengthen - i.e. light jogging. Badrad already mentioned why light exercises should be done.

The ice/hot water treatment is another method you could try. Professional soccer players had been using this method and found it to be effective. A friend of mine (Brazilian, played football professionally in Europe) explained me how he used to do it:
- 1st/2nd day ice (not applicable to you since your injury is already 1 day old);
- later apply ice on the injured area for about 10/15 mins and then apply heat (hot water) in the injured area; he would repeat 3/4 times daily
- Always start with what you finished the last time - i.e. if you did in your previous session ice/hot then this one should be hot/ice.

I have not tried the ice/hot treatment myself. I did use it on my son when he injured his ankle in football and it seemed to work well. He was running again on the 3rd day.

Wish you a speedy recovery.

LazyBuddy
08-31-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by viver

- 1st/2nd day ice (not applicable to you since your injury is already 1 day old);
- later apply ice on the injured area for about 10/15 mins and then apply heat (hot water) in the injured area; he would repeat 3/4 times daily
- Always start with what you finished the last time - i.e. if you did in your previous session ice/hot then this one should be hot/ice.


viver,

Yeah, it's about 21 hrs now. I only used ice during this period of time. About 3 times. Besides the 1st time kinda long 1-2 hrs, the last two times are just 20 min each time.

So, if i start to use the ice/hot method, maybe I should start with the shower (hot), then, use ice water? Hmmm... sounds like an effective method to me.

Thnx.

viver
08-31-2003, 06:30 PM
From my friends' experience it's very effective. Also this kind of treatment was also mentioned by a physiologist - working with a professional football team in Europe. As you know, the ice to help you heal but you need blood to help you recover. So the hot treament is to increase blood circulation and help the tissue recover faster. To make it a speedier recovery you need some light exercises when you're ready.

Should be smashing again in about 2 weeks time? ;)

LazyBuddy
08-31-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by viver
From my friends' experience it's very effective. Also this kind of treatment was also mentioned by a physiologist - working with a professional football team in Europe. As you know, the ice to help you heal but you need blood to help you recover. So the hot treament is to increase blood circulation and help the tissue recover faster. To make it a speedier recovery you need some light exercises when you're ready.

Should be smashing again in about 2 weeks time? ;)

I see...

Trying this method now, and using some sort of chinese medicine oil as well. After the first "cool" feeling, the medicine starts to show the "heat" effect, and make the area feels comfortable and warm with a little bit soreness. Hope it's a good sign.

ppl told me the worst part for sprain ankel is from 24-72 hrs period. Since prior to that, the blood are still "building", and after 72 hrs (assume not too serious), it will be the time to start to recover. Hope this is true. Now, the bum should reach its max already, and definitely larger than last night, but seems stopped growing already.

2 weeks... hmmm... that's what my plan is. This coming wkend, I will definitely just sit on the courtside and just cheer for ppl. Maybe do a little bit jogging as well. Surely won't play like 10 hrs as I used to do, hehehehehe...

viver
08-31-2003, 07:03 PM
Don't know about Chinese medicine oil. Some Chinese oils do not go well with hot water. Or it's probably my skin sensitivity to the mixture of oil and hot water.

Take your time to rest. I remember my times when playing, if I injured my foot I would be at the practice sessions feeding shuttles to my team mates. If I injured my arm I would be doing my runs and footwork. Work like a slave, no rest!! :(

badrad
08-31-2003, 11:29 PM
There are varied recipes for the chinese medicine oils, and you need to consult the master who made that one you are using as to any cause and effects with hot water.

I remember when I was lot younger and getting an ankle sprained jumping out of a bus. At the time it wasn't badminton practice afterschool, but rather kung fu practice. The master helped me with the sprain with the following treatment -

Chunk of hot ginger, immersed in his medicine wine. !5 minutes of hard rubbing of the sprain with this wine. The intent is to break up the bruise, and the medicine wine and ginger is meant to eliminate the 'bruised blood'. Also using the medicine wine is intended to prevent rheumatism as we get older (foong sup). Other than pain which I nearly blacked out, I really did not see how this treatment reduced the time to repair. I remember the sprain being extremely sore for weeks.

As I got older and learned about RICE, the time from sprain to back to play is in the order of a few days, not weeks. And damned less painful - other than the 20 minutes of searing pain from the ice cold water. Brrrrr.....

Kind of funny though, when we use to spar in kung fu, and we would literally just bash up our forearms and knuckles until they were swollen and pulpy, then we would spend an hour or so sitting around the medicine wine pot and rubbing out the bruises. Talk about Pain upon Pain...

cooler
09-01-2003, 12:24 AM
Talk about Pain upon Pain...

badrad, we are all foolish when we are young;)

viver
09-01-2003, 01:30 AM
Actually I am quite experienced with Tit Ta (Chinese traditional doctors for sprains and fractures) masters. Today is not easy to find a good master. In the olden days, I trust these guys a lot more than an orthopedist. The 'massage' is painful but beats having a cast in your injured area.

Interesting point about the former Chinese badminton team doctor. His methods are a combination of western and eastern. Ice is something that Tit ta never used or at least the experts I went to never used. This doctor would use ice, sometimes infrared, or electric stimulation, and then 'massage' and mixture of herbs and oils on your injured part. Quite interesting and effective.

Californian
09-01-2003, 02:55 PM
Just because you have one bad ankle, you don't have to be completely inactive.

You'll have to keep from stressing it for awhile, and you'll have to stay off the court, but you can still work out your upper body as long as it is something you can do while seated--maybe also practice swings. Also, you can still work your other leg--seated single leg presses, knee extensions, hamstring curls, etc. Then, as your ankle gets better, you can work the upper muscles on that leg.

Anyway, that's what I do with those kinds of "minor" injuries.

LazyBuddy
09-01-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Californian
Just because you have one bad ankle, you don't have to be completely inactive.



Totally agree.

I can still change grips, re-string rackets, etc. :o

jwu
09-02-2003, 03:17 PM
hey buddy, sorry to hear about the bum ankle. keep the swelling down and don't put too much pressure on it. more bedrest for you now :D and you can have time to restring ALL the racquets you have.

ants
09-02-2003, 04:35 PM
Hey LazyBuddy , i guess that we are in the same shoes! I also just had a sprained ankle. Cant move much. I currently using ICE treatment. And also with some chinese oil medicine. Rubbing it. Well one thing you can try and do it to roll your foot gently over a bottle of softdrink or anykind of bottles. It can help in the recovery.

LazyBuddy
09-02-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by ants
Rubbing it. Well one thing you can try and do it to roll your foot gently over a bottle of softdrink or anykind of bottles. It can help in the recovery.

My mom lend me her foot massage machine and forced me to use it. I guess it has the same purpose as the "bottle rolling" method?

LazyBuddy
09-05-2003, 11:09 AM
Today is the 6th day for the injury.

Finally, the foot is not like a big bum, and the swelling area starts to reduce in daily basis. But still like a small bum, like the size when it first injuried.

Started to go back to work (wearing very loose sneaker) since wed, due to way too much project have to be taken care of. I think walking in the office kinda slowed the healing process. Each day came back from work, my foot felt sore, need to use some warm water to make it relax.

Now, I can put some force on the foot, and the pain is not very obvious. The sore feeling is the thing bothers me every single moment. Trying to put my leg on a chair when I am reading stuff, but still have to walk around to attend meetings / trainings. The good thing is, weekend is coming up, and i can give another 2 days of good rest for the foot.

As for now, I usually use warm water for 20 min, then put on some medicine wine then wrap it up before going to sleep each day. Any more suggestions?

badrad
09-05-2003, 11:41 AM
looks to be well into the healing process. likely another week will be back to court.

This is a good example of holistic/non-medicated method to get back to working order. If you do need to resort to pain killers, Advil or IBUProfen has some anti-inflammatory qualities that help to reduce swelling injury. (worse case usage only to resort to medicines, but sometimes necessary- IMHO)

AKFT
09-05-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
Today is the 6th day for the injury.

I think walking in the office kinda slowed the healing process. Each day came back from work, my foot felt sore, need to use some warm water to make it relax.


As for now, I usually use warm water for 20 min, then put on some medicine wine then wrap it up before going to sleep each day. Any more suggestions?

Several thoughts:

1. Look for deep bruising (black & blue). The presence of bruising indicates something is torn or broken, so an x-ray or MRI would be in order. Redness and swelling without bruising usually means minor injury.

2. Ice is for reducing inflammation and swelling. So use it during the early stages after the injury. Heat is for promoting healing, so use it after the 2nd day.

3. A fairly tight elastic wrap or support will help to keep the swelling down and give the area a little more support and make it more comfortable. Elevation also helps.

4. The latest theory on healing is: early mobilization speeds up the healing phase. So a little walking around the office actually helps.

5. Use NSAIDs as needed. Tylenol and Panadol don't help as much since they are pain killers without any anti-inflammatory properties.

Best of luck.:)

LazyBuddy
09-05-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by AKFT
Several thoughts:

1. Look for deep bruising (black & blue). The presence of bruising indicates something is torn or broken, so an x-ray or MRI would be in order. Redness and swelling without bruising usually means minor injury.


Hmmm... kinda scare me a little bit.

I do have a little bit bruising (purple), but way far away from the injury area, more like the edge of welling area and toes. The center of the injury are just swelling and red like a little bum.

Not too much pain but just sore around the injuried spot...

LazyBuddy
09-10-2003, 11:32 PM
Finally...

Plan to get back to some action this sat. Doing sort of walking and jogging the past 2 days, seems the ankel held up well. Pain is down to the very min, but still sore sometimes. Hope the next 2 days will get further improvement.

Just can't sit but not playing. My hands feel weired, and club members are really surprised that they could not see me for 2 wks. Some of them (the ones were not there when i was injuried) even thought I got a gf, and got "grounded" something. :D God knows how they come up with a conclusion like this.

Plan to take it easy on Sat. I think I will do some drills, and join some less competitive games, if possible. Consider I will be running around between 2 clubs for a total of 10 hrs, I will surely take as much break as possible. Consider this as a "test" of my ankel. Of course, if feeling weired, might just go to one, and go back home and relax.

Cheung
09-10-2003, 11:45 PM
I had my own ankle injury but not as serious as yours. Only took a break of 5 days. My coach went easy on the training; I would tell him when the ankle started feeling too sore. I can walk OK but if I do forceful rotation around the joint, it still is sore. That's after 5 weeks after the injury

Probably 10 hours per week is pushing things in the early rehabilitation period.

huh, you got a gf? how come you never told us?

LazyBuddy
09-10-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Cheung


Probably 10 hours per week is pushing things in the early rehabilitation period.

huh, you got a gf? how come you never told us?

I will seriously evaluate my ankel the next 2 days, and on court on sat. If it acting weired, I will consider take more breaks, or just stop it. 10 hours might seem long, but I think i should be ok, if there are enough breaks. Haven't seen my buddies for so long, and can't wait to hit the little feather thing around. ;)

Got a gf??? Nononon... I said that's a crazy thought from my buddies. Since not too many of them were there when I injuried, and most of them could never figure out a reason why crazy players like me could be out of action for 2 weeks, then, u know, rumors and guess started to pop out from nowhere. :rolleyes:

wiers289
09-12-2003, 06:39 AM
What is a gf.
Joop

LazyBuddy
09-12-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by wiers289
What is a gf.
Joop

gf = girl friend. ;)

LazyBuddy
09-12-2003, 03:47 PM
The past 2 days, things getting weired.

Overall, the injury is still healing, and getting better. However, minor pain and soreness popping out here and there without any notice. Plus, 2 weired "cramping" (at least, feel like cramp, a little pain, tight) occured on my foot during sleeping time. The pain and stiffness came without any sign, and my foot can go back to normal within 1 min or so.

Don't know what kinda sign is that. Guess I will evaluation tomorrow morning, and make my final decision by then.

wiers289
09-12-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
gf = girl friend. ;)
After reading the thread I already imagined somekind of court suspension! Girl-friend sound a lot better. By the way, I hope your injury heals fast.
Joop

LazyBuddy
09-13-2003, 10:49 PM
After carefully evaluated my foot this morning, I decided to skip the morning club, and only go to the late afternoon one.

After 4 hrs of drills and less competitive games (many breaks involve), I feel ok with my ankel at this moment. Had a little bit difficulty to speed up and cover effectly, but still satisfied. Overall, don't want to over push myself at this time.

Seems like a good sign of recovery, and hopefully be 100% next week.

Thanks for everyone's great help and wishes. ;)

bigredlemon
09-14-2003, 02:41 AM
that's awsome LB, you'll be playing in no time.

In other news, I'll also be able to start playing again after my long-long break. :D

Loh
09-14-2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
[Got a gf??? Nononon... I said that's a crazy thought from my buddies. Since not too many of them were there when I injuried, and most of them could never figure out a reason why crazy players like me could be out of action for 2 weeks, then, u know, rumors and guess started to pop out from nowhere. :rolleyes: [/B]

Poor LB, nobody to attend to your injured ankle and no baddy for the time being!

Unlike Cheung, whose got a wife to look after him when he is injured and at least he's got his chubby daughter to play with if he can't get to the courts for a game, you are missing something man!

So what's wrong with having a gf? And if you can get one who can play pretty good baddy at that, wow, it will be a real bonus!

Remember we do have fairy tale stories recounted through the BF Forum before and we look forward to reading one from you soon. Good Luck LB!

LazyBuddy
09-14-2003, 02:19 PM
After 4 hrs of action last night, as expected, my foot is a little bit stiff and sore at this moment. Good thing is no more swelling.

Maybe i should continue wear sneakers but not hard leather shoes when I hang out with my friends this morning. The foot is a little bit pain and tired. Guess a hot shower and several more days of rest will do.

More action (10 hrs) coming in 6 more days.

LazyBuddy
09-14-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Loh
Poor LB, nobody to attend to your injured ankle and no baddy for the time being!

Unlike Cheung, whose got a wife to look after him when he is injured and at least he's got his chubby daughter to play with if he can't get to the courts for a game, you are missing something man!

So what's wrong with having a gf? And if you can get one who can play pretty good baddy at that, wow, it will be a real bonus!

Remember we do have fairy tale stories recounted through the BF Forum before and we look forward to reading one from you soon. Good Luck LB!

Loh,

Thanks a lot for ur suggestion and wish. This really makes me feel like BC/BF is like a big family.

I never try to reject any possible "chance", but guess I just did not meet the right one at this moment. After my last relationship (2 yrs ago), I am still enjoying my "single life" right now. Of course, having a caring "mate" is surely sweet, but I definitely having more freedom.

Let's see, and when the "luck" will fall on me, and I will surely share that wonderful experience with ur guys here.

LazyBuddy
09-19-2003, 06:45 PM
Tomorrow, my usual 10 hrs sat is back on my calender again.

With all kinda treatment (hot steam, medicine wine, warm wrap, etc) during the week, I think the foot is better than last week. Still some sore here and there, but much less stiffness.

Just bought an ankel support, hope it's worth the $$$ I spent. A really stupid question, should I wear the support inside the socks, or outside of it. The support is those regular elastic wrap type ones.

kwun
09-19-2003, 06:52 PM
elatic one i wear inside the socks. it does get really smelly after one single session.

i see ppl wear the laced up one outside, also the plastic ones also outside (duh..)

don't go too hard on your ankle quite yet. just play normal and don't go for the real hard lunges...

Cheung
09-19-2003, 06:55 PM
I wear elastic one outside of sock.

BTW, many orthopaedic surgeons think ankle support does not confer much protection.

However, I personally think it helps but not in the way people usually think. IMHO, wearing the ankle support helps my foot fit more snugly within the shoe. This makes the foot more stable leading twisting.

LazyBuddy
09-19-2003, 07:00 PM
Wow, this is quick.

So, seems I can use it either inside or outside, depend on which one makes me more comfortable... Good. Personally, I prefer using it inside, since i am afraid if outside, it will be slippery against my shoes. Just a thought, could be wrong.

Yeah, I will take it easy, some less competitive games, drills, no hard landing or crazy twist.

Agree with Cheung, I just want to get more "secure" position in landing.

kwun
09-19-2003, 07:06 PM
actually it may depend on which type of elastic one. the polypropylene ones you may want to wear outside. that way your sock will absorb the sweat. the cloth ones you can wear inside.

Cheung
09-19-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
So, seems I can use it either inside or outside, depend on which one makes me more comfortable...
Remember to account for the thickness of the sock as well if you wear it outside. That might have bearing on the size of elastic grip you buy. i.e. small vs medium...

LazyBuddy
09-21-2003, 12:02 PM
One more push this week, for usual 10 hrs.

Yesterday, resume my usual 10 hrs on saturday. Of course, taking many more breaks than usual, and try to avoid aggressive moves. The result is not too bad. The ankel and leg felt sore and tired, which I was fully expected. Need to give a little bit more to get it back to 100%, and work my way back to be "in shape".

Can freely move most of the time, but still kinda lack of speed. Still have to rely on partners a lot for more coverage, but much better than last weekend. Losing most of the games, but the scores came much more closer than last wkend as well. 2 games even went into deuce, and enjoyed the games a lot.

Hopefully, next 1 or 2 wks I can do my usual net games again, and get some jump smash back.

3 weeks already... felt like 3 yrs... ;)

ants
09-27-2003, 09:53 AM
Lazybuddy.. hows ur ankle so far? I hope its already almost fully recoverd since u have already played. My ankle is almost recover as well. Have been playing regularly last week and i will be playing tomorrow as well. try to stretch the ankle before you play. I usually bandage my ankle. I dont really use the slip on ankle support. More stable for me and i can adjust it at the same time.

LazyBuddy
09-27-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by ants
Lazybuddy.. hows ur ankle so far? I hope its already almost fully recoverd since u have already played. My ankle is almost recover as well. Have been playing regularly last week and i will be playing tomorrow as well. try to stretch the ankle before you play. I usually bandage my ankle. I dont really use the slip on ankle support. More stable for me and i can adjust it at the same time.

Hey, thanks for the advice and warm wish. Feel very good that u can dig out this old thread, and bring the warm feeling to my heart. ;)

Played another 10 hrs today, felt good. More improvement from last week, can do more "twisting", running, and jumping again. Of course, damn crazy ones still try to avoid. I think it should be 85% recovered. Just still a little bit sore and kinda getting tired easier than usual.

Feel good about being able to perform to a reasonable standard on court. Moving forward should be no problem, but moving backward still lack of confidence sometimes. But I think that's more like a mental issue rather than physical problem. I do use ankel support, and do some warm up before drills. Hope these coudl help me a lot.

Best wish for ur ankel and all ur future success in badminton. ;)

ants
09-27-2003, 11:01 PM
Sure mate.. :)

Loh
09-28-2003, 09:16 PM
Hi LB

Glad to learn that your ankle is recovering.

Did you say you played 10 hours of badminton in a day! You must be very fit and how on earth can you book a place for 10 hours and with someone to play with you all this while? They must be baddy fanatics just like you.

I think some of the more regular world-class players are now suffering from mental and physical fatigue juding from their performance a the recent world tournaments. Not a few have to withdraw, the latest casualty being Chen Hong who conceded his match to Wong Choong Hann after losing the first game at the Denmark Open because of an elbow injury. Of course Xia has yet to recover fully from his calf injury after his hard-fought game with Ong Ewe Hock. Some other players are smart enough not to participate in all the tourneys to save themselves from injury and loss of form.

LazyBuddy
09-28-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Loh
Hi LB

Glad to learn that your ankle is recovering.

Did you say you played 10 hours of badminton in a day! You must be very fit and how on earth can you book a place for 10 hours and with someone to play with you all this while? They must be baddy fanatics just like you.



Loh,

Thanks for all the encouragement. I took more breaks than usual these past 2 weeks, and aiming for a long run, rather than 1-min "braveness".

There are not any 10 hr clubs. Instead, I go to 2 clubs on each sat. I usually leave home around 7:50am, take my mom to work, pick up a friend, then, went to the gym. The 1st club starts between 9-9:30am, and ends around 3-3:30pm. Then, took a fast lunch, and drove 25 miles back to the 2nd club. Play from 6-10, then, walking home on sore legs.

Tiring but wonderful saturdays. Help a lot for my endurance training.

LazyBuddy
10-12-2003, 09:47 PM
After playing with usual weekend schedule (10-14 hrs from Fri to Sat), seems that my ankel passed the test.

Generally, I can run, jump without over worry too much. Only when I played for long, the right foot (injuried one) tend to be getting sore and tired much easily than the left one. Usually, I will take a break, and put on some medicine cream right away. Once I can feel the hot feeling, I will take another 10 min, and resume playing.

Life is short, play more... :D