It's actually Sep 22, 1 am in Vancouver. WTSN channel (110??) in Shaw cable is showing the finals of Swiss Open 2001 - currently XD finals. If anybody reading this message go and switch on the TV.

Some news fr people in N America :

1) Rupert Murdoch's Star is negotiating wihh AOL-Time-

Warner to bring Star to US TV and Us programs to China.

2) IBF has given all it's TV rights to a private management Co.

Perhaps there will be more broadcasts now that badminton on

TV has been commercialised.

3) I have been told by an American Hawaii that it is quite

common to receive Star by sattelite on East Coast of US.

how about canada? we are north american too! :(

YES, we are in the North American continent and hopefully the deal is big enough to cover the whole continent :-)

Dear fellow badminton companions,

I have a question to ask the ones who know. Is there any badminton on TV in Canada, and I heard one of the reasons that the games were shortened to 7x5 was because of advertising. But how come I don't see much of this in effect, I hope soon Badminton would be on tv and it will be a more common sport in Canada. Another reason for shortening the games were to put commercials in between the games.

YES!!!!! Bring it to the Evanston as well..... I MISS BADMINTON!!!!!!!!!! =(

The only times I know that badminton is shown for sure on tv are the summer olympics and the pan-am games. I don't know of anything else. I'm just as curious as you about it being on tv though.

Where's Eva...whatever?

There were no coverage for the Sydney 2000 olympics on Badminton in Canada...

i didn't see any pan-am games on TV neither.

Evanston's a beautiful but boring suburb half an hr's drive away from Chicago.

1 hr 45 minutes to my next class... how can I live without the Internet? =P

Where's Chic....?? All I know is that it should be windy there.

if you ever find info on how to get badminton on tv in chicago, please yell... well maybe i shouldn't have to tell you that... ;-)
------------
sam, cold and starving for badminton on tv fer 3 years and counting...

Chicago's in the Midwest or Mideast (can never remember which) of the USA. It is windy alright. And the weather's pretty erratic too. It was so cold this morning, I was jumping all the way to class. Then it got so hot in the afternoon, but I didn't dare take off my jacket coz you never know when the wind might come. Add that to a pile of readings on the second day of school, a boring lecture tt I don't even know why I signed up for and NO BADMINTON......... tt's enuff to drive anyone crazy.

Sorry, I'm complaining again.

I think most of you could have missed the significance of IBF
leasing their TV rights to a private co. It means that instead of sitting on their fat assess the IBF can collect royalties from the co. anytime it chooses to make broadcast or produce programs or Vcd's. Given future economic outlook an enterprising private co should be able to develop badminton in the media as they have a profit incentive.At least there is something to look forward to.

um, there's open badminton in evanston, not sure what night they play but it used to be thursday nights. here's the url for the midwest badminton assoc, they have listings of places where you can play but i am not sure if it's updated.
http://www.geocities.com/~mbapage

- sam

Thank you Sam, though I really dun think I have time to do anything except study (and spend some time on my favorite badminton site) at the moment. I'm already feeling stressed out and the first week isn't even over.

I had another s***ty day today coz I couldn't get this course I wanted. In an act of defiance, I skipped my original class for this one and bought the required reading material as well. I hope Heaven is moved by my determination. SIGH.

thats why i have to ask my cousin to type the sydney badminton matches for me in singapore.

i saw some matches on the new sports channels on tv.. i have shaw digital cable and it was one of the 100+ channels it was on pretty late though...
The sydney olympics was on too that was like on at 3:00 in the morning mountain time on CBC. i fell asleep so i missed out on that

when was that?! I have Bell ExpressVu...donno if I have that channel or not!!!!!

Anybody know where we can check the schedules?

I have ExpressVu too. I've caught Badminton on the new WTSN (Women's Sports Network) preview channel, which I will probably subcribe to. I believe that it is channel 397, right below 398, the RNBA (Raptors NBA) channel. Since it's a women's channel they only showed the Uber Cup semi's and final's. Hopefully, more channels will be showing Badminton.

WSTN showed some badminton again this morning - Uber Cup 2000 in KL. Denmark vs Korea and China vs Indonesia. Not too bad for a start but pity only ladies games

I don't know how to convert the time zones and all that but in Vancouver B.C. Canada, there will be badminton on from 1:30 to 3:30PM (good, we don't have to wake up early in the morning) on CBC on October 13, 2001.

I got this info off www.badmintonbc.com if you're wondering if I'm telling the truth.

Hey everyone... I tried emailing TSN and CTV Sportsnet about putting badminton on TV. They replied and said if enough people were interested they would probably put it on TV. How bout everyone who wants to have badminton on TV in Canada (I'm in Toronto.. but I guess there's TSN also in the West and all over Canada isnt there ? ) .. email TSN and CTV asking for badminton ?

Here's the email for the TSN guys : audiencerelations@tsn.ca
I forgot the email for CTV but u can find it on the ctv sportsnet website..

Just a thought....

DR

i have been doing that every year for the past 4 yrs, TSN, CTV and CBC

there is going to be badminton on CBC on October 13, 2001. Saturday 1:30pm to 3:30pm. If you don't believe me, check www.badmintonbc.com

Josh...
you forgot to mention whether that was pacific time, mountain standard, or eastern standard time.

I checked the TV Guide, it's 1:30 to 3:30 est time. It is suppose to be the World Championships from Seville, France.

Seville, SPAIN you mean. Also what time would that be on in pacific time??? Is it three hours behind??? I think so...

if they don't cancel in the last minute, it would be cool. watching badminton on cbc would be crystal clear compare to the badminton tape i have. 2 hr is not much, so it would be interesting to see how they broadcast it, probable some hi-light and good portion of the final. spread the good news to the club you play at about the badminton telecast, and don't FORGET to email cbc to show your appreciation and thank you after the telecast.

So it's on 10:30AM Pacific Time on October 13th, right?

i believe it and i see it :)

yeah, the canadian team went there to compete.
Maybe we get to watch them getting cream.

how long does it take for TSN to email you back??? I just emailed them at the beginning of the day and i haven't got word from them???

i got a reply the next day from both CTV and TSN

i have an idea for the petition. why don't you make a thread for the petition and get everyone to just type in if they want badminton on tsn or something and once we have enough "requests" just send the threads by email to tsn or ctv... it would be much faster than everyone emailing.

check your local time, because it might be on at the sametime across the country, as most sports are usually simul-cast for us.

I gotta check out the doubles!!! LOL :p
and Camilla.hehe

cruel cooler, :lol:
but true.

That might not be so effective. Imagine receiving a 1000 name petition once compared to 1000 e-mails over a period of time. Which would give more impact??

Apparently WTSN will be televising selected games of the Japan 2002 Open. Details as follows (taken from Badminton Canada)


2002 Japan Open Badminton on WTSN (2 hours)
(May 21st at 8 p.m., repeat May 22nd at 1 a.m., 7 a.m., & 2 p.m.)
Thank you notes to Susan Runcie, email - sruncie@wtsn.ca.

It doesn't specify which time zone but I would think it is EST but please check the TV listings for your area.

Now-I-regret-more-and-more-that-I-relocate-from-Canada-to-US.

no.. my parents cancelled wtsn...
but we should really convince tsn or cbc to show canadian nationals or something.

Keep up the good works guys. At the minimum, make badminton
as popular in Canada as Hockey, baseball or football. And maybe
this would have a positive influence on the US TV stations.

Well, at least some day when I return to Canada, I'd have a
lot more badminton to watch. ;)

Just received an e-mail from WTSN informing they will be showing a few weeks later the Uber Cup, China Super Meet (??) and the Dutch Open.

It's really great news here. It seems that the letters to them finally is paying off !! :D

Hey viver,
then can you also help me write a letter asking them to broadcast MD and MS too?..:p

Hi,

Shame that no badminton is shown over here. Bloody rediculous.

Matt

BBC charge us so much money and dont even ask what we want to watch!

Like horseriding. COZ WE ALL LOVE HORSERIDING!! GET BADMINTON ON THE TELE!

they don't have badminton in england?? wow... that's actually rather surprising to me... since there are a large number of people that play badminton in england...

Viver, what channel is wtsn?!!

What time are they going to broadcast it?
is it going to be this season or next season?
thanks.

Tell me about it Nanashi. The most badminton i've seen on TV is 30 mins of the all england finals and thats it.

Matt

I have never seen Badminton on TV in America. When I go back to China for vacation I see it very often. They show badminton and table tennis, like how we show basketball and baseball. I think somehow badminton officials could make badminton on TV work. I would definately want to see that. I do agree that it is harder to show compared to tennis, because the matches dont last too long, and also badminton commentary is kinda harder.
-Later

Hey Matt,

Be thankful that at least you get 30 minutes..we hardly even get to read or hear any news of it either on TV or tele..not even a pathetic 10 seconds mention..*sigh*

The only time we've heard of badminton or even caught a glimpse was during the Sydney Olympics and the kiwis were playing..and it was like at 3 am or something and it lasted probably 10 minutes..and even then, only coz there was nothing better they could show or they were killing time before the next interesting (hah!) event turns up..:rolleyes:

The only time i get to watch any badminton, like Thomas Cup is probably like at least 2 months after the actual event being held...from a video tape borrowed from a friend of a friend of a friend from Malaysia..and at times, doh, if they tape it on either a SP or LP (standard and long play) may affect the quality of the tape and you hardly see anything..*sigh* Okey..I've done my daily whining for today..hehe..moving on!

The sad kiwi cheek :)

Originally posted by tonten
Viver, what channel is wtsn?!!

What time are they going to broadcast it?
is it going to be this season or next season?
thanks.

Tonten,
WTSN is Women's Sports Channel - channel # 104 in Shaw Cable. The e-mail mentioned that they have scheduled badminton and it will be shown sometime during the following weeks. Check their website to confirm the dates.

They will show only LS, LD and XD. They can't show MS and MD due to licencing agreement. Hey, at least we can watch the best in ladies games. :D

I can watch badminton on TV daily. It is not a Pay Channel and it is run by the government. i can watch atleast 2 hrs daily. They screen many tournaments for the past and very important tournamenst can be watched live from QF onwards.

so i guess i am lucky. India has a huge fan following whether they do well or not in the sport. so i guess it is very important for the national channel to relay it.

It is sad that the relay it at odd times. They relay it at something like 11 or 9 in the morning and 7or 9 in the evening. Most plp will miss the 11 or 9 session. Both the sessions are played daily.

If there is relay in the morning then there will be a relay in the evening, The sad part is sometimes they will just play something else. yesterdday suddenly a local tournament's feed was cut and Bam came on a match between Lou Y.g and some one else. It was The All china games. They showed 2 sets and then it disappeared fro sailing.

but they genrally show badminton matches fully.

Originally posted by viver


They will show only LS, LD and XD.

makes sense to me... seeing as how this is wtsn...

Maybe it is time to start organising as many people as possible to send letters to the BBC before the Commonwealth Games get here. I saw a small amount of badminton from the Olympics and the token half-hour from the All-England. With the World Championships coming to England next year we should act now. Write a letter to the BBC along the right lines and then get it signed by all your club members.

I am quite cynical about the effect it will have but we have got to try. What is put on TV is more about how much sponsorship is invested in the sport than what the public actually wish to view. Every year at Wimbledon the BBC state, usually at the beginning of the second week, that "You are always telling us that you want to see more doubles, so here is 2 minutes of a very exciting game happening on Court 1." More often than not they will screen a repeat of the mornings dull singles match rather than play a live game of doubles. Sometime they even screen a match from the 70's or 80's, but still no doubles.

I guess the only way to see badminton on TV in the US is to get a satellite feed from one of the other countries.

When I did a search of the two major US cable sports networks' sites, I got these replies:

ESPN:
badminton is not a valid Keyword.

Fox Sports Net:
Sorry, but there were no matches for your search.

Originally posted by Californian
I guess the only way to see badminton on TV in the US is to get a satellite feed from one of the other countries.

When I did a search of the two major US cable sports networks' sites, I got these replies:

ESPN:
badminton is not a valid Keyword.

Fox Sports Net:
Sorry, but there were no matches for your search.

shows how popular badminton is in north america

we north americans show the most interesting things.... FULL coverage of a spelling bee, yet not even a glimpse of badminton...

Slanter,

Good idea, i like the club members signing the letter etc. Just amazes me we wing a bronze medal in the OLYMPICS and still we hardly get any. I'll tell you what i will email grandstand to see what their current plans are on the commonwealth games, and i will post the response on here. But i may take up your idea cause it pisses me off how little badminton we get to see.

Matt

To Yogi :

Any chance someone in India might have captured short clips

of 70's /80's of maybe Asian games which featured Tang Xian Hu

Liem Swie King and maybe Prakash?

Is it a problem for videos entering and leaving India?

It seems in Singapore if u send videos by mail it will be confiscated

by their censorship board.

Slanter,

Sounds like a great idea and it is similiar to my endeavours that I have been doing to get some sort of TV/Radio coverage for the Karakal Welsh International based here in Cardiff, end of Nov.

I hope to get something for this tournament as the UK needs to establish some big tournaments other than the All England where there is a willingness for everyone to come and watch. The problem is there is no fans to support the game .....such as how many of you went to watch last years Karakal Welsh International .....not many as I was there.

The change in mentality of all of us must be to go to these tournaments to both watch excellent players (Kelly Morgan MBE, Richard Vaughn were there ..) but more importantly to support the game. The standard may not be as high as the All England but if no fans bother to turn up then what happens .....it will eventually die ...which means one less cog in the wheel for the death of badminton.

The http://www.welshbadminton.net/website/index2.htm where if you click on discussion forums>badminton on TV..........you will see I have made contact with the Head of Sport for BBC Wales.

I am very frustrated by the state of play of the lack of badminton on TV, as I check my TV guide today in the Daily Mail I see 20 or so different sports that will be shown this week but no Badminton.

Please note these are my thoughts.

Cheers,
Sean (Ex-Australian living in Wales)

Hehe, I just saw that spelling bee on TSN I think it was a few days ago. Can you believe the prize for the winner was $12,000!! That's more than the U.S. Open for Badminton. In addition to this $12,000 there was also a bunch of other stuff, including a savings bond. Just shows the popularity between badminton and spelling in America.

Phil

those spelling bee kids are nerds!!!

****.. you can't be serious... lol.. spelling bee kids get more money then badminton?!

So, do we have any confirmation of the schedule? I've gone to www.wtsn.ca to check but could not find anything.

If anyone knows, please post as I want to tape the matches. Thanks.

Just checked the schedule for WTSN and they planned to show the Japan Open Doubles Finals (Women) at the following times (PST):

Oct 29, 10 pm PST and the following day (Oct 29) at 2 am and 4 pm (about 1.5 hours)

and the Swiss Open (Singles, Doubles and Mixed) on

Nov 3, 2 am PST

Last week they showed Japan Open singles - Zhou Mi vs Dai Yun.

I'd suggest badminton fanatics to write to WTSN to encourage them showing more badminton. I believe they will pay more attention to badminton if there is a considerable number of requests.

viver, does wtsn shows only the women matches?

Cooler,
WTSN only shows ladies matches and XD. At least they have been showing some high level games. There is a saying something like - when you are hungry you don't choose the food. In a badminton desert like here in Canada, any badminton on TV is good. Japan Open, the ladies doubles was quite entertaining - excellent match.

Badminton for Television in the UK.

It is slightly unfair to slag the BBC at this time, can you imagine how much they must get perstered to cover all the different sports that are loved by so many different people in the UK. (more football, horseraces, golf, tennis, snooker, etc etc)

They (BBC) made a big effort to fit in 75 minutes of LIVE coverage of this years All England Championships (March 2002). This is the first time the BBC has covered the All England since the 1980's and they have signed a 3-year-deal to continue coverage which may be added too should people actually tune in and watch.

Now, Sky TV had three days worth of coverage, 90% of it LIVE from the NIA on Sky Sports. Of course, they have the benefit of having more than one channel to broadcast on and can fit all the sports in that the people want to see. Yes, it could have more all year round but they do cover some of the other events such as programmes with the Copenhagen Masters and such like. It is due to other factors and not viewing numbers that BSkyB is just not going to get anything from the Asian part of the world to cover tournaments there.

That leaves the network with covering the European Circuit which is not always blessed with the top players in the world (whom are mostly from Asia) and therefore, is the badminton public really that interested?

Thought you guys might want to know that BBC is showing the badminton world cup from 2:30 to 5:00pm on Sat Nov 9.

Japan Open also showing this week on some weird channel I don't have (channel 156!)

Hi, Where did you get the info? Thanks!

Don't know why CBC would call it the World Cup. It's actually the Canadian Open that was recently held in Surrey, BC that they are actually showing.

The program will be repeated the following Sunday at 23:30 local time.

Originally posted by Tammy
Hi, Where did you get the info? Thanks!

TV Guide :D

Originally posted by bigredlemon
Thought you guys might want to know that BBC is showing the badminton world cup from 2:30 to 5:00pm on Sat Nov 9.

Japan Open also showing this week on some weird channel I don't have (channel 156!)

Thanks Bigred. But did you actually mean the CBC or is it BBC??

Originally posted by Hugo


Thanks Bigred. But did you actually mean the CBC or is it BBC??

Doh! Well we only have one anyways :)
the same channel that brough you Road to Avonlea :(

Originally posted by bigredlemon


the same channel that brough you Road to Avonlea :(

Awwww, did you have to remind me of that one??? It's almost as bad as Emily of New Moon! :p

Originally posted by Hugo


Awwww, did you have to remind me of that one??? It's almost as bad as Emily of New Moon! :p

New Moon? What's that? Wait...er..... never mind (shudders at though of avonlea)

bigredlemon, would you please post the time and date of Japan open (channel 156). My sister has lots of cable channels. Maybe she can tape it for me. Thanks!

Originally posted by Tammy
bigredlemon, would you please post the time and date of Japan open (channel 156). My sister has lots of cable channels. Maybe she can tape it for me. Thanks!

www.TVGuide.ca
type in your postal code, and you are all set!

is it live or just taped?

Channel 156 is WTSN.

Originally posted by nSmash
Channel 156 is WTSN.

Yea... they only have women's singles/doubles i think

Badminton on CBC TV: Badminton World Cup
Sat nov 9 and nov 16
11:30 - 1300 PST

Sunday nov 10 and nov 17
2100-2230 PST

Dont Miss it!!!!


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/schedule/

Pls Forward out to all badminton fans.

what about East Coast?

minuse that time by 3 hours?

Originally posted by Acekiller
Badminton on CBC TV: Badminton World Cup
Sat nov 9 and nov 16
11:30 - 1300 PST

Sunday nov 10 and nov 17
2100-2230 PST

Dont Miss it!!!!


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/schedule/

Pls Forward out to all badminton fans.

I think it should be the Canadian Open, not the World Cup.

Originally posted by cooler


I think it should be the Canadian Open, not the World Cup.
We'll find out on SAT, won't we!

Originally posted by bigredlemon

We'll find out on SAT, won't we!

Badminton:
World Cup
from Vancouver
Sept. 12-15

don't have to, viver, badrad, wwc were there,
and my tournament schedule also says Canadian Open.:p

Only cups i know are thomas, uber, and sudiman cup

whooo!!!

finally, the wait is over... badminton on canadian tv once again, perhaps the badminton coverage is more frequent now? from 6 months to 3?

Originally posted by cooler


Badminton:
World Cup
from Vancouver
Sept. 12-15

don't have to, viver, badrad, wwc were there,
and my tournament schedule also says Canadian Open.:p

Only cups i know are thomas, uber, and sudiman cup

Well lets hope when they said "Badminton World Cup" they didn't mean "Curling World Cup" or something... Imagine the uproar if the CBC confused the NHL with the OHL or something:eek: ? I guess we should be glad we're getting anything at all.

i was really disappointed, no offence they could all kick my ass, i was hoping to see more exciting badminton...

at least you got to see it!! grr... i was out and forgot to tape it... one of the sins of badminton :eek: forgetting to tape it when i have such rare oppurtunity... sigh...

Originally posted by TOmike
i was really disappointed, no offence they could all kick my ass, i was hoping to see more exciting badminton...

So it was a dub? From the badminton clips I see on the net, I figured it'd be pretty intense... like those martial arts fighting clips with all that jumping and kicking? Well I didn't get to watch because I've got no TV right now... but i got it taped on VCR (i think?) so i'll check it out next week.

Was it the World Cup or the Canadian Open? I head something about England vs England in there somewhere.

There will be badminton on CBC tonight 7pm PST - 8:30 pm PST. I think it's a replay of Saturday's matches. So you may still tape it.

Originally posted by mojoe
at least you got to see it!! grr... i was out and forgot to tape it... one of the sins of badminton :eek: forgetting to tape it when i have such rare oppurtunity... sigh...

Originally posted by TOmike
i was really disappointed, no offence they could all kick my ass, i was hoping to see more exciting badminton...

It's actually Canadian Open. It's not as exciting as say Japan or Swiss Open, but I like it better. The pace is much slower than that in Japan or Swiss Open. That's why I could do some analysis while watching ( I was lost while watching the Koreans and Chinese play. They were so fast). They also made some unforced errors, just like I often do :) So I feel better about my skills :0 (hehe).

dun worry joe, if i ever see u u can keep my tape.. LOL. i'd rather watch fast paced games.. and asian guys going at it..

It was the Canadian Open in Surrey BC. Mens Final was Eng vs Eng, Haughton vs Ghaffar... there was LD which was Eng vs Eng, and pretty much an "All England" match.

when's the replay? i live in toronto so what time will it be on? i checked tv guide website and it says 12 but u guys said 7

Originally posted by alex l
when's the replay? i live in toronto so what time will it be on? i checked tv guide website and it says 12 but u guys said 7

Sorry, alex. It's 12am (midnight) in Toronto or 9pm Pacific Time (say, in Vancouver).

Canadian Open part 2 on CBC, 2:30 to 5:00 EST.

I just finnished watching part 1 that i taped before. I've never watched a full badminton game at that level before, and I have to agree with TOmike that it was rather dissapointing. For mens singles, most of the drops shots went past the service line, they were smashing from the tramlines, short serves were over a feet above the net, etc. They all made a lot of moves that were really dissapointing, and often too. At least I found some ideas/strategies for my next games. Even though the game seemed amaturish, I think I learned alot about the game dynamics and strategies. Seems like whoever won the point did so because he chose the right shot type, and shot accuracy seemed not too important.

Does anyone know what they will show this time? Last weekend it was men singles and women doubles.

I believe that it will be men doubles, women singles and the mixed (not sure of this one but most likely since it's 2.5 hrs long)

i'm not even watching that second part.. i was so disappointed.. plus i wiped a movie tape for the first part... grrr
lol.

On CBC Toronto web site, it says the show will be from 2:30 to 4:00, not 5:00. I'm just wondering if they'll have time to show all the 3 remaining matches (men doubles, women singles and mixed doubles).

Originally posted by Winex West Can
I believe that it will be men doubles, women singles and the mixed (not sure of this one but most likely since it's 2.5 hrs long)

Originally posted by bigredlemon
Canadian Open part 2 on CBC, 2:30 to 5:00 EST.

I just finnished watching part 1 that i taped before. I've never watched a full badminton game at that level before, and I have to agree with TOmike that it was rather dissapointing. For mens singles, most of the drops shots went past the service line, they were smashing from the tramlines, short serves were over a feet above the net, etc. They all made a lot of moves that were really dissapointing, and often too. At least I found some ideas/strategies for my next games. Even though the game seemed amaturish, I think I learned alot about the game dynamics and strategies. Seems like whoever won the point did so because he chose the right shot type, and shot accuracy seemed not too important.


Drop shots going past the service line? Hrmmm... are you sure it wasn't a smash (or a smash reduced speed?) Or possibly a fast drop....

If short serves were over a feet above the net they would have been easily killed. I doubt it. Maybe from the angle it may of seemed that way.


BUT... I did not watch it so don't quote me... I'll watch it on tape from someone later..

Originally posted by TOmike
i'm not even watching that second part.. i was so disappointed.. plus i wiped a movie tape for the first part... grrr
lol.

but lets face it they are better than we will ever be

sure i guess.

true, and you have to understand the pressure that comes along with it. They are on TV, probably haven't before.

The short serves were high but I think it was part of their strategy to get into a double's style rally. The commentators mention it and throughout the match, the opponent attacks the serve and the defender just pops it over their head.

I do agree that I've seen better

im not gonna miss it this time!!!

i'll be prepared... vcr and everything, even though its not much, but its still badminton on tv in canada!!

Originally posted by ASDFASDF
Drop shots going past the service line? Hrmmm... are you sure it wasn't a smash (or a smash reduced speed?) Or possibly a fast drop....

If short serves were over a feet above the net they would have been easily killed. I doubt it. Maybe from the angle it may of seemed that way.


BUT... I did not watch it so don't quote me... I'll watch it on tape from someone later..

Some of them was skilled pretty quickly. The sad thing is, there was so little deception. The mens single champ ALWAYS served short with the backhand, and long with the forehand. No variety at all.

I flipped by the channel last saturday

and caught a glipse of a men's single game.

IT WAS HORRIBLE!

I can't say I could beat them as I am younger and they have more experience, but some of their shots could have been better.

Espcially that lunge I saw one of the players do. Ouch. If he was playing correctly, he wouldn't have to lunge like that into the net.

I only caught like 10 minutes of that match and then turned off the TV because I had to go to work. What I saw in those 10 minutes looked really disappointing. I thought it would be more competitive.

I know alot of people who are provincially ranked and they are way better than these guys on TV

Originally posted by tonten
I flipped by the channel last saturday

Espcially that lunge I saw one of the players do. Ouch. If he was playing correctly, he wouldn't have to lunge like that into the net.



LOL, the guy who was doing that horrible lunging was Canada's very own Stephen Wowjikewijc (sic)!!!

Now now, you shouldn't be so quick to criticize. Many times the opponent is playing well and making the other player look like crap.

Steph trains full time and makes badminton his life. He deserves kudos for doing well in the tournament. He might not have played the way he liked but he made it far enough. You can't say they guy didn't play right. If he was a beginner, then maybe but he has enough international experience to know "how to play".


Vancouver definitely has great players but for whatever reason, I didn't see them on TV.

The level of badminton in England is still a little bit higher than Canada. I also agree that the level in Canada Open is not that high. The ladies singles final looked entertaining though. Let's hope more players from other countries will come to compete in the future.

We should, in my opinion, appreciate this opportunity that CBC decided to show it on TV. I agree about the level of play but surely better than nothing. It's at least a start and they should be encouraged to show more in the future. Should write them to let them know that we appreciated the game and hopefully they show more badminton around the world in the future.

if badminton fanatics think badminton on tv is crap, everyone else probably thinks it's crapp too and that's why they don't show it that often

Finally CBC is actually showing badminton (not too bad at 1.5 hrs each time) and you guys are complaining about the matches.

Granted that the elite players are not at this tourney (it was only 1 star) but some of the rallies are pretty entertaining. I've attended some of the earlier sessions of the tourney and I can tell you that not even on my best days and their worst days can I win a game against the players.

One of the men players who didn't make it to the final was Kennevic Asuncion from the Phillippines and believe me this guy is quick and explosive. But the game of badminton is more than that and you need to have the stamina, the mental aspects and the ability to change your game plan.

In watching some of the matches, the singles players did mixed it up with their serve (e.g. Overzier was serving long and deep which she then switch to short serves.).

Keep e-mailing CBC and maybe we will get enough interest for them to broadcast the 5/6 stars events like TC/UC.

BTW, badrad, you are on National TV (gotta stop picking your nose :D :D :D ) j/k

Just heard from Fairchild - Chinese TV station: sports program tomorrow 7:00 pm PST, Saturday, January 4, 2003 - will feature Badminton academy in Denmark. Highlights showed Peter Gade training.

Confirmed.
The commercial showed a little bit of Peter Gade doing footwork drills. I think it is the 6 or 8 steps.

I saw this thread exactly 1/2 hr after the programme ended. Boo hoo... :(

dont worry, you didnt miss much, all it did was showcase the badminton training facility in denmark, it didnt really teach anything. one thing you could have done however was observe the brief moments of the players doing footwork drills... kinda overhyped if you ask me

Well if you had Bell Expressvu, you could have watched it on the Vancouver channel...:p Which is Pacific time (3 hours after eastern)?

I think Fairchild does a repeat on some shows like after 1am. You can check the TV guide to double check. But no guarantee that it will be SportsWorld, which is the show where they talk about the IBA (International Badminton Academy) in Denmark.

Originally posted by mojoe
dont worry, you didnt miss much, all it did was showcase the badminton training facility in denmark, it didnt really teach anything. one thing you could have done however was observe the brief moments of the players doing footwork drills... kinda overhyped if you ask me

I wouldn't say it was overhyped. I was pretty impressed. The first time I ever saw a shuttlecock feeder. I wonder how much are those...:D
Also, did you see how fast that coach or person was feeding??!!...
I think I caught a glimpse of Camilla Martin training too...

mojoe: hehe thanks dude.

zero: i used to have both the van and tor fairchilds for no extra charge
when shaw cable was still here. but since rogers took over... grrr... :mad:

Originally posted by nSmash
mojoe: hehe thanks dude.

zero: i used to have both the van and tor fairchilds for no extra charge
when shaw cable was still here. but since rogers took over... grrr... :mad:

Now it's an extra $30 a month... thx Rogers, what a feature! Considering they have one of the worest reuptations for BOTH service and customer service, I wonder where are all my money going. They are probably saving up for mroe mergers and acquisitions rather than actually serving its customers. I already cancelled TV with them. I'm sure if enough of us do it, they''ll smarten up sometime.

Is there any place I can watch badminton on the net besides playbadminton? I don't have TV right now :(

Originally posted by bigredlemon
I don't have TV right now :(

No TV! Man, I admire you. :cool:
Can't you at least get the few broadcast stations?
They're free right?

Yea I saw that coach too!
LOL
He was feeding pretty fast there!

Then my dad walked in front of the TV and I had to help him out with the computer.
So I missed the rest of it :(

Originally posted by nSmash
No TV! Man, I admire you. :cool:
Can't you at least get the few broadcast stations?
They're free right?

Nothing I can't get off the net anyways :) CP24 and CTV can be seen live on their web site, and all the tv episodes I can d/l off the net too. plus, everytime I go to a friends house... more tv :)
I dont think my TV usage actually changed :p :o

Hello to all.
I believe there will be badminton on television tomorrow (24th of February) at 4.30pm on CBC. It's on POV sports, I'm guessing it'll be around 15 minutes but I'm still not sure. I heard it on tv today when I was watching the 2003 winter games hockey. So hopefully I'm not wrong and well... here you go!
wildstyler

I just checked the TV guide and there's no badminton other than "Canada Winter" at 4:30 which is only for 30mins. How about the people in Toronto?

I seen that thing on POV sports, it was about 6 minutes. Nothing specatular, just 2 guys that are participateing in canada winter games showing some basics of badminton

I think CBC should begin to broadcast badminton on saturdays....wat about u?

Originally posted by Ay33
I think CBC should begin to broadcast badminton on saturdays....wat about u?

They did last year, 2 hours of swiss open.
I think TSN should broadcast badminton, over the summer or something. The shows they put on air is pathetic. Bowling, pool, DARTS, etc. No offense to people who like those kind of sports.

Originally posted by Chia
They did last year, 2 hours of swiss open.
I think TSN should broadcast badminton, over the summer or something. The shows they put on air is pathetic. Bowling, pool, DARTS, etc. No offense to people who like those kind of sports.

You got a point. TSN should broadcast some more badminton. Well, speaking of CBC broadcasting the 2002 Swiss Open, yeh, i did see like the finals of each events only, but they should broadcast more badminton of other tourney's. By the way, did they broadcast badminton in the 2002 Commonwealth Games?

Originally posted by Ay33
You got a point. TSN should broadcast some more badminton. Well, speaking of CBC broadcasting the 2002 Swiss Open, yeh, i did see like the finals of each events only, but they should broadcast more badminton of other tourney's. By the way, did they broadcast badminton in the 2002 Commonwealth Games?

They only showed clips of CW games i think, but they did show Canadian nationals.

WTSN is showing the following: (taken off Badminton Canada)

WTSN (all times EST)

China Open Badminton Championships 2002
Wednesday March 05, 2003 @ 8:30 pm (WD), 9:30 pm (MX)
Encore: Thurs. March 06, 2003 @ 1:30 - 3:30 am & 2:30 - 4:30 pm
Thailand Open Badminton 2003
Tuesday March 18, 2003 @ 10 pm (WS), 10:30 pm (MX), 11:30 pm (WD)
Encore: Wed. March 19, 2003 @ 3:00 - 5:30 am & 4:30 - 6:00 pm

For those who don't already know, WTSN is Women's TSN and is available as a premium package in Canada and only shows women sports hence, the matches are WS, WD and XD.

Noooooooooooooooooooo my bro just cancelled his digital cable which had WTSN!

Dangit!

Thanks so much, WWC!

Originally posted by Winex West Can
WTSN is showing the following: (taken off Badminton Canada)

WTSN (all times EST)

China Open Badminton Championships 2002
Wednesday March 05, 2003 @ 8:30 pm (WD), 9:30 pm (MX)
Encore: Thurs. March 06, 2003 @ 1:30 - 3:30 am & 2:30 - 4:30 pm
Thailand Open Badminton 2003
Tuesday March 18, 2003 @ 10 pm (WS), 10:30 pm (MX), 11:30 pm (WD)
Encore: Wed. March 19, 2003 @ 3:00 - 5:30 am & 4:30 - 6:00 pm

For those who don't already know, WTSN is Women's TSN and is available as a premium package in Canada and only shows women sports hence, the matches are WS, WD and XD.

For Canada residents only. Copy and pasted the message from WTSN:





For Immediate Release:
February 25, 2003

Badminton Served Up on WTSN in March


TORONTO - This March join WTSN as we say goodbye to the 2002 Badminton season and hello to 2003. On Wednesday March 05th at 8 pm tune in for the China Open, the last grand prix event of the 2002 season. Then we begin our 2003 coverage with the Thailand Open starting Tuesday March 18th at 10 pm. Catch the world’s best in badminton on WTSN - Women’s Sports Television.

All Times Eastern

China Open Badminton Championships 2002 - Women’s Singles Final
Wednesday March 05, 2003 @ 8 pm
Encore Presentations: Thursday March 06, 2003 @ 1 am & 2 pm

China Open Badminton Championships 2002 - Women’s Doubles Final
Wednesday March 05, 2003 @ 8:30 pm
Encore Presentations: Thursday March 06, 2003 @ 1:30 am & 2:30 pm

China Open Badminton Championships 2002 - Mixed Doubles Final
Wednesday March 05, 2003 @ 9:30 pm
Encore Presentations: Thursday March 06, 2003 @ 2:30 am & 3:30 pm

Thailand Open Badminton 2003 - Women’s Singles Final
Tuesday March 18, 2003 @ 10 pm
Encore Presentations: Wednesday March 19, 2003 @ 3 am & 4:30 pm

Thailand Open Badminton 2003 - Mixed Doubles Final
Tuesday March 18, 2003 @ 10:30 pm
Encore Presentations: Wednesday March 19, 2003 @ 3:30 am & 5 pm

Thailand Open Badminton 2003 - Women’s Doubles Final
Tuesday March 18, 2003 @ 11:30 pm
Encore Presentations: Wednesday March 19, 2003 @ 4:30 am

* Schedule subject to change. Please check your local listings.

- 30 -
For more information, please contact:
Dave Capling, Program Coordinator, WTSN (416) 332-7526, dcapling@wtsn.ca

we should really try to convince TSN to carry this instead of WTSN.

I'm curious to know why WTSN sees value in badminton but TSN doesn't?

This is the description on the Rogers website for Fox Sports World in Canada:

Soccer is the fastest growing sport in the world. Now FOX Sports World Canada brings you some of the best soccer the world has to offer. With an emphasis on the sports the others miss, FSWC is a sports channel devoted to soccer, cricket and rugby. Whether you are a new fan or a lifelong follower, FOX Sports World Canada brings you a whole new world of choice.

How come "emphasis on the sports others miss" doesn't include badminton?!?!?
:mad: :mad: :mad: BS advertising.

I was hoping to get WTSN for maybe an extra $2/mth but noooo.... Rogers
wants me to pay $8+tax to get 8(!) other sports channels I don't care about.

If letter writing campaigns can bring back star trek... i'm sure it can bring badminton to a sports channel dedicated to "sports that other channels miss"

Originally posted by bigredlemon
If letter writing campaigns can bring back star trek... i'm sure it can bring badminton to a sports channel dedicated to "sports that other channels miss"

I think it'll be awhile before we can identify with the trekkies. Imagine national
badminton conventions where badminton diehards from all over meet some-
where to mingle, dressed (complete with makeup or mask and fake hair) like
their favourite on-court heroes. ;) :D

Originally posted by nSmash
I think it'll be awhile before we can identify with the trekkies. Imagine national
badminton conventions where badminton diehards from all over meet some-
where to mingle, dressed (complete with makeup or mask and fake hair) like
their favourite on-court heroes. ;) :D

From what I hear, there are lots of events where local/provincial/national badminton lovers get together dressed like their players, complete in badminton shorts, shirts, and racquet, to do mimic their favorite players by playing badminton. And every week!

'Sports World' (or whatever its called)
For ppl in Toronto
Fairchild TV
Saturday March 8th
7 p.m.

When I first read that WTSN was showing China Open and Thailand Open matches, I just shrugged because I only have 4 TV channels, of which 2 are semi blurry!:( But this morning at school, one of my best friends came up to me in computer class and sayed "man, I have a special badminton surprise for you!" and pulls a video tape. It turned out he was flipping through his 300+ channels last night and caught the China Open matches halfway through the WD finals. Knowing I loved badminton, he had the consideration to record it for me and he actually watched the whole thing even though he finds badminton quite boring! Now, all I gotta do is get him to record Thailand Open...

Well anyway, regarding the matches:
In XD, I noticed Zhang Jun is playing much smarter now than I remembered him. On many occasions, where other players would proabably have cleared, he did quick drives and caught Chen QiQiu off guard. Also, he had some nice behind-the-back returns. Chen QQ and Zhao TT need to play more consistently against Zhang/Gao and have more confidence. They were up 4-1 in second game and ended up losing 11-4.

Anybody else watch the matches and have any thoughts regarding them??

Hugo,
In regard to your best friend fliping through 300+ channels and found badminton games, could you find out what TV carrier? I presume is satellite TV?
I'm interest to find out if it's available in Ontario.
Thanks.

Originally posted by bbjj
Hugo,
In regard to your best friend fliping through 300+ channels and found badminton games, could you find out what TV carrier? I presume is satellite TV?
I'm interest to find out if it's available in Ontario.
Thanks.

I am pretty sure if you have bell express vu, you should be able to get it if you subscribed to it. Same with cable.

Originally posted by bbjj
Hugo,
In regard to your best friend fliping through 300+ channels and found badminton games, could you find out what TV carrier? I presume is satellite TV?
I'm interest to find out if it's available in Ontario.
Thanks.

Hi bbjj,

My friend has StarChoice Satellite but however, WTSN is available on cable and digital cable too. The next badminton showing on WTSN will be the Thailand Open on Tuesday, march 18, 2003 starting at 10 PM Eastern Time. This will be re-aired on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 from 3:00 - 5:30 AM & 4:30 - 6:00 PM.
BTW, he's already agreed to record it for me!:D

Hello!

I live in Canada and I want to know if there are any other TV stations here that play badminton. I already have WTSN and CBC, which rarely play badminton though. So I'm askin which TV stations should I get, either through digital cable or satellite, so I can watch badminton frequently and some high profile tournaments?

I believe such a thing does not exist in this country :(. Although satelite might be able to provide coverage if you find any that offer the asian sports channels that frequently cover badminton (Star Sports is one I think). I also suggest looking for video tape coverage.

If you live in Ottawa, you could always try to check out A level tournaments held at the RA Centre. They aren't the best in the world but some national team players do play there from time to time. Nothing beats watching badminton live :).

Originally posted by NiMa
Hello!

I live in Canada and I want to know if there are any other TV stations here that play badminton. I already have WTSN and CBC, which rarely play badminton though. So I'm askin which TV stations should I get, either through digital cable or satellite, so I can watch badminton frequently and some high profile tournaments?

chance of seeing Elvis on the street would be higher than seeing badminton on tv.:o

Originally posted by cooler
chance of seeing Elvis on the street would be higher than seeing badminton on tv.:o
How about chance of winning 6/49? Can buy plane tickets to all tournaments
and build own court in backyard or basement...

Originally posted by nSmash
How about chance of winning 6/49? Can buy plane tickets to all tournaments
and build own court in backyard or basement...

true but that still won't change the chance of seeing badminton on canadian tv:o

Originally posted by cooler
true but that still won't change the chance of seeing badminton on canadian tv:o

I agree. What's nSmash's comment have to do with anything related?

Originally posted by cooler
true but that still won't change the chance of seeing badminton on canadian tv:o
Darn... I guess $30mil isn't enough to buy a TV station... :(
Originally posted by NiMa
I agree. What's nSmash's comment have to do with anything related?
Err... consolation? :p

Originally posted by nSmash
Darn... I guess $30mil isn't enough to buy a TV station... :(

I purchased a consumer-grade television broadcast station for $20 a few years ago... it only had a range of 100 feet but it still worked nonetheless. You can even choose between either channel 14 or 17! You can buy bigger kits with 2km range for around $1000 from what I remember.

Originally posted by bigredlemon
I purchased a consumer-grade television broadcast station for $20 a few years ago... it only had a range of 100 feet but it still worked nonetheless. You can even choose between either channel 14 or 17! You can buy bigger kits with 2km range for around $1000 from what I remember.
Cool... but I doubt all you fine Canadian BF'ers fancy cramming into a 2km
radius of my $1000 station... :D ... but I suppose I could buy a little satellite
to go with it with the remainder of my $30mil ;)

Seriously... I wonder if the one could simply get up and buy controlling
stake in a major television station that has access to satellite facilities
with $30mil? I'm sure there are TV CEOs who are junkies of tennis, golf,
spelling bee and dog beauty but it's just our luck that none of them
are crazy about badminton... :(

Are any of you young Canadian BF'ers out there up for the challenge of
growing up to be just that badminton TV CEO? ;)

I think if your station needs approval from the CRTC first on what kind of programming you want to provide. Those licenses themselves are cheap... a couple mil for a national license if my memory serves. Why not just plunk down a couple Gs for a streaming internet station?

That's actually what I wanted to do... i'm serving some motorcycle racing videos right now actually. Ended up using up almost 14 gigs of transfer in 3 days, so it's not going to be cheap. I'd host badminton vids too but I don't have any that's not already on the net.

Originally posted by bigredlemon
I think if your station needs approval from the CRTC first on what kind of programming you want to provide. Those licenses themselves are cheap... a couple mil for a national license if my memory serves. Why not just plunk down a couple Gs for a streaming internet station?

My idea was to acquire an existing sports station and force-feed the
public with real badminton... :) I think the station would already have
its license. Though not as easy as it sounds, if we manage to run the
station well, we'd still get income to cover royalties, copyright, etc.
I think internet streaming bleeds the pocket and if we try to get
income from it to cover operations, we might run into legal issues...
though at this time, probably not enough people here give a damn
about badminton for the broadcasters to care. Besides, if we have a
real company, we can write stuff off on our tax returns... hehe

Originally posted by nSmash
My idea was to acquire an existing sports station and force-feed the
public with real badminton... :) I think the station would already have
its license. Though not as easy as it sounds, if we manage to run the
station well, we'd still get income to cover royalties, copyright, etc.
I think internet streaming bleeds the pocket and if we try to get
income from it to cover operations, we might run into legal issues...
though at this time, probably not enough people here give a damn
about badminton for the broadcasters to care. Besides, if we have a
real company, we can write stuff off on our tax returns... hehe
I think acquiring an existing station with a channel number less than 80 soemthing would probably cost more than our measly 30 million could cover... they probably have revenues more than 30 mill a month. The cheapest method I say is to get a personal grade broadcaster (2km range is the limit imposed by CRTC i belive.) At $1000 each, we could get a thousand of those for a $1 mil. That would cover most of toronto for sure!

Originally posted by cooler
chance of seeing Elvis on the street would be higher than seeing badminton on tv.:o

Cooler, I think you are right. There are pictures of Elvis around every so often even on the high street or browsing through a music store but probably less pictures of badminton in Canada.

Originally posted by bigredlemon
I think acquiring an existing station with a channel number less than 80 soemthing would probably cost more than our measly 30 million could cover... they probably have revenues more than 30 mill a month. The cheapest method I say is to get a personal grade broadcaster (2km range is the limit imposed by CRTC i belive.) At $1000 each, we could get a thousand of those for a $1 mil. That would cover most of toronto for sure!
Well I guess we have to start somewhere... or 1000-where... haha

Originally posted by nSmash
Darn... I guess $30mil isn't enough to buy a TV station... :(

Err... consolation? :p

there is a better and cheaper route.
Give kwun 1 or so million $ and he'll set a super fast server that have the bandwidth for us to watch any tournament on tv. (remember that TV from internet site can was quashed by TV network? In our case it will be all badminton from all sources, live, tapes, etc Those TV executives won't bother us as we won't be stealing their content and they dun care about badminton anyway) . There will be money left over to buy all the old archive tapes of those rare old tournaments as well. After we popularized badminton, those sports network will beg us for licensing fee. After that we will be MAKING money. Anyone have $1 million seed money to spare (preferably in USD)?

The XD finals of the Thai Open will be shown on WTSN sometime next week (I believe that it's Tuesday at 9pm EST) and repeated a few hours after that (twice).

Originally posted by Winex West Can
The XD finals of the Thai Open will be shown on WTSN sometime next week (I believe that it's Tuesday at 9pm EST) and repeated a few hours after that (twice).


This must be a repeat cuz WTSN showed Thailand Open 2003 WS, XD, and WD prolly 4 or 5 months back.

if anyone from canada could tape that i would be eternally grateful...
g

Did anyone notice the guy playing badminton in the new Fido TV commercials? Pretty funny that they chose badminton instead of say tennis...

haha, yes i'd noticed that, though I was hoping for a little more after reading the title of your thread! but I guess badminton fanatics should be happy for any air time badminton gets, no matter how unimportant it may be!

Sportsworld on Headline Sports showed a clip of the World Championships 2003 in the Men's Double final.

The only way you could tell that he was playing badminton is the yonex raquet...that shot was only like 3 seconds long

Originally posted by valourarc
Did anyone notice the guy playing badminton in the new Fido TV commercials? Pretty funny that they chose badminton instead of say tennis...
yes, i thought it was badminton when i first saw it. maybe fido is trying to promote the sport;) :D

i was going to post about that too but u beat me to it. Fido has some great commercials and this is definetly another one of those..

did u notice that the guy in the commercial hit a decent backhand shot (not form/technical wise)..i could tell once he hit it, it went a LONG way:D :p ..hahah, just jokes

clips of the mixed final were on sportsnet. it showed how the danish player got upset at being flicked to and missing for the english to win.

Ay body knows where i can see all england
middle east are

any idea if they're going to have badminton coverage for beijing 2008 in canada? its going to suck if there isnt any.

I sure hope they will have some kind of coverage.

They didn't have it last time(2004)... I doubt very much they'll have any this time.

Unless a North American moves up in the tourney, there probably won't any substantial coverage over here.

It would be sweet if webtv is up by then and you can tune into whatever sport that you are interested in. If not in 08, then for sure 2012.