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MarcRafles
10-21-2003, 12:12 AM
Hi all, I want to know about the rule (IBF) for serving.
I served (single play), the birdie flew, touched the top of net a little (not stuck), landed on the opponent field rightly. My opponent said, my serve was false.

Is what he said true or not according to IBF's rule?

Thanks in advance.

Marc

Mikell
10-21-2003, 12:18 AM
It is a good serve!!!

MarcRafles
10-21-2003, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Mikell
It is a good serve!!!

Well, it is not the matter of good or bad :)
Is it officially allowed? or is it considered as false?

Marc

woop.
10-21-2003, 04:32 AM
Do you mean is it a legal serve? If so it certainly is. There is no way someone can claim otherwise. The shuttle can always touch the net as it crosses, it's just you and your racquet that must not.

cappy75
10-21-2003, 04:38 AM
Heh! Now if only you could repeat that serve on a fair basis, you're on your way to professional:P Service shot is valid as long as you served it right and it landed on the opponent's receiving area (service line included). As far as I am concerned, having the shot touch the net while landing right is the best short service one can do.

LazyBuddy
10-21-2003, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by MarcRafles
Hi all, I want to know about the rule (IBF) for serving.
I served (single play), the birdie flew, touched the top of net a little (not stuck), landed on the opponent field rightly. My opponent said, my serve was false.

Is what he said true or not according to IBF's rule?


It's a 100% legal serve according to the rule. Badminton is different than tennis, if such serve in tennis, it will be a fault.

Kennyb
10-21-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by MarcRafles
Hi all, I want to know about the rule (IBF) for serving.
I served (single play), the birdie flew, touched the top of net a little (not stuck), landed on the opponent field rightly. My opponent said, my serve was false.

Is what he said true or not according to IBF's rule?

Thanks in advance.

Marc

Sounds asthough your opponent doesn't really know the proper rule of serving in badminton and uses the tennis rule of serving if you ask me...

MarcRafles
10-21-2003, 09:07 AM
OK, I am sure now, that I am right and my serve is legal (and good :D). Thank you very much to all of you.
Hmm.. but how can I close this thread?

shiriblue
10-21-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by LazyBuddy
It's a 100% legal serve according to the rule. Badminton is different than tennis, if such serve in tennis, it will be a fault.

technically if it lands into the service box, you get 2 serves again, but if it lands outside the box then its a fault

Tomsk
10-21-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by MarcRafles
OK, I am sure now, that I am right and my serve is legal (and good :D). Thank you very much to all of you.
Hmm.. but how can I close this thread?

Only the moderators and admin can close a thread.

You can silince your critics with a copy of the Laws of Badminton

Download from http://www.intbadfed.org/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=31

I always keep a printed copy in my bag to settle disputes. (Except for for the two hits, one stroke is NOT a fault! ;) )

bigredlemon
10-21-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by MarcRafles
Well, it is not the matter of good or bad :)
Is it officially allowed? or is it considered as false?

Marc Umpires and refrees typically refer to an act as "good" if it is legal and "bad" if it is illegal or a fault.

digler_78
07-20-2004, 07:00 AM
I want to raise another question regarding the short backhand serve.

According to the IBF the shuttle must be struck below waist height. Can someone tell me what is classed as waist height?
I have heard people mention that "legally" waist height is the bottom point of your bottom rib (feel if your not sure where I mean!)? However, I find the IBF rules to be very vague about this and I am now somewhat confused.

Obviously if it is the higher point (the rib) then you stand to gain a slight advantage in that the shuttle can travel at a lower arc???!

Any thoughts?????????

Dill
07-20-2004, 08:48 AM
If you want to close the thread just talk about politics or religion ;)

Works every time :D

digler_78
07-20-2004, 11:15 AM
well Dill being as you seem to be the only person looking at this thread have you got any thoughts on my previously posted question??????? :confused:

Neil Nicholls
07-20-2004, 11:33 AM
According to the IBF the shuttle must be struck below waist height. Can someone tell me what is classed as waist height?

The Law regarding the waist is vague.
The dictionary definition of the waist is the area between the ribs and the hips.

I'm sure this has been discussed in other threads, and I think no conclusion was reached regarding ther waist.
It has been said, though, that service judges estimate the legal height by using the serving players elbow as a guide.
i.e. the height of the elbow when the arm is hanging down by your side.

digler_78
07-20-2004, 12:08 PM
The Law regarding the waist is vague.
The dictionary definition of the waist is the area between the ribs and the hips.

I'm sure this has been discussed in other threads, and I think no conclusion was reached regarding ther waist.
It has been said, though, that service judges estimate the legal height by using the serving players elbow as a guide.
i.e. the height of the elbow when the arm is hanging down by your side.

Thanks Neil, I struggled to find anything very relevant on other threads but then i am new to this so maybe i was looking in the wrong place!?
From what you have said though, does that mean that as long as the other serving criteria are met, i.e. head below hand, upwards motion etc that it would be hard for a judge to call a fault on a serve? :confused:

Dill
07-20-2004, 01:05 PM
The Law regarding the waist is vague.
The dictionary definition of the waist is the area between the ribs and the hips.

I'm sure this has been discussed in other threads, and I think no conclusion was reached regarding ther waist.
It has been said, though, that service judges estimate the legal height by using the serving players elbow as a guide.
i.e. the height of the elbow when the arm is hanging down by your side.

SPOT ON !!!!!

The bottom rib is classed as the waist in badminton and falls in line with the elbow.

As Neils points out you should stand and gauge where it is for you.