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Ricky 11-03-2003, 02:48 AM It's too bad the HK Open 2003 has finally passed and I felt a bit emptiness as I need to wait at least to sometime to watch great tournament as such "live" (I can't goto GuangZhou to watch China Open this year due to schedule conflict).
I would like to share something about the rackets which pros are using based on my observations in HK Open 2003 :
- Yonex is still the primary brand. In fact, while some players have logo other than Yonex printed on their strings, they are still using Yonex racket. For example, Bossen's racket has a Wilson logo printed but it is actually a Ti-10. I believe Tan Fook should use Ti-10 as well even his racket has Gosen logo printed on the string.
- MP99 and Ti-10 are still the most popular Yonex rackets being used.
- There are only a few players using AT700, e.g. Gong Rina, a women doubles player from China (can't remember who is the gal).
- Sigits and Trifius were using oval shape racket which doesn't look like Cab 30 MS (their rackets are in green color).
- I found some players using BG80 because I saw the onsite stringers have strung some rackets with BG80.
cooler 11-03-2003, 03:05 AM thanks for the observation ricky. It confirmed some of my assumptions.
Cheung 11-03-2003, 03:44 AM Sigit/trikus might be using the cab20 tour, that was green.
quite a few of the Koreans are using AT700
Lee DS is using cab21 (prev Ti10).
Peter Gade MP88
so both Lee and Yoo are using cab rackets? i wonder if Yoo has an influence on that.
Cheung 11-03-2003, 03:54 AM Lee DS looked very sharp in his q/f against JR. Never thought of him as being strong at the back but he was really hitting and driving well.
Ricky 11-03-2003, 03:55 AM Originally posted by Cheung
quite a few of the Koreans are using AT700
I can't remember exactly but it shouldn't be the case for Ra/Kim. Will goto check the video tape tonight. :)
Cheung 11-03-2003, 03:57 AM You're right, those two are stil using Ti10 (kim), MP100 (Ra - at least it looks like MP100)
Neil Nicholls 11-03-2003, 04:39 AM I thought Ra was using MP100 from what I saw of the Danish open.
It's a very distinctive shade of red.
red00ecstrat 11-03-2003, 05:07 AM my friend is a photojournalist. he told me that on the court, there were bunches of spare AT700s for the china national team but somehow they were still counting on their MP99s!
Did you manage to get your hands on those at700s? :D. If i'm not mistaken Lee Wan Wah is using mp100 with gosen strings.
cooler 11-03-2003, 12:57 PM Originally posted by ants
Did you manage to get your hands on those at700s? :D. If i'm not mistaken Lee Wan Wah is using mp100 with gosen strings.
you mean gosen logo stenciled on the string?. It is very difficult to tell what type of string just from photos or videos.
From what i know from the Malaysian coach is that even though Malaysian team is sponsored by Gosen most of them uses gosen strings and equipments , but some are still using yonex racket. Except the Hashim brothers which they are sponsored by Yonex , both of them uses all yonex stuffs.
bambini 11-04-2003, 07:28 AM Originally posted by Cheung
Sigit/trikus might be using the cab20 tour, that was green.
quite a few of the Koreans are using AT700
Lee DS is using cab21 (prev Ti10).
Peter Gade MP88 ...or a carbonex20 muscle power which is also color green.
OT23 Lok 11-04-2003, 10:27 AM Yes, you're correct, this year, just like the past, Yonex is still the major supplier of the Pro's equipment.
We've been doing the on-site string service for the World-class tournament(Grand Prix, Thomas/Uber Cup's Finals...etc.) held in HK For over 16 years. This year's HK Open, is the biggest event after the last Thomas/Uber Cup final held in HK at 96'. This year, we can observe that there're changes in the equpiment used by the Pros.
1.) Lighter rackets are being used by the top singles player. e.g. Lee Hyun II/Taufik AT700, Peter Gade MP88.
2.)MP99 is still the most wide spread racket being used, 2nd is Ti10/MP100/MP88/AT700.
3.)Thinner guage strings i.e. BG80/Ti68/BG85/BG66 got a bigger share of the total comsumption of racket strings used in this tournament, although BG65 still got over 40% of total strings consumption.
4.)Higher tension(compared with the 80's/90's), average over 29lbs, up to 34lbs for Denmark's Eriksen.
The game has change a lot from the mid-90's, and of course, it's more and more exciting the game now playing!!!
Anything questions?
I think thinner strings are used often nowadays because of the feel. Shots need to be near perfect and more precise. Since the game is getting faster and harder now.
Some players say that they use bg65 because it is more durable. Well if i'm a sponsored player and i'm supplied with equipments.. i don't go for the durable.. will go for the best.
Cheung 11-04-2003, 06:58 PM Originally posted by bambini
...or a carbonex20 muscle power which is also color green. Haven't seen that one yet. Then again, haven't been round to the shops for a while:p
OT23 Lok, nice to see you back!
Thanks for that information!
Do you think you are much busier than before because the thinner strings break more quickly? For instance, I saw Lee DS of Korea break three racquet strings in one match (s/final). And I saw all three stringers so pressured, it was difficult for them to even take time out for toilet breaks or get some food.
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Do you think you are much busier than before because the thinner strings break more quickly? For instance, I saw Lee DS of Korea break three racquet strings in one match (s/final). And I saw all three stringers so pressured, it was difficult for them to even take time out for toilet breaks or get some food. [/B][/QUOTE]
I guess yonex have to get more stringers. :)
double 11-04-2003, 07:50 PM Hi!
Several questions:
-What tension/string is Peter using for MP88? He used to high tension, just wonder how high tension can MP88 stand for?
-And for AT700, can it stand for 30lbs?
-Which racket is Sigit using? Is it CAB20MS? What's tension and string? I'd strung CAB20MS for 28lbs and it's broken!
Thank you very much!!!
Originally posted by OT23 Lok
Yes, you're correct, this year, just like the past, Yonex is still the major supplier of the Pro's equipment.
We've been doing the on-site string service for the World-class tournament(Grand Prix, Thomas/Uber Cup's Finals...etc.) held in HK For over 16 years. This year's HK Open, is the biggest event after the last Thomas/Uber Cup final held in HK at 96'. This year, we can observe that there're changes in the equpiment used by the Pros.
1.) Lighter rackets are being used by the top singles player. e.g. Lee Hyun II/Taufik AT700, Peter Gade MP88.
2.)MP99 is still the most wide spread racket being used, 2nd is Ti10/MP100/MP88/AT700.
3.)Thinner guage strings i.e. BG80/Ti68/BG85/BG66 got a bigger share of the total comsumption of racket strings used in this tournament, although BG65 still got over 40% of total strings consumption.
4.)Higher tension(compared with the 80's/90's), average over 29lbs, up to 34lbs for Denmark's Eriksen.
The game has change a lot from the mid-90's, and of course, it's more and more exciting the game now playing!!!
Anything questions?
Pete LSD 11-04-2003, 08:04 PM Mr. Lok,
Could you give us your insights in stringing Jens Eriksen's racquet? Did you just go ahead without the slightest thought of breaking it?
Originally posted by OT23 Lok
4.)Higher tension(compared with the 80's/90's), average over 29lbs, up to 34lbs for Denmark's Eriksen.
Anything questions?
Ricky 11-04-2003, 09:33 PM Originally posted by OT23 Lok
Yes, you're correct, this year, just like the past, Yonex is still the major supplier of the Pro's equipment.
We've been doing the on-site string service for the World-class tournament(Grand Prix, Thomas/Uber Cup's Finals...etc.) held in HK For over 16 years. This year's HK Open, is the biggest event after the last Thomas/Uber Cup final held in HK at 96'. This year, we can observe that there're changes in the equpiment used by the Pros.
1.) Lighter rackets are being used by the top singles player. e.g. Lee Hyun II/Taufik AT700, Peter Gade MP88.
2.)MP99 is still the most wide spread racket being used, 2nd is Ti10/MP100/MP88/AT700.
3.)Thinner guage strings i.e. BG80/Ti68/BG85/BG66 got a bigger share of the total comsumption of racket strings used in this tournament, although BG65 still got over 40% of total strings consumption.
4.)Higher tension(compared with the 80's/90's), average over 29lbs, up to 34lbs for Denmark's Eriksen.
The game has change a lot from the mid-90's, and of course, it's more and more exciting the game now playing!!!
Anything questions?
How do you know which string and tension are used by each player ? Do you have a list of records of each player's preference ? Since I found that a racket was given to your team when the string was broken during a game, and you guys seemed know what to do without talking to them.
OT23 Lok 11-04-2003, 09:36 PM Peter Gade is using 30lbs/BG80 on his MP88, and MP88 can stand for really high tension, as i can remember, 32lbs and can be higher.
About Armotec 700, it's really amazing! Candra is using it at 32lbs, and Taufik is using 32 lbs on their AT700!! And all Taufik's rackets are 4U!! 32lbs/BG66!
Sigit and his partner is using Cab 20 Tour this time, 30lbs with Ti68.
About stringing those high tension rackets, we've never thought of breaking it, since we're using the newest machine with some customed modified parts to protect the rackets well, and we find that's really successful, since we string a Carlton AS-1 at 32lbs!Some Wilson, Black Knight and Babolat rackets at 29-32 lbs and never break ONE!
However, for me, i just scare of the string.... you can try if you string a BG80 at 34lbs...hear the sound of the string.....she's dying and screaming...haha.
OT23 Lok 11-04-2003, 09:52 PM Hi, Cheung,
I think you know how heavy the work load for us this year, we use 3 machines on-site and 3 others at my shops, but we still have to work until the last day, the last match...
You're correct, the thinner guage strings make us string more rackets than before. In the past, players only use BG65, but now BG65 got only 40-50% of total usuage.
You can see Lin Dan breaks 3 rackets(BG66) in the finals, Lee DS breaks over 10 rackets(BG80) in the last 2 days......and that keep us working...working...working...
Originally posted by OT23 Lok
Hi, Cheung,
I think you know how heavy the work load for us this year, we use 3 machines on-site and 3 others at my shops, but we still have to work until the last day, the last match...
You're correct, the thinner guage strings make us string more rackets than before. In the past, players only use BG65, but now BG65 got only 40-50% of total usuage.
You can see Lin Dan breaks 3 rackets(BG66) in the finals, Lee DS breaks over 10 rackets(BG80) in the last 2 days......and that keep us working...working...working...
Broke 10 rackets? Or 10 strings snapped? He must hit the racket hard. You must be a good stringer mr lok. A do agree with you that At700 is amazing. i have a 4U G5 and strung it once at 30lbs with bg68ti. Was abit worried.. but then the racket really durable. Even few clashes.. it didn't break! But had few chips. Now i strung it back at 28lbs which is my preferred tension.
Mr Lok,
How do you string their rackets? Do they prefer 4 knots or 2 knots at their desired tension?
cooler 11-04-2003, 10:52 PM hello ot23 Lok from canada, it's good that your company ;) was chosen to string for the HK open. Your insight on what pros use is very enlighting. It helps to show that stringing is like badminton, technique first. I havent tried bg66 at 32 lb but i can feel the string screaming at that tension. At that tension, the racket should last no more than one game for those pros. Hope your business continue to do well.
Pete LSD 11-04-2003, 11:09 PM Mr. Lok,
If I recall from your previous posts correctly, a request for 32 lbs will be strung to 32 lbs for all main strings and 30 lbs for all cross strings. Please confirm. We are a bunch of die-hard baddie fanatics here. And which stringing machines are you using and what kind of modifications did you put into those machines? Thanks for your answers so far.
double 11-04-2003, 11:35 PM Hi,
Thank you very much for your information.
Are you using YY stringing machine? which model is it?
And what kind of customed modification to protect the rackets??? :p
Thanks a lot!!!
Originally posted by OT23 Lok
Peter Gade is using 30lbs/BG80 on his MP88, and MP88 can stand for really high tension, as i can remember, 32lbs and can be higher.
About Armotec 700, it's really amazing! Candra is using it at 32lbs, and Taufik is using 32 lbs on their AT700!! And all Taufik's rackets are 4U!! 32lbs/BG66!
Sigit and his partner is using Cab 20 Tour this time, 30lbs with Ti68.
About stringing those high tension rackets, we've never thought of breaking it, since we're using the newest machine with some customed modified parts to protect the rackets well, and we find that's really successful, since we string a Carlton AS-1 at 32lbs!Some Wilson, Black Knight and Babolat rackets at 29-32 lbs and never break ONE!
However, for me, i just scare of the string.... you can try if you string a BG80 at 34lbs...hear the sound of the string.....she's dying and screaming...haha.
Cheung 11-04-2003, 11:43 PM Originally posted by ants
Broke 10 rackets? Or 10 strings snapped? Broke the strings:)
Yonex are going to have to put more R & D into strings these next few years.
timeless 11-04-2003, 11:44 PM Double, did you even read the other posts. PeteLSD posted the exact same questions just above your post :rolleyes:.
cooler 11-05-2003, 12:59 PM Originally posted by cooler
hello ot23 Lok from canada, it's good that your company ;) was chosen to string for the HK open. Your insight on what pros use is very enlighting. It helps to show that stringing is like badminton, technique first. I havent tried bg66 at 32 lb but i can feel the string screaming at that tension. At that tension, the racket should last no more than one game for those pros. Hope your business continue to do well.
when i said the racket not lasting more than one game, i really meant the bg66 string.
since we string a Carlton AS-1 at 32lbs!
OT23 Lok
What string did you use, when I had mine strung at 40lbs it was BG65!!
I do realised that Yonex strings nowadays break alot. Another alternative strings i use is Gosen strings.
cooler 11-05-2003, 08:38 PM Originally posted by ants
I do realised that Yonex strings nowadays break alot. Another alternative strings i use is Gosen strings.
yes, when 80% (??) of players uses yonex at super high tension and thin string.
Even if u meant not pro players, majority of us uses yonex string.
let assume yonex sold 1000 units of string breaking at 10% rate = 100 breakage
brand x sold 200 units of string breaking at 30% rate = 60 breakage
Number wise yes, yonex breaks more string,
Percentage wise no. So are you gonna use brand x string??
Originally posted by cooler
yes, when 80% (??) of players uses yonex at super high tension and thin string.
Even if u meant not pro players, majority of us uses yonex string.
let assume yonex sold 1000 units of string breaking at 10% rate = 100 breakage
brand x sold 200 units of string breaking at 30% rate = 60 breakage
Number wise yes, yonex breaks more string,
Percentage wise no. So are you gonna use brand x string??
If based on your calculation. Of coz Yonex is still much better than the brand x string.
:)
cooler 11-05-2003, 08:49 PM that is why one have to be careful when one hear things without the story behind it
At least for me , Yonex strings breaks more often than Gosen strings. But i do still use Yonex strings due to its performance even though its not as durable. Anyway i can still afford to buy the strings.
cooler 11-05-2003, 09:03 PM which yonex string? tension? 2 or 4 points?
which gosen string? " "
OT23 Lok 11-05-2003, 09:04 PM No, The Yonex stringing machine is too out-dated, we simply ordered a couple of Taiwan made six-point protection machine, and cover up with the Yonex logo on it. Then, about the modification? We replaced some parts that is custom made, or replace some parts that is not too good from the original, and all these modification is just help us to do things better, faster.
We will only string our rackets in 4 knots, and the method and tension combination? haha, sorry, it's a secret.
Originally posted by cooler
which yonex string? tension? 2 or 4 points?
which gosen string? " "
Yonex bg68ti and Gosen Pro 66. My tension is between 28 to 30lbs. i have few strung 2 points and some 4points. :)
Originally posted by OT23 Lok
No, The Yonex stringing machine is too out-dated, we simply ordered a couple of Taiwan made six-point protection machine, and cover up with the Yonex logo on it. Then, about the modification? We replaced some parts that is custom made, or replace some parts that is not too good from the original, and all these modification is just help us to do things better, faster.
We will only string our rackets in 4 knots, and the method and tension combination? haha, sorry, it's a secret.
How much does those machine cost? Come on.. share with us your techniques.
OT23 Lok 11-05-2003, 09:33 PM That machine will cost you around HK$ 6500-$6800, excluding the custom parts, since all of the metal parts are molded and made by one of our friend, he's an engineerer at a factory.
Ricky 11-05-2003, 09:37 PM Originally posted by OT23 Lok
No, The Yonex stringing machine is too out-dated, we simply ordered a couple of Taiwan made six-point protection machine, and cover up with the Yonex logo on it. Then, about the modification? We replaced some parts that is custom made, or replace some parts that is not too good from the original, and all these modification is just help us to do things better, faster.
We will only string our rackets in 4 knots, and the method and tension combination? haha, sorry, it's a secret.
Will you use the same machine and stringing method if I come to your shop to string my rackets ?
OT23 Lok 11-05-2003, 09:56 PM Haha, talk about those techniques? Or let us share some memorable moment for me in this tournament, ok?
Kim Dong Moon(KOR), is my idol. we start to do the stringing service for him whenever he plays at HK since the early 90's, when he's still a rookie, at that day, he's using the Cab-21(BG 65/30lbs). I admire him so much just because he plays so well, and he's a gentlmen, although he's a bit "cool".
You know what, at the beginning of this tournament, 27/10, he came to us as usual to replace all of his racket strings to prepare for the tough matches, at that day, he strings his racket at 32lbs/BG80. He came back to us after his first day practice, he's not too satisfy with the tension, too high.
We do it lower at the second day, 30lbs/BG80. No!
Lower....28lbs....still too high...
It's really sad that he lost in the Doubles...After that, he came to me and talk to me if i can do some other try to make the string tension lower...
OK! 27lbs, with the crosses at 21lbs!!! That day, is the semi-finals of the Mixed-Doubles.
"Can it be Lower?!" Kim said after the victory.
"Sure!" I cut those strings and string 2 rackets for him with 25lbs finally, just 15 minutes from the finals begins.
At that moment, I can see the smile on his face, and i know, that's the perfect tension for him!
I'm really happy with that! Since he's my idol, I just want to serve him the best. (We do have the same attitude towards every player, haha!)
Finally, he wins! Although he breaks one of the racket i just strung.
And you know what?! The happiest moment for me is, After the ceremony, He came to me and say : "Thank you!"
Wow! You know how touching at the moment is?!
I really feel great at that moment, and I'll keep on supporting him~!(I'm only another Badminton Fans like you guys anyway~)
Tat,
that's a great story! thanks for sharing. do you have other stringing stories to tell us?
I like KimDM a lot too, he is one of my favorite mixed player.
another question, and i always wonder about this.
why is it that the pros choose to have their racket strung at the tournament? why don't they string them at home and then bring the strung racket to the tournament? is there advantage to stringing the racket at the tournament location?
Originally posted by kwun
another question, and i always wonder about this.
why is it that the pros choose to have their racket strung at the tournament? why don't they string them at home and then bring the strung racket to the tournament? is there advantage to stringing the racket at the tournament location?
Before Mr Lok answers your question. Based on my opinion.. the tension is still fresh if its strung at the tournament site at the same time. And they can change the tension that they like.
Very nice moment for you mr Lok. Yup.. thats what you get for giving the best service. Sometimes its really rewarding if people recognise your effort and providing them your best service. I can imagine your experience and knowledge in stringing , 27lbs main and 21 cross?!! that must be very good. It will take me ages to get to your stage. You might have strung thousands of rackets already.
Can you imagine how many strings can be consume in one big tournament? If the player don't like the tension, they can change whatever they want.
cooler 11-06-2003, 12:37 AM Originally posted by ants
Yonex bg68ti and Gosen Pro 66. My tension is between 28 to 30lbs. i have few strung 2 points and some 4points. :)
LOL, bingo, so here goes.
when i saw the composition of 68ti, i avoided it, never use or try 68ti yet. I wrote this twice before in BF. At 28 to 30+ lbs, any thin string required above quality stringing technique(s). I use bg80, at ~25lbs, lol, how coincidence with KDM's :)
I also string for a yonex sponsored player. He has yet steer away from my recommendation of bg80 and ~25lbs. Yes, he tried bg85 and 68ti but came back to my recommendation after 1 try each.
I bot whole bunch of bg80 from mr lok. ;) last year. On the topic, Mr lok's service was great and he took effort to reduce my shipping costs.
On the topic of molding, i wanted a custom mold the day i got my stringing machine. It cost a lot because one only custom built and my stringing volume aint high so i dropped that idea. I then plan out to make some mold(s) myself but i learned that none of my clients ask for tension >28 lbs so i dropped that idea too. Now i relies on my special tool and my stringing technique for <28 lbs jobbies. I measure each racket pre and post stringing. Variation is 0 to 0.5mm of width so i'm happy with my method. I feel my system can do 34lbs without a mold. I do need a mold for 37+. It's not hard to make i think for a home version.
Originally posted by cooler
LOL, bingo, so here goes.
when i saw the composition of 68ti, i avoided it, never use or try 68ti yet. I wrote this twice before in BF. At 28 to 30+ lbs, any thin string required above quality stringing technique(s). I use bg80, at ~25lbs, lol, how coincidence with KDM's :)
I also string for a yonex sponsored player. He has yet steer away from my recommendation of bg80 and ~25lbs. Yes, he tried bg85 and 68ti but came back to my recommendation after 1 try each.
I understand that thin string break easily.. but suprisingly Gosen Pro 66 withstand longer than BG68ti. Pro66 is 0.66mm compare to 68ti which is 0.68mm. The composition in Gosen pro66 sounds simple , Special Nylon Multifilament , high strength Monomultifilament and Special Blended Resin.
cooler 11-06-2003, 03:51 AM i can't find any gosen pro 66 online. what does the package say exactly?
someone gave me some gosen gs-88 and it is 0.66mm. Don't assume pro 66 is 0.66mm.
timeless 11-06-2003, 03:52 AM Wow I really enjoyed that KDM story as well :D. Really is touching!
As for why players choose to have their racquets strung at the tournament site, I would venture to guess this:
1. String tension is fresh. Heck, some professional tennis players open up a brand new racquet for every game.
2. Factors that affect string tension such as stringer, temperature, etc. are constant at the tournament. They won't change and affect the tension as they would while travelling from home to the tournament.
3. If the strings happen to snap, which they almost undoubtedly will, then the person who strung the racquets is readily available. You don't have to worry about giving your racquets to someone else and worry about the tension being different from the original.
4. It's free and it's the cool thing to do? Hell, KDM, Peter Gade, and everyone else is getting their racquets restrung, so I might as well too! Hahaha :D just kidding.
Here is the picture i scanned from the package cooler. :)
OT23 Lok 11-06-2003, 07:27 AM Yes, Ants and timeless, you're correct, I think those player need their racket string to be "fresh". Although, as i know, most of the Indonesian player got their racket re-strung before they take off from their country, I strung 16 pcs of AT700 for Taufik this time, and most of the other indonesian player's too.
They need their racket to stay "in-shape" all the time, and as i know, they will cut all of their racket strings again at the next tournament and get re-string again.
They're sponsored, anyway...ha.
OT23 Lok 11-06-2003, 07:29 AM Ricky,
One of the new machine we used at the Hong Kong Open has replaced the old one we use at the shop now, so....
haha...
Cheung 11-06-2003, 07:30 AM I wish I was good enough to be sponsored:(
Thanks for sharing with us that story about KDM. Heck, it might mean nothing to him but a lot to us fanatics. He must think we are really wierd.
OT23 Lok 11-06-2003, 07:42 AM Kim's story is the most memorable moment for me in this event, however, there's one more story that i feel really sorry ...
At the last day of the HK Open, Taufik came to me in the afternnoon ,in his hand, he's holding 2 new AT700 and asked for re-string... however, we're told not to receive any more rackets except those finalists and we still have 60+ un-strung rackets to be finish before the matches end....so, i rejected his request...and at the same time, Peter Gade came to me...with "ALL" 12pcs of his MP88....
You know what?! I rejected him also.
HAHA!!! How LUCKY I am! I rejected 2 of the world's BEST player's request at the same time! And my friend, a photojournalist, took a picture of that moment!!!!! I really look forward to see that photo!
HAHAHAHA!!!!
but actually i feel really sorry about that...
OT23 Lok 11-06-2003, 07:51 AM Cheung, you're right! I'm just another Badminton Fan, like you, like everyone here.
At the end of the day, I took a picture with Kim, that's the only picture i took with a player, after all these years service on-court.
Let us share the moment.
Spyboy 11-06-2003, 08:21 AM Mr. Lok, When the players ask for a tension of say 30lbs., do you string that tension for both mains and crosses or do you string them differently? Nice photo by the way!
OT23 Lok 11-06-2003, 08:51 AM Well, Spyboy,
It's all depends on the players will and the racket shape i.e. oval shape, isometric, MP...etc.
As I posted before,
I tried even 27/20 for Kim Dong Moon's racket. So, It's all "depends".
Spyboy 11-06-2003, 09:59 AM Mr. Lok, I'm really intrigued. Could you elaborate the bit about the shape of the frames ie, oval, iso, mp in relation to the tension employed. It would be interesting to get your take on how the different headshapes respond to the stringing. At the All England the stringers were saying that the oval shaped rackets withstood higher tensions without caving in. What is your experience?
cooler 11-06-2003, 10:46 AM with a mold, it doesnt matter.
What you all read here also backs up my point debunking the theory that cross must =2lbs+main, which i have trying to dispel long ago.
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RE: String: Main/Cross Tension
As a non Yonex certified stringer, i say using higher cross tension than main is a poor man way to 'partially' re-shaping a racket. There are so many racket types of different shapes and materials, how do you know what is the optimum main to cross tension ratio for each racket? Yonex and carlton alike didn't conduct any experiment on this. Who is to say 2 lbs difference is a right combination? On some racket i've strung in the 27 to 30 lbs range, yonex stringing procedure don't apply anymore.
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cooler 11-06-2003, 11:06 AM thanks for the pic ants. gosen pro66 must be recent product. I assume MAL gets the latest gosen stuffs since MAL team is sponsored by gosen.
Originally posted by cooler
thanks for the pic ants. gosen pro66 must be recent product. I assume MAL gets the latest gosen stuffs since MAL team is sponsored by gosen.
Yeah , i was suprised to get the strings from my stringer who was the stringers for the Msian Team. I did not manage to find it on the internet as well. I tought is was a fake string until i saw him strung one of wong choon han's racket with pro66 in front of me.
cooler 11-06-2003, 12:16 PM it could be re-packaged gosen gs-88. what color is the pro66 string?
sorry for the OT, i'll keep it really short
They have white , royal blue , red... so far these are the colors i saw. I think they also have yellow. Btw Yonex strings also have new pakaging. But the names of the strings remain the same.
Pete LSD 12-14-2003, 06:03 AM Ants,
Would it be possible to ask your stringer how he strung the racquets for the M'sian Team? And what type of machine did he use? For example, main to cross ratio . . . proportional stringing or not . . . etc. Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by ants
Yeah , i was suprised to get the strings from my stringer who was the stringers for the Msian Team. I did not manage to find it on the internet as well. I tought is was a fake string until i saw him strung one of wong choon han's racket with pro66 in front of me.
Originally posted by Pete LSD
Ants,
Would it be possible to ask your stringer how he strung the racquets for the M'sian Team? And what type of machine did he use? For example, main to cross ratio . . . proportional stringing or not . . . etc. Thanks in advance.
He uses 6 point machine. A regular machine that we use. I don't know what brand is the machine coz i don't take notice of it. ( Taiwan Made ). I will ask him when i see him in January. At the moment i'm out of the country. From what i know and see him strung some rackets. He have different variation of stringing. There is once he strung main 26 cross 30lbs. It depends on the players preference. Will get back to you on that when i see him.
Pete LSD 12-15-2003, 01:24 AM Many Thanks!
26 lbs main X 30 lbs cross!!! The racquet frame must had a major distortion or something after the main strings were done. Or is it the player's preference?
Originally posted by ants
He uses 6 point machine. A regular machine that we use. I don't know what brand is the machine coz i don't take notice of it. ( Taiwan Made ). I will ask him when i see him in January. At the moment i'm out of the country. From what i know and see him strung some rackets. He have different variation of stringing. There is once he strung main 26 cross 30lbs. It depends on the players preference. Will get back to you on that when i see him.
Originally posted by Pete LSD
Many Thanks!
26 lbs main X 30 lbs cross!!! The racquet frame must had a major distortion or something after the main strings were done. Or is it the player's preference?
That was what i think of when i see him strung it at that tension. But after he finished doing it. The racket seems normal to me. String was gosen pro66. .66mm
And the racket was Gosen Aermet 3500. It was the player's preference. I can't remember who was it. It was long ago.
Pete LSD 12-15-2003, 08:14 PM The 30 lbs on the cross, as instructed by the player, would narrowed the the frame cross wise and lengthened main wise. Maybe the player wanted a sweetspot higher up or something. I still think it's very bad for the racquet.
Originally posted by ants
That was what i think of when i see him strung it at that tension. But after he finished doing it. The racket seems normal to me. String was gosen pro66. .66mm
And the racket was Gosen Aermet 3500. It was the player's preference. I can't remember who was it. It was long ago.
Originally posted by Pete LSD
The 30 lbs on the cross, as instructed by the player, would narrowed the the frame cross wise and lengthened main wise. Maybe the player wanted a sweetspot higher up or something. I still think it's very bad for the racquet.
Yeah the racket did look abit narrow. Anyway it was the players preference. They are sponsored anyway.
Pete LSD 12-15-2003, 10:37 PM :) Man, I wish I am sponsored! I love to try out 26 X 30 lbs with the Pro-66 string.
Originally posted by ants
Yeah the racket did look abit narrow. Anyway it was the players preference. They are sponsored anyway.
Pete LSD 03-01-2004, 05:02 AM Anyone know the grip sizes the pros are using?
Originally posted by Pete LSD
Anyone know the grip sizes the pros are using?
Most of them uses G4 or G5. And also they took off the original grip. Grip on wood ( some of the pros ). I think Peter Gade uses thicker grip.
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