View Full Version : Racquet guide.... Experts Please Comment
fhchiang 11-12-2003, 06:12 AM ..hmm...
currently i'm using Ti-10....
well.. Ti-10 Gives Decent Power... But... very Retarded In Defense...
so.. i'm looking for A Racquet which can produce Decent Power(doesn't need to exceed Ti-10.. just aroudn there) But At The same Time, Very Responsive and Very Good In Denfense......
can anyone recommend?
Pecheur 11-12-2003, 06:48 AM Please read this thread: http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8426&highlight=ultimate+AND+question
These threads are really beginning to get irritating.
fhchiang 11-12-2003, 07:06 AM ok sorry...
I play 4 times A Week.. 2 hours each session...
I'm An Aggresive Smasher.... but i find that my defnese are bad... so i need a more responsive racquet in defense..
I don't care bout durability... my main concern is performance.....
budget... ermm.... ..Below RM 250...(well in malaysia.... with rm250.. u can get a good racquet if you know hwo to bargain)
unregistered 11-12-2003, 07:38 AM im using the cab 20 muscle.. u can try it.. although the smash is 1/2 to 3/4 of ti-10 smash its manevurability is good and for punching the shuttle.
I know it may be discontinued by the Swing Power's are good because you have 4 different flex's on the shaft so you should be able to find the correct one for you. The general idea is the more flexable the shaft the better the racket is for defense
Ricky 11-12-2003, 09:19 AM MP99 !
LazyBuddy 11-12-2003, 12:07 PM I think the term "bad defense" is way too general:
1. Bad serve receiving?
2. Bad clear (not deep enough)?
3. Slow reaction, especially at net?
4. Slow wrist movement (weak wrist, heavy racket ,etc)
... etc.
Also, if u think ur skill is to a certain level, but just want to boost up the swing speed (more like #4 above), that's 1 issue. However, if u talking about things like "lack of defense sense", then, #1 issue is to train and racket won't make too much difference in this case.
fhchiang 11-12-2003, 08:14 PM erm....
slow reaction especially at net.....
that's a skills issue. the racket won't make a difference at all. zero.
if you spend US$100+ on a new racket thinking that will transform your game, i am afraid i can pretty much tell you now that you will be disappointed and wasting your money.
Pete LSD 11-12-2003, 09:09 PM It's your racquet skill and fitness level that will make a major difference, not the racquet.
Ricky 11-12-2003, 09:27 PM I agree that "slow reaction especially at net" is a skills issue (I think it is more related to the speed of reaction and footwork, rather than racket skills), but head light or balance rackets can definitely improve defense over head heavy rackets like Ti-10 or AT700, e.g. return smashes.
unregistered 11-12-2003, 11:45 PM cab 20 muscle and the cab 20 series are the best for challenging by the net... very accurate..
cappy75 11-13-2003, 01:46 AM IMHO, CAB 20MS is pretty strong defensively even with the 2U version. It definitely helps to have a balanced racquet when defending the net. However, for those who know how to grip a racquet appropriately in different game situations, it matters less even though using a headlight/ lighter racquet is a bonus in net plays. I usually choke up the handle whenever I am at the front, so even a head heavy racquet won't feel as cumbersome. Afterall, there's a reason why head-heavy AT-series racquets have a broader cap than other racquets.
Bad Addict 11-15-2003, 09:35 AM Normally I just use the wrist to do defensive play, a head heavy racket would be an advantage as it can be use to maneuvers the flight path of shuttle more easily and prove to be more stable in handling those hard smashes.
fhchiang 11-15-2003, 10:06 AM as for now.. i think my wrist is still not strong enough.. and the head heaviness slows down my reaction.... .
since i mostly play doubles.... reaction must be fast cause doubles is VERY explosive...
wilfredlgf 11-15-2003, 11:02 AM Originally posted by fhchiang
as for now.. i think my wrist is still not strong enough.. and the head heaviness slows down my reaction.... .
since i mostly play doubles.... reaction must be fast cause doubles is VERY explosive...
Try to do grip switching up and down the handle ala Candra or Sigit. Hold up closer to the cone when closer to the net, further back when closer to the baseline. This is how I got used to my own Ti-10 and it works - I play as well in my Ti-10 as I was with my Cab 20, with more power coming from the racquet. That, I can say is benefit from a better racquet, but I still say that I benefited the most from a change of grip style to suit my game plan.
The Ti-10 is hard to get used to but you have to start to unlearn all that muscle memory that you have from using other racquets. Other problems may lie from your technique? As far as I know, I have begun to learn the finer art of hitting the shuttle only of this year and I began to believe that the racquet really doesn't make any difference. When I have slowly refined my hitting technique, I have begun to actually lost that... 'dependance' on hardware to play well, almost a feeling of freedom to actually switch racquets and do good using any of them although less than ideal compared to using my main racquet.
Head heavy or slow reflex? Grip style, hitting technique. I had the very same problem as you did but I learn to get over it by fixing the mistakes with my strokes and technique while adjusting to it.
Sure is cheaper than splashing hundreds to by a new racquet only to find it not fitting my style.
Cheung 11-15-2003, 11:06 AM wilfred is now the 4th person to have written it's related to the skills, not the racquet;)
Ricky 11-15-2003, 11:19 PM While I agree to all you guys that it is skills issue, but I also don't see any problem for someone to switch from Ti-10 to a more defensive racket.
There is no doubt everything are skills related issue - if we play as well as Kim/JR/Sigit ..., they can have good defense even with squash racket ! However, for intermediate level players whose don't have strong enough wrist, forearm and the right skills on using the fingers, using a racket light MP9x can definitely have some advantages over rackets like Ti-10.
For me, I use heavy racket (I used 2U head heavy rackets before and switched to the 160g training racket recently) in training to develop my skills and power, but in doubles, I would always switch to my MP90 3U which gives the best performance.
Based on my experience, there is significant differences b/w 2U Ti-10 and 3U MP99.
p.s. However, as I said before, slow reaction towards the net is something not related to racket at all. I just want to emphasis the point that changing racket can make difference in defense.
Bad Addict 11-16-2003, 09:44 AM This 1 should be the 1 4 u, try 1 and c whether it fits or not?
fhchiang 11-19-2003, 08:06 AM hmmm.. i've added a layer of overgrip to bring the balance to 275mm...from 290mm....
will this make the racquet response faster?
ynexfan2003 11-19-2003, 09:33 AM Originally posted by fhchiang
hmmm.. i've added a layer of overgrip to bring the balance to 275mm...from 290mm....
will this make the racquet response faster?
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LazyBuddy 11-19-2003, 10:05 AM Originally posted by Ricky
While I agree to all you guys that it is skills issue, but I also don't see any problem for someone to switch from Ti-10 to a more defensive racket.
There is no doubt everything are skills related issue - if we play as well as Kim/JR/Sigit ..., they can have good defense even with squash racket ! However, for intermediate level players whose don't have strong enough wrist, forearm and the right skills on using the fingers, using a racket light MP9x can definitely have some advantages over rackets like Ti-10.
I think it's really down to the "degree".
I totally agree with your point of view for the "improvement". Certainly, for us club lvl players (most of us here), a "suitable" racket will give better performance, higher confidence, well lower the chance of injury due to lack to speed / strength. However, all such improvement should be based on the correct tech. and enough experience first. Such ideas like "getting an expensive racket will boost up my skill lvl" is the ones I am arguing about.
Same thing like, a more expensive car might make u feel more comfortable and safer while driving, but it certainly won't improve ur driving skill and make u a NASCAR champion.
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