View Full Version : Copenhagen Masters 2003...


kwun
11-19-2003, 04:33 AM
are the list of invitation announced yet?

if not, anybody care to make a guess? :)

Neil Nicholls
11-19-2003, 06:27 AM
I couldn't find much on the badminton.dk website other than ticket sales and tournament history and stuff

Copenhagen Masters (http://www.badminton.dk/default.asp?pageid=372)

Mag
11-19-2003, 07:04 AM
No, nothing's made public yet.

Let's look at last year's tournament:

MS:
Wong Choong Hann
Lee Hyun Il
Peter Gade
Peter Rasmussen
Sony Dwi Kuncoro
Chen Jin

WS:
Camilla Martin
Judith Meulendijks
Pi Hong Yan
Zhang Ning
Mia Audina
Jun Jae Youn

MD:
Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard
Chan Chong Ming/Chew Choon Eng
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
Lee Dong Soo/Yoo Yang Sung
Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen
Sigit Budiarto/Candra Wijaya

Finals:
Peter Gade, DEN - Peter Rasmussen, DEN 15/10, 15/5
Zhang Ning, CHN - Camilla Martin, DEN 11/4, 11/5
Sigit Budiarto/Candra Wijaya, INA - Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard, DEN 15/9, 15/8

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Since it's an invitational tournament, the Danish participants ought to be:
Gade, Jonassen, Camilla, JR/Lars, Eriksen/Lundgaard.

Then they basically try to attract some "interesting" or "hot" players, rather than just go by world ranking. It's been a tough season, as everybody's been gearing up for the Olympics. The Masters don't give any ranking or qualification points, so I suspect the field could be weaker than normal this year. The organizers will see a lot of invited players declining, and they'll be forced to go for second or even third choices.

In any case, I'm going to be there this year. :D
Does anybody want to meet up?

Johnny
11-21-2003, 06:25 AM
MS:
Peter Gade
Kenneth Jonassen
Wong Choong Hann
M. Roslin Hashim
Taufik Hidayat

LS:
Camilla Martin
Tine Rasmussen
Mia Audina
Pi Hongyan
Seo Yoon Hee

MD:
Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen
Martin Lundgaard/Jens Eriksen
Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
Halim Hadyanto/Candra Wijaya
Yim Bang Eun/Kim Yong Hyun
Nathan Robertson/Anthony Clark

Sorry if some of the names are misspelled, I took the information directly from a Danish newspaper.
Here's the link: In danish (http://www.bt.dk/sport/andensport/artikel:aid=233990/)

As you can see, they still have to find one MS player and one LS player. The LS player will be from China, don't know about the MS player, but if they can get one of the strong Chinese players, I am sure that's what they will do.

SmartCivet
11-21-2003, 11:20 AM
I wonder if the players can get ranking points in the Masters!

kwun
11-21-2003, 01:06 PM
eh? no chinese? that's unusual.

the Masters don't have ranking points.

Han
11-23-2003, 02:27 PM
Wonder why Chinese chose not to participate, I think Chen Hong or Chen Yu should be a good candidates for this event. Why Roslin Hashim? I rather pick Lee Chong Wei or Hafiz or even Boonsak P.
I guess it's just not up to us, the real fan. IBF should consider the All-Star for badminton, East vs West like baseball, basketball...
May be in my dream ...

Morten
11-24-2003, 09:04 AM
the chinese single players have been found. In MS Chen yu will participate and in WS it will be Xie Xinfang. got the information from www.badminton.dk

Johnny
11-24-2003, 12:24 PM
You'll find the groups and timetable
here (http://dbf.dansk-badminton.dk/dbf/Turnering2003-2004/Masters/Spilprog.htm)

MS group one: Gade, Taufik and Wong :eek: Interesting, to say the least...

kwun
11-24-2003, 12:26 PM
ah.... Gade will be in home ground, and also without the darn wind in the stadium. this will be a more accurate gauge of how well he has recovered.

good choice for Chen Yu and Xie. both needs more experience.

ants
11-24-2003, 12:50 PM
My predictions


MS : Wong Choon Han or Peter Gade

WS : Camilla Martin

MD : This one is hard... Close fight between LARS/ JR and CHOONG/ LEE

seven
11-24-2003, 01:10 PM
don't forget Candra and Halim...

kwun
11-24-2003, 01:42 PM
hmm.. predictions..

MS : Gade vs. Chen Yu - winner Gade
WS: Martin vs. Xie - winner Xie
MD: JR/LP vs. Choong/Lee - winner JR/LP

Morten
11-24-2003, 02:25 PM
I saw in the tv that both Xia and Lin dan was choosed to participate in Copenhagen Masters but both withdraw because of injuries :(.. But Chen Yu is a good replacement :D

SmartCivet
11-24-2003, 11:14 PM
Oh,Chen Yu and XieXingFang must play two matches in one day!

But I think they both can rush into the final.

shawntn
11-25-2003, 02:30 AM
MD: Sigit and Candra

What is going on? Aren't Candra is partnering with Halim? i am getting dizzy....alot of changes in the MD of Indonasia.

kwun
11-25-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by shawntn
MD: Sigit and Candra

What is going on? Aren't Candra is partnering with Halim? i am getting dizzy....alot of changes in the MD of Indonasia.

that was last year's line up. you need to read further down.

shawntn
11-25-2003, 02:34 AM
my mistake..thank you

i was happy for a second knowing they are getting back together. :(


Where is Sigit and Trikus?

kwun
11-25-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by shawntn
my mistake..thank you

i was happy for a second knowing they are getting back together. :(


Where is Sigit and Trikus?

indonesia, what do you mean?

SmashingBird
12-15-2003, 12:35 AM
Sigit and Trikus are probably not chosen since the Copenhagen Masters is an invitational tournament. Sigit is a pretty decent doubles player but his partner is still a bit below him and they aren't consider one of the elite doubles pair so they are probably not chosen.

SmartCivet
12-20-2003, 09:11 AM
Today afternoon, Chen Yu captured the the national championship ms titile,he drive out ChenHong in the final 12-15 15-13 15-7.Chen yu is also defended champion.

Xie Xingfang is the ws champion.In the final she beated ZhangNing 2-11 11-5 11-7.

SmartCivet
12-22-2003, 09:35 AM
I found LEE Chongwei has replaced HASHIM M. Roslin to Copenhagen!

seven
12-22-2003, 10:38 AM
Yes, Roslin has retired due to injury, and Misbun has selected Lee Chong Wei to replace him...

ants
12-22-2003, 10:58 AM
I hope Lee Chong Wei can do some damage at the Copenhagen Open. I'm sure he will do his best since he has been given the opportunity to show what he got.

Han
12-22-2003, 12:14 PM
I am glad to know Chong Wei is selected and I recall his group has Chen Yu, Kenneth Jonassen? I don't think Chong Wei is good enough to fight with these two players but it's a very experience for him just to take part. As long as Chong Wei put up a good fight, I will be happy and anything better than that is considered a New Year bonus. Let's hope we don't see two danish players in the final, boring.

ants
12-26-2003, 12:19 PM
It will start today!

fabcargo
12-27-2003, 07:51 AM
Here is the link for live scores update :

http://www.horizon-sport.com/cli/dbf/110897649403fopsa6res.htmhttp://www.horizon-sport.com/cli/dbf/110897649403fopsa6res.htm

TrunkZ69
12-27-2003, 10:06 AM
woohoooo gade won one :)

GO Gade!!

Also go Jonas!! Defend your world title :)

Being a world champion means you have to win all your tournaments from now on;)

ants
12-27-2003, 10:28 AM
I think Gade improve alot. :) 1st game over taufik 15-2. That must be something.

ants
12-27-2003, 12:30 PM
Kenneth Jonassen VS Lee Chong wei

Ken got the first game in just 14mins. 15-5

ants
12-27-2003, 12:49 PM
Close game... second set.. Lee saved 3 match point.. now deuce 14-14

ants
12-27-2003, 12:51 PM
Lee lost the game 15-5 , 17-14. Close and hard fought 2nd set. Great game by Lee..

ants
12-27-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Han
I am glad to know Chong Wei is selected and I recall his group has Chen Yu, Kenneth Jonassen? I don't think Chong Wei is good enough to fight with these two players but it's a very experience for him just to take part. As long as Chong Wei put up a good fight, I will be happy and anything better than that is considered a New Year bonus. Let's hope we don't see two danish players in the final, boring.

Yeah.. i prefer watching Gade Vs Wong CH. Lee Did a great job giving hard time for kenneth to win the match

whizkelv
12-27-2003, 01:46 PM
Is Taufik injured?
Does not seems like his usual self.

Han
12-27-2003, 01:57 PM
I don't think Peter Gade and Wong Choon Hann are readlly that superior in MS compare to the Chinese counterpart, rather those easy victory over Taufik is just the sign of the wonder boy is going down hill. Taufik better put his act together or else he may not even qualify for Olympic.

ants
12-27-2003, 01:59 PM
Wong Choon Han gave Taufik a trashin by winning 15-4 15-6. next game is our JR/LARS vs Kim/Yim. I think this match our JR have the upperhand.

seawell
12-28-2003, 09:29 AM
xie2:0(11:9,11:1)pi!

Mag
12-28-2003, 10:32 AM
A few remarks about yesterday's events:

I watched parts of the match between Gade and Taufik, and Gade looked really strong. On the other hand, there was no real competition, yesteday he was a class above Taufik. Taufik looked really slow and careless.

JR and Lars played so-so against Yim/Kim. Overall, it wasn't a great match, both sides made a lot of sloppy mistakes, the Koreans only a bit more so than the Danes... But the Danes were controlling the match pretty much all along. It was notable that they served high to the Koreans probably like 50% of the time. They just didn't have the power to hammer it down, whereas Jonas and Lars are -- as always -- EVIL in the defense... :p I saw that they also beat the Brits today, as expected.

Jonassen also looked sharp. Very much in control, quick around court. Wasn't at all impressed by the opposition. It's not obvious who will meet in the finals...

The big surprise was Tine Rasmussen's big win over Pi. That I would never have guessed. She's been injury-free now for some time, so perhaps she will finally prove her talent.

Tomorrow are the finals... And I'm going to be there! I'll write up a short report, but unfortunately I won't be able to do that until I get back home... I suppose it'll be JR/Lars vs Candra/Halim in the MD final. A dream final for me...

ants
12-28-2003, 10:41 AM
Lee Chong Wei win against Chen Yu is remarkable. Both Testing each other out , but Chong Wei Came out on top.

wl2172
12-28-2003, 01:11 PM
Wong has beaten Gade in 2 hard fought sets....well done to Wong.

ants
12-28-2003, 01:14 PM
Wong win Peter 15-13 , 15-12.

1st game it was close with peter leading the game early , but wong manage to catch up until the score was like 14-8.. then peter played more attacking until the score 14-13. Wong end the game at 15-13.

2nd set , wong leading earli... close fight 5-5 then wong breakaway until 12-6. Then peter try his comeback again until 14-11.. 12-14 and wong wrap up 15-12.

Han
12-28-2003, 02:40 PM
Regardless who Wong is meeting in the final, I think it's a done deal, Wong will the the Mater title. The anticipation should be on MD between Halim/Wijaya vs Rasmussen/Paskee.

ants
12-28-2003, 03:24 PM
Wong Choon Han will face Kenneth Jonassen in the finals

While Camilla will face Xie Xingfang for womens singles

Lars/JR will face halim/chandra.


Wong will be the champion for mens and Camilla will most likely win this tourney.

Exciting part will be the doubles.

Winex West Can
12-28-2003, 05:46 PM
Man, it's going to be good watching the finals...I'm so jealous of the lucky folks who can go watch the matches.

Predictions:
MS: Wong
LS: Xie
MD: It's a toss-up and probably will be the match of the day!

Han
12-28-2003, 05:57 PM
Watching live event is so much more fun then the delay version. I recall watching the GP1999 while visiting Malaysia many years ago on TV. Man, it was electrifying ... Well, in US, we still have the 1-2 star US Open yearly, I missed the 1996/1997 5-star US Open with Dong Jiong, Poul Erik Larsen, Peter Gade, Joko Suprianto, Rashid Sidek, Fung Permadi, Cheah/Yap, Sigit/Wijaya, ...
Now with 1-star US Open, we have ... ???
At least I have the delay video :-)

shuyi
12-28-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Mag

The big surprise was Tine Rasmussen's big win over Pi. That I would never have guessed. She's been injury-free now for some time, so perhaps she will finally prove her talent.


worldbadminton.net reports that Pi HongYan was injured, she had a bad fall while walking on the icy streets of Copenhagen.
I think the match would not be one sided if Pi had not been injured.

The final would definately be an interesting one, looking forward to it. :D

ants
12-28-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by whizkelv
Is Taufik injured?
Does not seems like his usual self.

He is currently trainning on his own. Still have some dispute with Indonesian Team. Can't improve much if ur on your own.

seven
12-29-2003, 12:55 PM
Choong Hann took the first set 15-7... :D

seven
12-29-2003, 12:57 PM
the live scoring seems to be blocked at 3-4 in the second set!
does anyone know the reason for this?? (injury or whatever? ... or just a technical problem with the site?)

wl2172
12-29-2003, 01:33 PM
Wong too strong for Kenneth this time around.


I wonder why he fared so badly in Vietnam against Sony Dwi Kuncoro? Fatigue? Needed time off? Pressure?

seven
12-29-2003, 02:17 PM
yeah, 15-7 15-10 for Wong CH...

same for Xie XF, 11-3 11-3 against Camilla!

seven
12-29-2003, 02:18 PM
And Haryanto-Wijaya took the first set 15-11 against Lars and JR.

Danes are having tough time today!!

jamesd20
12-29-2003, 02:46 PM
JR/Paaske lost to Wijaya/haryanto 15-11 15-4

Winex West Can
12-29-2003, 03:07 PM
Looks like the Asian contingent won all the events.

Camille lost both games by identical scores 11-3

Wong won 15-7 15-10

Halim/Wijaya won 15-11 15-4

ants
12-29-2003, 07:35 PM
Way to go Wong! Too bad JR/Lars lost. They played well , but i think Wijaya/Haryanto played better this time.

ronk
12-29-2003, 07:47 PM
So sad for Denmark. Danes in all three finals and all lost. Better luck next year.

Ron

SmartCivet
12-29-2003, 08:22 PM
I think WONG CH of MAS, SONY of INA, LEE Hyun-Il of KOR will be the strongest opponents for the Chinese MS players.

SmartCivet
12-29-2003, 08:27 PM
I think this is the fist time for XIE XF to beat Martin.I think it is very important for her in scrambling for the qualification of Olympics Games.

Han
12-29-2003, 09:18 PM
The way I see it, the main reason Wong lost to Sony in SEA Games final was lacked of stamina. Wong's coach Misbun Sidek wanted Wong to change his style of playing so Wong can be a better overall player than a pure attacker. Honestly, I don't quite agree with Misbun on this as Wong has proven he can get deep into rounds in most of the tournaments with the same style that he has been playing. So why change something that's not broken?
I recall in 1998-1999, the same thing happened to Jumping Jack Arby Heryanto, Arby also tried to be an all around player and took away the edge he had on attacking ... To me, you live and die on what you have and Wong has some good stuff in attacking and is very capable of defending when he first emerged into international scene. I rather have Wong to keep his attacking edge and improve his defensive skill as he's the only hope Malaysia has to win a medal in coming Olympic which I think he's very capable of with current form and playing style.
Misbun, think trice ...

seawell
12-29-2003, 09:21 PM
This is the second time for XIE XF to beat Martin!
Xingfang XIE 1 - 3 Camilla MARTIN



Year Tournament & Nation Round Winner Score
2003 Yonex Open Japan 2003
JAPAN Gold Medal Final MARTIN 1-11 5-11
2002 Realkredit Danmark Open 2002
DENMARK Semi-Finals MARTIN 3-11 7-11
2002 Yonex-Sunrise Singapore Open 2002
SINGAPORE 1/16 XIE 11-7 13-10
2002 Malaysia Open 2002 (I)
MALAYSIA Semi-Finals MARTIN 11-6 5-11 1-11

fhchiang
12-29-2003, 10:21 PM
judging New Malaysia Star Lee Chong Wei's Performance.....


he could be the next world beater.......

he is only 21 or 22 this year.......


he would be the next wong choon hann for malaysia or maybe even better......

ants
12-29-2003, 11:30 PM
I agree! He is turning 22 next year. :)
He will be the next uprising star in 2004.

Originally posted by fhchiang
judging New Malaysia Star Lee Chong Wei's Performance.....


he could be the next world beater.......

he is only 21 or 22 this year.......


he would be the next wong choon hann for malaysia or maybe even better......

wl2172
12-30-2003, 10:51 AM
Lee Chong Wei more all rounded, Choon Hann is more attacking. A good blend of players.

ronk
12-30-2003, 11:31 AM
How tall is Lee Chong Wei? I remember reading somewhere that he is not that tall -- below average in height. This may be a disadvantage for him and limit his game. For men's singles, being above 5"10 is an advantage. Too tall or too short will be adisadvantage.

Ron

fhchiang
12-30-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Han
The way I see it, the main reason Wong lost to Sony in SEA Games final was lacked of stamina. Wong's coach Misbun Sidek wanted Wong to change his style of playing so Wong can be a better overall player than a pure attacker. Honestly, I don't quite agree with Misbun on this as Wong has proven he can get deep into rounds in most of the tournaments with the same style that he has been playing. So why change something that's not broken?
I recall in 1998-1999, the same thing happened to Jumping Jack Arby Heryanto, Arby also tried to be an all around player and took away the edge he had on attacking ... To me, you live and die on what you have and Wong has some good stuff in attacking and is very capable of defending when he first emerged into international scene. I rather have Wong to keep his attacking edge and improve his defensive skill as he's the only hope Malaysia has to win a medal in coming Olympic which I think he's very capable of with current form and playing style.
Misbun, think trice ...




indeed wong has changed a bit in his style.....

notice most of wong's net shot against jonassen were very sharp and tight and most touched the net before crossing??


he couldn't play net that well when he played xia xuan zhe in world championships final right...

Han
12-30-2003, 12:04 PM
Lee Chong Wei is an all around player, although he doesn't have the attacking weapon like Choon Hann due to his height but he's very quick and quite deceptive. Every international player has his unique skill and Chong Wei will has his position as one of the world beaters. Yong Hock Kin is also short but he was fear by many top players during his prime in 1998/1999. Simply, there are so many ways to win the match besides the flashy jump smashes(we don't see Peter Gade and Taufik win that often anymore even with their precise jump smashes).
As for Jonas/Lars, they have quite different style than the Asian pairs. Asian pairs like Kim/Ha, Wijaya/Halim, Lee/Choong(a little bit over stretch to put them along side with Kim/Ha and Wijaya/Halim but I am a Malaysian :-)) empahsize on power attack with lots of jump smashes while Jonas/Lars rely a lot on low and flat drives to win their points. Very contradicting style. Asian pairs use to cake walk the European pairs in MD but is no longer true with Jonas/Lars at wings.