View Full Version : Flaxseed Oil (& essential fats)


Neil Nicholls
01-26-2004, 03:57 AM
In another thread, BRL said he was taking flaxseed oil as a supplement, and I said I had seen some research involving flaxseed oil. Here it is.

It has findings that indicate that your intake of essential fats helps regulate how much fat your body stores, and also affects endurance.

Neil Nicholls
01-26-2004, 03:59 AM
And something else which looks at essential fats and vitamin supplements as a way of treating inflammatory injuries.

cappy75
01-26-2004, 04:41 AM
Cool! That means less guilt for my other passion... Sashimi! Reason? It's good for me... (aside from the PCBs findings *ahem*):D Flaxseed and fish... part of the baddy warriors' daily meal! Jokes aside, that's a wonderful article. Thanks, Neil!

Originally posted by Neil Nicholls
In another thread, BRL said he was taking flaxseed oil as a supplement, and I said I had seen some research involving flaxseed oil. Here it is.

It has findings that indicate that your intake of essential fats helps regulate how much fat your body stores, and also affects endurance.

bluejeff
01-26-2004, 10:47 PM
I usually eat before and after I paly badminton :):)
I say, screw the fat, Badminton will burn them out quicker than you can imagine. :p

crazy_smasher
01-26-2004, 11:13 PM
Hi !!

Excellent article , Nicholls!!! I have been using ketoprofen lately but i think i should lessen its use nowadays

I wonder how the flax seeds oil look and taste like and how expensive it is? I have only taken some scotts emulsion cod liver oil long time ago. I wonder whether the seeds are sold separately as are sold "sunflower seeds" in small packets.

Chia
01-27-2004, 02:05 AM
flaxseed oil comes in pills or just as oil..
I bought mine as a pill, cause it was easiler for me.. pop one in the morning and i am good to go. And dont have to deal with the tastes of flaxseed oil, good or bad i dont know.
YOu can get it as the oil.. some people i believe put the flaxseed oil in cereal and other foods..

Neil Nicholls
01-27-2004, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by bluejeff
I say, screw the fat, Badminton will burn them out quicker than you can imagine. :p

until you get injured and can't do any exercise...

Neil Nicholls
01-27-2004, 04:25 AM
the taste of flaxseed oil is unpleasant at first, but you get used to it. Or you quickly find ways to disguise it. I tried adding it to my morning porridge, but the flavour overpowered the porridge. So now I just glug some from the bottle and wash it down with another drink.

I had fish oil capsules a while back but I found they repeated on me during the day.
Fish flavour burps. yuk.

you can get flax in seed form (might be called linseed, I think flaxseed and linseed are the same thing)

jamesd20
01-27-2004, 04:31 AM
Be careful about porridge. Its good for your digestion system, but the nutritional benefits of it are limited, as the fibre in the oats reduces the absorption rate of calcium, and the heat of cooking destroys the b-vitamins.

Not saying that you eat it for nutrition you may like the taste(!)

Neil Nicholls
01-27-2004, 05:15 AM
The porridge is mostly for hunger control as part of my weight loss diet.
With breakfast between 6:30 and 7:00 it often keeps me going until 12:00 without feeling hungry.

When I read that omega-3 EFAs might help burn fat, I had to give it a go. But I don't like fish, so I went for the oil.

jamesd20
01-27-2004, 05:55 AM
Is it working?

the weight loss that is, They are apparently good for evrything, arteries, blood pressure, skin, and generally good feeling.

Neil Nicholls
01-27-2004, 06:40 AM
the diet, In general, yes.
I started at 14st 2lb in July 2001, BMI 30, body fat 25%
with various ups and downs I got to 11st 13lb in Sep 2003, BMI 24.9 body fat 18.5%

Xmas, injuries, and pizza, chocolate and crisp cravings have dumped me back to 12st 7lb

EFAs, too early to tell. If I keep it up for about 3 months I might be able to tell if I lost weight/fat any faster than without. But unless I eat the same sort of food and have similar exercise it will be hard to compare.

bigredlemon
01-27-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Neil Nicholls
the taste of flaxseed oil is unpleasant at first, but you get used to it.
Some people like the taste of flaxseed oil. yummm. :D

Neil Nicholls
01-27-2004, 04:10 PM
crazy people maybe...:p

taneepak
01-27-2004, 09:20 PM
Make sure the bad smell of flaxseed oil is not from oil that has long passed its storage life. Flaxseed oil, like all oils, do not like long storage. Its best to keep it away from light.
Flaxseed oil may not smell nice, but roasted flax seed (not oil), ground on a coffee mill, will have an aromatic smell and tastes excellent, and is really out of this world. It goes well in any hot drink or porridge. I am sure you can buy organic flaxseed in any supermarket. It is so much cheaper than the oil; and you at least know you are taking the real stuff.

bigredlemon
01-27-2004, 11:37 PM
don't forget that flaxseed oil needs to be stored in a refridgerated area without light. Stay clear of stores that sell flaxseed oil on regular shelves instead of the fridge.

yonexfanatic
01-27-2004, 11:50 PM
yeah, it's actually not bad if you eat it with your oatmeal porridge in the morning. my mom adds the flaxseed in and mixes it with the oatmeal. usually she buys the organic type cause she's a health nut and therefore can get quite expensive (as most organic products tend to be) because i try to eat a bowl everyday.

taneepak
01-28-2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by yonexfanatic
yeah, it's actually not bad if you eat it with your oatmeal porridge in the morning. my mom adds the flaxseed in and mixes it with the oatmeal. usually she buys the organic type cause she's a health nut and therefore can get quite expensive (as most organic products tend to be) because i try to eat a bowl everyday.

Make sure you do not overheat the flaxseed. For better absorption, it is better to mill it, or at least chew very hard if not milled.

cappy75
01-28-2004, 01:57 AM
Sheez! Yonexfanatic, no wonder you're so freaking tall:D! It's all those organic stuff you take that made your height spurt like there's no tomorrow! Now I wished my mom was that enthusiastic to go organic all the way when I was younger:p.

Originally posted by yonexfanatic
yeah, it's actually not bad if you eat it with your oatmeal porridge in the morning. my mom adds the flaxseed in and mixes it with the oatmeal. usually she buys the organic type cause she's a health nut and therefore can get quite expensive (as most organic products tend to be) because i try to eat a bowl everyday.

yonexfanatic
01-28-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by taneepak
Make sure you do not overheat the flaxseed. For better absorption, it is better to mill it, or at least chew very hard if not milled.
yeah, my mom doesn't heat it at all. she just pulls out the flaxseed from the fridge and adds it to the oatmeal after it's been made.

yonexfanatic
01-28-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by cappy75
Sheez! Yonexfanatic, no wonder you're so freaking tall:D! It's all those organic stuff you take that made your height spurt like there's no tomorrow! Now I wished my mom was that enthusiastic to go organic all the way when I was younger:p.
haha, i think it was the vegetables that made me tall:D.

ruth1
01-28-2004, 05:35 PM
so i bought some of this stuff to try it out (in the capsules, not brave enough to try the oil). The bottle says to take 3 pills 3 times a day! That's a lot of pills! The Supplement Facts on the back of the bottle say that 3 pills equals one serving. And one serving has 1335 mg of Omega-3 and 388 mg of Omega-6. Is it really necessary for me to take 3 pills 3 times a day? (I'm asking more on the Omega-3 dosage, I got a big bag of sunflower seeds for the Omega-6)

Thanks
Ruth

TrunkZ69
01-29-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by ruth1
so i bought some of this stuff to try it out (in the capsules, not brave enough to try the oil). The bottle says to take 3 pills 3 times a day! That's a lot of pills! The Supplement Facts on the back of the bottle say that 3 pills equals one serving. And one serving has 1335 mg of Omega-3 and 388 mg of Omega-6. Is it really necessary for me to take 3 pills 3 times a day? (I'm asking more on the Omega-3 dosage, I got a big bag of sunflower seeds for the Omega-6)

Thanks
Ruth

I foolishly bought the oil instead of the capsules. Not the worst taste in the world, but at the same time its not something i would take at will. I have a slight gag reflex to it. THis thing only requires 1 tablespoon a day though. (Note that one table spoon seems really big when its full of oil)

One serving has--
omega-3 : 7700 mg
omega-6 : 2170 mg
omega-9 : 2240 mg

cappy75
01-29-2004, 05:21 AM
Is it enough to get the capsule form of flax seed? I thought most of the essential chemicals would have been destroyed by heat and light... wouldn't processing raw flax seeds into capsule diminish the desired nutritional value?

Just went to my neighbourhood Save-On Food looking for raw flaxseed (not supplements) in vain:(. Will try other major supermarts, but may have to visit the higher priced organic food marts for it.

yonexfanatic
01-30-2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by TrunkZ69
.....
One serving has--
omega-3 : 7700 mg
omega-6 : 2170 mg
omega-9 : 2240 mg

Although this isn't on flaxseed, has anyone tried those "Omega Eggs"? Like i mentioned above, my mother is quite a health nut and therefore happens to buy these types of eggs for me and the rest of the family to eat. They don't taste any different, but I guess since they're an omega-3 source, i would assume there's some cardiovascular benefit with eating them.

bottleneck
02-06-2004, 09:15 AM
Read this first before rushing into using flaxseed oil

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/January/16/LFlist1.htm

JChen99
02-06-2004, 01:00 PM
rn't those eggs just eggs with eggwhites and no yolk? or is that some other ting? @@
Originally posted by yonexfanatic
Although this isn't on flaxseed, has anyone tried those "Omega Eggs"? Like i mentioned above, my mother is quite a health nut and therefore happens to buy these types of eggs for me and the rest of the family to eat. They don't taste any different, but I guess since they're an omega-3 source, i would assume there's some cardiovascular benefit with eating them.

bottleneck
02-06-2004, 07:43 PM
They are eggs coming from chickens fed feed containing Omega-3 oils. Therefor the eggs contain Omega-3 fat.

taneepak
02-07-2004, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by bottleneck
They are eggs coming from chickens fed feed containing Omega-3 oils. Therefor the eggs contain Omega-3 fat.

Why not consume the omega-3 oil directly instead of taking it indirectly from 'omega-3 oil to chickens to egg' route? I can understand the eggs route if the chickens can somehow 'manufacture' more omega-3 in their eggs than they consume.

taneepak
02-07-2004, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by bottleneck
Read this first before rushing into using flaxseed oil

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/January/16/LFlist1.htm

I am confused by this article. A lot of research about flaxseed being a cancer fighter has been carried out, including against prostate cancer. You can do a seach on 'flaxseed and cancer' and you will find countless reseach papers and studies that sing the praises of flaxseed.
Alpha-linolenic acid (the good fatty acid), which is abundant in flaxseed, is one of the omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids, similar to those found in fatty fish such as salmon and mackerel. Alpha-linolenic acid has been shown to inhibit the metabolism of another fatty acid, linoleic (the bad fatty acid), which is believed to accelerate the pace at which certain types of cancer cells multiply. This "good fat" (alpha-linolenic) may also help reduce the risk of heart diesease and arthritis.
Omega-3 from salmon and mackerel contains the same alpha-linolenic fatty acid as flaxseed. If alpha-linolenic fatty acid from flaxseed is a prostate cancer promoter, which I am doubtful, why is it that the same stuff from omega-3 oil from fish is safe?

Neil Nicholls
02-07-2004, 04:31 AM
The doctor interviewed in the article said
"..some scientific evidence has caused me concern about recommending flaxseed oil because it may accelerate the progression of prostate cancer. Fish oil, in contrast, does not seem to have this harmful effect on prostate cancer."

presumably it is not to do with the omega-3, but something that is in flaxseed oil that is not in fish oil.
Or maybe even something that is in fish oil, which is not in flaxseed, that makes the fish oil work differently.

"May accelerate the progression of..."
So if you've got prostate cancer, don't take flaxseed oil. Just in case.
And if you don't know if you've got prostate cancer, but live in a society where it's on the increase, don't take flaxseed oil. Just in case.

P.S.
[grumpy mode=on]
don't drive a car, don't ride a motorcycle, don't do exercise, don't eat this, don't eat that, etc, etc, just in case. Because recent studies may have found a link between being alive and getting old and dying.
[grumpy mode=off]

ptang777
02-07-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Neil Nicholls

P.S.
[grumpy mode=on]
don't drive a car, don't ride a motorcycle, don't do exercise, don't eat this, don't eat that, etc, etc, just in case. Because recent studies may have found a link between being alive and getting old and dying.
[grumpy mode=off]

You must be a programmer!:)

Neil Nicholls
02-07-2004, 01:27 PM
yes, but not http, hence lack of [/xxx] to end the tag.
and I was having a brainstorm and couldn't find the <> brackets.
my profile would be a giveaway in that area also
:p