After some help.

Originally played with Isometric Swingpower SS which I loved however I found it too flexible so now playing with an MP-99 which I find just too stiff.

I have played with an AT-500 for a bit but don't like the head-heavy feel although the stiffness seemed more forgiving than the MP-99.

So I am after a Yonex racquet:

Club player who goes in tournaments - doubles/singles
Slightly head heavy to neutral feel.
3U or 4U
Less stiff than MP-99 but not as flexible as the Swingpower.
UK version

I was trying to find out details of the MP-88 New version and the MP-66 but there seems to be inconsistency with the information on websites. The yonex websites around the world also don't have updated info.

Can anyone please suggest a Yonex racquet that fits the above.
Cheers
Sean

Maybe a MP77 3U? I find my MP77 is a good back up to MP90 with slightly more flex, tad more power but poorer control...

i guess the price range is pretty big since you've got all these racquets...and want another yonex. I've got the catalogue next to me...its kinda small :(

anyways, how about the AT-800 DF?....although that might be a little too flexible...(SS is rated stiff while 800DF is medium) 4U

new AT300 seems a tinny less stiff than AT500 (shaft made from graphite while AT500 shaft made from HM Graphite), also i think this is meant to be balanced 3U

New MP88, as well as looking nice, its meant to be more stiff than the previous one, although is also rated medium. 4U this is midly head heavy i think

MP66, this is head light, comes in 3U in UK, rated flexible, so maybe no good? sounds like a defensive/net player type racquet, or maybe for weaker (in terms of strength) players.

New models: MP 44 (3U) and MP23 (2U) are rated as flexible. MP30 and MP 28 are rated medium (both 3U), but MP30 has HM Graphite in shaft, while MP28 only has normal.....not that that tells us much

cab20 MS is rated as stiff, but shouldn't be as stiff as your MP99, shaft is graphite, while frame in HMG, comes in 3U. should be even balanced, if my original cab 20 is anything to go by.

cab10 ms only comes in 2U, and is recommended weighted towards singles, so no good either.

Yonex have also included those charts showing which racquets they recomment for what type of player, singles/doubles, offensive/defensive. each model range (at, mp, cab) have separated ones, so not sure if the scaling is the same across the board.

MP99 is very offensive, tiny bit towards doubles
cab20ms is more offensive, and tiny bit towards singles.
MP30 is rather offensive, sits between the singles/doubles
MP28 is the jack of all trades, sits square in the intersection between the two axises (or whatever its meant to be)
MP88 is defineately doubles, a bit defensive
MP23 is defensive, tiny bit doubles
MP66 is pretty much defensive, doubles
MP44 is even more so than MP66

read from the top to the bottom, in order to offensive to defensive on the chart. i think it is also a basic stiffness range, since offensive players generate their own power (like stiffer racquets) while defensive are not so strong physically and need felxible racquets (i think....please don't take any offense)
AT300 sits in the "stiffness scale" where the MP30 is, almost exact same place

thats all for now, these is all stuff taken from the Yonex catalouge....not personal experience :)

Maybe a MP77 3U? I find my MP77 is a good back up to MP90 with slightly more flex, tad more power but poorer control...

is the MP77 meant to be head heavy?

I would suggest the Ti-7Light, as it's rated almost as stiff as Ti SwingPower SS according to my Yonex 2004 Badminton Catalog (Japan) or the AT-800 DE (rated Stiff on the 4U UK version).

ken

MP77 ios a good replacement for a 99 but I havn't tried the AT800 offensive yet becasue although the AT700 is rated stiff it is quite flexible so the 800 might be slightly more flexible than the rating suggests.

The stock in the UK at the moment is what is left over from the All England which is why shops don't seem to have a full size range in things or the full collection of rackets yet as only a few were sent to the Central Sports stand.

The collection should be in the shops in full about June time

I would suggest the Ti-7Light, as it's rated almost as stiff as Ti SwingPower SS according to my Yonex 2004 Badminton Catalog (Japan) or the AT-800 DE (rated Stiff on the 4U UK version).

ken

Ti-7 light is a tiny bit head light
AT-800 DE is rated Medium by the Yonex '04 catalogue in UK

Since you want a racket that is like MP99, but less stiff, I would say, get a Cab30MS for it because it is what I called, a "diet MP99" :)

Basically, I found those two are a lot similar (comparing with others), but Cab30MS is less stiff and less expensive.

So, you can give it a try, at least try to swing them a bit at stores.

Seanrachy, what strings do you use on your MP99? If you use Yonex BG68 Ti at 22-23/24-25lbs for main/cross, the MP99 will be a very formidable weapon after a few sessions.

New MP88, as well as looking nice, its meant to be more stiff than the previous one, although is also rated medium. 4U this is midly head heavy i think

MP88 is defineately doubles, a bit defensive

thats all for now, these is all stuff taken from the Yonex catalouge....not personal experience :)

well, i dont know 1 pro using mp88 for double play.

well, i dont know 1 pro using mp88 for double play.

Good point that one. Quite a few singles player use it though....

MP90 with BG85 is even more of a formidable weapon if the string would last! :cool:

After some help.

Originally played with Isometric Swingpower SS which I loved however I found it too flexible so now playing with an MP-99 which I find just too stiff.

I have played with an AT-500 for a bit but don't like the head-heavy feel although the stiffness seemed more forgiving than the MP-99.

So I am after a Yonex racquet:

Club player who goes in tournaments - doubles/singles
Slightly head heavy to neutral feel.
3U or 4U
Less stiff than MP-99 but not as flexible as the Swingpower.
UK version

I was trying to find out details of the MP-88 New version and the MP-66 but there seems to be inconsistency with the information on websites. The yonex websites around the world also don't have updated info.

Can anyone please suggest a Yonex racquet that fits the above.
Cheers
Sean

get a well used mp99 :rolleyes:

Ti-7 light is a tiny bit head light
AT-800 DE is rated Medium by the Yonex '04 catalogue in UK


I got the UK 2004 Catalogue too and indeed it's rated Medium in the catalogue but I have seen the actual racquet more than twice now and the FLEX:STIFF is printed on the shaft.

As Matt pointed out in the other thread that the Yonex 2004 Catalogue UK have made obvious mistake of JR & LP's photo on the back page! So this another one and I shall have my share of the cokie too :p Sorry, I should have made it clear in my previous reply. I got the AT-800 OF and it's a FLEX:EX.STIFF

Good-day all,

ken

Since you want a racket that is like MP99, but less stiff, I would say, get a Cab30MS for it because it is what I called, a "diet MP99" :)

Basically, I found those two are a lot similar (comparing with others), but Cab30MS is less stiff and less expensive.

So, you can give it a try, at least try to swing them a bit at stores.

cab30MS is not avaliable in UK

I got the UK 2004 Catalogue too and indeed it's rated Medium in the catalogue but I have seen the actual racquet more than twice now and the FLEX:STIFF is printed on the shaft.

As Matt pointed out in the other thread that the Yonex 2004 Catalogue UK have made obvious mistake of JR & LP's photo on the back page! So this another one and I shall have my share of the cokie too :p Sorry, I should have made it clear in my previous reply. I got the AT-800 OF and it's a FLEX:EX.STIFF

Good-day all,

ken

ah...well, stupid yonex:D....make that 1/3 of a cookie....i get a third for the spelling mistake on the back page

cab30MS is not avaliable in UK
:eek: wow, really?
You guys are missing BIG!! :o

well, we can import then from bbeshop......but would set us back around £110, or 200USD.....dunno what the selling price in US, but would be the same as AT800 here:)

well, we can import then from bbeshop......but would set us back around £110, or 200USD.....dunno what the selling price in US, but would be the same as AT800 here:)

The AT800 will sell at £150 and possibly £135 in some shops, there is no chance you will get it for £110 anywhere since the retail price of the AT700 has just dropped to £130 and you can get it for £110 in some shops.

http://www.centralsports.co.uk/product.php?id=05312

ok sorry....i was £10 off....its £120

http://www.centralsports.co.uk/search.php?action=browseSearch&category=Rackets&manufacturer=Yonex
AT800s are £120
AT700 £100
MP99 £80....although understandably not in stock

ok...i appreciate this is an online place, but same racquet

Oh well this goes against everything the Yonex rep told me last week and I thought I was onto a winner buying 2 new AT700's for £110 each.

I wonder why Central has the rackets and no other retailer has stocks yet, unless they are all that is left over from their AE stall and are low on stock and trying to shift them :confused:

I stand corrected :o

Oh well this goes against everything the Yonex rep told me last week and I thought I was onto a winner buying 2 new AT700's for £110 each.

I wonder why Central has the rackets and no other retailer has stocks yet, unless they are all that is left over from their AE stall and are low on stock and trying to shift them :confused:

I stand corrected :o

well..........i think the yonex rep was putting the prices up a bit
although.....this is easter week......so.......maybe centralsports hasn't been updated...anyways, thought i'd spread the news about the prices:)
heeh......racquet economics and marketing :confused: :eek: :confused: :confused:

sorry hijacked your thread........but....here's one

After some help.

Originally played with Isometric Swingpower SS which I loved however I found it too flexible so now playing with an MP-99 which I find just too stiff.

I have played with an AT-500 for a bit but don't like the head-heavy feel although the stiffness seemed more forgiving than the MP-99.

So I am after a Yonex racquet:

Club player who goes in tournaments - doubles/singles
Slightly head heavy to neutral feel.
3U or 4U
Less stiff than MP-99 but not as flexible as the Swingpower.
UK version

I was trying to find out details of the MP-88 New version and the MP-66 but there seems to be inconsistency with the information on websites. The yonex websites around the world also don't have updated info.

Can anyone please suggest a Yonex racquet that fits the above.
Cheers
Sean


http://www.winexdirect.com/acatalog/badminton-rackets_winex-mighty-muscle-99-racket.html

it says modelled on MP99.....but not as stiff........thing is, it's not yonex

well, i dont know 1 pro using mp88 for double play.Pardon my spelling(if I get it wrong) but Vita Marissa of Indonesia and Mette Scholdager of Denmark use MP88.

Thanks for the replies.

For me personally ....

The AT-300 seems to be one of the ones to seriously look at.

The AT-800 DE sounds great but I am not wanting to spend that sort of money just yet.

I must admit after SheldonZhang's comment about the special Easter ebay deal on Winex Arm 700 for £29.99 I ended up buying one of those. Yes I know it's not a Yonex !

I will also persist with the MP-99 and when the strings break try what Taneepak suggested.

Cheers.

After some help.

Originally played with Isometric Swingpower SS which I loved however I found it too flexible so now playing with an MP-99 which I find just too stiff.


Which version of Isometric Swingpower SS do you have? There are ISO SP 900, Ti SP blue version and Ti SP orange version. I guess yours must be either ISO SP 900 or Ti SP blue version. If so, get a Ti SP SS orange version. It's stiffer than the other two models. I find it a little bit stiff. MP-99 is stiffer but I don't find it extremely stiff.

If yours is a Ti SP SS orange version, I don't think you can find anything by Yonex with the stiffness between it and MP-99. I tried both MP-99 and Ti SP SS (blue and orange).

cab30MS is not avaliable in UK

I am 2nd to BlueJeff to recommend Cab30MS.

If the import tax and shipping is not a big factor, maybe u can consider purchase from US. The retail price is between USD$95-$110.

Check www.yonex.co.jp for more info.
By the way Ti 7 Light is standard lenth, 665 mm