who will win Men's doubles Gold ?

How exactly does Sigit/Halim get in here? :confused:
Isn't it Trikush/Sigit?

I can probably say the dark horse here is Choong/Lee, so quiet, out of the radar. They could just up the ante of their game and make it to the finals like assasins.

No votes for Cai/Fu from me. Their game doesn't impress me enough. I'd nominate Sang/Zheng ahead of them. ;)

Somehow, I get the feeling Kim/Ha may not make it far enough. I'd call for Jonas/Lars to get it.

both Halim and Trikus are Haryanto's..

I thought it's Tri Kusharyanto?
Nvm.
My bad. :o

I'm going for JR and Lars becuase I think they are going to time their peak better than other pairs.! ;)

Definetely JR and Lars :)!

They are awesome!!
(and I am waiting to see another JR special move :D!!)

JR and Lars are pretty impressive nowadays. I still support my countrymen, Choong and Lee if they are able to mantain their form in the TC when they played against Luluk - Alven. But they might ended up being the second best (as usual for Malaysians)

i vote for the handsome duo Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng :p

not just because they r handsome.... but i think they r great players too :D

Zhong Guo Dui Jia You....... *echo* :cool:

My vote goes to kim/ha and cai/fu but I think Paaske/Rasmussen stands a very good chance too...I'm actually very worry about Ha's fitness level... The Olympics are so close and i'm afraid his injury may not recover in time... Cai/fu may not win the gold medal due to lack of experience but i think they can get at least the bronze...Not many players can match with their speed and power...The danes are currently on form and should at least grab the silver medal...

For me, players like Sigit/Trikus and Lee/Yoo are not strong contenders this time...

i vote for the handsome duo Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng :p

not just because they r handsome.... but i think they r great players too :D

Zhong Guo Dui Jia You....... *echo* :cool:
Come on, it is because they're handsome, hmm? ;)
Sang Yang - Zheng Bo!

I sincerely hope lee wan wah/choong tan fook will win~!! it's nearing the end of their playing careers n i hope they can retire with a win in the oympics..i seriously believe if they play to their true capabilities, they can win anyone~! All Malaysians..let's show our support for them~!! Malaysia boleh~! :p

All Malaysians..let's show our support for them~!! Malaysia boleh~! :p

Can't do that...They lost everytime i cheered for them...Cannot "tahan" because I used to be a big fan of Lee Wan Wah and watching them losing everytime they broadcast the matches on tv is simply too much for me...I think inconsistency is their biggest problem...They can beat a top pair and lose to a low-ranked pair in the next match... If i don't cheer for them, they may win... :D

I'd like to see luluk/alven win, but i dont think their chances are pretty good here. so id have to go with kim/ha, they proved to be very consistent.

Jr/Paaske! Go for GOld.. I would also like to see the Msians in the finals.

Well, I quite support HongHong's nomination not so much that this Chinese pair are handsome, but because they are also improving very fast. JR and LP are the top favourites but unless they continue to peak at the right time as they had during the TC Finals, which Cheung thinks they would, the Danish pair will face an enormous challenge!

Come on, it is because they're handsome, hmm? ;)
Sang Yang - Zheng Bo!

they r handsome.... u cant deny the fact
i already admit tat n i added tat they r great players too......
despite them losing in the TC finals... i think overall they still been playing very well for TC........
u got problem with my selection??? y always quote me? :mad:

I want Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng win the gold medal in olympics. But their most opponent is of course Paaske and Rasmusen. The Danish always play well, including when they beat Cai and Fu in Thomas Cup Final 2004 in jakarta. But I believe Cai and Fu will try hard to win the olympic gold medal in Athens. Bravo Cai and Fu !

I hope chn pairs will win it, whether its cai/fu or sang/zeng....but i voted for sang and zeng...........

of course..............
chong-lee
cause i like lee wan wah.....
n of course malaysia boleh!!!!!

I hope chn pairs will win it, whether its cai/fu or sang/zeng....but i voted for sang and zeng...........
hahaha... i expected tat u will vote for ur good friend..... so i'm RIGHT :D
c? i noe u sooooooooooooooooo well............... hahahah :p

Ack! The Men's Doubles medal is up for grabs really. JR/Lars has the best chance but you never know with as much competition as there is out there. Personally I'll be rooting for Cai/Fu, but I think their mental game still lacks to win the gold.

I wanted to vote for Kevin Han and Howard Bach but they are not on there.

I wanted to vote for Kevin Han and Howard Bach but they are not on there.

SB, if you were along that line of thought, then you might as well have voted for Chan/Milroy of Canada!!!

they r handsome.... u cant deny the fact
i already admit tat n i added tat they r great players too......
despite them losing in the TC finals... i think overall they still been playing very well for TC........
u got problem with my selection??? y always quote me? :mad:
Oh no, don't worry. No problems with your selections. They are the flavour of the month (or year) and it's no surprise.

No no. Just teasing you. :)
Calm down.
No no, I don't think they're good looking. ;)

Oh no, don't worry. No problems with your selections. They are the flavour of the month (or year) and it's no surprise.

No no. Just teasing you. :)
Calm down.
No no, I don't think they're good looking. ;)
u don think so, tat's ur view.... i have my own views too......
don tease / joke with me... cos i don c anything fun with it :mad:

Very well HongHong. I will be very serious with you from now on. :cool:

Very well HongHong. I will be very serious with you from now on. :cool:
hahahaa.... i think best is to leave my reply alone....
cos i don need extra comments for whoever i'm voting for :cool:

SB, if you were along that line of thought, then you might as well have voted for Chan/Milroy of Canada!!!
I would have, but they are not even goin to the olympics..hahah

Nah, neither the Chinese nor Indonesian pairs won't win this one. Cai/Fu and Sang/Zheng will need more time to blossom and Indon doubles is in decline. Maybe Sigit/Halim would have a chance, but Luluk/Alven and Eng Hian/Flandi might as well take a vacation.

HongHong, what's the look of a player got to do with the chances of him winning?

Paaske/Rasmussen (worthy World Champions) is top favourite, followed closely by Choong/Lee, Lundgaard/Eriksen & Kim/Ha.

Nah, neither the Chinese nor Indonesian pairs won't win this one. Cai/Fu and Sang/Zheng will need more time to blossom and Indon doubles is in decline. Maybe Sigit/Halim would have a chance, but Luluk/Alven and Eng Hian/Flandi might as well take a vacation.

HongHong, what's the look of a player got to do with the chances of him winning?

Paaske/Rasmussen (worthy World Champions) is top favourite, followed closely by Choong/Lee, Lundgaard/Eriksen & Kim/Ha.

Sigit is not playing with Halim
I would still like the chances of Sigit/Candra if they were still together

I think Paaske/Rasmussen and Kim/Ha would have equal chance and should be the favorites.

I would have, but they are not even goin to the olympics..hahah

But they would have a better chance than their Southern neighbors, IMHO. LOL, I just realized that Canada has no MD pairs going at all.

Kim Dong Moon/Ha Tae Kweon or JR/Lars Passke

Sigit is not playing with Halim
I would still like the chances of Sigit/Candra if they were still together

I think Paaske/Rasmussen and Kim/Ha would have equal chance and should be the favorites.
Yeah, whatever. This Indons pairs splitting is really confusing me. But I agree with you that only Sigit/Chandra would have a chance had they still been together. No wonder Indon badminton's performance dropped significantly, their coaches make strange decisions!!

Yeah, whatever. This Indons pairs splitting is really confusing me. But I agree with you that only Sigit/Chandra would have a chance had they still been together. No wonder Indon badminton's performance dropped significantly, their coaches make strange decisions!!

I agree that the whole splitting issue is getting the players nowhere... However, the players themselves deserve their share of blame for their disappointing performance...Its Candra's request after all to split up with Sigit... maybe they should just settle their differences aside and concentrate more on their career... I understand it requires good communications between the doubles players but they have been playing together for so long, can't they just sort their problem out?? What really surprises me is the lack of new talents in the men doubles... Indonesia used to be such a dominating force in the MD... Luluk/Alven is good but they are still far behind compared to Tony/Sigit/Candra/Halim/Trikus when they were of that age... Even for the men singles, they have problems unearthing new talents... Few years back, they were just like the Chinese nowadays...

They should learn from M'sia's Razif/Jalani Sidek. The brothers were not on good terms with each other too, but that didn't affect them on court and in training.

It's clear that the Indon pairs have slim chance to win *sigh :(

My vote goes for the strongest team..either the Danish or Chinese pairs :)

it's either cai/fu, kim/ha, or jr/paaske.

kim/ha's downside is that ha is physically not fit as the other mentioned pairings, and kim also plays xd, so that will take a lot of energy. However, if not for these reasons, kim/ha will win (like the japan open, when kim didn't play xd)

cai/fu is good, but has bad record against jr/paaske.

jr/paaske has been good, but they didn't win much tourneys (besides wc and china),

so who knows?

who will win Men's doubles Gold ?
I pray for Luluk / ALven... Wish they luck okay....!!:)

Hi.. however I vote Cai/Fu as the first favourite although Paaske/Rasmussen will be the most difficult pair for the Chinese. I believe that the lost of the Chinese to the Danish in the last TU Final will enforce the Chinese to prepare better, so that they can win the gold. Why not ? Cai/Fu JIA YOU !! ;) :)

Hi.. however I vote Cai/Fu as the first favourite although Paaske/Rasmussen will be the most difficult pair for the Chinese. I believe that the lost of the Chinese to the Danish in the last TU Final will enforce the Chinese to prepare better, so that they can win the gold. Why not ? Cai/Fu JIA YOU !! ;) :)


they also lost to Choong and Lee in the AE as well.....C/L look pretty hot when they are on form-played really well in the final until they cracked up over the.......incident :D

I'd have to say JR/lars or Ha/Kim

Many of you have Cai/Fu in mind, but after watching them play against JR/Lars in TC I was very very disappointed for they were nowhere close.

I will support Indonesia as usual. I hope they can at least get a medal through Alven / Luluk or Sigit / Trikus.

i would like to see choong/lee win this one

I am still putting my vote on Korean Top pair ...

I will support Indonesia as usual. I hope they can at least get a medal through Alven / Luluk or Sigit / Trikus.
is sigit playing with trikus in the AE???:confused: :confused: I heard that Sigit is paired up with Halim for this event:confused: :confused:

is sigit playing with trikus in the AE???:confused: :confused: I heard that Sigit is paired up with Halim for this event:confused: :confused:

:confused: :confused: :confused: ?? HUH?! :confused: what!?! AE?! :confused:

mix up between All England and Olympics

I will vote Choong and Lee of Malaysia, I hope they will improve their mental strengths after the yellow carding in AE 2004. If not that incident, they are the champions. Lin Dan was also shown the yellow card, but somehow he managed to win the match in the TC finals.

I am still going for JR/LP because they are good and they have good records against others (the major ones). Also, many of other pairs are having bad lucks sometimes....so, I still think JR/LP will grap the gold :)!

I think that the finals will consist of CAI/FU and PASKE/RASMUSSEN....but i REALLY hope that the winner is CAI/FU...because i support CHINA all the way and also they are really gettin betta....it is really obvious how much they improved...compared to last year i mean...WOW!!....JIA YOU ZHONG GUO DUI!!!

I will vote Choong and Lee of Malaysia, I hope they will improve their mental strengths after the yellow carding in AE 2004. If not that incident, they are the champions. Lin Dan was also shown the yellow card, but somehow he managed to win the match in the TC finals.

I KNOW...i can't believe that the umpire wouldn't give Chonnng and LEE a let...that was horrible...or else they would've gotten the gold for sure...i felt sooo bad for them!:mad:

I think that the finals will consist of CAI/FU and PASKE/RASMUSSEN....but i REALLY hope that the winner is CAI/FU...because i support CHINA all the way and also they are really gettin betta....it is really obvious how much they improved...compared to last year i mean...WOW!!....JIA YOU ZHONG GUO DUI!!!
Cai/Fu haven't got what it takes, yet! Nor, for that matter, Sang/Zheng. Cai/Fu especially, did badly in M'sian Open. How'd they lose to the young Indons, I don't know.

Paaske/Rasmussen, Choong/Lee, and both Korean pairs are frontrunners for this event, both on current form and on experience ... ...

Not to say that the Chinese can't win, but I don't see how that is possible.

Cai/Fu haven't got what it takes, yet! Nor, for that matter, Sang/Zheng. Cai/Fu especially, did badly in M'sian Open. How'd they lose to the young Indons, I don't know.

Paaske/Rasmussen, Choong/Lee, and both Korean pairs are frontrunners for this event, both on current form and on experience ... ...

Not to say that the Chinese can't win, but I don't see how that is possible.

I think All chinese players have very good mentality for winning, look at Lin Dan, Bao, Xinping, Sun Jun, ect. They seem to be good under pressure and Cai/Fu should have a very good chance to win. Hae Tak Kwun was injured and don't know how good he can be come Olympics plus KD Moon is playing 2 events so they have the odds stack against them.

I pick Jane Hancock to win, if she is to be the umpire for matches involving Choong/Lee.

I pick Jane Hancock to win, if she is to be the umpire for matches involving Choong/Lee.

Haha...looks like it will be a looong time before she is forgiven. But anyway, Choong/Lee had no business losing the All England title like that.

[I don´t think the danes will win, not the chinese either. Fu and Cai is smashing hard, but they lack some sense for tactics. I think Chong/Lee, Malaysia or the koreans Kim and Ha is better when it comes to tactics. Indonesia is not as strong as in Sydney, since none of their pairs are in Gunawan/wijaya class. But Alven/Luluk is a dark horse to me.

Haha...looks like it will be a looong time before she is forgiven. But anyway, Choong/Lee had no business losing the All England title like that.I agree. Choong/Lee were the better pair and probably deserved the title, but they were denied by weaker minds (and not Jane Hancock). For such an experienced pair, that is inexcusable. You'd never see that happen to the Sidek brothers, who had great mental strength.

I think All chinese players have very good mentality for winning, look at Lin Dan, Bao, Xinping, Sun Jun, ect. They seem to be good under pressure and Cai/Fu should have a very good chance to win.
I would agree with your perception of Chinese singles players only. Not the men's doubles, though. Part of the reason is that China had always been in the forefront of men's singles since Han Jian/Luan Jin's time.

In men's doubles, China was only strong during the Li Yongbo/Tian Bingyi era. After that, it took more than 10 years for them to reestablish themselves in men's doubles with Cai/Fu and Sang/Zheng. Without such continuity, these two pairs are only just finding their footing. They will have good futures, I'm sure, but the Olympics is just too early for them.

I voted for Rasmussen/Paaske before but change my mind, it should be Choong/Lee.

[ But Alven/Luluk is a dark horse to me.
My vote goes to Sang/Zheng and Alven/Luluk. I have a feeling that Alven/Luluk will be a dark hours in Athens too. I am quiete sure that Kim/Ha will lose in the early round because Korea need the XD gold medal.

Better go with Sang/Zheng than Alven/Luluk. The Indon pair has the same problems with Cai/Fu when going up against experienced pairs. Sang/Zheng at least put up a decent fight against Choong/Lee in M'sian Open q-finals. They should have been playing in the final instead.

We probably see three Danish pair in the quarter finals. However all the team are beatable or rather of equal standard. I hope our two cartoons Lee /Choong can see better days as their career in this sport are number. These two cartoons seems to adapt very well to the new technuque of speed, push, net play etc. Only lifting if there is no choice and smashing if there is a poor return. I will love to see Choong partnering Wong Choon Han in the doubles for another two years. Yes, Wong Choon Han. Good net player, good in tapping play, tall and commanding with his smashes.! Any comment.

WCH used to play a bit of doubles and has acted on many Thomas Cup campaigns as Malaysia's back-up doubles player (like in this year's Thomas Cup campaign). However, the badminton game has evolved so much in recent years such that the top singles players can no longer play dual roles effectively anymore. Or it can be argued the other way as well - doubles specialists can no longer compete effectively against the top singles players.

More than ten years ago, we had many Thomas Cuppers among the top nations playing dual roles successfully - Luan Jin (China), Liem Swee King (Indonesia), Razif, Rashid and Misbun Sidek, plus Ong Beng Teong (Malaysia).

Coming back to WCH - my point is that the doubles games had evolved so much and had moved away from singles play. It takes many years to hone the necessary skills to be a od doubles players and also many years for two playing together to forge a top combination. To make a successful transformation, I think you need to start young - like in your early 20's. I recalled Bambang Suprianto of Indonesia made that switch early in his career. For WCH it may be a bit too late, although his playing style does suit doubles play as well.

Recently, Roslin Hashim was quoted as saying that he may be interested to move into doubles instead of retiring outright at some point. I think it would be difficult especially for his defensive-style of play.

WCH used to play a bit of doubles and has acted on many Thomas Cup campaigns as Malaysia's back-up doubles player (like in this year's Thomas Cup campaign). However, the badminton game has evolved so much in recent years such that the top singles players can no longer play dual roles effectively anymore. Or it can be argued the other way as well - doubles specialists can no longer compete effectively against the top singles players.

More than ten years ago, we had many Thomas Cuppers among the top nations playing dual roles successfully - Luan Jin (China), Liem Swee King (Indonesia), Razif, Rashid and Misbun Sidek, plus Ong Beng Teong (Malaysia).

Coming back to WCH - my point is that the doubles games had evolved so much and had moved away from singles play. It takes many years to hone the necessary skills to be a od doubles players and also many years for two playing together to forge a top combination. To make a successful transformation, I think you need to start young - like in your early 20's. I recalled Bambang Suprianto of Indonesia made that switch early in his career. For WCH it may be a bit too late, although his playing style does suit doubles play as well.

Recently, Roslin Hashim was quoted as saying that he may be interested to move into doubles instead of retiring outright at some point. I think it would be difficult especially for his defensive-style of play.
I think WCH losing touch as a singles.... His recent outing against Sony during TC clearly shown that age is catching up with him.....Well it will be a waste for Malaysia if he goes into retirement...maybe he can also guide the young Koo Kien Keat.

WCH used to play a bit of doubles and has acted on many Thomas Cup campaigns as Malaysia's back-up doubles player (like in this year's Thomas Cup campaign). However, the badminton game has evolved so much in recent years such that the top singles players can no longer play dual roles effectively anymore. Or it can be argued the other way as well - doubles specialists can no longer compete effectively against the top singles players.

More than ten years ago, we had many Thomas Cuppers among the top nations playing dual roles successfully - Luan Jin (China), Liem Swee King (Indonesia), Razif, Rashid and Misbun Sidek, plus Ong Beng Teong (Malaysia).

Coming back to WCH - my point is that the doubles games had evolved so much and had moved away from singles play. It takes many years to hone the necessary skills to be a od doubles players and also many years for two playing together to forge a top combination. To make a successful transformation, I think you need to start young - like in your early 20's. I recalled Bambang Suprianto of Indonesia made that switch early in his career. For WCH it may be a bit too late, although his playing style does suit doubles play as well.

Recently, Roslin Hashim was quoted as saying that he may be interested to move into doubles instead of retiring outright at some point. I think it would be difficult especially for his defensive-style of play.

I hope that Chew Choong Eng who also has an undetermined future, partners Wong. And his usual partner, Chan Chong Ming partners the young gun Koo Kien Keat. But I feel Roslin Hashim do not stand a chance becoz he is very single-minded

My vote goes to Choong/Tan. They are the best if their mind doesn't go wrong... hahaha

Lin Dan was also shown the yellow card, but somehow he managed to win the match in the TC finals.
Both were different in terms of fairness and justice. Lin Dan was shown the yellow card for his wrong doings which i think was fair and just. Conversely, LWW/CTF was shown the yellow card for which they believed they have done nothing wrong on their part. Many agree that it should have been a let. As such, i think they lost the AE cause they felt that the yellow card was not fair and just.

Yes, I am a Malaysian but then....:) Arh.....it's now history....