Details and pics will be up soon. Plus review as well from me.

Comparison between the Original OF and Fake DE

See the cone.. and the picture of the PBSI. The fake's shaft is slightly longer than the orginal one.

The left one is fake..

See the difference of the grommets.. suprisingly the fake also have the extra grommets on the 10 and 2 oclock.

Pics of the shaft.. 1st one is fake 2nd one is real.. see if you can spot the difference.. reviews later..

that is amazing. the real AT800 is just coming out in some countries, and fakes are already in the market. ants, where did you get this fake from?

Which brings to the next question...
How can a buyer tell the difference between both ?

hi ants,

i thought u mention the pics above are the comparison between original OF and fake DE....but the shafts of both racquets have same color??!!
anywaz, the fake are catching up real fast, or even surpass Yonex itself...... remember the AT900 :p

vc

Which brings to the next question...
How can a buyer tell the difference between both ?

Well just see the pics, you can already identify the fakes.. see the grommets , the shafts , the seal etc..

Well just see the pics, you can already identify the fakes.. see the grommets , the shafts , the seal etc..

yes, with magnified images. However, most buyers aren't that informed nor bring along magnified glasses when shopping for rackets. I have to admit the fakes are getting better and better comestically.

The real one.. at the zero in the middle there is green and red. The fake one REd only. If you see the Defence word.. the letter D connects to the dark green.. when the fake the letter D have some space.

Ants, fake makers aren't consistence as yonex so the differences seen from 1 comparion may not extend to other batches of fakes. We are picking on some really small details here, even I don't know yonex are that consistent either. Remember at one time some said mp 90 and mp99 have slight different shades of yellow?

more pics. Sticker

The At800 comes with this bag.. the fake ones comes with the old at700 bag.

The "FAKE AT800" Review.

When i first hold it , i already know its a fake.. its too light. Even balanced or head light. When i use it to hit , i felt so much vibration. It was strung with bg66. No power , no stability. I'm sure the OF version of fake will also be the same , just that the color is OF color.


Kwun : the fake is from one of my friend. based on my source , OF version will come out in maybe 2 or 3 weeks time. DE "original" version is more sellable , so they make the DE fake's first.

I put both rackets on the table standing , The left one is the REAL. right one is the fake. If you can see the fake silver paint overlapped the original one. Both are AT800.

more pics. Sticker

This is probably the best indication of the difference. The others are quite minute IMHO.
Yes the fakes are getting better & it's impossible to tell one form the other thru the naked eye.
Just got the DE version yesterday - glad to know I have the Genuine version..
Thanks for the pics.

This is probably the best indication of the difference. The others are quite minute IMHO.
Yes the fakes are getting better & it's impossible to tell one form the other thru the naked eye.
Just got the DE version yesterday - glad to know I have the Genuine version..
Thanks for the pics.

no prob , glad to help.

Geee the fakes are indeed getting better and better. And they are now introducing their products much earlier as before. Ultimately I believe that these fakes would equal the appearance of the original Yonex. The only way by then to differentiate the two would be on performance, which would be hard to gauge especially when the buyer isnt familiar or hasnt tried the original product. Guess the safest bet would be to buy at reputable stores or at authorized Yonex outlets to be safe. Thanks for the info ants :)

Great pics and comparison Ants! I will try to post pics of my AT800JP. In Japan, the AT800 and even the MPs do not come with any racket bag. They just have a black cloth sack with drawstrings :rolleyes:

I think all JP rackets come with that black bag. Actually I prefer it to the standard bag. I got so many of those standard badminton bags lieing around. On the other hand, those black bags are very useful. I can slip my rackets into it before placing all of them inside my big bag, thereby avoiding them touching each other and scraping.

Hmmm, now ill think twice before purchasing At800

The TH version is posted here for comparison. But it is the OF model.
The TH version does not come with the cover like the one as shown. But the cover design from Armortec 700, 500, etc.....


http://www.austindigital.com.sg/arm3.JPG

The TH version is posted here for comparison. But it is the OF model.
The TH version does not come with the cover like the one as shown. But the cover design from Armortec 700, 500, etc.....


What tensio do u use? 22?

This is a friend's racket which I borrowed. Should be 24lb.

The "FAKE AT800" Review.

When i first hold it , i already know its a fake.. its too light. Even balanced or head light. When i use it to hit , i felt so much vibration. It was strung with bg66. No power , no stability. I'm sure the OF version of fake will also be the same , just that the color is OF color.


Kwun : the fake is from one of my friend. based on my source , OF version will come out in maybe 2 or 3 weeks time. DE "original" version is more sellable , so they make the DE fake's first.
Interesting, I recently bought a Ti-10 from eBay for only $100 USD. It feels head light (instead of head heavy) and no power. I begun to suspect if the racquet is fake but noone could spot any difference. Now, my suspicious is greater that I might get a fake Ti-10 from eBay.

Interesting, I recently bought a Ti-10 from eBay for only $100 USD. It feels head light (instead of head heavy) and no power. I begun to suspect if the racquet is fake but noone could spot any difference. Now, my suspicious is greater that I might get a fake Ti-10 from eBay.

Post some pics and let us be the CSI.

...it is really really difficult to spot fakes without having an original to compare with as Ants has shown. The counterfeiters are getting better but the sure tell-tell signs are still the serial number (printed instead of engraved) and the butt cap (YY logo is not distinctly clear).

Even with the MP series, if you don't know that Yonex MP (except for the MP100) have the muscle strip grommets, you wouldn't be able to spot the fakes. Look at the recent pics of the AT 900 !! Who would have thought?

I think Yonex has to do a lot of education to the public to teach them how to differentiate fakes from the real thing.

I think Yonex has to do a lot of education to the public to teach them how to differentiate fakes from the real thing.

Will it teach to people who does fakes how to make it better?

Ants, can you provide us with a photo comparison around the cone area. Yonex has the new 'control support cap (CSC)'. I wonder if the fake had copied that feature.

Thanks

...it is really really difficult to spot fakes without having an original to compare with as Ants has shown. The counterfeiters are getting better but the sure tell-tell signs are still the serial number (printed instead of engraved) and the butt cap (YY logo is not distinctly clear).

Even with the MP series, if you don't know that Yonex MP (except for the MP100) have the muscle strip grommets, you wouldn't be able to spot the fakes. Look at the recent pics of the AT 900 !! Who would have thought?

I think Yonex has to do a lot of education to the public to teach them how to differentiate fakes from the real thing.


I'm not yonex but here is my opinion.
I think money can be better spent on (like what is yonex is doing i think):
- promoting badminton
- enforce honesty at distribution and dealer level.
- shorter product cycle

People only get fakes from non-authorized sellers like hawkers, acquaintances/frends/relatives, ebay, back of someone's car trunk, etc.
It is 99.999% impossible to get fakes from authorized yonex dealers. I dont see a store owner would want to risk his/her right to sell yonex by selling few fakes. It is very hard to get a yonex dealership. Also, if u have the receipt, u can get your money back from the authorized dealer that 'sold' you the fake anyway. If not, words will surely get out fast and that dealer will be cut off from yonex in no time. It is common sense, not a rocket science logic. It is similar to buying a new rolex watch, diamond ring or prescription drug from ebay or guy off the street, it's buyer beware because it is sold as is.

Ants, can you provide us with a photo comparison around the cone area. Yonex has the new 'control support cap (CSC)'. I wonder if the fake had copied that feature.

Thanks


What do you mean CSC? The cone of the fake is the same with the original. they copied that as well.

csc is yonex fancy name for the new cone shape.

FWIW, i saw a AT700 fake today.

they have copied the AT cone, as well as the bottom cap fairly well. the cone is not distinguishable, the bottom cap will need some close A/B comparision to find the difference.

the paint job isn't as good as the original one though, they might have skipped some shading details on it. the serial number gives away the fakeness right away though.

the counterfeiters are certainly getting more and more sophisticated.

FWIW, i saw a AT700 fake today.

they have copied the AT cone, as well as the bottom cap fairly well. the cone is not distinguishable, the bottom cap will need some close A/B comparision to find the difference.

the paint job isn't as good as the original one though, they might have skipped some shading details on it. the serial number gives away the fakeness right away though.

the counterfeiters are certainly getting more and more sophisticated.

Yup, you are right , but so far they can't copy the weight distribution of the racket and the racket's performance.

Yup, you are right , but so far they can't copy the weight distribution of the racket and the racket's performance.
true, but that's not what attract buyers. it is the cheap price and the illusion that a racket that looks like the real one may perform like the real one.

Ants,

either yonex is inconsistant or your info is wrong.
In the close up of the shafts you say on the real racket the "d" in defensive touches the boarder. On all the pictures in the offical yonex literature, as well as on my racket which was bought from a reputable dealer days after the offical release in japan, the "d" in defensive does NOT touch the boarder.

Ants,

either yonex is inconsistant or your info is wrong.
In the close up of the shafts you say on the real racket the "d" in defensive touches the boarder. On all the pictures in the offical yonex literature, as well as on my racket which was bought from a reputable dealer days after the offical release in japan, the "d" in defensive does NOT touch the boarder.


well you see the picture i posted.

I hope the fake manufacturers don't stumble onto this forum and see the Serial Number thread. If they modify the fake serials to conform to the trend, then that'll really make it difficult to weed them out.


-dave

I hope the fake manufacturers don't stumble onto this forum and see the Serial Number thread. If they modify the fake serials to conform to the trend, then that'll really make it difficult to weed them out.


-dave

I'm sure the Fakes manufacturer knows about the serial numbers. Just that at the moment they don't know how to fake the engraved numbers.

It is a matter of investing money in a laser engraver. :D

I'm sure the Fakes manufacturer knows about the serial numbers. Just that at the moment they don't know how to fake the engraved numbers.

hey ants,

can u try spinning the shaft of the fake racquet in between the tip of ur thumb and middle finger?? I've gone through two fake racquets before (MP100 and Ti10) and they are very bumpy when you spin them. All high end Yonex racquets that I've experimented are perfectly round so when you spin the racquet, it doesn't rock back and forth. Thanx!

not a reliable guide.
drawing conclusion from 2 fakes is insufficient

The only difference in comparing the fakes and the original , is the weight , grommets , balance, engraved serial numbers and also the sticker.. Cosmetic wise is very hard to see because is almost identical.

not a reliable guide.
drawing conclusion from 2 fakes is insufficient

but surely you'd expect the build quality of the fakes to be not up to stratch, therefore likely to have uneven shaft, whereas the real one "should" have a smooth shaft?

no, fakes come from numerous manufacturers. Buyers dont know who really make them.

no, fakes come from numerous manufacturers. Buyers dont know who really make them.

Yup , some from Taiwan and Some from China. I think they are few manufacturers that is making the fakes. Some factories make a better qualify fakes than others. Some say taiwan made is nicer some say china made is nicer. So from my opinion, there maybe many sources of fakes in these 2 countries.

A suggestion to the fake manufacturers, make your own brand called "Generic" version. Like the drug store in US, you can get a "generic" drug, or a "brand" name drug.

Do not get me wrong, "generic" does not mean fake, it simply implies the quality is close or similar to the name brand but the price is cheaper. Actually, I was surprised to find out few of my friends who are pharmacists recommend "generic" because it makes little to no difference compared to the name brand.

With this "Generic" racquets, it is win-win situation for everyone. To manufacturers, they can pay loyalty fees to Yonex for using its technologies and avoid jail time. For dealers, they can sell one more brand. For consumers, they can choose between 2 brands. Just my 2 cents....:)

Alan

A suggestion to the fake manufacturers, make your own brand called "Generic" version. Like the drug store in US, you can get a "generic" drug, or a "brand" name drug.

Do not get me wrong, "generic" does not mean fake, it simply implies the quality is close or similar to the name brand but the price is cheaper. Actually, I was surprised to find out few of my friends who are pharmacists recommend "generic" because it makes little to no difference compared to the name brand.

With this "Generic" racquets, it is win-win situation for everyone. To manufacturers, they can pay loyalty fees to Yonex for using its technologies and avoid jail time. For dealers, they can sell one more brand. For consumers, they can choose between 2 brands. Just my 2 cents....:)

Alan

Wrong.
Rackets arent the same as making medicine where in america, no error (or difference) is allowed. Generic drug makers get the exact chemical makeup of the drugs thru licensing. Generic drugs are REGULATED. FAKE RACKETS AREN'T. Generic drugs exist because of gov't policy, not because drugs company is nice. No one beside yonex knows the exact recipe of each yonex racket. The internal T joint is patented and not for sale. So the only things that the faker can copy is racket shape and paint color, things they can fool buyer's eyes. Even rolex watches where all the mechanical components can be easily dissembled and identifed, no one yet had made an exact copy of rolex and sell for less.

more example.
margarine is man's copy of butter, actually claimed to be better than butter (vegetable oil base).

facts:
- real butter taste better than margarine in raw and in baking
- real butter is less harmful than margarine even when margarine is vegetable oil based and butter is animal saturated fat.
- if margarine is under fda as generic drug, it wont pass the first level of fda

since fake racket doesnt kill people, it is not regulated :rolleyes:

No, i'm not a pharmacist :p

Exactly, Companies like Yonex will not issue any license or so to any fake company to let them to make identical ones (fakes). Imagine an agent of a fake racquet company goes to Yonex's office and tell them "I would like to copy your racquets, and sell it for profit." Do you think Yonex will let them do it?

Think Again.

Want To bump THis cause important InfomatioN!! dont get fool~

What do you guys think of this AT800 on Ebay. Seller states they're SP, but he hasn't sold any racquets prior to this as I can see...it's a bit iffy. none of his other items come to even near the price range.

HERE (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2919&item=3684176071&rd=1)

He's got other items too. He's selling both the OF and DF...should or souldn't buy? I really want the AT800...sigh...the JP version's so expensive...

http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/fb/43/75_1.JPG

If you look at the closeup of the serial - I suspect that the shiny piece in the right is the Yonex sticker that usually covers up the serial number (proving the racquet is a fake)...

Any suggestions?

Posted by bluejeff in here: http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16437:
I think you are thinking too much.

Sunrise probably didn't know where to put the sticker on , so they chose the cone area, which is the area for serial numbers, which is the area that normal people don't look at frequently.

Trying to spot fakes is a good thing, but if people tend to think everything is fake unless you can prove it is genuine is just overkill. Guys, please relax.
(No, I am not saying you should be careless, but not to think that everything that has a sticker on the cone is fake. I have many rackets from Taiwan that has stickers on the serial numbers area, and they are genuine. It's just something that Yonex didn't think it would be used to prove the racket is genuine. Please be fair and use your heads more, guys. :))

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemp88lover
I have a mp 88 and the serial number(on the cone) is covered by the Sunrise sticker. I do not think this is fake, do you?:confused: Everything else is so "original". I think my mp88 is a real yonex mp 88. But then again, why is the serial number covered? I am very curious to know the truth. My mp 88 is the new version(blue). My old mp 88 broke so I bought a new one. I was also very skeptical when I saw that the serial number was covered by the Sunrise sticker at first, but I did not want to wait any longer being "racquetless", so I bought it. The serial number on the shaft can be clearly seen. Everything else is in order except that the serial number on the cone is covered by the Sunrise sticker. Could anyone advise me on this?:(


He says that yonex probably did not know where to place the sunrise sticker so they placed it over the serial number as they thought most people would not look there. I think that this is true. So I think that the armortec 800 defensive in the picture is a original one.

Also in this thread posted by ants:
The real one.. at the zero in the middle there is green and red. The fake one REd only. If you see the Defence word.. the letter D connects to the dark green.. when the fake the letter D have some space.
Attached Imageshttp://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=3712&stc=1 http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=3713&stc=1



I think it is real. You need not worry. :p

http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/fb/43/75_1.JPG

If you look at the closeup of the serial - I suspect that the shiny piece in the right is the Yonex sticker that usually covers up the serial number (proving the racquet is a fake)...

Any suggestions?

Yours is the real thing.. dont worry about it. You can try to peel of the seal and the silver part will stick on the cone. Feel the serial number on the shaft .. you can feel the laser etched number.

Yours is the real thing.. dont worry about it. You can try to peel of the seal and the silver part will stick on the cone. Feel the serial number on the shaft .. you can feel the laser etched number.I am glad anthony agrees with me.:p

By the way, when you say the serial number is laser etched, it means that the number is not printed on and that the serial number cannot be scratched off, right?;)

The left one is fake..

See the difference of the grommets.. suprisingly the fake also have the extra grommets on the 10 and 2 oclock.



after lengthy reading all the past submitions in this thread i come to understand that there is an issue whether the cosmetics of both the fakes and original yonex racquets are consistant.

in turn it is my opinion that cosmetics are not the best indicators to determine whether it is genuine or fake. in the picture provided by ants, it is clear that all single groments used in the production of the fake are the basic round head groments. this is as compared to the rectangular head single groments found on the original yonex armortec series. the logical explanation could be that the unusual shaped groments used by yonex is not (yet) mass produced for the existing market and thus the producers of the fakes are having a tough time obtaining them. it may also be too costly for the fakes to produce these abnormally shaped groments so the more conventional and cost effective groments are used instead.

in my experience i have found that groments have so far been a good indicator for determining the genuinity of these new breed of racquets. the same can be said of the MP series where the 'Y' shaped single groments were employed by yonex to better fit the muscle power curves of the frame.
this observation of groments held true not only on 'exact' immitation of yonex mp and armortec series but also on 'immitation models' by brands such as apacs, pro ace, fleet, ashaway and etc.

by saying so, i do however stress that future availability of such groments to the market as a whole may cause redundancy in the groments role as a reliable indicator, as well as bridge the gap between the fakes and the real mcoy. i suppose this is something yonex themselves should look into.

adios

hey for that racket~~~ i saw it on ebay too~~~ who wants share half the price with me and letz exam together if it is a fake or real~~~ who wants to do that~~~ crazy!!!

after reading this thread, i think i am in deep trouble now. I have just been offered by a fren for AT700 at RM320.00 which is equivalent to USD85.00. I have not seen the actual racket yet but from the price alone, do you guys think that it is fake? Also, after going through all the posts, none is mentioned about the difference between real and fake AT700.

PLease help.......

HI, there!
I know the pic is not good enough but can anyone tell me is this AT-700 fake or not. I bought it for really low price.
Thanks!

http://www.geocities.com/andrej_chiwo/armortec700.jpg

I think it's a fake since there is no CSC on it. (the fat cone)

By the way, this is the thread for AT800, not AT700, please be careful next time.

I think it's a fake since there is no CSC on it. (the fat cone)

By the way, this is the thread for AT800, not AT700, please be careful next time.Also, that's not a stock Yonex grip, is it?

Also, that's not a stock Yonex grip, is it?
Yeah, I was just too lazy to type all out. Just the CSC cone is good enough. :p

found this on the yonex oz webpage. It's basically telling people what to look for in fake vs real. The website also has a warning that they will prosecute 'illegal' racquets.

http://www.yonex.com.au/images/Measuresforcounterfeitproducts1.jpg

found this on the yonex oz webpage. It's basically telling people what to look for in fake vs real. The website also has a warning that they will prosecute 'illegal' racquets.



Do 'illegal' racquets have to go to jail' :confused: :D

Just kidding :p , thx for the pic.

So where Page 1? They seems to have forgotten to include Page 1 of the first 4 features to look for :D

Seems that the fakes are getting in with the CH designation. Maybe they will offer a reward for information leading to the arrests of the fake sellers.

i know a fake seller and i have proof. i will post in new thread with pics.

i know a fake seller and i have proof. i will post in new thread with pics.

Wow, pics of fake sellers? :eek: Might get yonex to support this site ;)

what i meant is that i have pics of the fake racquet that the seller sells...

If the fake seller is in China or areas that China owns (like HK), it is just too hard to have Yonex to catch them .... :(

please help me distinguish if its real or fake at800 THANKS

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3693434580&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

please help me distinguish if its real or fake at800 THANKS

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3693434580&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
You should read this thread:
http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13655

You should read this thread:
http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13655

damn.... i reed in this forum that sportsinternational was a fake raquet dealer and I just won one of his auction !!! still... I havent paid yet... What should I do ???? Do anyone that did buy raquet from him tell me if its genuine or not??? IF ITS FAKE, does those imitation are worth playing with are they actually that bad? do they have the same technology and quality as the genuine ??? someone help me !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...me=STRK:MEWA:IT

Ants, can you do me a favor? :)

Can you post a pic of the AT800's cone with the C.S.C cone at the serial numbers's side??

Thanks :)

just got myself a UK Armortec 800OF everything looks good on it but just wanna make sure its legit (after reading theres all these fakes around)

is it normal for a UK racket not to have that PBSI sticker and the shiny reflective sticker??? (those are for other countrys rackets right??)

any1 have good pics to campare??
as this thread only seems to have DE rackets pics

hi smilie
dont worry because my 800OF doesn't have the PBSI sticker or the shiny sicker too. i know that is not fake because i buy it from the australian agent for yonex.
The most important thing is that it has the 7 digit coding and the correct date of manufacturing date then you are safe, because if the shop is selling fakes they would be sued by yonex. if you really want a picture then i can send you one.
from allan
just got myself a UK Armortec 800OF everything looks good on it but just wanna make sure its legit (after reading theres all these fakes around)

is it normal for a UK racket not to have that PBSI sticker and the shiny reflective sticker??? (those are for other countrys rackets right??)

any1 have good pics to campare??
as this thread only seems to have DE rackets pics

thanks
my serial code and date looks alright (5028800 020743UK)
i did thought it was a legit as i did brought it via a online shop
and they do look quite legit
but it was the 1st time buying from them
and hearing about all these fakes and as why i didnt have those 2 stickers
got me confused

Ants, can you do me a favor? :)

Can you post a pic of the AT800's cone with the C.S.C cone at the serial numbers's side??

Thanks :)


The original or the fake? Fake one i dont have the racket with me anymore..

Anyway i've posted both pics at the start of this thread.. you can see it there.

The original or the fake? Fake one i dont have the racket with me anymore..

Anyway i've posted both pics at the start of this thread.. you can see it there.
Oh, it's ok, I don't need it anymore, I was able to grab one from local and see it myself.

Thanks. :)

Oh, it's ok, I don't need it anymore, I was able to grab one from local and see it myself.

Thanks. :)


Ok... try to hit some shuttles with the fake one.. you can feel the difference.

I would like to know from the experts here to please tell if my racquet is fake or genuine. It has serial numbers 5878721 on the shaft and 221254TH on the cap and c.s.cap is written on the shaft along with other specificationshttp://70.84.2.20/forums/C:\Documents and Settings\Sreekanth\Desktop\Racquet Pictures\Racquet 008.jpg

where/whom did you buy it from ???

I would like to know from the experts here to please tell if my racquet is fake or genuine. It has serial numbers 5878721 on the shaft and 221254TH on the cap and c.s.cap is written on the shaft along with other specificationshttp://70.84.2.20/forums/C:\Documents and Settings\Sreekanth\Desktop\Racquet Pictures\Racquet 008.jpg

I bought it on e-bay, The shipment came from Thailand.
The price is $135 + $20 (Shipping)
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-YONEX-ARMORTEC-800-OF-Badminton-Racquet-BLACK-HAWK_W0QQitemZ7225275749QQcategoryZ79787QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Please let me know if you can determine if its a fake or genuine.

Thank You very much !

Sumai03 sells genuine racquet. I bought an NS8000 from him recently. You're correct he ships from Thailand.
Just hope he doesn't change his mind and start selling fake ones :)

Thanks Xuser (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=168) vbmenu_register("postmenu_352490", true); ! It makes me feel better now.

Hi everybody, I am new in this forum but I would like to add also that Fake Yonex rackets are very temptecious to buy, since it is very cheap (cost me only about US$17) here in Surabaya-Indonesia, and most of the shop sell both real and fakes one. I was curious how the fake felt like, and after I tried it, my conclusion is that it is not a bad racket afterall...I was quite impressed. I could also do a wicked powerful smash with those Fake Nanospeed 8000 :)...:p

hi ants,

i thought u mention the pics above are the comparison between original OF and fake DE....but the shafts of both racquets have same color??!!
anywaz, the fake are catching up real fast, or even surpass Yonex itself...... remember the AT900 :p

vc

Hehe..I got a fake AT900,about 4 years old,which means about 3 years before the real one's out,when i was still playing around with badminton.But..the colour is different.It's yellow.:D.No pic for now..