Singles Racquet Suggestions?

[fishmilk]

Some suggestions for racquets please, I have the Armortech 500, I'm really satisfied with it, but it's more of a double's racquet in my opinion. I'd like something with a little more kick for singles games. Control is ULTRA important, i would say net plays are my forte so it must have good control. Suggestions please!

[Brave_Turtle]

If you don't mind about the money: MP99

If you want something a bit cheaper: Cab30MS

[bluejeff]

If you don't mind about the money: MP99

If you want something a bit cheaper: Cab30MS
100% agree :)
Or if you could find, ISO-TIS-SX will also be a good choice (third choice :p)

[neoanderson777]

If you don't mind about the money: MP99

If you want something a bit cheaper: Cab30MS
i'm not totally agree to the fact shown above.
i mean it totally depends on the feeling for me
i personally would prefer cab30ms because of its feeling and i would recommend you to try out the racquets u are looking for and decide thn on

hehe
for me racquets talks to me if they are suitable for me

bust wishes
good luck

[FEND.]

Any racquet is fine. As long as you're comfortable with it, and enjoy playing it, then it should be fine. Go demo some racquets out first. See what you feel is comfy in your hands & budget.

My .5 cents
~Cheers

[TheGr8Two]

Ti 10....if you can get still one that is.

[fishmilk]

I'm sure I can get a Ti-10 if I wanted, but how is the control? And how does Ti-10 stack up against the other top of the line models? Like, Amortech 700 (if I get 700, definitely 4U) or MP100, or mb even Armotech 800DE?

[LazyBuddy]

Some suggestions for racquets please, I have the Armortech 500, I'm really satisfied with it, but it's more of a double's racquet in my opinion. I'd like something with a little more kick for singles games. Control is ULTRA important, i would say net plays are my forte so it must have good control. Suggestions please!

I am a bit confused...

Maybe u should state what "feature(s)" the At500 lacks of, but u want to have. Also, always remember skill is the #1 factor. ;)

[ttktom]

on a tight budget: Inflight XP 50

no money worries: MP 100

[tchandra]

If you like the Armortec 500, you may want to check out the Armortec 700.
I am predominantly a singles player and was using Ti-10 and TiS-SX.
When my Ti-10 broke, i could not find a replacement for it (in the US, both of my rackets are now out of production) - tried out the AT700 - liked it, bought it.
Now it has become my primary racket for singles and doubles play. A lot of people using the MP series have found it difficult to adjust to the AT series. But if you are comfy with the AT500, you may find the AT700 perfect for the extra kick that you are looking for.
my 2c
Tarun

[fishmilk]

I am a bit confused...

Maybe u should state what "feature(s)" the At500 lacks of, but u want to have. Also, always remember skill is the #1 factor. ;)
Well AT500 is great, it doesn't really lack anything, it doesn't excel in anything either..


If you like the Armortec 500, you may want to check out the Armortec 700.
I am predominantly a singles player and was using Ti-10 and TiS-SX.
When my Ti-10 broke, i could not find a replacement for it (in the US, both of my rackets are now out of production) - tried out the AT700 - liked it, bought it.
Now it has become my primary racket for singles and doubles play. A lot of people using the MP series have found it difficult to adjust to the AT series. But if you are comfy with the AT500, you may find the AT700 perfect for the extra kick that you are looking for.
my 2c
Tarun
That's some great advice thanks, and I think AT700 IS a better idea than Ti-10. I can still buy Ti-10 at the moment, but that could change. Also MP100 was suggested earlier, how does MP100 stack against AT700? And would it be hard for an AT player to adjust to MP? or is it just MP to AT that's hard?

[cooler]

fishmilk, imo, a very good singles racket is the iso900/TiSP SR. It is the racket that Gong Zhichao use to win her olympic gold medal over camilla martin's ti-10. :) That racket was used by other several chinese WS players at one time as well but i forgot their names. If i remember right, cheung's coach also used ISO900 SR at one time too. I personally has an iso900 SR. Someone here before had mention that Roslin (MS) uses TiSP SR and Minarti (WD/XD)uses ISO900 ?? I dunno any current top players who use AT500.

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4698&highlight=iso900

[fishmilk]

i'm sure the ISO 900 is an amazing racquet. I have a friend who is AMAZING, and it was his favorite racquet. Then within 2 months he broke all 3 that he owned. 2 in one tournament. Even if durability was not the question, I doubt I could find one in Toronto since he has tried before me and failed miserably, I don't see it on any website other than the korean Yonex website, and even there it has no picture. Btw, my friend ended up switching to the Ti-10 and said it was heavier and his arm is starting to hurt from it. I would still really like a comparison of Ti-10, MP100, and AT700. Please help!

[cooler]

if your friend is amazing and ti-10 hurts his arm, are you 'super duper' amazing enough to go for ti-10, AT700, MP100?

[fishmilk]

damn you reply fast...anyway I'd say I'm stronger than him, doesn't mean I can beat him, but stronger... and when switching to ANY racquet, you will have to adjust somewhat, major or minor adjustment...

[Pecheur]

damn you reply fast...

This is why I expect cooler to soon overtake Cheung and then mount his final assault on kwun's commanding lead to take the title of most prolific poster on this forum ;)

[fishmilk]

i've heard too much too make a decision. I was considering the MP100 a bit more than the rest, simply because of it's stock compared to Ti-10, I also heard it's more durable than AT700. Then people tell me it's not all that powerful. And some people said MP100 has amazing power. I am so mixed.. help plz plz plz :confused:

[Brave_Turtle]

At700, Mp100 and Ti-10 all have capacity to deliver strong smashes. What people say only rely on their experience from the racquet and that doesn't mean it will imply to you.

The best thing to do would be to tryout those racquet, results can surprise you. For comparison, there are tons of thread that compares those 3 types of racquet and search function will be very helpful.

Oh yeah and from the description you wanted from a racquet, Mp99 fits pretty well in it but everythign will depend on you.

[cooler]

This is why I expect cooler to soon overtake Cheung and then mount his final assault on kwun's commanding lead to take the title of most prolific poster on this forum ;)

LOL, am not :D I'm only trying to stay one step ahead this Lazybuddy guy ;)

[fishmilk]

not really into the 99, i know it's a great racquet way up there with the 3 of them, but it doesn't have the "feel" i need...it's pretty hard for me to get a hold of MP100, i need the most input about it... also I don't feel that the MP99 can do much that my AT500 can't, maybe an extra little power, but not enought to spend a LOT of extra money on...however i think AT700, MP100 or Ti-10 might...I just need some info first...

[TheGr8Two]

not really into the 99, i know it's a great racquet way up there with the 3 of them, but it doesn't have the "feel" i need...it's pretty hard for me to get a hold of MP100, i need the most input about it... also I don't feel that the MP99 can do much that my AT500 can't, maybe an extra little power, but not enought to spend a LOT of extra money on...however i think AT700, MP100 or Ti-10 might...I just need some info first...
Go to the review site [http://www.badmintonreview.com/] and you can get a lot of feedback, since these are very popular rackets.

MP100 should have the extra "oopmh" that you need (power). But beware that it is quite fragile. I haven't tried it, but from the reviews, I would definitely recommend the Ti 10 over it. And of course I have used Ti 10 in games.

AT700 is still a doubles racket; I doubt if you will want that.

[cooler]

not really into the 99, i know it's a great racquet way up there with the 3 of them, but it doesn't have the "feel" i need...it's pretty hard for me to get a hold of MP100, i need the most input about it... also I don't feel that the MP99 can do much that my AT500 can't, maybe an extra little power, but not enought to spend a LOT of extra money on...however i think AT700, MP100 or Ti-10 might...I just need some info first...

fishmilk, seem to me u have already set your mind on AT700, ti-10 and Mp100. The thread title is misleading because we thot u were asking WHAT IS A GOOD SINGLES RACQUET. There are plenty of very good racquets for MS but you wouldnt listen.

[New_Guy04]

for about an year, my main racket was the at 500 4ug4, but these few weeks, i'm trying to convert into a different racket. at first, i thought at 500 was awesome, but only in doubles. singles, not reallly, since i can't control drops or clears very well with them.... i would recommend the iso ti sp (although it seems u want the mp 100. at 700, or the ti 10). i'm using my dad's iso ti sp ss these days, and i find it has much more control and the power doesn't lack at all. i can't recommend anymore other rackets since i haven't tried much.


it seems that we both use the at 500 and feel the same way, so i think a racket that suits me can also suit u pretty resonably. i tried all three rackets (mp 100, at 700, and ti 10) a couple of times, although for only a few minutes. i'll tell u some feedbacks and my prefered choice of rackets out of these three.

at 700- i tried this racket, and i find it is basically the same feeling as the at 500, but it's not very powerful for underhand clears, etc. i think there was a problem in the string tension of the racket i used, but i tried three different at 700 from my friends, and all of them showed that there was not much power. it feels like the string-bed was a trampelene (i dun know how to spell it, sorry:D ), and it doesn't feel all that explosive. control is ok, but not any better than the at 500. i wouldn't recommend it, but if buy it, make sure u string it with a high tension of about 23-25 lbs.

mp 100- this is my favorite out of the three. it has about an equal power as the ti 10. this racket feels very similar to the mp 99, but i find the mp 99 doesn't have much control as it is too WHIPPY for me. the mp 100 is the same as the mp 99, except it isn't whippy, which gives more control. i would recommend this racket to a person who uses an at 500 and can't find control.

ti 10- i've only had the chance to make two underhand clears with this racket, but here's what i think. the control is pretty similar to the at 500, the same feeling ( if u know what i mean). the power is about equal to the mp 100. not very SPECIAL.

in conclusion,

POWER
Mp 100=Ti 10>At 700

CONTROL
Mp 100>Ti 10=At 700.

so, if u want a singles racket, i recommend the mp 100.:)

[fishmilk]

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13212&

i was pretty convinced after reading this that the MP100 isn't THAT fragile, just you hear more of YONEX's fragility from it since it's such a popular racquet.

Well i am interested MORE in Yonex's with the Isometric Head Shape, I've really never used anything else except the short while when I was n00by and used a Carlton Airblade Attack Ti. I think at the moment my choice would be the MP100, but if anyone has other suggestions I would like to hear it just as much...please don't get the wrong idea =)

[TheGr8Two]

I am using Black Knight Power Channel 68, and it has a considerably larger sweetspot than the Yonex's ISO frame used in MP/Ti/ISO series. And the power on this is awesome; it smashes as hard or harder than Ti 10 in my experience(of course, it is subjective, I don't have a radar to test the shuttle speed ;) ). And it is extra long(longer than Yonex's long length) which explain s why it's so powerful. The stringing tension is recommended for up to 24 lbs, so I have no worries about getting it strung at 24 lbs if I want, unlike the Ti 10 and MP100(they're rated for up to 22lbs) (currently using the factory string, which is at a decent tension, although not as tight as I would like, I'm still saving up some money for restringing later). Also have a friend using Power Channel 67, which is the same as mine except that it is little bit shorter; same as Yonex's long. The paint job is quite similar as well, but it looks better.

Another racket I'd like to get is the Pointfore 5500ti. Seems like it is very powerful as well, and is light too. Demoed it and found it impressive in every way, but it is oval, although I don't mind using oval, as I still occasionally use Cab 7 which is oval anyway.

Finally, I would also like to add the Ti 7 (old version) which I had for 4 years until it broke in a clash a few months ago. Don't know how the new one compares, but Ti 7 is very balanced racket too, although it might take some getting used to the head lightness.

Edit: Forgot to mention AT800 Defense version. This thing is excellent as well, as my friend has it and i took a few shots. Comfortable immediately, but I can't afford one myself, nor do I wish to spend so much anyway :) You might one to check into that.

[fishmilk]

Generally speaking Ti-10 should be more durable than the MP100 though right?

[bluejeff]

Generally speaking Ti-10 should be more durable than the MP100 though right?
Not really, if you are thinking about racquet clashes, nothing is durable.

[TrunkZ69]

I say just go demo the three rackets you want the most. The thread will become misleading after so many posts. A lot of it is from PP. It could be someone weaker than you and not able to use a racket naysaying a racket, while it could be someone stronger than you praising a racket you aren't ready for.

and as for racket durability, i don't you should factor that in too much. Most of the new yonex rackets have pretty much the same durablity. People get into a huge clash or multiple light clashes and say the racket isn't durable. If you read back 3-4 years ago, many people complained about the ti-10 being fragile. 1-2 years ago the mp100 was fragile. Now the at-700 is considered fragile.

[fishmilk]

That's a lot of good advice... thanks a lot everyone... I wish I could demo these racquets too, but it's a little hard... I think for now I will probably go with the MP100. My reasoning is due to these factors in order of importance:

Stock of this racquet. MP100's are everywhere, if I get attached to the Ti-10 and it breaks and I can't find another one, that will suck.

Isometric Headshape. I have grown pretty used to the Isometric Headshape, I don't think I could get used to the traditional racquets that easily or at all.

Control factor. My strongest plays are net plays. MP100 gives enough of this control without sacrificing power.

Power. I am convinced that MP100 has power as long as you know how to use it. A lot of beginners buy this racquet expecting it to win the game for them...That's probably where the negative comments mostly come from. I've heard a lot of people saying it took them a LONG time to appreciate how great the MP100 truly is.

I have heard that the MP100 is a lot more durable than people claim, and also since this racquet will be mainly for doubles, it shouldn't be much of a problem.

This is not much of a factor, but it is so bright red. It looks amazingly agressive. It sort of inspires me just looking at it. Has this aura...can't explain it. Looks killer and makes me want to play killer.

The only question left is 2U or 3U? And thanks again for all those who have brought me up to this point...

[TheGr8Two]

I've talked to a friend and he said that his MP100 cracked after a shot. Not a clash. And strung at only 20lbs. The strung broke, and it is internally damaged. It was a 2U G5 SP version. It is still in one piece, but can't be restrung because of the crack. He now keeps as a decoration, and now uses AT 800 DF :)

[silentlight]

not really into the 99, i know it's a great racquet way up there with the 3 of them, but it doesn't have the "feel" i need...it's pretty hard for me to get a hold of MP100, i need the most input about it... also I don't feel that the MP99 can do much that my AT500 can't, maybe an extra little power, but not enought to spend a LOT of extra money on...however i think AT700, MP100 or Ti-10 might...I just need some info first...

Actually, you'll find that the at500 is more powerful than the mp99 due to its head-heaviness. The mp99's even balance makes it more maneuverable and better in control relative to the at500. Not that it matters since the mp99 wasn't even one of your choices.

One thing's for sure, the mp100 has better control than the at500. If you're playing mainly singles though, the at700 might be even more suitable than the mp100. The ti10 shouldn't be bad for singles either, the last time I tried it, it felt relatively flexible and head heavy which IMO is what you want in a singles racquet.

[ymerej]

Hi everyone, I switched to the AT500 for singles from previously using a MP99 for doubles. I found that the AT500 3U was much better for me, I had the control and stability which I found lacking in the MP99. The only thing was the AT500 was not as swift due to the head heavyness. I found that the MP99 smashed a little harder but it wasnt a problem for me in singles as smashing isnt my most used shot as compared to doubles. I found the AT500 a great racket, i have tried the AT700 but found that it was a little too stiff and unforgiving with a small sweet spot. But to each his own. Cheers

[fishmilk]

Hi everyone, I switched to the AT500 for singles from previously using a MP99 for doubles. I found that the AT500 3U was much better for me, I had the control and stability which I found lacking in the MP99. The only thing was the AT500 was not as swift due to the head heavyness. I found that the MP99 smashed a little harder but it wasnt a problem for me in singles as smashing isnt my most used shot as compared to doubles. I found the AT500 a great racket, i have tried the AT700 but found that it was a little too stiff and unforgiving with a small sweet spot. But to each his own. Cheers

I see... my experience is that the MP99 is a little flexier and with a much bigger sweet spot. It's also a bit more manuverable.

AT500 could smash as hard but it was a bit harder to find it's sweet spot.

I like the AT700 the most though, I love its monstrous power, light weight and good control.

[Blue_Smash]

I have tried out the mp 100 and at 700 and I prefer the at-700.
It is light and delivers fast, powerful smashes-although it may take you some time to adjust to the smaller sweet spot(which is confusing me since it has an isometric head shape).
Well anyways the AT-700 is my main racket for both doubles and singles.:D

[GunBlade008]

I've used both AT500 and AT700. AT500 has great feel and whatnot, lil too flexible for me. AT700, same great feel, stiffer shaft, gives me overall more power. Both of them slow my defence down tho :o