View Full Version : OEM versus fake quizes
cooler
07-15-2004, 12:50 AM
Ok, we have seen photos of real and fakes from other threads. Time to test your on the spot identification skill, just like if you've been offered to some good deals unexpectingly where u have to decide on the spot, without the advantage of having real one(s) beside u to compare with.
To start, i'm attaching 3 photos of yonex MP bags, bag #1, #2, #3, plus two photos of them together, showing their each ends.
OK, which bag is real and/or fake? They could be all reals or all fakes or combination of. Remeber to take into account of different regions may add variation. :p Just like a potential real situation, u see this deal and u have to decide on the spot.
Sorry, no prize for this quiz :D
PS: all plural used or lack of could be there to add confusion (ie, don't read too deep into my grammatical skill) ;)
bluejeff
07-15-2004, 01:29 AM
Let me guess, #1 and #2 are real ones, and only the #3 is the fake one.
(However, #2 seems a little shaky to me.....:p)
Oh, wait, #2 is weird, that "R" shouldn't be in middle.
So, I will just say only the First one is real :)
carlol
07-15-2004, 02:06 AM
normally, id say that 1 is fake, 2 & 3 are real, but recently, i've seen a few TH rackets, bought from bangkok, the latest that i can remember being an at500 and mp99, come with the #1 type of bags. The rackets look like they're real, with laser etched Serial #s, the musclepower grommets for the mp99.
So i told myself that TH, can owe their riduculously low prices to the poorer quality of bags, aside from the other rumor that TH rackets dont have warranty. I used to include bag evaluation in fake identification, but recently, ive decided to take the bags out of the equation... anyway, in most stores here in the philippines, the displayed rackets dont come displayed with their bags.
prophet
07-15-2004, 02:58 AM
my guess: all real, different bags for different regions.
jug8man
07-15-2004, 03:10 AM
bag #2 and #3 seems to be made from synthethic material. bag #1 seems to be made from 'canvas'. this is according to picture 5. picture 4 isnt so clear as i cant see what material of all the bags are made from.
my bet goes to # 1 real but #2 & 3 fake.
i'm going to go check it out first and i'll be back later to confirm.
cooler
07-15-2004, 09:08 AM
bag #2 and #3 seems to be made from synthethic material. bag #1 seems to be made from 'canvas'. this is according to picture 5. picture 4 isnt so clear as i cant see what material of all the bags are made from.
my bet goes to # 1 real but #2 & 3 fake.
i'm going to go check it out first and i'll be back later to confirm.
bag #1 is made from synthethic material as well.
jug8man
07-15-2004, 09:59 AM
i suppose they are all some type of synthethic material. but bag #2 & 3 are made from a shinier material. the kind of thin glossy leather that is normally used for making sofas. pvc maybe? donno, im not good with terms and exact names. :p
i dont know about canada but i've never seen a yonex bag (cover) made from that kind of material. at least not the upper end models.
so i still pick bag #1 as the only original. cause of the 'canvas' material. the zips are most probably mass produced goods and should be easily avaiable to other manufacturers so they shouldn't be a good indicator. hmm thats it i suppose.
LazyBuddy
07-15-2004, 12:14 PM
Why we spot the bags? I mean, as long as the racket is real and the price is good, it's a good deal, right? :D I can accept a good deal of racket, even without any bag.
Anyway, my guess is all 3 are real. :rolleyes:
cooler
07-15-2004, 12:54 PM
Why we spot the bags? I mean, as long as the racket is real and the price is good, it's a good deal, right? :D I can accept a good deal of racket, even without any bag.
Anyway, my guess is all 3 are real. :rolleyes:
the quiz is meant to test our generalize overall recognition ability and as for novelty fun. Yes it is not as practical as spotting rackets but there are tons of photos of various rackets around already. ie, no use quizzing the obvious or easy queries. Just like game shows, how many of those questions are really practical or meaninglessful? If one is good at it, he/she is good on all aspects of that topic, ON THE SPOT (like game show contestants or pop quiz from your teacher, without the benefit of having to go look or research), not just one key item like recognizing rackets.
prophet
07-15-2004, 02:30 PM
cooler, thks for PM, am I allowed another guess? (Won't post my guess unless u say ok ;) )
bluejeff
07-15-2004, 02:34 PM
the quiz is meant to test our generalize overall recognition ability and as for novelty fun. Yes it is not as practical as spotting rackets but there are tons of photos of various rackets around already. ie, no use quizzing the obvious or easy queries. Just like game shows, how many of those questions are really practical or meaninglessful? If one is good at it, he/she is good on all aspects of that topic, ON THE SPOT (like game show contestants or pop quiz from your teacher, without the benefit of having to go look or research), not just one key item like recognizing rackets.
Oh man, I am so excited :) (somewhat)
When are you planning to announce the answers?
LazyBuddy
07-15-2004, 03:15 PM
the quiz is meant to test our generalize overall recognition ability and as for novelty fun. Yes it is not as practical as spotting rackets but there are tons of photos of various rackets around already. ie, no use quizzing the obvious or easy queries. Just like game shows, how many of those questions are really practical or meaninglessful? If one is good at it, he/she is good on all aspects of that topic, ON THE SPOT (like game show contestants or pop quiz from your teacher, without the benefit of having to go look or research), not just one key item like recognizing rackets.
Lol... I was just kidding lah.. ;)
I really like this pop quiz idea. Just can't resist to make a joke about the bag. Sorry... ;)
Brave_Turtle
07-15-2004, 04:02 PM
1st has to be real for sure. Just hope Cooler doesn't come to us and tell us that all covers are fake!""!"! :eek:
Broken
07-15-2004, 04:24 PM
well, the case that came with my real MP-88 looks just like the 1st, so i'll say that's real
cooler
07-15-2004, 04:52 PM
cooler, thks for PM, am I allowed another guess? (Won't post my guess unless u say ok ;) )
LOL, anyone can make guesses :)
prophet
07-15-2004, 04:57 PM
ok, another guess. #2 (with YY imprint on the plastic buckle) is real, #1 and #3 are fake.
my guess: they are all real. ;)
charzord
07-15-2004, 05:41 PM
number two is the only real one!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
FZ10000
07-15-2004, 06:46 PM
I say 1 and 2 are real, 1 looks exactly like my case, and i think 2 might be a case that came from asia
Feng_MP-100
07-15-2004, 06:50 PM
dude! tell us the answer already! it's pointless to continue guessing like this... so stupid!:mad:
cooler
07-15-2004, 07:04 PM
dude! tell us the answer already! it's pointless to continue guessing like this... so stupid!:mad:
LOL, sorry for the delay. Quite busy at work due to many long lunches :o :)
Ok, the answer is:
bag #1: real
bag #2: fake
bag #3: fake
#2 and #3 are fakes for sure because they came with the fake rackets LOL
Also, the yonex logos on the bags are certainly not as sharp as the real yonex bag. However, the fake bags are well constructed and feel thicker than the real one :o
(No, the fakes were not mine, they belong to a person who bought them from HK and ask me to string them. This person thought he/she got a great deal because it costed only *cough cough* 75 CAD each. After I told him/her about it, he/she then went *cough cough choke choke*. :p ) He/she originally thought the rackets were real.
Feng_MP-100
07-15-2004, 07:14 PM
LOL, sorry for the delay. Quite busy at work due to many long lunches :o :)
Ok, the answer is:
bag #1: real
bag #2: fake
bag #3: fake
#2 and #3 are fakes for sure because they came with the fake rackets LOL
Also, the yonex logos on the bags are certainly not as sharp as the real yonex bag. However, the fake bags are well constructed and feel thicker than the real one :o
(No, the fakes were not mine, they belong to a person who bought them from HK and ask me to string them. This person thought he/she got a great deal because it costed only *cough cough* 75 CAD each. After I told him/her about it, he/she then went *cough cough choke choke*. :p ) He/she originally thought the rackets were real.
lmao...*cough cough choke choke*:D
Brave_Turtle
07-15-2004, 07:20 PM
AHHAHA I was Right!!
So proud of myself :p
LazyBuddy
07-15-2004, 07:40 PM
(No, the fakes were not mine, they belong to a person who bought them from HK and ask me to string them. This person thought he/she got a great deal because it costed only *cough cough* 75 CAD each. After I told him/her about it, he/she then went *cough cough choke choke*. :p ) He/she originally thought the rackets were real.
What rackets are these (well, fake of???) If that's something like AT800, MP99, MP100 (well, all expensive models I suspect), then from the price itself, we should immediately think "fake"! :D
Broken
07-15-2004, 08:06 PM
The one real one is a MusclePower case, right?
charzord
07-15-2004, 08:22 PM
awwwwwwwwww i was in such a hurry to guess i didnt see it was mp cases :p I remember tisp bag had that yonex logo on the buckle :cool:
prophet
07-15-2004, 08:27 PM
anyway, I thought the bag was not a good indicator of whether or not the racquet is fake. I mean you could still have a 'real' bag and a fake racquet, since a real bag doesn't cost much and many dealers have extra bags lying around which they give to regular customers for the asking or for a few bucks.
cooler
07-15-2004, 08:29 PM
feng, another reason i had delay posting until 24hr later the result is that this is an international forum. There are lot of other members either sleeping or working while you might be at home surfing ;)
cooler
07-15-2004, 08:37 PM
anyway, I thought the bag was not a good indicator of whether or not the racquet is fake. I mean you could still have a 'real' bag and a fake racquet, since a real bag doesn't cost much and many dealers have extra bags lying around which they give to regular customers for the asking or for a few bucks.
u r missing the point of a surprise pop quiz or question asked in game show or contest. The objective is give the correct answer, not why was asked or what purpose does it serve. :rolleyes:
ex. i know a nice jacket doesnt say much about a person. I'm only asking which jackets are real and fakes.
bluejeff
07-15-2004, 08:43 PM
LOL, sorry for the delay. Quite busy at work due to many long lunches :o :)
Ok, the answer is:
bag #1: real
bag #2: fake
bag #3: fake
#2 and #3 are fakes for sure because they came with the fake rackets LOL
Also, the yonex logos on the bags are certainly not as sharp as the real yonex bag. However, the fake bags are well constructed and feel thicker than the real one :o
(No, the fakes were not mine, they belong to a person who bought them from HK and ask me to string them. This person thought he/she got a great deal because it costed only *cough cough* 75 CAD each. After I told him/her about it, he/she then went *cough cough choke choke*. :p ) He/she originally thought the rackets were real.
I was right!! :cool: (No.1)
cooler
07-15-2004, 08:47 PM
I was right!! :cool: (No.1)
did you check your inventory? You had edited your post (I have seen your pre-edited post) :p
cooler
07-15-2004, 08:48 PM
The one real one is a MusclePower case, right?
here are them together again
cooler
07-15-2004, 08:53 PM
What rackets are these (well, fake of???) If that's something like AT800, MP99, MP100 (well, all expensive models I suspect), then from the price itself, we should immediately think "fake"! :D
they were mp99 and mp77 fakes
(those grommets were not pulled out by me, i actually pushed them in already)
bluejeff
07-15-2004, 09:50 PM
did you check your inventory? You had edited your post (I have seen your pre-edited post) :p
I wasn't looking very hard (I didn't see the first two pics because of the slow loading), then after I posted my initial post, I was able to see more pics on the top :)
Nah, I don't need to see my inventory, I have seen enough of fakes myself :cool:
(plus that "registered" mark was clear enough; "R" should be in either top or bottom, but never in middle)
cooler
07-15-2004, 10:27 PM
ok, now people know what i'm getting at, here is another quiz. It's easier because one mp99 is a fake, which one? No checking your racquet(s):D
prophet
07-15-2004, 10:32 PM
u r missing the point of a surprise pop quiz or question asked in game show or contest. The objective is give the correct answer, not why was asked or what purpose does it serve. :rolleyes:
ex. i know a nice jacket doesnt say much about a person. I'm only asking which jackets are real and fakes.
Uh, cooler, I was making a general comment about fakes in general, not about this thread. If you noticed, I did respect the thread and I did treat it as a fun pop quiz; I even checked with you if it was ok to guess twice. By saying I missed the point or missed the objective, you didn't treat me with the same respect and I'm disappointed.
Muteki
07-15-2004, 11:49 PM
ok, now people know what i'm getting at, here is another quiz. It's easier because one mp99 is a fake, which one? No checking your racquet(s):D
I don't own a MP99, so I wouldn't know, but the top one looks fake.
Feng_MP-100
07-15-2004, 11:57 PM
ok, now people know what i'm getting at, here is another quiz. It's easier because one mp99 is a fake, which one? No checking your racquet(s):D
One on top is REAL!!!:D I WIN I WIN~
Wai Shing
07-16-2004, 12:00 AM
Top one is real, bottom is fake.
I always recognize my precious MP99 :p
unless mine is a fake haha
Muteki
07-16-2004, 12:14 AM
Yeah, I guess you guys might be right...the font of the bottom one looks unusual. Initially I find the top one somewhat blurry. Oh well...
bambini
07-16-2004, 01:03 AM
i go with the majority...top one is real.
Yipom
07-16-2004, 01:42 AM
If Blurryness is the issue, then i think the Top one is fake...or both of them are fake ^^"...
My guess is that 2 and 3 are real. Anyway what the heck.. i don't care weather the bag is real or not.. i'm not going to use them anyway.. just that i make sure that the racket is real :D ehhehe
cooler
07-16-2004, 09:01 AM
Uh, cooler, I was making a general comment about fakes in general, not about this thread. If you noticed, I did respect the thread and I did treat it as a fun pop quiz; I even checked with you if it was ok to guess twice. By saying I missed the point or missed the objective, you didn't treat me with the same respect and I'm disappointed.
Sorry if i step out of bound. Sometime i forgot who i replied or PM'ed to :o
cooler
07-16-2004, 09:03 AM
Yeah, the majority of you got it right, the top shaft belong to a real mp99 (ie. mine :D )
cooler
07-16-2004, 10:39 AM
Yeah, I guess you guys might be right...the font of the bottom one looks unusual. Initially I find the top one somewhat blurry. Oh well...
that was how the picture came out, i didnt edit or manipulated the photo :)
cooler
07-23-2004, 10:21 AM
here is an easier quiz, which one is fake?
altreality
07-24-2004, 10:46 AM
pure on paintwork i'd say the 2nd one is fake
Marky
07-24-2004, 11:33 AM
I think you have grommets "pull-out" or "push-in" on your fake MP99 near the T-joint in your last picture, so I would guess, the first one is a fake.
cooler
07-24-2004, 01:04 PM
I think you have grommets "pull-out" or "push-in" on your fake MP99 near the T-joint in your last picture, so I would guess, the first one is a fake.
LOL, maybe i didnt align up the 2 racket exactly ;) and u saw a bit of grommet in an unstrung 'mp99'. My original intent was to quiz base on throat and shaft, paint job ;)
Marky
07-24-2004, 03:33 PM
It is extremely difficult, at least to me, to distinguish a genuine and a fake by the picture. I cheat. I take out my genuine and fake MP 9x and compare between them. Even then, I could not decide which is which in your picture. However, I would think the first one is a genuine one because my geniune MP9x bears a-first word "Even" on its shaft.
FYI: my fake MP99 looks different from yours.
Marky
07-24-2004, 03:58 PM
I enclose a pic of fake and genuine.
it would help too if cooler's pictures are better focused..... ;)
cooler
07-24-2004, 05:16 PM
it would help too if cooler's pictures are better focused..... ;)
LOL, maybe a D70 would help in this case:)
(i didnt purposely defocus the shot, i pushed the macro beyond my camera's limit) :o
carlol
07-28-2004, 11:13 PM
my guess would be the bottom is the real mp99.
even if the focusing is a bit off, i think my guess would be based on an observation that the real mp99 is a more lighter yellow than the fake one. :D
stevesim89
08-03-2004, 09:33 PM
and the little dots are more visible and not all blurred together.
LOL. I have a MP 99(real) but instead of a musclepower bag, the dealer gave me Armourtech bag(real).
cooler
08-04-2004, 12:05 AM
yah, the bottom one is real. :)
Isometric_kid
11-21-2006, 10:51 PM
i thought the case #2 and #3 were fake because fake bags uses buckles and#2 bad has yonex logo and the bags that have buckle and yonex logo are the black titainum and the yellow ultinum ti case and the material looks to shiny to be those bags and #3 is buckle and the part looks to fat...
cooler
11-21-2006, 11:06 PM
i thought the case #2 and #3 were fake because fake bags uses buckles and#2 bad has yonex logo and the bags that have buckle and yonex logo are the black titainum and the yellow ultinum ti case and the material looks to shiny to be those bags and #3 is buckle and the part looks to fat...
you're pretty descriptive for a kid:D Thanks for posting. I haven't come across any new fakes lately for more quizes.
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