Hi i havent been playing for to long, and im in the market for a new raquet, im a smash based player, i have alot of miss hits, too much power and my raquet frames keep splitting, my one now is a carbonex lite, but after i got it restrung at 20lb, the top 2 middle grommets caved in pulling the metal with it and the set of grommets next to its starting to do it aswell, im looking at the yonex muscle power series, im not sure how much i want/can spend, at my current skill level i only want something around 200AUD, my coach is pushing me into play more singles but i play mostly doubles, i dont play more then 2 times a week, so thats only like 6hrs a week, but i would like to get alot more serious. When i would get my raquet i would get it strung with bg65, the person who restrings it for me only suggests bg65 for everyone, but as i get better and dont miss hit i want to be able to control my power smashes alittle better, am i on the right track, what should i get my raquet strung at and which one would suit me now and when i get rid of my bad habits hehe.
thanks
Brenn

here are some advice that i doubt you will like

- no racket is going to give you better control over your smashes or give you lesser miss hits.

- but under the circumstances i would recommend you to buy a muscle power 100 2u as it is quite a forgiving racket, meaning that if you hit off centre of the racket, it will still be able to produce a decent smash.

- the mp100 is also quite durable... if you break it when u strung it at 20lbs again then it is the stringer's fault. i strung mine at 28lbs and it has served me well for over 2 years.

- your coach is right, you should play some singles to improve your shots... in singles, your mistakes and silly errors will be much more obvious to you than when playing doubles.

- playing singles will also let you practice your aiming/directing of the shuttle better. coz after a while, just hitting straight all the way, won't really get your opponent into much trouble...

- string wise, i prefer bg66. bg65 is fine, it's just that it loses its tension very quickly...

i hope this helps. =)

|R|S's advice sounds about right for you, also if you feel like spending a little more, an AT800OF should be even less breakable than an MP100 and also give you excellent power. that might be slightly out of your price range though, however it may be something to consider

One cheap solution which just struck my mind is the Yonex Basic Racquets. I believe it doesn't get any more durable than steel.

But then if you are decent enough, go for the high end ones reccomended here.

~Cheers

IMHO, AT800OF is harder to use than mp100... if you are willing to spend more, then go for AT800DE.

hmm thanks, nah i know no raquet will decrease my miss hits unless its because my raquets too light, control wise i need a stiffer neck, and im playing singles again, i use to play but i had a long brake and well im all slow and i rely to much on winning with my smash, ie i just set up shots and boom, but my coatch wants me to start dropping more and playing more net shots, cause i play back in doubles most of the time. BG66? dont they break easily, yeh ill try the bg66 when i get the raquet(they come with out strings), what about CABms8600, Fend was telling me about it, im really interested now. hehe he's very persuasive. thanks, i think ill start thinking seriously about badminton now, before i just showed off my power, but i played with a state player, ohh he had great footwork, i reckon footworks probably onea the most important aspects of badminton.
THanks
Brenn

Well, Brenn... you reckon right. Footwork is very important in badminton. You gotta get to the shot to play it, right? The earlier you get to it, the more options you have.

With regards to the racquet problem, yeah... change your stringer. Ask the better players where they get their racquets strung. 20lbs is usually the tension strung when unspecified. If your racquet even crack at that tension, either your racquet is an old frame that's not designed to be strung at a higher tension or your stringer is incompetent.

To cappy75
Maybe his 8100 Light has been aged by storage. I had a chat with him yesterday.

mmm.

To Brenn
And there is no cabms8600. Only cab30ms, and cab8600 light. Both different racquets. I have one cab8600 light & 1 cab30ms. I'm not sure if it fits you, but it might fit your budget, among all the other high end racquets.

BG 66 works for me, I don't know bout your playing style, but I personally favour the thin string for the sound and the repulsion (easy to get net shots over the net.)

Hope you can digest what I've said. Use the reviews section.

Cheers

hmm... the CAB 8100 Light isn't that old, is it? I remember seeing it on shelves of general sporting goods stores one year ago. It's a low end Yonex racquet. Not sure if it could even stand more than 20lbs:(. Yes, improper storage could reduce the durability of the racquet.

hmm... the CAB 8100 Light isn't that old, is it? I remember seeing it on shelves of general sporting goods stores one year ago. It's a low end Yonex racquet. Not sure if it could even stand more than 20lbs:(. Yes, improper storage could reduce the durability of the racquet.
Agreed capp75. Prolly combo of old racquet, bad storage and bad stringer.

Just to add, my cab8600 light can hold tensions of up to 26 lbs (Highest i've gone, maybe 28) But I keep it in good condition and my stringer is pro. Cheers

my stringer came recommended by this lady i play with who use to compete in the commonwealth games but it does only cost 20AUS to restring hmmm and that includes bg65 strings, haha no its not improper storage i took a 2 year break, it was sitting in its cover that whole time, i think its too weak of a raquet for me, i bought it when i was starting out, i thought it was good because it was light, but now the flexi neck pisses me off, and these cracks just gave me an excuse to get a new one. yeh i was told bg66 would break alot for me, or it might have been another series of string, hmmm just that it wouldn't last very long. With my budget, im currently saving to get my car, so i can play more bady.

yes. stay away from bg66 is my advice to you. since budgeting is an issue to you. burst quick they will i assure you. they WILL. to some this is not an issue however.
but i will take 1 step further by advising you NOT TO TRY BG66 AT ALL if you wish to continue enjoying badminton with more durable strings like BG65. this is cause bg66 is highly ADDICTIVE i tell you. once you get used to that sensitive feel, that high repulsive response, playing with almost any other string just will never ever be the same again.

cheers.

i hope this warning/advice did not backfire and tempt you instead :D:D:D

yes. stay away from bg66 is my advice to you. since budgeting is an issue to you. burst quick they will i assure you. they WILL. to some this is not an issue however.
but i will take 1 step further by advising you NOT TO TRY BG66 AT ALL if you wish to continue enjoying badminton with more durable strings like BG65. this is cause bg66 is highly ADDICTIVE i tell you. once you get used to that sensitive feel, that high repulsive response, playing with almost any other string just will never ever be the same again.

cheers.

i hope this warning/advice did not backfire and tempt you instead :D:D:D

LOL, I've told many people the same thing (BG66 & 85).
Got that FEND? :p

LOL, I've told many people the same thing (BG66 & 85).
Got that FEND? :p
Cooler, cooler, cooler, I still use BG 66 'cause unlike you fellows over there, BG 66 is in supply here lots of it. PLus I do not have that much of strength as you folks there to break strings that easily. And again cooler, I might add that there has not been once when BG 66 has let me down. If you wish to persist this matter even further, I would like to add that it all comes down to personal preference, and whether I want to use it is my choice, not yours cooler.

Btw. that 32.58 lbs is still holding.

Cheers

Also, different climate would affect durability of the string. I suspect that BG66 would last a tad longer in warmer and more humid climates than colder and drier ones.

Cooler, cooler, cooler, I still use BG 66 'cause unlike you fellows over there, BG 66 is in supply here lots of it. PLus I do not have that much of strength as you folks there to break strings that easily. And again cooler, I might add that there has not been once when BG 66 has let me down. If you wish to persist this matter even further, I would like to add that it all comes down to personal preference, and whether I want to use it is my choice, not yours cooler.

Btw. that 32.58 lbs is still holding.

Cheers

Cooler, cooler, cooler, I still use BG 66 'cause unlike you fellows over there, BG 66 is in supply here lots of it. PLus I do not have that much of strength as you folks there to break strings that easily. And again cooler, I might add that there has not been once when BG 66 has let me down. If you wish to persist this matter even further, I would like to add that it all comes down to personal preference, and whether I want to use it is my choice, not yours cooler.

Btw. that 32.58 lbs is still holding.

Cheers


wow. you must be a pretty good player to play at that tension. considering your age you should be an up and coming brunei player?
yes bg66 is quite cheap where we are compared to bg85/68ti/80.

but anyway, im very curious about your tension. pls do a test for me. hit your palm (the part of the palm that's connected to wrist) with your strung racquet. if the sound is a hi pitch bell sound (the sound you hear at a railway crossing) then your hi tension string is genuinely hi.
plus your palm should be in pain after more than 10 hits. lol

note: this is specificaly for bg66 only. other strings produce different sounds.

Cooler, cooler, cooler, I still use BG 66 'cause unlike you fellows over there, BG 66 is in supply here lots of it. PLus I do not have that much of strength as you folks there to break strings that easily. And again cooler, I might add that there has not been once when BG 66 has let me down. If you wish to persist this matter even further, I would like to add that it all comes down to personal preference, and whether I want to use it is my choice, not yours cooler.

Btw. that 32.58 lbs is still holding.

Cheers
LOL, you sounding too serious. All i meant is that bg66 and 85 are addictive. Never said don't use it :rolleyes: :)

wow. you must be a pretty good player to play at that tension. considering your age you should be an up and coming brunei player?
yes bg66 is quite cheap where we are compared to bg85/68ti/80.

but anyway, im very curious about your tension. pls do a test for me. hit your palm (the part of the palm that's connected to wrist) with your strung racquet. if the sound is a hi pitch bell sound (the sound you hear at a railway crossing) then your hi tension string is genuinely hi.
plus your palm should be in pain after more than 10 hits. lol

note: this is specificaly for bg66 only. other strings produce different sounds.
Yes I just tried it, the bell sound like in a train station I can hear. Plus the string hitting against my wrist is kinda painful!!.

LOL, you sounding too serious. All i meant is that bg66 and 85 are addictive. Never said don't use ithttp://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gifhttp://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/images/smilies/smile.gif

lol. Cooler I was a member of my inter house debate team where I got best speaker. Unfortunately my house lost, but that's another story.

~Cheers

what about the bg80? on the cab30ms? not to worried about strings breaking if its like more then once a month then ill be anoyed strings are relatively cheap i think, well not according to that review of the bg66 hahaha typo, but i only just got use to the power increase i had with from my stock yonex strings to my bg65's wasnt much but still a few control issues :p. i broke 2 standard yonex strings both which hadnt been used for a while, this was while my raquet was in getting strung so yay a 5kg steel racket for me back then hahaha. so yeh i reckon bg80 but not sure if they'll have more power then the bg65? thinner string better repulsion so i guess soo, but i dont know, i get told not to get anything else but bg65 by this lady, cause i would be getting my raquet restrung like every 2 weeks, but the strings still feel the same to my old original yonex ones now.

Yes I just tried it, the bell sound like in a train station I can hear. Plus the string hitting against my wrist is kinda painful!!.


~Cheers

LOL. so it really is hi tension. good for you.

now stop defying the laws of physics and let that string burst already. stringers need business you know :D:D:D:D:D

LOL. so it really is hi tension. good for you.

now stop defying the laws of physics and let that string burst already. stringers need business you know :D:D:D:D:D

LOL, that was EXACTLY what i told to 'DE' FEND guy.
He will be experiencing some real 'Cab Explosion' LOL very soon LOL

BG80 is a good string, but more expensive than BG65 for the marginal improvement on performance. I still have a bunch of BG80s but now I am going back to BG65 (25lbs and up). BG80 is alright if you strung at a lower tension (say... 20~23lbs), repulsion is there and it won't break the bank restringing your racquet.

what about the bg80? on the cab30ms? not to worried about strings breaking if its like more then once a month then ill be anoyed strings are relatively cheap i think, well not according to that review of the bg66 hahaha typo, but i only just got use to the power increase i had with from my stock yonex strings to my bg65's wasnt much but still a few control issues :p. i broke 2 standard yonex strings both which hadnt been used for a while, this was while my raquet was in getting strung so yay a 5kg steel racket for me back then hahaha. so yeh i reckon bg80 but not sure if they'll have more power then the bg65? thinner string better repulsion so i guess soo, but i dont know, i get told not to get anything else but bg65 by this lady, cause i would be getting my raquet restrung like every 2 weeks, but the strings still feel the same to my old original yonex ones now.

LOL, that was EXACTLY what i told to 'DE' FEND guy.
He will be experiencing some real 'Cab Explosion' LOL very soon LOL
It ain't gonna snap till I cut the damn strings. The laws of physics don't apply to me. Sorry folks!! Muhahahaahahaha. BG 66 owns.

what about the bg80? on the cab30ms? not to worried about strings breaking if its like more then once a month then ill be anoyed strings are relatively cheap i think, well not according to that review of the bg66 hahaha typo, but i only just got use to the power increase i had with from my stock yonex strings to my bg65's wasnt much but still a few control issues :p. i broke 2 standard yonex strings both which hadnt been used for a while, this was while my raquet was in getting strung so yay a 5kg steel racket for me back then hahaha. so yeh i reckon bg80 but not sure if they'll have more power then the bg65? thinner string better repulsion so i guess soo, but i dont know, i get told not to get anything else but bg65 by this lady, cause i would be getting my raquet restrung like every 2 weeks, but the strings still feel the same to my old original yonex ones now.
It's all down to personal preference, whether you're willing to restring every week or whether you want your string to last. Weigh your options based on the factors you have.

1.How durable you want your string to be?
2.How high tension you want to string it?
3.How often you're willing to restring?
4.How much repulsion do you need?
5.How much you're willing to spend on restringing?
6. (Optional) What colour you want your string to be.

No 3 is different from no 5 as no 3 means how willing are you to drive to a stringer while no 5 touches the cost. Try basing it on these factors first and weigh your options.

Cheers

It ain't gonna snap till I cut the damn strings. The laws of physics don't apply to me. Sorry folks!! Muhahahaahahaha. BG 66 owns.


That's what addictiion is, bg66 owns the user! Buhahahahahaha.

That's what addictiion is, bg66 owns the user! Buhahahahahaha.
Mmm. Isn't this thread bout Brenn's racquet / string choice and not about bg 66?

hmm yeh ill try bg80 first, then see how it goes, might try bg66 after it. and grips? this is probably been done so many times before, anyyyways last question i promise, is it better to overgrip then to replace the stock grip, my over grips just dont stay sticky (wilson tennis overgrips) i dont like too sticky grips, i like these over grips when there new, so i cant keep replacing them, i have to find another way around them.
cheers
Brenn