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kwun
08-14-2004, 03:26 AM
first time i have watched air-rifle.

an extreme sport. completely depends on calmness and composure. quite interesting!

kwun
08-14-2004, 03:28 AM
China just won the first Gold medal when a Russian athlete who was leading loses her calm by a tiny bit and misses her last of 10 shots.

*izzyC*
08-14-2004, 07:03 AM
China just won the first Gold medal when a Russian athlete who was leading loses her calm by a tiny bit and misses her last of 10 shots.
I watch the game too and i at first I thought that Du Li has to settle for the silver but suddenly she was so consistent in her last few shots... Its a pity for the Russian athlete but i'm happy for the chinese...

Syaoran_Style
08-14-2004, 07:37 AM
i've watched it too =p, the russian lead since the beginning but the chinese made the difference in the end ... they are so.....calm LooL

- 73* -
08-14-2004, 08:56 AM
damn you guys are so lucky...

here in hk, we got nothing at all for the whole day....not even from the four sports channels we have.... and we wont get anything till like midnight, a fine choice of time, i must say :( :( :(

kwun
08-14-2004, 01:36 PM
I watch the game too and i at first I thought that Du Li has to settle for the silver but suddenly she was so consistent in her last few shots... Its a pity for the Russian athlete but i'm happy for the chinese...
yeah. i too thought the Russian will win. but she messed up the last shot. she probably thought she will win it coz she had a .3pt lead.

but wow, what a sport that requires extreme concentration, consistency and calmness. one need to be so mentally strong.

but i am not sure if i would spend a long time watching it though, not much actions... ;)

cooler
08-14-2004, 02:03 PM
yeah. i too thought the Russian will win. but she messed up the last shot. she probably thought she will win it coz she had a .3pt lead.

but wow, what a sport that requires extreme concentration, consistency and calmness. one need to be so mentally strong.

but i am not sure if i would spend a long time watching it though, not much actions... ;)

quite similar quality required in archery as well. Remember how the korean trains their archers? hehehe

Our canadian CBC is showing synchronized diving, what a st--id sport. As much fun as watching synchronized sneezing :o The later would still be more interesting to watch

Syaoran_Style
08-14-2004, 03:16 PM
I was really shocked by how the russian give away in the last shot ... i thought she will win but not ..the last shot was 9.7 for the russian and 10.6 to the chinese (if i remembered) but like i saiid ...it's too slow for me LoL and too calm :p

viver
08-15-2004, 12:59 PM
quite similar quality required in archery as well. Remember how the korean trains their archers? hehehe

Our canadian CBC is showing synchronized diving, what a st--id sport. As much fun as watching synchronized sneezing :o The later would still be more interesting to watch
I switch to French channels to watch the Olympic Games - watching swimming, judo, table tennis, etc. It appears to me the French is showing more than the English. I also watch the American channels - NBC, but still unable to catch badminton.

cooler
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
I switch to French channels to watch the Olympic Games - watching swimming, judo, table tennis, etc. It appears to me the French is showing more than the English. I also watch the American channels - NBC, but still unable to catch badminton.

good advice;) channel 11 it is :)

Adel
08-18-2004, 08:55 AM
As a not-very-accomplished Air Rifle shooter, I'm happy to say that the Women's 10m event is always the first to take place at every Olympics.

And all of you are right: it requires total calmness, absolute composure and is about the most inherently boring sport in the world. Training sessions are composed almost entirely of dry firing, ie. simulation of the actual shooting process but without the pellets, and repeated 40-50 times. The actual competition requires 40 shots within an hour, which sounds easy but is absolutely tiring.

I was with the school team for 6 years and the most memorable things I remember from my training sessions were 1)gossiping with teammates about our coach cum teacher in-charge who was an absolute b**** and 2)being immensely tired after every training session 'cos they were such brain drains.

By the time you get home, you feel like flopping down on the bed and dying even though physical strength is not the biggest factor in the sport.

On a lighter note, the feeling you get when you shoot well is like breaking a world record, winning an Olympic gold and striking lottery all in one, multiplied by ten (note that I've never done any of the above). :D

Pecheur
08-18-2004, 05:35 PM
And all of you are right: it requires total calmness, absolute composure and is about the most inherently boring sport in the world.


No, no, the most boring sport in the world is SMALL BORE! Yes I've shot both *snooze*, being semi-somnolent is almost an advantage in that sport to help to shot smoother.

kwun
08-18-2004, 05:46 PM
what stuck in my head is how absolutely *COOL* :cool: those shooters are in between shots. they all have their own way to keep calm.

ironically, the Gold medalist chose to continue aiming her rifle at the target. i see that similar to the preparation for a badminton service, an extended service preparation period is considered a no no in badminton but it certainly worked for her.

also, they appears to be in still-frame mode on tv, but in fact, they are just there aiming... :cool: :cool: :cool:

Pecheur
08-18-2004, 05:51 PM
what stuck in my head is how absolutely *COOL* :cool: those shooters are in between shots. they all have their own way to keep calm.

also, they appears to be in still-frame mode on tv, but in fact, they are just there aiming... :cool: :cool: :cool:

The problem is that there's no time restrictions in between shots besides the strength in your arms/back/legs. Breathe, aim, breathe (breathe x 10), stop breathing, shoot, breathe x 20, stop breathing, shoot, breathe x 30, stop breathing, shoot, repeat. Snooze.

Syaoran_Style
08-18-2004, 07:04 PM
I switch to French channels to watch the Olympic Games - watching swimming, judo, table tennis, etc. It appears to me the French is showing more than the English. I also watch the American channels - NBC, but still unable to catch badminton.

national channels France2 and france3 are showing The OG 24h/24 ... they said they will pass badminton on tv but i've seen nothing ='(((

gossip_lover
08-19-2004, 02:55 AM
unfortunately..ive never seen this sport played b4...as it hasnt been shown on tv in vancouver...or perhaps i just missed seeing it myself...but i do want to watch it...it seems quite interesting:)

Dill
08-28-2004, 07:39 PM
Why do the shooters lay down? Is it to keep them in the same posture so they are still?

Just to make the sport more interesting, all shots are to be taken from various poses taken from the film "Zoolander", very loud heavy metal music to be played like "pass the parcel" and no notification of when it starts back up again to be given to the contestants.

Mascots are to be included to put off the opposition by means of shouting, klaxons, letting off firecrackers etc. at times when the pressure from these other "NEW RULES" don't add enough pressure.

Fair enough it would change the entire sport but it would make it more interesting to watch :D All contestants in various poses taking shots in between loud musical head rot and being abused by huge fluffy animals!

timeless
08-28-2004, 07:54 PM
Although the competitors patience and control are impressive, I think it pales in comparison to the patience and control of military snipers. They can lie absolutely still for days just to wait for the one perfect shot! Now that's insane! :eek: :D

Dill
08-28-2004, 08:02 PM
Maybe not the correct place for the above changes to the rules to be made then :eek:

:D :D :D

timeless
08-28-2004, 08:11 PM
Or create a new event where the competitors lie at each end of the shooting field... and try to hit eachother the most times with paintball-like ammunition within a short time frame! :D That would certainly add some pressure to the mix, let alone some great entertainment for spectators and television.

Pete LSD
08-28-2004, 08:22 PM
After the military snipers took their shots, they got to evade search parties on the hunt.

How big is a target on a 16X day-light scope at a range of 1,500 yards?

Although the competitors patience and control are impressive, I think it pales in comparison to the patience and control of military snipers. They can lie absolutely still for days just to wait for the one perfect shot! Now that's insane! :eek: :D

Pecheur
08-28-2004, 08:28 PM
After the military snipers took their shots, they got to evade search parties on the hunt.

How big is a target on a 16X day-light scope at a range of 1,500 yards?

Erm that kinda depends what the target is. It's considered inhumane in many countries to use greater than 50 cal on a human with a snipers rifle anyway so you're aiming for materiel (not a typo).

Pete LSD
08-29-2004, 11:58 AM
I know it's inhumane to use 0.50 cal on a human but 0.50 cal is probably the only bullet with enough kinetic energy to take down a soft target at 1,500 yards down range.

Erm that kinda depends what the target is. It's considered inhumane in many countries to use greater than 50 cal on a human with a snipers rifle anyway so you're aiming for materiel (not a typo).

Pecheur
08-29-2004, 05:07 PM
I know it's inhumane to use 0.50 cal on a human but 0.50 cal is probably the only bullet with enough kinetic energy to take down a soft target at 1,500 yards down range.

Not really, Aussies ain't allowed to take down people with 0.50 cal sniper rifles. You can take down a soft target with the standard 7.62 NATO round or 0.338 Lapua I think (not that I've ever tried), the furthest I've shot with a rifle is 300 m.

Pete LSD
08-29-2004, 05:28 PM
The requirement in question is 1,500 yards or 1,350 meters. A 0.338 Lapua or 7.62 X 51 mm doesn't have sufficient kinetic energy to completely knock out the target at that range.

Not really, Aussies ain't allowed to take down people with 0.50 cal sniper rifles. You can take down a soft target with the standard 7.62 NATO round or 0.338 Lapua I think (not that I've ever tried), the furthest I've shot with a rifle is 300 m.

Pecheur
08-29-2004, 05:34 PM
The requirement in question is 1,500 yards or 1,350 meters. A 0.338 Lapua or 7.62 X 51 mm doesn't have sufficient kinetic energy to completely knock out the target at that range.

That's purely a function of what they are fired from, with sufficient muzzle velocity, a 0.338 or 7.62 can take someone down from that range.

timeless
08-29-2004, 07:47 PM
Inhumane? LOL More like slaughter! .50 Cal sniper rifles are used to stop vehicles... on people they would literally rip them in half.

cappy75
08-29-2004, 08:06 PM
Hmm... snipers shoot to kill. Does it really matter how "inhumane" they kill?

Pecheur
08-29-2004, 08:12 PM
Hmm... snipers shoot to kill. Does it really matter how "inhumane" they kill?

Bombs are designed to kill too, however chemical/biological bombs are banned, the argument is the same.

cappy75
08-29-2004, 08:30 PM
Hmm... I really don't see the difference. Shrapnal dismemberment and burning from regular bombs or asphyxiation and burning from chemical bombs. Not much difference... it's still murder.

Pecheur
08-29-2004, 08:41 PM
Hmm... I really don't see the difference. Shrapnal dismemberment and burning from regular bombs or asphyxiation and burning from chemical bombs. Not much difference... it's still murder.

Well yeah, however at least people are trying to be consistent, I personally have nothing against using 0.50 cals against people if I'd have to shoot them anyway (hopefully that never happens).

Since we are getting waaay off track and into politics I think it's best that we stop talking about the morality of it.

Pete LSD
08-29-2004, 08:58 PM
Well, the big caliber bullets are for ultra-long-range sniping and not the average joe's 100 to 300 m shooting.

Well yeah, however at least people are trying to be consistent, I personally have nothing against using 0.50 cals against people if I'd have to shoot them anyway (hopefully that never happens).

Since we are getting waaay off track and into politics I think it's best that we stop talking about the morality of it.

Pecheur
08-29-2004, 09:14 PM
Well, the big caliber bullets are for ultra-long-range sniping and not the average joe's 100 to 300 m shooting.

Well actually the larger calibers were orginally designed to do more damage at what are now considered short ranges, even pistol ranges, because as you said kinetic energies were too low, this was due to low muzzle velocities.

That was a long time ago, muzzle velocities are much higher now, using 7.62 NATO sniper rifle, say AWP (not the weapon you saw in CS guys, that was a mislabelled AWM, AWP is designed for 7.62) and killing someone at 1,500 yards with a 10x sight would not be difficult for a sniper.

timeless
08-29-2004, 09:46 PM
http://www.snipercountry.com/graphics/KenyanWalker.jpg
Spot the sniper! :cool:
And no it's not the guy standing to the right of the photo... he's actually looking for him too! :D

Pecheur
08-30-2004, 01:02 AM
The requirement in question is 1,500 yards or 1,350 meters. A 0.338 Lapua or 7.62 X 51 mm doesn't have sufficient kinetic energy to completely knock out the target at that range.

Oh I did some checking, all the largest round used in a rifle defined as a snipers rifle is 9mm. All the 12.7 or 0.50 cal are defined as anti-materiel weapons.

Also when fired from an AWM, the round is still supersonic at 1400 m (greater than your defined 1500 yards) carrying over 1000 J, far more than enough to kill someone.

Pete LSD
08-30-2004, 07:19 PM
Attn Pecheur: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=178956#post178956