the new cab 21... [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

YY Fan

06-16-2003, 09:36 PM

Dear Kwun,

New version (new YY logo) Cab 21 is less durable and less stiff than the old version (old YY logo).

New version Cab 21 is lighter and more flex that the old one. In my opinion, the quality of new Cab 21 is still acceptable and new Cab 21's performance is still good, though its quality is a bit lower than before. It is still worth buying. It cost HK$450 (with free BG66 and stringing service) in Wan Kee in MongKok.

On the contrary, some players may find its playability better than before for its lighter weight. It depends on player's preference.

For me, racket's durability is not a problem, as long as I only play with tension 22lbs x 20lbs and seldom make racket clashes with others. According to my limited experience, graphite quality will deteriorate as time goes on, thus, one has to buy new rackets, even the old one is not broken.

Yodums

06-17-2003, 08:47 AM

Wil: This is dated back to more than 3 years old (2000)!!! :D

kwun

06-17-2003, 09:49 AM

thank YYFan, that was useful information. during much of my badminton development stage i was using a cab21, it will be interesting to try it out again. esp when cab rackets are so much more affordable than the new fancy MP stuff which i don't really like.

wilfredlgf, love to read your review too.

FYI who doesn't know, the cab21 first came out in the early 90s. it was top of the line racket then and before the time of the Isometrics. i had a couple of them but they both self-destructed pre-maturely (after only 2-3 months). i gave up on it based on the poor durability. however, i have since talk to friends who have the cab21 but bought later. they all say that the racket are bomb-proof so i guess Yonex has fixed the durability problem.

YY Fan

06-17-2003, 11:32 PM

Dear Kwun,

Not at all, it's a pleasure to share experience or opinion with badminton fans.

I have both old Cab 21 and new Cab 21. I am satisfied with their performance. I find new Cab 21 better for its lighter weight, whenever I am not in good physical condition.

New Cab 21's performance is something like that of Boron 2, anyway new Cab 21 is heavier and durable than Boron 2.

Kwun, if you are looking for a durable Cab racket, I highly recommend the Cab 20 Ti Power, which has titanium mesh on the frame like Ti-10. Cab 20 Ti Power is not well-received in HK, maybe there are too many YY rackets models for selection. Although the appearance of Cab 20 Ti Power is not attractive, it is made of very good H.M. graphite - very stiff and robust. It is also a heavy racket. Thus, if one is a hard-hitter, I believe Cab 20 Ti Power is fine.

I wonder why few, if any, review is on the Cab 20 Ti Power. Though I haven't try it before, I sense its solid feel and "mass" when holding it on my hand. In my opinion, Cab 20 Ti Power is even more stiffer than Cab 20 Power and Cab 22 - the two most stiffest Cab rackets in the past.

Look foward to someone's review on Cab 20 Ti Power soon. Tks.

wilfredlgf

06-18-2003, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by Yodums
Wil: This is dated back to more than 3 years old (2000)!!! :D
Akhem... sorry about that. :D

wilfredlgf

06-18-2003, 03:06 AM

Well, the thread is like as old as the Great Pyramids, but I think I'm doing a service to BF by actually reading the really old threads and updating if possible. But the problem arise from the fact that some of the old threads may have 'duplicates' on a later date, causing it to become pretty redundant. Maybe kwun could actually set a rule that an aged thread without any replies are to be deleted. Saves on bandwidth etc.

What sayeth thou?

Kaffie

07-10-2003, 11:39 AM

I just bought a cab 21 sp recently, cos I'm not comfortable playing with the iso types.
I have it string with bg80 24lbs.
The first day I used it, the power and control was ok. It's not as stiff compare to the older version. Everything seems ok till I played with it on the 2nd day.
Was warming up and stroking, on the 1st stroke, I can't seems to hit the birdie pass the midcourt, so I tried using more strength but no matter what the birdie doesn't seems to fly.
Can anyone tell me why?
I just remove the string and restrung it with bg 66 at 23lb/25lb today.
Will try it again tmr and see how it goes.

swijaya0101

07-10-2003, 12:00 PM

one of our singapore group member is using Cab21 strung at 29/31 lbs

he has used the racket for almost a year ... and i could see nothing is wrong with his frame.

double

07-10-2003, 02:54 PM

29/31 lbs???!!!!:eek:

What version is that?

kwun

07-10-2003, 03:03 PM

thanks YYFan for the comment. wilfredgf, still waiting for your review of the cab21.

there are a lot of versions of the cab2x. i have a cab22 which is identical to the cab20 power. i like the cab22 very much. perhaps i will give the cab20 ti power a try. and the cab21 as well for old time sake.

and their prices are just unbeatable. with MP100/99 etc up at the HK$800+ price point, the cabs are a relative bargain.

wilfredlgf

07-10-2003, 06:24 PM

Sorry about that, kwun. One of the main reasons why I didn't really remember this thread was the fact that I didn't really enjoy using the Cab 21.

The only thing I can think of is that the Cab 21 is pretty powerful in comparison to Cab 20 but harder to control due to the weight which I think is head heavy. Smashes produced are great and yet I find recovery and defence pretty difficult with this racquet. I felt 'encumbered' (borrowing a term from Baldur's Gate...) :) I become too slow for my liking. I find fitnesse shots harder to do with the Cab 21.

Well, I don't know if this qualifies as a review but there you have it.

Thanks.

p/s - On a related note ('cab explosion' : oval vs isometric), I still prefer this racquet to the MP55 and MP77 that I have had the chance to use ocassionally. I felt (note : felt) that there's more power in my game using the Cab 21 than the two MPs.

This only goes to show that the Carbonex series is unlikely to get phased out anytime in the near future.

Proven technology, household name, experience and testimony.

swijaya0101

07-10-2003, 11:08 PM

double,

the version is SP ...

double

07-10-2003, 11:52 PM

is it new logo or old logo? Thanks.

swijaya0101

07-10-2003, 11:54 PM

hi double ...

it's the new logo ...

YY Fan

07-11-2003, 03:21 AM

Dear Kwun,

It seems we share the same perference. I like my Cab 20 Power very much, in terms of stiffness, balance and power.

I have the following Cab rackets : Cab 20 Power, Cab 20 Tour, Cab 21, Cab 22, Cab 8 Ti Power and Boron 2 (many thanks to Mr. Double). I like Cab series more than the MP or Iso rackets, for the time being, I get none of MP rackets.

If you have chance to try Cab 20 Ti Power, pls kindly post your review. Tks.

kwun

07-11-2003, 03:44 AM

the carbonex series better stay, else Yonex will be making a lot fans mad.

however, i am not sure as now armortec series just arrived, yonex now have carbonex, Iso, Ti, MP, AT series. seems to be a lot. i am not seeing many new Iso or Ti rackets now, nor do i see many new cab's either. i wonder what's Yonex plan? they phased out aerotus in most markets. will they decide to phase out cab, Iso, or Ti next? my guess is they will phase out Iso first. as the newer rackets are all implicitly isometric anyway. are there any production of Iso rackets from Japan anymore? i know there is the TiSP, but aside from that? the Iso VF series all come from Taiwan.

YYFan, yes, i am starting to like cabs now. there is a certain control and spin to it that i find missing with Iso rackets. i have been playing exclusively with cab20 for the last two months (not by choice, but all strings on my other good racket snapped and i was too lazy to bring them to string). anyhow, i am getting quite used to my cab20. i just recently restrung my cab22 and will be using that more, i am looking for find it a partner as i only have one.

unlikely that i will be getting any new rackets anytime soon. i have no plans to go visit HK until at least the end of the year. and i am on a buying freeze anyway... i hope the cabs in HK will wait for me. ;)

wong

07-11-2003, 11:06 AM

Wish to know the different between cab-20 sp and cab-20 tour sp, in term of power and control?

Smashguy

07-11-2003, 12:06 PM

Kwun,

Don't worry. Cab in HK are many, especially in Mongkok. They are selling Cab 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 8, 9 Tour, 10 Tour, 15. ISO 800 Tour, 750 Muscle, Ti 3, 7, 7 LIght, 8, 10. I think they have load of stock. They will be there even you come back in Fall 2004.

fhchiang

01-13-2004, 09:04 AM

the new carbonex 21?

hmm... Cab21 SP?

clownboat

01-13-2004, 02:07 PM

someone posted what was the difference between the old cab21 and the new cab21 and it was stated that one has the old yonex logo and one has the new logo correct?

another question

how are the two logos differenent? is the new one the white on green and the old one gold on black?

i have both an old cab21 (~10yrs old) that i broke and kept, and recently i got a new one (the blue paint job) and both have the black on gold logos

are they both the same versions or are they different?

thanks

kwun

01-13-2004, 02:12 PM

the difference between the old and new cab21 are only the production date. and as a result of that, the Yonex logos are different as Yonex as a company changed to a new logo in the 90s.

in other words, all cab21 in existence should have gold on black handle caps.

there should be no other cosmetic differences.

clownboat

01-13-2004, 08:25 PM

actually my older (both) cab21's that i got when they first came out are different colours as well

it is grey paint rather than blue

kwun

01-13-2004, 08:26 PM

in the early days, the cab21 comes in two different colors. pink accent or light blue accent. i am not sure if that has changed.

but in my post, i was refering to the handle cap.

clownboat

01-13-2004, 08:28 PM

but now im confused to which is the old logo and the new logo?

im still asumming the old logo is the gold on black correct?

how come the "new" cab21's have that colour logo?

Pete LSD

01-13-2004, 08:36 PM

Is CAB 20 Ti available in 2U G5 in Hong Kong. After many trials and errors, I find G5 is the appropriate grip size for me. And how much is it now?

Originally posted by YY Fan
Dear Kwun,

Not at all, it's a pleasure to share experience or opinion with badminton fans.

I have both old Cab 21 and new Cab 21. I am satisfied with their performance. I find new Cab 21 better for its lighter weight, whenever I am not in good physical condition.

New Cab 21's performance is something like that of Boron 2, anyway new Cab 21 is heavier and durable than Boron 2.

Kwun, if you are looking for a durable Cab racket, I highly recommend the Cab 20 Ti Power, which has titanium mesh on the frame like Ti-10. Cab 20 Ti Power is not well-received in HK, maybe there are too many YY rackets models for selection. Although the appearance of Cab 20 Ti Power is not attractive, it is made of very good H.M. graphite - very stiff and robust. It is also a heavy racket. Thus, if one is a hard-hitter, I believe Cab 20 Ti Power is fine.

I wonder why few, if any, review is on the Cab 20 Ti Power. Though I haven't try it before, I sense its solid feel and "mass" when holding it on my hand. In my opinion, Cab 20 Ti Power is even more stiffer than Cab 20 Power and Cab 22 - the two most stiffest Cab rackets in the past.

Look foward to someone's review on Cab 20 Ti Power soon. Tks.

fhchiang

01-14-2004, 09:06 AM

now i only see

Cab 21 SP in blue(somewhat similar to purple) and with black and gold cap..

bluejeff

01-14-2004, 09:23 AM

The Cab21 is a pretty good racket IMO.

By the way, I have a friend and he has a Cab21(the newer one, some scratches), and he desparately wants to exchange his Cab21 with my MP-88(4U) along with additional $50

So, If anyone of you considering getting a Cab21, maybe i can talk to him and help you out.

dingolphie

03-28-2004, 10:38 AM

i see this thread's been dead a long time, but i couldntt resist :p

cab 21 has been my favourite since i switched to it about 9 years ago. I have 2 of them with me now. No problems with durability since I have had them both for over a year. The only problem I have noticed is that if you string them tight , the racket loses some of it's flex and over 2/3 years feels like a ping pong paddle.

knighthood23

03-31-2004, 02:39 AM

Would appreciate if someone can attach the picture of Carbonex 21SP (new YY logo with gold colour) bag?

I just bought a Yonex Carbonex 21SP today.

Thanks.

knighthood23

04-05-2004, 08:23 AM

Would appreciate if someone can attach the picture of Carbonex 21SP (new YY logo with gold colour) bag?

I just bought a Yonex Carbonex 21SP today.

Thanks.

bluejeff

04-05-2004, 08:39 AM

Would appreciate if someone can attach the picture of Carbonex 21SP (new YY logo with gold colour) bag?

I just bought a Yonex Carbonex 21SP today.

Thanks.
What do you mean by Carbonex 21SP Bag?
The Carrying bag???? I don't see you point because the dealer can include any bag with the racket, and Yonex has so many types of carrying bags as we know.

knighthood23

04-05-2004, 06:27 PM

bluejeff,

You mean Yonex will give different bag from time to time?

bluejeff

04-05-2004, 07:05 PM

bluejeff,

You mean Yonex will give different bag from time to time?
Not only from time to time, but also different stores/dealers might have excess bags and he will probably give you different ones.

So far, I have see more than 15+ different Yonex bags.

A note to you, Yonex Bags are complimentary to the rackets, and Yonex don't sell them. So it is up to dealers/stores on which kinds that he wants to grap when he visits Yonex for inventory.

knighthood23

04-05-2004, 10:55 PM

bluejeff,

Thank you very much.

kwun

05-08-2004, 03:42 AM

finally, after many many long long years, (13 years to be exact!) i will be a proud owner of the cab21 again. i just ordered 3 of them and should arrive next week or the week after in my hands. i cannot wait, this is like meeting old friend again. the cab21 is very special to me. i started using it when i was in secondary school. only used it for one year but it was one of the most enjoyable badminton years.

i have order 3 of them, two will be with bg85. one of them will be with bg66, just like the good old days.

i cannot wait...

TrunkZ69

05-08-2004, 03:59 AM

from now on, you must get at least! 3 of each cab you buy ^_^

BoboTheBadder

05-08-2004, 04:07 AM

Wow, talk about bringing an old thread back to life! I have a Cab21. It's a very special racket since it's passed through a lot of people to me. I just hope I don't break it in a clash or something stupid. It's really old and looks worn out, but it still plays better than most rackets I've used. Cab21-4-lyfe!

Smashguy

05-08-2004, 03:32 PM

As far as quality and playing are concerned, the difference between old and new Cab 21.

My personal experience is old one more solid than new one when hit the birdie.

smashmouth

11-08-2005, 10:03 PM

Just got a cab 21sp (2u G5) a few weeks ago. It's got a red design (neither blue nor purple) and the logo on the cap is black with gold YY's. Based on the serial number, the racket was manufactured in May 2005.

I had it strung with BG 68Ti at 24X26lbs and have been playing with it for about 3 weeks.

Before the cab 21 sp, I've been using the Ti10, so it took me about a week before I got used to its weight and length. Since then, I've fallen in love with the cab 21. It's not as powerful as the Ti10, but powerful enough to get the job done. In terms of control, I think this is where it has the edge over the Ti10, it's faster and easier to maneuver.

Overall, I would rate the new cab 21sp as an excellent racket that doesn't cost as much as the nano and armortech types.