Believe it or not.. Badminton is not the fastest racket sport game as we know.. Pelota is the world fastest game. "Pelota" spanish name for ball is actually made from rubber and thrown by using a "Cesta" or basket to a wall.

But personally , weather fastest or not.. badminton is still the best and believe it or not.. it is the world's 2nd most played game after Soccer.

Whoa Really?!?! Thats krazy.... 8|

Do you have a source on the second fact(badminton second most played sport in the world)? That would be really cool if it's true.

badminton is still the best and believe it or not.. it is the world's 2nd most played game after Soccer.

there is no doubt that badminton is the best game... :D
in my next incarnation, i pray that i become a baddy player or a bird whose feathers could be used to make the shuttle... :D I am infatuated.

But when you say it's the 2nd most played game after Soccer, I believe it would count all the people who just hold the racket and play in their backyard, lanes... but who play seriously might count less....

Do you have a source on the second fact(badminton second most played sport in the world)? That would be really cool if it's true.

it was in an NBC article i read just before the olympics started, on their website. i'm guessing that may be where ants read it too?

on a sidenote, that game, "Pelota" i heard is quite insane, other than a big stick with a net on it kind of thing, the goalie doesn't wear padding. the ball used is nearly like a field hockey ball, so it has a decent amount of weight and doesn't really slow down like a shuttlecock. i heard it can actually kill people (apart from the game supposedly being also full contact), so the game is banned in some places.

Do you have a source on the second fact(badminton second most played sport in the world)? That would be really cool if it's true.

source? nothing official as no one really conduct a worldwide census.
However, if one add the population of countries where badminton is popular: china, indonesia, malayisa, singapore, taipei, japan, denmark and part of india, I think badminton can easily be 2nd most played sport.

it was in an NBC article i read just before the olympics started, on their website. i'm guessing that may be where ants read it too?

on a sidenote, that game, "Pelota" i heard is quite insane, other than a big stick with a net on it kind of thing, the goalie doesn't wear padding. the ball used is nearly like a field hockey ball, so it has a decent amount of weight and doesn't really slow down like a shuttlecock. i heard it can actually kill people (apart from the game supposedly being also full contact), so the game is banned in some places.

You're talking about Lacrosse, which I find to be cooler than field hockey. A fine game in its own right but not the fastest game in the world.

Pelota (or jai-alai) is played with a big crescent shaped basket on your hand. You have a ball slightly smaller than a baseball, but harder and denser, and you use the curvature of your basket to whip the ball out at speeds much faster than a shuttlecock. You also use the curvature to catch the ball, as if you don't, it will literally blow a hole through the wicker. Because of this, pelota is played on a very large enclosed field. And yes, a hit from that ball will kill you. Sometimes even if you have a helmet on.

Pelota is not a racket game! :p

Badminton is still the fastest racket game! :)

Have to agree with Seven..LOL!!

Pelota is not a racket game! :p

Badminton is still the fastest racket game! :)

Did i mentioned that Pelota is a racket game? Hehehe :) Of coz its not a racket game.

Believe it or not.. Badminton is not the fastest racket sport game as we know.. Pelota is the world fastest game.
Is there another racket game which is faster than badminton then? (since Pelota is not a racket game which we agree)

even if petola is faster than badminton...badminton smashes are getting faster and faster as racket and string technology and just more powerful players come down the pipe. side note...I wonder how fast would andy riddick smash be if he practice badminton...his serve is incredible 154mph I believe

would table tennis be considered a racket sport?

I think there is some confusion here, which is caused by the title of this thread. A better thread title would be "Is badminton the fastest racquet game?", which would have generated a more relevant and balanced discussion of racquet sports.

would table tennis be considered a racket sport?
Yes of course!
Badminton is faster than table tennis anyway! :)

would table tennis be considered a racket sport?


no. it's a paddle sport.

to find out which is the fastest paddle sport you must first compare it with other sports that uses paddles........... like kayaking! :D:D:D

LOL

Is pelota that game from the Jackass movie where they were whipping oranges at Johnny Knoxville.

i think to compare whether a sport is "fast", we should compare not only the raw speed of the ball/shuttle itself, but also the amount of distance the ball have to travel for the player to react to it. the shorter the distance, the less time to react.

and that's why table-tennis is a very fast sport as the length of the table is quite short and the ball travels at a decent speed.

badminton is not bad, 200mph travelling a few meters.

tennis in this definition is even slower as the tennis ball is slow and the court is large.

i think we should clarify the air........ because im generally not that sure either. is table tennis a considered a racquet sport?

some one pls help. i want to be sure this time :)

is table tennis a considered a racquet sport?YES it is!! ..... (already answered this higher in the thread :rolleyes: )

Should we also have to consider how fast the ball slows down in addition to court size and its initial speed? For example, the speed of the ball once it reaches the opponent's racquet.

i think to compare whether a sport is "fast", we should compare not only the raw speed of the ball/shuttle itself, but also the amount of distance the ball have to travel for the player to react to it. the shorter the distance, the less time to react.

and that's why table-tennis is a very fast sport as the length of the table is quite short and the ball travels at a decent speed.

badminton is not bad, 200mph travelling a few meters.

tennis in this definition is even slower as the tennis ball is slow and the court is large.

I think what matters is the time the players have to react between shots, no matter court size or ball speed.

it was in an NBC article i read just before the olympics started, on their website. i'm guessing that may be where ants read it too?

on a sidenote, that game, "Pelota" i heard is quite insane, other than a big stick with a net on it kind of thing, the goalie doesn't wear padding. the ball used is nearly like a field hockey ball, so it has a decent amount of weight and doesn't really slow down like a shuttlecock. i heard it can actually kill people (apart from the game supposedly being also full contact), so the game is banned in some places.
From my understanding "pelota" IS NOT A RACKET GAME, so it doesn't count. I'm preety certain baddy is the fastest RACKET sport there is, and will always be! All hail baddy! Table tennis seems pretty fast though, but it uses a paddle, not racket. Phew!

Tennis is grossly overrated. Forcing the ball boys to hold the umbrella for the players is slavery, i tell you, SLAVERY.

The fastest sports is shooting. The fastest racquet sport is badminton.

Is pelota that game from the Jackass movie where they were whipping oranges at Johnny Knoxville.
yeah..that's it..looked like it hurt..

Is Pelota the same as Jai Alai?

So where does the fastest tennis serve rank among other sports? It is ranked third, trailing behind badminton with a fastest recorded smash of 89 m/s (199 mph) and jai-alai, where a pelota was thrown at 84 m/s (188 mph) in 1979. Hockey and squash are tied for forth place with speeds up to 54 m/s (120 mph).

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/TinaCheung.shtml

the badminton speed is outdated as well. I still think badminton is the fastest sport especially with the new smashing record. If anyone can find a link to a page that shows otherwise plz post it.

Also searched 'fastest sport' on google and it came up with Jai-Alai with a fastest speed of 302 km/h. It said that Jai-Alai is the name of the sport and the Pelota is the ball. <=== said on Guiness Book of World records

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/JennyMai.shtml another jai alai link

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23717&highlight=fastest+speed

fastest in a controlled environment is 362 km/hr

Badminton is truly the fastest racket sport in the world. In years to come speeds of 250mph might be reached :eek:

and what is the fastest speed the shuttle can resist before it just explodes??

There is an element of chalk and cheese here.

The tennis serve is an average speed over the distance of the court for server to receiver. The ball doesn't slow down much over this distance and that is why you see many aces...the receiver simply can't get it back as it passes them at 130 mph.

In badminton the high speeds are experienced just after contact with very fast deceleration so it is normally well under half the speed when it reaches the opponent.

Not that I am playing down the speed of a badminton smash, but the speeds quoted in badminton and tennis are not for the same thing.

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com

I posted a link to a site in another thread that analysed how much speed's scrubbed off by the time a tennis serve gets to the receiver. IIRC, it's a little over 50%.

The thing that makes it difficult for badminton smashes, IMHO, is the reaction time needed to return one. Again IIRC someone calculated it's in the range of 0.24 second. Tennis serves almost double that. But, in tennis the receiver has to cover a larger area and has to account for the spin and bounce.

Should we also have to consider how fast the ball slows down in addition to court size and its initial speed? For example, the speed of the ball once it reaches the opponent's racquet.


There is an element of chalk and cheese here.

The tennis serve is an average speed over the distance of the court for server to receiver. The ball doesn't slow down much over this distance and that is why you see many aces...the receiver simply can't get it back as it passes them at 130 mph.

In badminton the high speeds are experienced just after contact with very fast deceleration so it is normally well under half the speed when it reaches the opponent.

Not that I am playing down the speed of a badminton smash, but the speeds quoted in badminton and tennis are not for the same thing.

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com

If the smash is done on a short lift or drop and is steep.. the speed of the shuttle will be significantly higher in badminton when it reaches the opponent compared to tennis (much faster that the inital=faststest speed of a tennis ball)..


So do we all agree now, that tennis is a sissy-sport :p
/Twobeer

hmm, i think there are two conflicts going on here..

the subject suggests that somebody thought badminton was the fastest sport, not just the fastest racquet sport.

the other conflict is whether some sports are racquet sports..

neway.. to return to topic.
badminton was obviously never the fastest sport..
if i remember correctly the fastest sport (racquet or otherwise) is ice hockey and was calculated using the combined speeds of the players and the object being hit. badminton wasn't far behind i don't think since the players and the shuttle travel at a tremendous rate throughout the game.

nto sure where shooting / archery fits in since the players are stationary..

neway - all done..

Coops

If the smash is done on a short lift or drop and is steep.. the speed of the shuttle will be significantly higher in badminton when it reaches the opponent compared to tennis (much faster that the inital=faststest speed of a tennis ball)..


So do we all agree now, that tennis is a sissy-sport :p
/Twobeer

yes, tennis max speed is alway measured at the serve which the server gets a minimum of 2 tries to pound the ball under uninterrupted, relaxed, and nice easy lob conditons.

A 120 mph tennis serve will cross the net at about 96 mph and be received at 87 mph. That means reacting to a ball that is going at 185 feet per second.

Hardly sissy ... :p

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com

A 120 mph tennis serve will cross the net at about 96 mph and be received at 87 mph. That means reacting to a ball that is going at 185 feet per second.

Hardly sissy ... :p

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com (http://www.badders.com)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=248288&postcount=67

The link in that post has speed-loss measurements for various shots in tennis.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=248288&postcount=67

The link in that post has speed-loss measurements for various shots in tennis.
We can all quote different 'tests' - http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jan2001/978460502.Ph.r.html

...but that isn't really the point. There is more than a little sensationalism in most claims about speed and difficulty of the sport.

No matter which sport it is, when played at the top level, it's going to be fast beyond belief.

If we are talking about a projectile sport and initial impact then badminton is the second fastest after Jai Alai. Ice hockey is a little way down the line at around 100mph after impact.

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com

We can all quote different 'tests' - http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jan2001/978460502.Ph.r.html

...but that isn't really the point. There is more than a little sensationalism in most claims about speed and difficulty of the sport.

No matter which sport it is, when played at the top level, it's going to be fast beyond belief.

If we are talking about a projectile sport and initial impact then badminton is the second fastest after Jai Alai. Ice hockey is a little way down the line at around 100mph after impact.

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com

jonathan

the calculation shown in that link contain too many gross assumptions and lead to bad velocity prediction:

1. no specific drag coefficient (Cd) was used
2. the tennis ball goes to the receiver without a bounce.

#1 can be closely approximated but ignoring #2 will yield gross and incorrect prediction. A bounce can take away 15-25 mph of a serve.

The team knew from its study of ball speed at the Sybase Open, that in pro tennis the speed of the ball decreases significantly over its flight. A Pete Sampras serve that is traveling about 120mph as it leaves his racket has lost about half its speed, traveling at about 60mph just before the return.

http://wings.avkids.com/Tennis/Project/usta-14.html

In term of maximum speed, badminton doubles that of tennis :p
In term of reaction time, badminton is less than half of that of tennis :p

At the receiving end, badminton players often require to return smash from a half court to 1/3 court smash in which is the reaction time is even less than a full force smash from the rear court. The short reaction time in tennis is during the serve and it's around 0.5 second. Badminton reaction time requirement is often less than 0.25 sec. For ex. at pro speed, how many time u see a receiver get hit by a tennis ball versus how often one see badminton players have to defend smash and get hit in the body?

In summary
badminton shuttle max speed is ~2X of tennis
badminton reaction time is ~ 2X shorter than tennis
badminton distance covered is ~2X of tennis

http://www.bnl.gov/bera/activities/bminton/ten-bad.html

Conclusion:
badminton is 2X cooler than tennis :p :D

and also any sport where you hit a ball or object at a wall first before your opponent can return cannot be compaired to badminton where the shuttle is being hit directly toward the opposing player.

and also any sport where you hit a ball or object at a wall first before your opponent can return cannot be compaired to badminton where the shuttle is being hit directly toward the opposing player.
but this is a badminton site.
we like to talk & compare things to badminton :rolleyes:

found some hard data

Figure 2 shows the speed of a ground stroke as it crosses the opposite baseline versus ball mass for a 65 mph initial ball speed and for a ball speed adjusted for the change in ACOR. Note that the air resistance effect alone (fixed ACOR) will change the ball speed by 10% for a change of 10 grams in mass. When the ACOR is taken into account, the variation in final ball speed is of order 3% for a 10 gram change in mass

more hard data

Figure 3 shows the speed of a serve as it crosses the opposite baseline versus ball mass for both a constant initial ball speed (120 mph) and a speed adjusted to take into account the change in the ACOR.

the ball speed drops to ~65 mph when it gets to the receiver, not 87 mph

more hard data

Figure 4 shows the time it takes a serve to go from the racket to the baseline as a function of ball mass. Note that when the ACOR is taken into account, a variation of 10 grams in ball mass will change the time the receiver has by only a millisecond or so.

It takes ~0.6 sec to reach receiver on a 120 mph serve

Federer can never hit me with his serve LOL (although i might not able to return his serve tho :o )

We can all quote different 'tests' - http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jan2001/978460502.Ph.r.html

...but that isn't really the point. There is more than a little sensationalism in most claims about speed and difficulty of the sport.

No matter which sport it is, when played at the top level, it's going to be fast beyond belief.

If we are talking about a projectile sport and initial impact then badminton is the second fastest after Jai Alai. Ice hockey is a little way down the line at around 100mph after impact.

Jonathan Phillips
www.badders.com (http://www.badders.com)

I don't think anyone reads my posts. Jai-Alai is no longer faster than badminton. Google it, the Pelota in Jai-Alai moves at upto 302 km/h. It was faster until Fu-haifeng broke 332km/h, so I don't really think it has been faster in the past 5-10 years. Just that no one was really recording the speed of smashes.

i think to compare whether a sport is "fast", we should compare not only the raw speed of the ball/shuttle itself, but also the amount of distance the ball have to travel for the player to react to it. the shorter the distance, the less time to react.

and that's why table-tennis is a very fast sport as the length of the table is quite short and the ball travels at a decent speed.

badminton is not bad, 200mph travelling a few meters.

tennis in this definition is even slower as the tennis ball is slow and the court is large.

1- badminton is not the fastest sport ... it is the world's fastest RACKET sport
2- table tennis ( just call it ping pong will ya !) is a HOBBY ... an olympic hobby ... sigh ...

i wonder what it would feel like to be hit by a 200 mph shuttle... does it hurt?:confused:
i tihnk so...:rolleyes:

i wonder what it would feel like to be hit by a 200 mph shuttle... does it hurt?:confused:
i tihnk so...:rolleyes:

definitely will bruise ... once in a while i bruise my friends and i dont smash at that speed (i think) so ...

Its 2007 now.. and this is a thread of 2005.. and I still want to continue the discussion :D ... I do play both badminton and tabletennis in an "above average" level, so I guess I could give a comparison of both sport.

Yes, tabletennis is a raquet game. And according to many sources I read (in the net) the shuttlecock INITIAL-SPEED is the fastest ever "ball" speed in any ball-game (lets say shuttlecocks are "balls".. ok? :) ) even faster than jai alai (German Source: http://www.tsv.freystadt.de/hp44/Geschichte.htm NOTE: here we are speaking only Initial ball speed.. since shuttlecock decelerate faster than many other ball in ball games) . But since the original poster just wrote "fastest" there are something that need be argued here. According to Wikipedia, Tabletennis require a faster reaction time than badminton.. and I can easily believe that, because I play both sport against some professional players. I don't know how exactly "reaction time" is measured.. but if there is a way Im sure it can be shown that TT needs faster reaction time (for professional players milliseconds in fact, because of the short distance the ball has to travel).

According to Wikipedia, Tabletennis require a faster reaction time than badminton.

Whoa there! That's not quite accurate. I know, because I wrote most of that article (I assume you're referring to the badminton article; the table tennis article does not mention badminton). :D

I quote myself, and Wikipedia at the same time (cool, huh?):

Badminton requires significantly faster reaction times than either tennis or squash, although table tennis may require even faster reaction times.Note the word "may". As in, "it's possible, but unclear".

No doubt table tennis requires more consistently fast reactions (almost every shot needs a quick reaction), but whether its maximum required reaction speed is higher than badminton is highly debatable. Never mind getting the data; how do you even define "required reaction speed"?

i wonder what it would feel like to be hit by a 200 mph shuttle... does it hurt?:confused:
i tihnk so...:rolleyes:
definitely will bruise ... once in a while i bruise my friends and i dont smash at that speed (i think) so ...
..for me, i got hit, accidentally, on the back on my head this weekend while playing:p..Actually i got hit in the head, shoulder, back, legs many a times in as many times i've played...Fortunately, my partner didn't hit it too hard, but yes, it stung a bit for a little while...:p
..However, the previous night, when i was playing, i witnessed a more harsh injury. It happened when one of my opponent was accidentally hit in the eye-OUCH!:p:( As his partner was about to return a low shot, he turned his head, to the left, and whack, got hit right on the left eye. I don't know how fast was the birdie, when it hit his eye (i would guess around 100 mph?!), but my friend quickly crumbled to the floor in pain, as he put his hands on his left eye. He stayed down for a couple minutes. His left eye was red, inside and out, and he couldn't open his eye for quite a while. A couple people thought the blood vessels to the eye might have ruptured, eventhough there was no blood coming out. About an hour later, even after we gave him a cold water of bottle, so he can put on his eye to reduce the swelling, his vision was still blurred.:(...I haven't checked on him again, but fortunately it wasn't more serious..:p

That table tennis "requires" faster reaction times than Badminton isn't really true.. As one bounce is allowed, a hard "ping-pong"-smash can be taken at a convenient distance far away from the table, giving the player extra time.. the harder the smash, the more time actually,as there are no "out".. Not very easy.. but certainly plenty of time to react.. Badminton does not allow any bounce so the player HAVE to pick up the smash before it hits the ground or his body..

/Twobeer

No doubt table tennis requires more consistently fast reactions (almost every shot needs a quick reaction), but whether its maximum required reaction speed is higher than badminton is highly debatable.

For average tabletennis players (i.e. not professionals) the fastest they would require to react is 250 milliseconds (or 1/4 of a second). For average badminton players (not amateurs, but also not professionals with very speedy smashes) I think a little more than a second reaction time is the limit.

I think for comparing ballspeeds, people usually measure it in m/s. Fastest tabletennis average ballspeed must have at most 50m/s (I have no source for this I am using intial speed as average speed since tabletennis ball decelerates at an insignificant rate given the distance between the players, but you could look at http://www.jayandwanda.com/tt/speed.html which doesnt only uses average data) and badminton average ball speed (i.e. the average speed from the time the birdie is smashed to the time the reaction is needed to return the smashed shuttlecock) well.. I would assume that its shouldnt be much greater than 50m/s (the record -initial speed- for the shuttlecock is around 90m/s .. source http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2006/ShuMeiDeng.shtml .. but that the average speed is must be much less than that). I think we both agree that the average speed and the distance between opponent is what is needed to caculate reaction time.

For average badminton players (not amateurs, but also not professionals with very speedy smashes) I think a little more than a second reaction time is the limit.

That's an implausible guess. Even amateurs will often need to react within less than one second.

I think we both agree that the average speed and the distance between opponent is what is needed to caculate reaction time.Not exactly. You haven't accounted for two important questions:
What situations do we count? Smash from the midcourt? From the net?
What kind of reaction is required? How much movement? How complex?You have to be very, very careful before jumping in with a load of assumptions. Finding meaningful or fair comparisons is not as trivial as you might expect; the natural tendency is to dismiss the complexities because they obstruct our opportunity for airing prejudices. ;)

NOT is right. Diarrhea is the fastest and quickest act around.:p
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=718269&postcount=712

would table tennis be considered a racket sport?
yup it is:D:D:D:D:D

i think the title is talking about sports that use objects such as balls, or birds, or puck etc etc which makes it inappropriate to include shooting and diarrhea. :D

I think the old saying 'You can use statistics to prove anything' sums up this entire thread.

For average tabletennis players (i.e. not professionals) the fastest they would require to react is 250 milliseconds (or 1/4 of a second). For average badminton players (not amateurs, but also not professionals with very speedy smashes) I think a little more than a second reaction time is the limit.


Actually, around 200-250 ms is about as fast as anyone can react to a visual cue, professionals included. In research done with baseball and cricket players, the hitters don't start swinging until at least that long after the pitch is released.

The fastest recognised sport is probably pistol shooting. It is held by the hand, just like a table tennis bat, but are we comparing apples with apples?
It makes more sense to compare badminton with other racquet sports/games like tennis, squash and racquetball. A table tennis bat is not a racquet just like baseball, rounders, and cricket bats are not racquets.
The confusion started at the first post, in which the thread title got more confused by the post's statement that badminton is not the fastest racquet sport.

The fastest recognised sport is probably pistol shooting. It is held by the hand, just like a table tennis bat, but are we comparing apples with apples?
It makes more sense to compare badminton with other racquet sports/games like tennis, squash and racquetball. A table tennis bat is not a racquet just like baseball, rounders, and cricket bats are not racquets.
The confusion started at the first post, in which the thread title got more confused by the post's statement that badminton is not the fastest racquet sport.

Just goes to show even a tiny ant can achieve great feats :D in a globalised world!

I probably think ice hockey is the fastest sport as stated by the previous post....the players in ice hockey needs extremely fast reflexes to fire a wristshot or a one-timer....and also brute strength to fire a 100mph slapshot.
Some of the best players skates like they are flying.

A funny thing...some ice hockey players actually played badminton to improve their reflexes and hand eye coordination...I can't remember who...but I think it was Todd Bertuzzi.

But seriously..as a racquet sport....I think it ranks behind squash in terms of speed....

Table tennis paddle don't count as a racquet...it has too short of a handle.

I leave out racquetball as I am not familiar with the game...

1) Squash
2) badminton
3) tennis

But badminton is the most exciting...followed by tennis and lastly squash.

A funny thing...some ice hockey players actually played badminton to improve their reflexes and hand eye coordination...I can't remember who...but I think it was Todd Bertuzzi.

Which would indicate badminton is faster :p , otherwise continuing to play hockey would be better to train their reflexes ;)

/Twobeer

The fastest recognised sport is probably pistol shooting. It is held by the hand, just like a table tennis bat, but are we comparing apples with apples?
It makes more sense to compare badminton with other racquet sports/games like tennis, squash and racquetball. A table tennis bat is not a racquet just like baseball, rounders, and cricket bats are not racquets.
The confusion started at the first post, in which the thread title got more confused by the post's statement that badminton is not the fastest racquet sport.


It's not called a "tabletennis bat" .. its called a "tabletennis racquet". I don't know how racquet is accurately defined, but at least in TT most players call it a racquet .. unless we are speaking some dialect here :P

Anyway.. its just difficult to make a conclusion. We really need some group of scientists or experts to make some experiments to have some possible conclusion here. Yesterday I watched some youtube videos to see if I can make a conclusion.. but Im still undecided. I watched

1. Not very fast but long tabletennis single (Timo Boll vs. Ding Song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFHgmggRE3o&feature=related

2. Some of the really faster tabletennis singles clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGSnyAvI2c

and below one with mostly non-Asians professionals.. (which makes you imagine how faster it could be had they been Asian professionals)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_WrrMhPh0

3. Well.. I really couldnt find a video for a very fast badminton singles.. I found one with bad quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DUsryXnJLM

4. The fastest badminton you can watch is doubles though. But its harder to take reaction times for each player. I watched two of such

Mixed doubles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2k-tsX5KE

Men doubles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqKyF_OPW5c

5, And for the fun of it I watched some TT exhibition match (would never happen in serious games, but stilll cool!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gkxTQGR6zI

and below happened in a real game unfortunately bad quality., but obviously both players where doing it on purpose (though still with good sportsmanship)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byIOARBvvyw

...

I have passion for both sports.. they are both great, who cares which one has a faster ball speed or a faster reaction time. As long as you enjoy them ;)

Just goes to show even a tiny ant can achieve great feats :D in a globalised world!

AHhaha.. such a Tiny Ant indeed.

It's not called a "tabletennis bat" .. its called a "tabletennis racquet". I don't know how racquet is accurately defined, but at least in TT most players call it a racquet .. unless we are speaking some dialect here :P
I have never heard of the bat being referred to as a racquet. Rather interesting.

I believe there are only 4 racquet sports that use racquets in the shape of a round, oval or iso design with a stringbed. Table tennis bats are called by many names, including bats, paddles, blades, and rackets (it must be the only type of racquet without a stringbed, which is rather strange).
Among the 4 orthodox racquet sports, I think it is more meaningful to measure the speed of each sport in elapsed time within a fixed period of time. Measuring the speed of single power shot, be it in squash or tennis or racquetball or badminton, does not really tell us how fast the game is. The number of rallies within, say 1 minute or any fixed time, is more indicative of how fast the game is. Squash appears to be fast but the numerous number of times the ball bounces from one surface to another surface actually slows down its elapsed time.

I believe there are only 4 racquet sports that use racquets in the shape of a round, oval or iso design with a stringbed. Table tennis bats are called by many names, including bats, paddles, blades, and rackets (it must be the only type of racquet without a stringbed, which is rather strange).
Among the 4 orthodox racquet sports, I think it is more meaningful to measure the speed of each sport in elapsed time within a fixed period of time. Measuring the speed of single power shot, be it in squash or tennis or racquetball or badminton, does not really tell us how fast the game is. The number of rallies within, say 1 minute or any fixed time, is more indicative of how fast the game is. Squash appears to be fast but the numerous number of times the ball bounces from one surface to another surface actually slows down its elapsed time.

Hmm... ok.. In the Philippines we call it Rackets and when we go to shop for them they are located in racket area.. and they are also labeled "rackets" (those that are buy are either German or Chinese).

In Germany they call it "Schläger" which is also the term used for Badminton, Tennis, Squash and Bat games (such as cricket, baseball etc.).. so I guess they categorize it differently in Germanic languages.

I think this is just a matter of language. But I know in TT, most players I play with call them rackets (and they come from different places of the world). But its no big deal ;) ) .. I guess the term "bat" is used more buy those with British influence. Bat does sound funny for us at least.