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felix-the-cat
01-26-2000, 12:36 AM
Hi all
Just surfed on the Yonex Japan homepage (http://www.yonex.co.jp/)and saw those new Ti Swing Power rackets (not Ti10, 8, 6,5)! Again, it has 4 models (SX,SS,SA,SR) to choose from. Too bad I can't read Japanese and don't know the spec.
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Hi all
Just surfed on the Yonex Japan homepage (http://www.yonex.co.jp/)and saw those new Ti Swing Power rackets (not Ti10, 8, 6,5)! Again, it has 4 models (SX,SS,SA,SR) to choose from. Too bad I can't read Japanese and don't know the spec.
How do you know it's a new Ti SP? I looked at the Web site and didn't find it under 'new products', but found it under 'rackets'. It looks exactly like the old racket and maybe they just forgot to remove it from the listings. Btw, I don't understand Japanese, so maybe there was some info that indicates otherwise.
forrestyung
08-13-2004, 06:57 AM
How do you know it's a new Ti SP? I looked at the Web site and didn't find it under 'new products', but found it under 'rackets'. It looks exactly like the old racket and maybe they just forgot to remove it from the listings. Btw, I don't understand Japanese, so maybe there was some info that indicates otherwise.
The original post was in 2000.
The original post was in 2000.
Oops, you're right. I never look at the posting date. It was near the top of the thread, so I assumed it was a recent posting. So the Ti SP came out in 2000, I guess.
forrestyung
08-13-2004, 09:58 PM
Hi Novl,
I was also same as you when I was first sight into this thread. :D
Hi Novl,
I was also same as you when I was first sight into this thread. :D
Are you also looking for a replacement of the Ti SP? Darn shame it has been discontinued.
forrestyung
08-15-2004, 09:40 PM
Are you also looking for a replacement of the Ti SP? Darn shame it has been discontinued.
Ti SP is a very good racket. I have tried SX and SS from my friend, good performance and it also can take a high tension easily. But I dislike Iso head shape rackets, so I have not bought it. I will purchase one for collection when it's price drops into new low. :D
Ti SP is a very good racket. I have tried SX and SS from my friend, good performance and it also can take a high tension easily. But I dislike Iso head shape rackets, so I have not bought it. I will purchase one for collection when it's price drops into new low. :D
Good luck buying one. Yonex just took it out of production and I just bought the last one in stock in Holland. I like the racket very much too, but now I have to find a replacement. The Iso head shape makes the sweet spot bigger, which I find a big advantage. What is it that you don't like?
forrestyung
08-18-2004, 08:57 PM
Good luck buying one. Yonex just took it out of production and I just bought the last one in stock in Holland. I like the racket very much too, but now I have to find a replacement. The Iso head shape makes the sweet spot bigger, which I find a big advantage. What is it that you don't like?
Since the feeling, power and hitting sound are totally different between Oval and Iso head. Oval head is my personal preference, in fact Iso can provide more stable hit.
stantan
08-19-2004, 04:10 AM
although Ive moved on to Armortec 700 and later on the 800DE, I am still very much attached to my Iso Ti SS and will never part with it as it is the perfect backup for me, having used it for so many years =)
Since the feeling, power and hitting sound are totally different between Oval and Iso head. Oval head is my personal preference, in fact Iso can provide more stable hit.
You're right, the feel is different. Before I bought the Ti SP a few years ago, I played with MP 77 and before that Yonex Carbonex 8 (believe it or not). I could never switch back to oval head again. It's much more unforgiving and requires more accuracy in your strokes. Which racket are you playing with now?
although Ive moved on to Armortec 700 and later on the 800DE, I am still very much attached to my Iso Ti SS and will never part with it as it is the perfect backup for me, having used it for so many years =)
Could you tell us your opinion about the AT 800 DE? How different does it feel compared with the Ti SP.
forrestyung
08-19-2004, 10:42 PM
You're right, the feel is different. Before I bought the Ti SP a few years ago, I played with MP 77 and before that Yonex Carbonex 8 (believe it or not). I could never switch back to oval head again. It's much more unforgiving and requires more accuracy in your strokes. Which racket are you playing with now?
For Fun and practice, I am now using Cab 8 dx (the aluminum frame one)......., so it is not strange for you use Cab 8 before MP77.
For Game, I am shifting between Boron 2, Cab 20 and Babolat Chrono. Babolat Chrono is an excellent rackets, but the feeling is totally different with Boron 2 and Cab 20, so I am still making selection between them. Boron 2 is hardly to find replacement, the performance of new logo Cab 20 is not as good as old logo. After my all Boron 2 and old logo Cab 20 broken, I may shift to Babolat Chrono.
For Fun and practice, I am now using Cab 8 dx (the aluminum frame one)......., so it is not strange for you use Cab 8 before MP77.
For Game, I am shifting between Boron 2, Cab 20 and Babolat Chrono. Babolat Chrono is an excellent rackets, but the feeling is totally different with Boron 2 and Cab 20, so I am still making selection between them. Boron 2 is hardly to find replacement, the performance of new logo Cab 20 is not as good as old logo. After my all Boron 2 and old logo Cab 20 broken, I may shift to Babolat Chrono.
Those rackets are not familiar to me. What kind of player are you? Defensive or offensive, doubles or singles? I'm a defensive doubles player myself. I'm waiting for racket try-outs at my club and can hardly wait to get my hands on the AT 800 DE and AT 300. From the forum I also read about the Winex SP 900 which is supposedly very similar to the Yonex Ti SP (SS) and cheaper.
forrestyung
08-22-2004, 09:27 PM
Those rackets are not familiar to me. What kind of player are you? Defensive or offensive, doubles or singles? I'm a defensive doubles player myself. I'm waiting for racket try-outs at my club and can hardly wait to get my hands on the AT 800 DE and AT 300. From the forum I also read about the Winex SP 900 which is supposedly very similar to the Yonex Ti SP (SS) and cheaper.
I am a double player (men and mix) and I never determine myself as a defensive player or offensive player.
In fact for every games and every hits, my partner and I must explore all chances to attack for getting points. It is impossible to win if you mainly defense in a double game; on the other hand, your competitors must attack while they have chances, if I defined myself as an offensive player and do not do well in defensive skill, then points will be lost quickly. So, I always think that I must get balance in this issue. Furthermore, due to different competitors in different matches, there are many things to think other than just offense and defense. If a competitor is having many unforced errors, I will defense more. If a competitor is poor in defensive, then I will attack more. Strategies will be different in every match, but it is not possible for me to change rackets match by match.
For selecting rackets, I just select it by I like it. I am lucky that I get many friends and I can test most rackets in the market. :D
stantan
08-22-2004, 10:20 PM
Could you tell us your opinion about the AT 800 DE? How different does it feel compared with the Ti SP.
Hi, Novl.
Although I am not a very advanced player, here is what I can say comparing the two:
The Ti SP SS is long, and long-shafted.
The 800 DE is of the same length but short-shafted and long-handled, like the MP99.
The Ti SP SS is 3u (all Ti SPs are 3U although the SAs seem to be the lightest)
The 800 DE I have is 4u
I find the 800 DE to be FAST. When I mean fast I mean I find my reaction time is much faster with it, making backhands easier and being able to play quick shots and counter-drives very quickly. This also goes with my AT700 4u.
I feel the Ti SP SS is slightly head heavy so its not that big a change moving to an AT700 or either of the 800s. But I also feel I generate more power with the 800 DE, even more than the 4u AT700 but thats just me.
For me, the Ti SP SS excels on the drive and making drops.
I feel that if you are a person who is powerful in his own right and doesnt need technology to give him power through "gadgetry", then the ISO Ti SS will provide you all the stability and reliability you will need.
I am a double player (men and mix) and I never determine myself as a defensive player or offensive player.
In fact for every games and every hits, my partner and I must explore all chances to attack for getting points. It is impossible to win if you mainly defense in a double game; on the other hand, your competitors must attack while they have chances, if I defined myself as an offensive player and do not do well in defensive skill, then points will be lost quickly. So, I always think that I must get balance in this issue. Furthermore, due to different competitors in different matches, there are many things to think other than just offense and defense. If a competitor is having many unforced errors, I will defense more. If a competitor is poor in defensive, then I will attack more. Strategies will be different in every match, but it is not possible for me to change rackets match by match.
For selecting rackets, I just select it by I like it. I am lucky that I get many friends and I can test most rackets in the market. :D
Sure, agree to a certain extent. I also like to take advantage of my opponents' weaknesses. But there are players who are more offensively inclined (maybe because they can smash hard and score points more easily that way) or defensively inclined, like myself because I like to counterattack. My smash is fairly hard, but not hard enough to be decisive in a rally. So I have to get my opponents out of position before I can finish them off. That's why I prefer an evenly-balanced, light-weight racket like the Ti SP. And I would never change rackets match by match because I can only play the same type of game. It's a major shortcoming. If my opponents change tactics, I can barely cope.
Hi, Novl.
Although I am not a very advanced player, here is what I can say comparing the two:
The Ti SP SS is long, and long-shafted.
The 800 DE is of the same length but short-shafted and long-handled, like the MP99.
The Ti SP SS is 3u (all Ti SPs are 3U although the SAs seem to be the lightest)
The 800 DE I have is 4u
I find the 800 DE to be FAST. When I mean fast I mean I find my reaction time is much faster with it, making backhands easier and being able to play quick shots and counter-drives very quickly. This also goes with my AT700 4u.
I feel the Ti SP SS is slightly head heavy so its not that big a change moving to an AT700 or either of the 800s. But I also feel I generate more power with the 800 DE, even more than the 4u AT700 but thats just me.
For me, the Ti SP SS excels on the drive and making drops.
I feel that if you are a person who is powerful in his own right and doesnt need technology to give him power through "gadgetry", then the ISO Ti SS will provide you all the stability and reliability you will need.
Thanks for your insight. It seems like we're similar type of players so your analysis is very helpful. Unfortunately, I need all the 'gadgetry' I can get to produce any power. I really wouldn't know the effect of a shorter shaft and longer handle. I always hold my racket as close to the shaft as possible to make my swing shorter and faster, so maybe there wouldn't be much difference.
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