La Fleche Ti 500 Racquet [Archive] - Page 2 - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

outlah

02-13-2005, 05:23 PM

After some extensive playing with both my 3U and 4U, the clear over coat is starting to crack on the cone where it meets the shaft. Because it is only the clear coat, the cracks only shows up when you bend the shaft, like when you hit the shuttle. I didn't notice it until I was doing short drives during warm up that I heard the creaking noise. I thought the glue was loose or something, but upon closer inspection, I notice that the clear coat was cracking under the pressure of the shaft pushing against the tip of the cone.

All this just means that eventually the clear coat will peel off over time. Just a cosmetic problem, will not affect the racquet itself. Its nice that they applied such a thick coat of clear finish to give the racquet such a glossy shine, but it might be a bit too much at the cone.

I've gotten used to both racquets now, I use the 3U at the beginning and switch to the 4U when I get tired. Although I am still having a little bit of a problem with the 4U on my backhand clears. Just don't seem to be able to clear with it. I'm still thinking if I should get a "production" 4U. Would be nice to get one to compare the prototype with.

duke2000

02-13-2005, 09:37 PM

Please make sure the black bumpers that come with the 4U are original. You might not know, but it is possible to replace the 4U prototype without black bumpers with bumpers, if they want to do so. The real 4U has a shorter and slimmer shaft than the 2U, 3U and 4U prototype.
Tension is a personal thing. All my friends' LF Ti500 2U and 3U are tensioned at 24/26lbs to 25.5/28lbs, and 4U at 23/25lbs to 24/26lbs, and they all seem to like it. However some other forum members prefer lower tension.
Both BG66 and BG68Ti are fine.
I've talk to them on Sat. they said the 4U they have is the one that I want. (They saw attach pics from my e-mail) It comes with bumpers (from the manufacturer).

After thinking for a wile, I call them back to order both 4U and 3U. Then I can compare the shaft of both racket to make sure that the 4U is the new one not the prototype. Otherwise, I'll return the 4U (they have return policy in their web in case that the product they sent is not the one you order in this case I did mention that I don't want the prototype one before I make an order) I can also have a chance to try both models to see which one it suit for me. I can sell the other one to my friend. ;)

I'll post the result again after I got it.

Taneepak, Thanks a lot for your advice.

taneepak

02-14-2005, 03:29 AM

I've gotten used to both racquets now, I use the 3U at the beginning and switch to the 4U when I get tired. Although I am still having a little bit of a problem with the 4U on my backhand clears. Just don't seem to be able to clear with it. I'm still thinking if I should get a "production" 4U. Would be nice to get one to compare the prototype with.

The real 4U with the black bumpers measures exactly 22.8cm from the throat edge (the inner edge of the frame) to the shaft/cone point. Your prototype 4U shaft is longer than this, and has its sweetspot in the wrong place. Hence the lack of effortless repulsion power in clears.
I have an even shorter shaft LF Ti500 (Red), with a 22.4cm throat edge to shaft/cone point, which I can convert from a 2U to a 4U and back again. It plays like the longer shaft standard 2U or 3U but has better recovery.

taneepak

02-14-2005, 03:42 AM

I have just restrung a La Flech Ti 500 3U at 26/28.5lbs for a friend. At this tension it plays much better than at 23/25lbs. However, not everyone likes this higher tension, as only 4 out of 7 people who tested it like it. Not surprisingly, the three players who did not like it say the racquet felt like a brickwall. I am going to try 28/31lbs on my 4U and see how it goes. I think I am going to like it, as I find it quite easy to handle the 26/28.5lbs.
I also strung my MP99 at 26/28.5lbs, and notice the improvement in crisper shots, but the improvement was not to the extent of the LF.

thebestofall

02-14-2005, 04:33 AM

I am a left hand player, I dont know doesnt matter but, I wasnt capable of releasing another extreme power. Eventually, the racket wasnt as good as it sad. I bought a 2U at Inskysport and strung it at 25. I strunged with 68ti. when i smashed, it went to the back line. Eventually, i can clear VERY FAR with this but the smash wasnt strong. Can someone tell whats the problem

outlah

02-14-2005, 11:58 AM

The shaft doesn't seem to be as stiff as other power racquets like the Ti10. So you'll have to adjust your swing to make sure you get the shaft to kick back at the right moment.

charzord

02-14-2005, 12:50 PM

I found out one major flaw about this racket, and that is there are major vibrations if you do an off center hit. It does not happen quite often, but once it does, you will suffer =P. Also, I am used to a TSIP SX, so I am still a bit cautious about swinging too hard witht his racket. I feel like I am goign to break it or soemthing if I swing too hard. :p All in all, this is a good racket. Probably not up to the level of AT 800, but somewhere betweenTi 10 and AT800 OF. I think a 2U might feel better, as the heft of it would generate more power and be more stable?

mtakako

02-14-2005, 04:05 PM

Hmm.. not sure is it only me. But I found the ti500 ( I have the 4U) , to be extremely stiff. I would say it is even stiffer than a ti10. Unless it is just me.

The shaft doesn't seem to be as stiff as other power racquets like the Ti10. So you'll have to adjust your swing to make sure you get the shaft to kick back at the right moment.

outlah

02-14-2005, 04:29 PM

Hmm.. not sure is it only me. But I found the ti500 ( I have the 4U) , to be extremely stiff. I would say it is even stiffer than a ti10. Unless it is just me.

it is? maybe It s time I get a production 4U and check for myself. The question is, whats the cheapest and safest way to go?

Pball

02-16-2005, 11:24 PM

Hmm.. not sure is it only me. But I found the ti500 ( I have the 4U) , to be extremely stiff. I would say it is even stiffer than a ti10. Unless it is just me.

I'm more inclined to agree with outlah.. comparing it to my Karakal sl-70, it, (la fletche) is a bit more flexible.. will be able to try it out later and compare (comparison with be with MMOA MBR-300/ RSL 3200/ Karakal SL-70)

Many thanks again for the kind assistance of TAneepak!!

outlah

02-17-2005, 07:28 AM

I'm more inclined to agree with outlah.. comparing it to my Karakal sl-70, it, (la fletche) is a bit more flexible.. will be able to try it out later and compare (comparison with be with MMOA MBR-300/ RSL 3200/ Karakal SL-70)

Many thanks again for the kind assistance of TAneepak!!

actually, I'm only comparing with my 900SX and my broken AT700. But my friend's SL-70 is indeed stiff, maybe too stiff for such a light racquet.

mtakako

02-17-2005, 02:50 PM

Pball

02-17-2005, 11:32 PM

If you guys compared the ti500 to the Karakal , than yes it is not as stiff. For a racket this light, this is a pretty stiff racket. The only other brand that I had try that are stiffer is the karkal and the carltons ( ASTI and the airblade 1000 and 2000).

I think the MMOA mbr is also a bit stiffer... but wasn't really able to compare it last night... too many rackets too little time... ;)

mtakako

02-19-2005, 12:50 AM

Today I have a chance to play with my newly strung Ti500 4U at 24/26lbs with gosen bio roots 68. This is around my 2.5h marks for using this racket. Finally starting to get used to this racket. This racket is really powerful and it can also generate awesome angles ( probably due to the shaft design). This racket is also very good for returns especially drive returns. For those that are looking for a new racket, this will be a good choice. Taneepak is right, this racket can rival the AT800 DF, it is very good defensively and also can pack a punch when needed.

CanuckBur

03-01-2005, 11:45 PM

"The Canadian agent for La Fleche racquet."

We can buy La Fleche racquet in Canada.

Percy was away but Ronnie is his associate so he can take order from you.
His e-mail address is ronnieng@alumni.sfu.ca.

CanuckBur

05-22-2005, 06:29 PM

I bought the racquet this week. It is strung with BG-66, 25.5/28(lbs). It is a very stylish and interesting racquet. It has attractive decal and colors. Taneepak stated that it has 3 telescopic sections. When I move my finger along the shaft, I can feel the 3 sections. The lines are labelled with 7.0mm, 7.5mm, and 8.0mm (diameters).

http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_shaft1.jpg
http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_sideshaft1.jpg

The bag is also interesting. At first, I chose a blue bag. Then, when I looked at the orange bag, I was attracted to it. The fabric has two different pixels. Outdoor, it has orange color. But at indoor and in low light, it looks reddish.

http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_wallbag1.jpg

The SuperLight 4U: the length of the shaft from the inner side of the frame rim at the throat to the boundary line bewteen the shaft and the cone is about 22.95 cm. The balance point with the BG-66 string and handle clingwrap is about 30.6 cm.

High Modulus Graphite:

http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_framehmg1.jpg (ftp://fraser.sfu.ca/pub_html/IMG_shaft1.jpg)

Wide Body Technology:

http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_sideframe1.jpg

Super Velocity Form:

http://www.sfu.ca/%7Ectkuan/IMG_framesfv1.jpg

The racquet will be wrapped with a blue super grap.:D

Battousai

05-30-2005, 05:03 PM

Canuckbur how much did you pay for the racquect and did you get it from the Canadian seller of La Fleche??

CanuckBur

05-30-2005, 09:00 PM

Canuckbur how much did you pay for the racquect and did you get it from the Canadian seller of La Fleche??

Yes, I got it from the Canadian agent (Ronnie). I paid $148 for the SuperLight (4U) with BG-66. The price is higher than a few months ago. But, I think it is because of the revision of the new 4U. The agent got his new shipment about one month ago.

* This is a cool racquet * :cool:

prophet

06-04-2005, 10:53 PM

Just recently got back from a trip to Hong Kong, and thanks to taneepak, who helped get me in touch with Cheung Tung (owner of Inskysports), I got a chance to play and test some La Fleche rackets.

I'm definitely sold on these racquets. I purchased a LF Ti500 Long and Ti500 Superlight. I've been using a MP99 (and used MP77 and ti7 in the past) and I find the Ti500 generates greater power and is also quicker for both offense and defense in doubles. It also has great touch for drops. The Superlight generates an awesome 'whip like' power and clears are effortless. I'm not going to go into detail here (I'm not a technical expert like taneepak) but suffice it to say that I was so impressed with the La Fleche racquets, I asked Inskysports if I could distribute their racquets in the USA!

I don't want to break any forum rules, so if you are want additional info on purchasing a La Fleche racquet from the US, PM me directly or contact me at inskyusa@yahoo.com

Also If you are in the San Francisco bay area and want to demo a racquet, PM me directly.

Cheers,

Battousai

06-13-2005, 06:29 PM

Is the la fleche ti500 regular 66.5cm or long 67.5cm long???

catbear

06-24-2005, 02:05 AM

Hi Ee Pak,

Thanks for your info on the Ti500. Can you please give a comparison with YY's Ti10?

Many thanks...

CB.

taneepak

06-24-2005, 10:14 PM

Hi Ee Pak,

Thanks for your info on the Ti500. Can you please give a comparison with YY's Ti10?

Many thanks...

CB.

The last time I owned a Yonex Ti10 was about 2 years ago, although I do try them out using my friends' racquets. The La Fleche Ti500 is comparable and in my opinion better than the Ti10. However, some may disagree.

Battousai

06-25-2005, 09:36 PM

I am confused about the balck bumpers on the 4U version. Where is it supposed to be and what does it look like? Can anyone post the prototype racquet and the new revised version side by side so we can see the difference? And does anyone know if Ronnie sells the revised or prototype version? Thx

worms

07-05-2005, 06:40 AM

The real 4U with the black bumpers measures exactly 22.8cm from the throat edge (the inner edge of the frame) to the shaft/cone point. Your prototype 4U shaft is longer than this, and has its sweetspot in the wrong place. Hence the lack of effortless repulsion power in clears.
I have an even shorter shaft LF Ti500 (Red), with a 22.4cm throat edge to shaft/cone point, which I can convert from a 2U to a 4U and back again. It plays like the longer shaft standard 2U or 3U but has better recovery.

hi taneepak first of all i would like to thank you.
Since the beginning of this thread i was very interested with the LF 500 so i got myself a 3u cant remember the weight then and the b/p was i think 30.2 with 22/24 tension and It felt ok. Then i tried to follow your modifications of taking off the solid gel inside the grip, now its weight is 91.4 and the b/p is 31.4 tension is 24/26. and guess what? A totally different racket (awesome!!!:D ) everything improved. thanks a lot taneepak.

Now i would like to ask a favor. if you dont mind (please)

I have a new LF 500 3u and it has the 4 bumpers, big hole and big grommet in the 6th hole and small hole and small grommet in the 7th hole (below, near shaft) it has a shorter shaft and a longer butt to cone grip measurement. it weighed 85.1 w/o strings with a b/p of 30.3 measured from butt. After stringing 24/26 it now weighs 88.7 with a b/p of 31.3 without any modification.

Now my favor:) . I was wondering if you could help me improve its performance, probably by changing b/p etc. you are the master. 2nd favor hehe you mentioned this that the new grommet comes with a new stringing instruction. mine did not come with any instuction so what i did was for the mains my starting knots is on the 8th grommet(below) and my ending knot is on the 8th grommet(below) opposite side. my crosses started at the 6th grommet below and ended at the 6th grommet above same side. dont know if this is correct. please tell me if its wrong and how to correct it. thanks in advance.

By the way never heard in this thread of a 3u with the new grommet holes. I thought they made it only for the 4u.:confused:

taneepak

07-05-2005, 06:53 PM

hi taneepak first of all i would like to thank you.
Since the beginning of this thread i was very interested with the LF 500 so i got myself a 3u cant remember the weight then and the b/p was i think 30.2 with 22/24 tension and It felt ok. Then i tried to follow your modifications of taking off the solid gel inside the grip, now its weight is 91.4 and the b/p is 31.4 tension is 24/26. and guess what? A totally different racket (awesome!!!:D ) everything improved. thanks a lot taneepak.

Now i would like to ask a favor. if you dont mind (please)

I have a new LF 500 3u and it has the 4 bumpers, big hole and big grommet in the 6th hole and small hole and small grommet in the 7th hole (below, near shaft) it has a shorter shaft and a longer butt to cone grip measurement. it weighed 85.1 w/o strings with a b/p of 30.3 measured from butt. After stringing 24/26 it now weighs 88.7 with a b/p of 31.3 without any modification.

Now my favor:) . I was wondering if you could help me improve its performance, probably by changing b/p etc. you are the master. 2nd favor hehe you mentioned this that the new grommet comes with a new stringing instruction. mine did not come with any instuction so what i did was for the mains my starting knots is on the 8th grommet(below) and my ending knot is on the 8th grommet(below) opposite side. my crosses started at the 6th grommet below and ended at the 6th grommet above same side. dont know if this is correct. please tell me if its wrong and how to correct it. thanks in advance.

By the way never heard in this thread of a 3u with the new grommet holes. I thought they made it only for the 4u.:confused:

That is a long one. Anyway, your latest racquet is the newest version of the La Fleche Ti500, which came out about a month ago. It is similar to the first prototype (red) that was made for me last December and I am glad they have decided to use this version, as I think it is better.
They have decided not to include any stringing instructions with the racquet, I think because of some references to me.
I will pm you separately re your stringing.
Regards.
Ee Pak

worms

07-06-2005, 03:39 AM

That is a long one. Anyway, your latest racquet is the newest version of the La Fleche Ti500, which came out about a month ago. It is similar to the first prototype (red) that was made for me last December and I am glad they have decided to use this version, as I think it is better.
They have decided not to include any stringing instructions with the racquet, I think because of some references to me.
I will pm you separately re your stringing.
Regards.
Ee Pak

hi taneepak thanks a lot for everything its nice to have a new friend
With regards:
1) to the stringing i think my stringer got it right.
2) to the new racket it was awesome w/o any modification,a lot better than my old LF500.
but i was just wondering if i can get more out of it in terms of power(smashing)
if i change the b/p to 31.5 or even 32. what will happen? and how will i know if ive overdone it?
any input will be greatly appreciated and thanks again

worms

07-06-2005, 10:45 PM

hi taneepak thanks a lot for everything its nice to have a new friend
With regards:
1) to the stringing i think my stringer got it right.
2) to the new racket it was awesome w/o any modification,a lot better than my old LF500.
but i was just wondering if i can get more out of it in terms of power(smashing)
if i change the b/p to 31.5 or even 32. what will happen? and how will i know if ive overdone it?
any input will be greatly appreciated and thanks again:)

if i change the b/p from 31.3 to 31.5 or even 32 what will happen? and how will i know if ive overdone it? will the sweetspot change(become smaller or lower)? will it loose any power? or just head heavier but good for smashing?:confused: thanks

taneepak

07-08-2005, 02:02 AM

if i change the b/p from 31.3 to 31.5 or even 32 what will happen? and how will i know if ive overdone it? will the sweetspot change(become smaller or lower)? will it loose any power? or just head heavier but good for smashing?:confused: thanks

You can also get more power by using titanium strings of 0.68mm diameter, strung to my standard 26.3 lbs mains and 30 lbs crosses. But it is safer and better to use a 6-point machine for the stringing.
Re b/p, what you are referring to is the static b/p. However, it so happens that your racquet's static b/p of 31.3cm also gives you a near optimal dynamic b/p. If you are a perfectionist and if you know your racquet well, like the 31.3cm b/p, then stick to this, but re-balance it after each change of string and/or grip.

taneepak

07-08-2005, 02:21 AM

1) to the stringing i think my stringer got it right.

Can you let me know from which grommet did the string with the tie-off knot at grommet #8 come from? If it comes from grommet #12, it is no good. It should be from grommet #10.
Don't start the crosses from the bottom. It should start with a starting knot (not tie-off knot) at the top grommet #6 and with the first cross string through grommet #7. The last cross string must go through grommet #9 bottom and the tie-off at grommet #6, in alignment with the starting knot. This is important as it corrects the adverse effects of locating the starting knot at the top grommet #6. The newest La Fleche Ti500 grommet system ensures that you cannot use any other grommet for this final cross tie-off knot. The last cross string must be tensioned at 33-35lbs, if you use 30lbs for the crosses.

Neil Nicholls

07-08-2005, 03:43 AM

Re b/p, what you are referring to is the static b/p. However, it so happens that your racquet's static b/p of 31.3cm also gives you a near optimal dynamic b/p. If you are a perfectionist and if you know your racquet well, like the 31.3cm b/p, then stick to this, but re-balance it after each change of string and/or grip.

How are you supposed to re-balance it? :confused:

moving the static b/p can be achieved by
1) adding weight on one side
2) removing weight from the other side
3) a combination of 1 and 2

but 1,2 and 3 will all have completely different dynamic effects on the racquet

if you change strings and the new strnigs are heavier, adding weight at the handle end will not re-balance it dynamically.

taneepak

07-08-2005, 04:16 AM

How are you supposed to re-balance it? :confused:

moving the static b/p can be achieved by
1) adding weight on one side
2) removing weight from the other side
3) a combination of 1 and 2

but 1,2 and 3 will all have completely different dynamic effects on the racquet

if you change strings and the new strnigs are heavier, adding weight at the handle end will not re-balance it dynamically.

Once your racquet is balanced right, any change in strings and grip will affect it, the strings less, the grip can be little or more. If you change from a BG66 to a BGti68, the weight difference maybe only 0.1 to 0.2g. Adding about 0.2g in the form of a short strip of grip finishing tape at the cone, or at about 21cm from the butt end onto the wood handle. However, the change maybe too small for you to feel the difference.Changing to a much heavier grip poses major problems. I specialize in this area. Don't ask me for details. :D

LouisW

07-08-2005, 04:27 AM

Once your racquet is balanced right, any change in strings and grip will affect it, the strings less, the grip can be little or more. If you change from a BG66 to a BGti68, the weight difference maybe only 0.1 to 0.2g. Adding about 0.2g in the form of a short strip of grip finishing tape at the cone, or at about 21cm from the butt end onto the wood handle. However, the change maybe too small for you to feel the difference.Changing to a much heavier grip poses major problems. I specialize in this area. Don't ask me for details. :D

tan,

you are right! eventhought I don't owned a La Flech but the change of difference types of grip really affect my game play.:crying:

Neil Nicholls

07-08-2005, 05:17 AM

Changing to a much heavier grip poses major problems. I specialize in this area. Don't ask me for details. :D
Does it make a difference if you wear a gold ring (or any heavy metal) on one of the fingers of your racquet hand?
Or if you wear a watch on your racquet arm?

Neil Nicholls

07-08-2005, 05:24 AM

If you change from a BG66 to a BGti68, the weight difference maybe only 0.1 to 0.2g. Adding about 0.2g in the form of a short strip of grip finishing tape at the cone, or at about 21cm from the butt end onto the wood handle.
If the strings get heavier, the swingweight goes up.
Adding more weight cannot reduce the swingweight.

worms

07-08-2005, 06:03 AM

Can you let me know from which grommet did the string with the tie-off knot at grommet #8 come from? If it comes from grommet #12, it is no good. It should be from grommet #10.
Don't start the crosses from the bottom. It should start with a starting knot (not tie-off knot) at the top grommet #6 and with the first cross string through grommet #7. The last cross string must go through grommet #9 bottom and the tie-off at grommet #6, in alignment with the starting knot. This is important as it corrects the adverse effects of locating the starting knot at the top grommet #6. The newest La Fleche Ti500 grommet system ensures that you cannot use any other grommet for this final cross tie-off knot. The last cross string must be tensioned at 33-35lbs, if you use 30lbs for the crosses.

hi taneepak
my stringing is correct base on your (this) discription. thanks

taneepak

07-09-2005, 12:53 AM

Does it make a difference if you wear a gold ring (or any heavy metal) on one of the fingers of your racquet hand?
Or if you wear a watch on your racquet arm?

Not really, except that it may get in your way or that you may be distracted by the possibilty of the precious piece flying off. :D

Neil Nicholls

07-10-2005, 05:23 AM

Not really, except that it may get in your way or that you may be distracted by the possibilty of the precious piece flying off. :D
Oh?
So how is adding weight to the grip different to adding weight to the hand you hold the grip with?

blinan8088

07-10-2005, 09:56 AM

Would you recommend me where I can get this La Fleche Ti 500 in Indonesia or Singapore? Or perhaps the name or email whom I should contact to get this racket?

Thanks in advance. :)

crazy_doraemon

07-10-2005, 11:51 AM

does any1 know where to buy the 4U version w/ bumpers in HK? how much does it cost and how can u tell the difference between a 4U w/ bumpers and a 4U without bumpers cuz i cant seem to tell:crying:

worms

07-11-2005, 05:28 AM

You can also get more power by using titanium strings of 0.68mm diameter, strung to my standard 26.3 lbs mains and 30 lbs crosses. But it is safer and better to use a 6-point machine for the stringing.
Re b/p, what you are referring to is the static b/p. However, it so happens that your racquet's static b/p of 31.3cm also gives you a near optimal dynamic b/p. If you are a perfectionist and if you know your racquet well, like the 31.3cm b/p, then stick to this, but re-balance it after each change of string and/or grip.

hi taneepak
i plan to get a 4u. what would be a good static b/p? the same as 3u, 31.3cm or a little higher 31.5cm
thanks for any info
regards
worms

taneepak

07-11-2005, 06:10 AM

hi taneepak
i plan to get a 4u. what would be a good static b/p? the same as 3u, 31.3cm or a little higher 31.5cm
thanks for any info
regards
worms

It depends on each racquet, even if it is of the same brand and weight. Best way to find out is to test it on the court, the startintg point.

taneepak

07-13-2005, 03:19 AM

does any1 know where to buy the 4U version w/ bumpers in HK? how much does it cost and how can u tell the difference between a 4U w/ bumpers and a 4U without bumpers cuz i cant seem to tell:crying:

The presence of the bumpers is no guarantee that you get the latest model. Anyone can change the bumpers, which are there to dampen string vibrations caused by long middle main strings. I do this all the time, usually on very long iso frames, if the owners complain about vibrations.
The only way you can find out is from the grommet setup at the throat end. La Fleche racquets with enlarged grommets #6 (for the final cross string tie-off knot), and single-pass grommets #7, the latter to prevent them from being used for tie-off knots, are the latest Ti500 2U 3U and 4U series model. Other La Fleche models have a more universal grommet setup-single-pass grommets #6 and enlarged grommets #7, the reverse of the Ti500.

worms

07-17-2005, 10:50 PM

It depends on each racquet, even if it is of the same brand and weight. Best way to find out is to test it on the court, the startintg point.

you mentioned before you were trying to hit 32 cm b/p on your 4u. by the way how did it go? and whats your static b/p now on your 4u

taneepak

07-18-2005, 01:40 AM

you mentioned before you were trying to hit 32 cm b/p on your 4u. by the way how did it go? and whats your static b/p now on your 4u

I have no more 4U-the last one I sold about a few months ago. I do remember that the optimal b/p for the La Fleche Ti500 varies, from 29.5cm to 32cm. Each racquet is different, because manufacturing is not perfect. Two racquets from the same production batch may perform differently. Your starting point to finding your optimal b/p is to test the racquet on the courts, and then re-balance it.

worms

07-18-2005, 03:30 AM

I have no more 4U-the last one I sold about a few months ago. I do remember that the optimal b/p for the La Fleche Ti500 varies, from 29.5cm to 32cm. Each racquet is different, because manufacturing is not perfect. Two racquets from the same production batch may perform differently. Your starting point to finding your optimal b/p is to test the racquet on the courts, and then re-balance it.

taneepak are you still using ti 500 3u now or another racket?

taneepak

07-19-2005, 03:46 AM

taneepak are you still using ti 500 3u now or another racket?

I have about 20 racquets, which I modify every few weeks, and evaluate them against my AT700, AT800DE, and MP99. I now have only one La Fleche Ti500, the rest have gone to whoever were interesred in them. All my La Fleche Ti500 have no real 3U or 4U or 2U because I end up changing them.

worms

07-19-2005, 03:58 AM

I have about 20 racquets, which I modify every few weeks, and evaluate them against my AT700, AT800DE, and MP99. I now have only one La Fleche Ti500, the rest have gone to whoever were interesred in them. All my La Fleche Ti500 have no real 3U or 4U or 2U because I end up changing them.

i have at700 4u, and at800de 3 and 4u but never tried to change their B/P.
taneepak if you dont mind can i please ask your b/p for both rackets?

worms

07-19-2005, 04:03 AM

I have about 20 racquets, which I modify every few weeks, and evaluate them against my AT700, AT800DE, and MP99. I now have only one La Fleche Ti500, the rest have gone to whoever were interesred in them. All my La Fleche Ti500 have no real 3U or 4U or 2U because I end up changing them.

taneepak in your expert opinion with the racket you have in what configuration is the best for the lf ti 500 (2u,3u,or 4u and what static b/p?) considering you change them all the time.

smashmouth

07-19-2005, 05:13 AM

Where in manila can I find a la fleche racquet? Is it already available here?

worms

07-19-2005, 06:17 AM

Where in manila can I find a la fleche racquet? Is it already available here?

there are still no dealers in metro manila however there is a shop soon to open in cebu you can call edward (0917 621 1168) for inquiries about la fleche products.

taneepak

07-20-2005, 01:16 AM

taneepak in your expert opinion with the racket you have in what configuration is the best for the lf ti 500 (2u,3u,or 4u and what static b/p?) considering you change them all the time.

I have to-date modified about 30 La Fleche Ti500 racquets, and all seemed to have the same balance feel but the static b/p varied from about 29.5cm to slightly less than 32.0cm. This means they were all different.

taneepak

07-20-2005, 01:20 AM

i have at700 4u, and at800de 3 and 4u but never tried to change their B/P.
taneepak if you dont mind can i please ask your b/p for both rackets?

My AT800DE has a b/p of 30.9cm with strings; the AT700 31.5cm, also with strings. But both, although good, are no match for my own personal La Fleche Ti500, which I believe is the best that has so far been produced. In case you have any ideas, it is not for sale. :D

worms

07-20-2005, 07:18 AM

My AT800DE has a b/p of 30.9cm with strings; the AT700 31.5cm, also with strings. But both, although good, are no match for my own personal La Fleche Ti500, which I believe is the best that has so far been produced. In case you have any ideas, it is not for sale. :D

hahaha:o unlucky me:crying: is there any way you can do a replica?:rolleyes: or if not can u modify one 4u or 3u for me?:confused: for a fee of course.:D

by the way is your 800de 3u or 4u? how about your 700?

taneepak

07-20-2005, 07:54 AM

hahaha:o unlucky me:crying: is there any way you can do a replica?:rolleyes: or if not can u modify one 4u or 3u for me?:confused: for a fee of course.:D

by the way is your 800de 3u or 4u? how about your 700?

Yes, I can modify your racquets. But it takes at least a week. Also the strings and grip must be stripped and replaced. There is also some risk-on average I damage one racquet out of ten. :D
Both my AT700 and AT800DE are 3U; my two MP99 2U.

crazy_doraemon

07-20-2005, 08:52 PM

where can u buy a la fleche 500 in hk and which 1 is better, 3u or 4u...? thx

taneepak

07-20-2005, 11:18 PM

hahaha:o unlucky me:crying: is there any way you can do a replica?:rolleyes: or if not can u modify one 4u or 3u for me?:confused: for a fee of course.:D

I think I am on the brink of doing even better than 'a replica'. When the time comes I will let you have my La Fleche Ti500, the current unchallenged La Fleche top dog, for a reasonable price. :D

worms

07-21-2005, 12:35 AM

I think I am on the brink of doing even better than 'a replica'. When the time comes I will let you have my La Fleche Ti500, the current unchallenged La Fleche top dog, for a reasonable price. :D

thanks a lot taneepak :D but just wondering when will that time come? hehe
anyway thanks again in advance.

jhl

07-21-2005, 12:56 PM

I just want to say I am fortunate and grateful to have a LF500 thats been through the hands of TEP :p and the man is a class act in every sense of the word

worms

07-22-2005, 04:09 AM

I just want to say I am fortunate and grateful to have a LF500 thats been through the hands of TEP :p and the man is a class act in every sense of the word

thats what i heared and you can even read between the lines of his posts that he really knows what he is talking about.

by the way jhl would you be kind enough to write the reviews/performance of your lf500.

one more thing if god permits i think it wont be long that i would also be one of the fortunate and grateful owners of a lf500 thats been through the hands of tep;) according to taneepak he is already on the brink of selling to me (reasonable price) THE LF TI 500 UNDISPUTED TOP DOG!!!:D

taneepak

07-22-2005, 06:40 AM

Worms, you have backed me into a corner. :D Help. :crying:

worms

07-22-2005, 06:50 AM

Worms, you have backed me into a corner. :D Help. :crying:

TANEEPAK dont you worry im a very patient man ill just wait.(eagerly waiting):D
but pls dont break the topdog:)

lsk_rulez

07-22-2005, 11:14 PM

Anyone know of La Fleche store/dealer in Toronto/Windsor area?

angelus

07-23-2005, 12:35 AM

how much is the La Fleche Ti-500 and Ti-600 in the Philippines? please advice. thanks.

worms

07-26-2005, 12:36 AM

how much is the La Fleche Ti-500 and Ti-600 in the Philippines? please advice. thanks.

edward's prices: cel no. 0917-621-1168
lf ti 500 3u = 4000 php
lf ti 500 4u = 4900 (superlight)

lf ti 600 3u = 4950
lf ti 600 4u = 5700 (superlight)

pelican

08-06-2005, 09:19 PM

hi all,

this post lasted for a year, amazing.
anybody know where i can buy/see this racket in SIngapore?
How to be their agent in Sg, if they don't have one here.....

taneepak

08-07-2005, 12:15 AM

hi all,

this post lasted for a year, amazing.
anybody know where i can buy/see this racket in SIngapore?
How to be their agent in Sg, if they don't have one here.....

You can pm jhl in Singapore and ask him if you can join him in some games and try out his La Fleche Ti500, before committing yourself. Another Singapore contact for a try out is thru Loh, but that La Fleche Ti500 is not on par with jhl's. There is another chap in Malaysia, and also one in Brunei, who have what I would consider a class 'A' standard La Fleche Ti500 (jhl has the same class). :D

ants

08-07-2005, 04:45 AM

I've tried the ti500. In terms of all the model of Ti in the La fleche range. the ti500 is the best IMO. Its more of a head heavy side. Good respond both in fast drives and clear. Power is fairly good. One thing it lacks is control ( maybe is because the one i tried is low in tension ) according to my friend its 28lbs , but i think its around 24lbs to 25lbs.

I can feel some vibration when using this racket. Don't really feel solid impact.

Overall it is a good racket in that price range.

ToMitch

08-07-2005, 04:48 AM

ants: Which Ti500 are you referring to, the 3U or 4U?

ants

08-07-2005, 04:49 AM

ants: Which Ti500 are you referring to, the 3U or 4U?

3U. the one i tested was a 3UG4

ToMitch

08-07-2005, 06:10 AM

3U. the one i tested was a 3UG4

Thanks for the info ants!

I'm guessing you tried Pball's test rackets.

I tried them out too. I liked the 4U Ti500 and 3U Ti400 best. I wasn't able to try the 3U Ti500 though.

The one thing I noticed about La Fleche rackets is that they tend to vibrate a lot upon impact with the shuttle.

ants

08-07-2005, 08:16 AM

Thanks for the info ants!

I'm guessing you tried Pball's test rackets.

I tried them out too. I liked the 4U Ti500 and 3U Ti400 best. I wasn't able to try the 3U Ti500 though.

The one thing I noticed about La Fleche rackets is that they tend to vibrate a lot upon impact with the shuttle.

I do agree with you on that.

Pball

08-07-2005, 01:51 PM

Jesus, I must be really a lousy player or not observant at all, don't feel any vibration... you guys lent me your rackets next time... eheheh

shutterbox

08-08-2005, 01:20 AM

Hi guys,

May I know if this La Fleche racket Ti500 is available in Singapore already?

taneepak

08-08-2005, 02:47 AM

Racquets that have very stiff frame (kevlar) or a large frame (iso) tend to have more vibration, the former due to it's stiffness (very little to dampen anything) and the latter due to it's larger sweetspot from it's longer main strings. Heavy racquets have less vibrations than light racquets. Not hitting the shuttle well, like off-centre hits, produces more vibrations. Gripping the handle improperly, i.e. too tight will make you feel more vibrations.
You know the reason why most modern iso racquets have grommet stripes (bumpers) at the 8 middle grommets at the throat end. Yes, they are there to reduce vibrations. Holding the handle loose will also reduce vibrations, more so than having a thicker grip. Not hitting the shuttle off-centre will also reduce vibrations.

worms

08-19-2005, 07:09 AM

I think I am on the brink of doing even better than 'a replica'. When the time comes I will let you have my La Fleche Ti500, the current unchallenged La Fleche top dog, for a reasonable price. :D

hi taneepak just want to ask you if the time has come:D for me to own the top dog. eagerly waiting:)

taneepak

08-20-2005, 01:29 AM

hi taneepak just want to ask you if the time has come:D for me to own the top dog. eagerly waiting:)

Someone stole my La Fleche racquet and my expensive water bottle when I was playing in a public badminton hall a week ago. My friend lost his also. How sad. :crying: Now I have to make do with my retired MP99, AT700 and AT800DE, until I come up with something new.

worms

08-20-2005, 03:57 AM

Someone stole my La Fleche racquet and my expensive water bottle when I was playing in a public badminton hall a week ago. My friend lost his also. How sad. :crying: Now I have to make do with my retired MP99, AT700 and AT800DE, until I come up with something new.

:( Im sorry taneepak. you should have sold it to me. now i wont have any chance owning a class A lf 500:crying:

taneepak

08-29-2005, 08:36 AM

:( Im sorry taneepak. you should have sold it to me. now i wont have any chance owning a class A lf 500:crying:

Sorry about that. However, I have a friend who is keen to trade in his LF Ti500 Class A with my new racquet toy. If you are interested I will then agree to the deal and then sell you his LF. It is a class A LF, slightly below the one that I lost, but still better than the average standard LFTi500. It is a used racquet but the condition looks ok and quite new. Pls pm me if you have any interest. If I don't hear from you, this 3-party deal is off.

pommyg

08-29-2005, 09:44 AM

Wow, great racket. I used one once and it felt really good. Good luck.

Pommy

(**********************************)

worms

08-30-2005, 10:07 PM

Sorry about that. However, I have a friend who is keen to trade in his LF Ti500 Class A with my new racquet toy. If you are interested I will then agree to the deal and then sell you his LF. It is a class A LF, slightly below the one that I lost, but still better than the average standard LFTi500. It is a used racquet but the condition looks ok and quite new. Pls pm me if you have any interest. If I don't hear from you, this 3-party deal is off.

hi taneepak nice to hear from you.:D im very interested. sorry i was not able to answer you right away. i didnt have access to a computer. i was out of the country. in fact i was in hkg just arrived yesturday morning. so what do you want me to do?:confused:

Locomoco

08-30-2005, 10:32 PM

Curses! If you weren't interested in the racket, I was next in line... :crying:

taneepak

08-31-2005, 02:05 AM

hi taneepak nice to hear from you.:D im very interested. sorry i was not able to answer you right away. i didnt have access to a computer. i was out of the country. in fact i was in hkg just arrived yesturday morning. so what do you want me to do?:confused:

Just give me a call at 24525911 or 94562733.

taneepak

09-01-2005, 08:27 PM

ants

09-01-2005, 08:30 PM

Someone stole my La Fleche racquet and my expensive water bottle when I was playing in a public badminton hall a week ago. My friend lost his also. How sad. :crying: Now I have to make do with my retired MP99, AT700 and AT800DE, until I come up with something new.

So sorry to hear that. Did you manage to play with a new racket now?

Locomoco

09-01-2005, 09:21 PM

I keep getting ants and worms confused... :p

taneepak

09-01-2005, 09:22 PM

So sorry to hear that. Did you manage to play with a new racket now?

I am trying out my new toy now. It is very low end in cost but it is good enough, for me, to retire my trio of AT700, AT800DE and MP99 for the time being. :D

Pete LSD

09-01-2005, 09:27 PM

How big is your water bottle? Do you carry a huge water container to clubs?

Someone stole my La Fleche racquet and my expensive water bottle when I was playing in a public badminton hall a week ago. My friend lost his also. How sad. :crying: Now I have to make do with my retired MP99, AT700 and AT800DE, until I come up with something new.

taneepak

09-01-2005, 11:05 PM

How big is your water bottle? Do you carry a huge water container to clubs?

The one that I lost was a stainless steel vacuum bottle, Japanese made. It could store cold or hot drinks. It had a capacity of 1.25 litres, which I used to store my pocari sweat drink when playing in airconditioned courts, supplemented by tap water when I needed more fluid intake. On non-aircoditioned courts I used to use two plastic bottles totalling 3 litres of pocari sweat.

worms

09-03-2005, 03:44 AM

Hi Worms,
As requested I have pm you the necessary information you requested for your next step. If all goes well you should get it by next thursday.

Hi Taneepak, my friend will arrive in hkg on mon. after she goes to the bank she will call you. I cant wait im so excited.
btw they are leaving for the phil. on the 7th (wed.) early morning.

taneepak

09-05-2005, 01:27 AM

Hi Taneepak, my friend will arrive in hkg on mon. after she goes to the bank she will call you. I cant wait im so excited.
btw they are leaving for the phil. on the 7th (wed.) early morning.

Hi Worms,
A liitle hitch but have made alternative arrangement. Pls read your pm for details and then let me know.

worms

09-05-2005, 03:24 AM

Hi Worms,
A liitle hitch but have made alternative arrangement. Pls read your pm for details and then let me know.

Hi taneepak,
Im ok with the arrangement thanks a lot:D

Daylightkiller

09-08-2005, 09:13 PM

does inskysports have a store in HK, if so what is the address?

CanuckBur

11-20-2005, 05:22 AM

DinkAlot

11-20-2005, 06:21 AM

Hi,

My Lf-500 is in excellent condition but its cone has 5 hairline cracks at its tip (where it meets the shaft). There wasn't any collision with another racquet, just a lot of smashing during the week. Then, I noticed the hairline fractures on the cone. Should I be worry about the cracks? Thanks for the help.

:eek: :eek: :eek: What's the string tension? Who strung it and how? Sorry to hear. :(

outlah

11-20-2005, 08:51 AM

Hi,

My Lf-500 is in excellent condition but its cone has 5 hairline cracks at its tip (where it meets the shaft). There wasn't any collision with another racquet, just a lot of smashing during the week. Then, I noticed the hairline fractures on the cone. Should I be worry about the cracks? Thanks for the help.

It's just the paint, don't worry. Several Yonex series suffer the same problem. Over time, the paint will slowly chip off and you will see the cone isn't crack at all. But if you must know now, you can scratch the paint off.

CanuckBur

11-21-2005, 04:34 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek: What's the string tension? Who strung it and how? Sorry to hear. :(

The damage has nothing to do with the string tension :) To answer your question, it is BG-68 Ti 25x27.

Daylightkiller

11-21-2005, 04:44 AM

yep, it can't be due to tension, anyways, if you don't feel a decrease in performance then don't worry about it!:D unless you are still within the time where u can replace it. Great raquet anyways

CanuckBur

11-21-2005, 04:49 AM

It's just the paint, don't worry. Several Yonex series suffer the same problem. Over time, the paint will slowly chip off and you will see the cone isn't crack at all. But if you must know now, you can scratch the paint off.

Unfortunately, the damage is real. Although they are hairline fractures, they are quite visible. I am thinking of closing them with glue.

CanuckBur

11-21-2005, 05:06 AM

yep, it can't be due to tension, anyways, if you don't feel a decrease in performance then don't worry about it!:D unless you are still within the time where u can replace it. Great raquet anyways
I like it a lot. I may get another LF soon. May be a LF-600 for single-play? :D

DinkAlot

11-21-2005, 11:32 AM

The damage has nothing to do with the string tension :) To answer your question, it is BG-68 Ti 25x27.

OK, just checking. Have to rule out all options. :p

DinkAlot

11-21-2005, 11:34 AM

Unfortunately, the damage is real. Although they are hairline fractures, they are quite visible. I am thinking of closing them with glue.

Errrr... "closing them" with glue is not going to solve the problem. Best to return the racket if possible or just stop playing with the racket. It could potentially be a hazardous.

CanuckBur

11-25-2005, 04:33 AM

Hi,

Has anyone got both Lf-500 and Lf-600? Taneepak once mentioned that Lf-600 is for single-match. What is your experience of using the Lf-600 for single-match?

-Silver-

11-25-2005, 06:10 AM

anybody know where can i get LF 500 or LF 600 in singapore?

thx

onegoodsoul

11-25-2005, 09:24 AM

LF 600 will be an excellent racket for singles play.
It generates ample power, and if your wrist flicks are good enough, you'll get a lot of satisfaction out of the racket.

Naturally, it is not as good a defensive racket, but offensively, it matches some of the better rackets out there.

Just in case you're looking for a very powerful racket, i'll recommend SOTX Woven 7 though. The power that racket generates is simply mindblowing.

Hi,

Has anyone got both Lf-500 and Lf-600? Taneepak once mentioned that Lf-600 is for single-match. What is your experience of using the Lf-600 for single-match?

CanuckBur

11-25-2005, 10:43 PM

Sotx Woven sounds good. Some members mentioned that Woven 9 is quite a performer. I am satisfied with my Lf-500. It is a lot of fun to play with feather shuttle (or, badminton is more fun when playing with feather shuttle). It will be interesting to see what the Lf-600 can do. Thanks.

DinkAlot

11-26-2005, 01:45 AM

Sotx Woven sounds good. Some members mentioned that Woven 9 is quite a performer.

Yes, the SOTX Woven series is excellent. Here's my synopsis:

Woven 7: super attack racket. Great for generating power and smashing, a heavier swinging racket, endloaded. Defense is weaker compared to the Woven 8 and 9.

Woven 8: great all-around racket. Great for defense, good for power. More balanced weighted.

Woven 9: another great all-around racket. Very good offense, good defense, not quite as good as the Woven 8 on defense but close enough. Endloaded but not so much that you lose feel for netplay. The Woven 9 is my racket of choice.

mtakako

12-07-2005, 01:10 AM

Anyone know if the new batch of ti500 4U superlight no longer have the lead tape underneath the factory grip?

Pete LSD

12-07-2005, 01:19 AM

What about Woven 11?

Yes, the SOTX Woven series is excellent. Here's my synopsis:

Woven 7: super attack racket. Great for generating power and smashing, a heavier swinging racket, endloaded. Defense is weaker compared to the Woven 8 and 9.

Woven 8: great all-around racket. Great for defense, good for power. More balanced weighted.

Woven 9: another great all-around racket. Very good offense, good defense, not quite as good as the Woven 8 on defense but close enough. Endloaded but not so much that you lose feel for netplay. The Woven 9 is my racket of choice.

DinkAlot

12-07-2005, 03:30 AM

What about Woven 11?

I've hit the Woven 11, 13, and 16 briefly.

They are all strong rackets and bombers. But I cannot compare to the Woven 7,8,9 because I have not hit them enough to truly form an opinion.

If you want a preliminary comparison, I'll say the 11 is an all out offensive racket. The defense is going to be weaker than the 8 and 9.

cooler

12-07-2005, 03:33 AM

how come sotx discussion in La Fleche Ti 500 Racquet thread :confused: :D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20361&highlight=sotx

taneepak

12-10-2005, 01:04 AM

Anyone know if the new batch of ti500 4U superlight no longer have the lead tape underneath the factory grip?

A racquet's static balance point is adjusted by using lead sheet on the handle or a plastic/rubber/silicone counter-weight on the hole at the handle butt end. The use of lead sheet is better as it will be easier to re-balance the racquet.

DinkAlot

12-10-2005, 06:32 AM

how come sotx discussion in La Fleche Ti 500 Racquet thread :confused: :D

OneGoodSoul commented, I replied. :D

mtakako

12-11-2005, 01:16 AM

I totally agree. But you know if all the racket in the newer batch really do not have anymore lead tape under the grip?

A racquet's static balance point is adjusted by using lead sheet on the handle or a plastic/rubber/silicone counter-weight on the hole at the handle butt end. The use of lead sheet is better as it will be easier to re-balance the racquet.

taneepak

12-11-2005, 06:46 PM

I totally agree. But you know if all the racket in the newer batch really do not have anymore lead tape under the grip?

I am not sure. If there is no lead sheet or silicone counterweight, then most probably the racquet has not been qc balanced properly. This applies to Yonex racquets as well.

robinhood47

12-12-2005, 06:20 AM

I am not sure. If there is no lead sheet or silicone counterweight, then most probably the racquet has not been qc balanced properly. This applies to Yonex racquets as well.

I dun know about the balancing of other rackets. But you did a GREAT job in balancing mine. Thanks Ee Pak!! :D

rikardo

12-24-2005, 11:28 PM

Maybe someone can answer these questions for me. After reading through this thread a while ago, I decided to purchase a couple of La Fleche Ti500 4U racquets. My sister was visiting HK and so I asked her to purchase them from InskySports and send them to me. Well, I've received them and I noticed a couple odd things and wondering if anyone knew why.

1. I know they literally put the sticker on themselves for stating the weight and grip size, but why label some racquets 4U-G2 and some 4U-G5? I asked for the smallest grip size which I thought was G2 for La Fleche, but they claim that they label them like that but the are the same. Well, I can feel a slight difference, not much, but I do. The G5 seems to be slightly larger, but still comfortable.

2. I place the two racquets on top of each other to compare and I notice 2 differences:
a) one racquet has a longer handle than the other (the G2 has a slightly longer handle from end cap to cone apex)
b) on the shafts, the lines where it indicates with the paint that the shaft thickness increases/decreases in diameter is at different locations between the two. Why?

Can anyone provide and explanation for the inconsistent production of these racquets (maybe taneepak)?

Thanks.

outlah

12-25-2005, 09:20 AM

The G5 label along with the shorter handle sounds like a prototype, it should not have the bumpers as shown on the photos on this link.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=212578#post212578

How many did you buy? And how many were G5s?

rikardo

12-25-2005, 12:33 PM

Hi Outlah,

I bought 2. One was labelled G2 and the other G5. I can't remember if they had the bumpers (they were xmas gifts for a couple friends). The price I paid was for production.

The G5 label along with the shorter handle sounds like a prototype, it should not have the bumpers as shown on the photos on this link.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=212578#post212578

How many did you buy? And how many were G5s?

rikardo

12-25-2005, 12:54 PM

Outlah,

I'll take a couple pics of the racquets in a couple days when I see them again and post them. Maybe you or someone can tell me which one is prod and which one is prot so I can bitch at them for taking advantage of my sis. Do the stores still have this much stock of the prot after all this time?

outlah

12-25-2005, 01:16 PM

It's easy to replace the grommets on the bottom with bumper ones. But the shaft on the production is shorter than the prot, while the handle is longer. Which one is better? I personally like the prot one better, but that's just me.

rikardo

12-30-2005, 01:23 AM

Well, saw my friends again and took the racquets home today to take a couple pics and realized that my sister is still in HK WITH MY CAMERA. Looked at the racquets again and they just have regular grommets, no bumpers. I haven't seen any pics of the 4U with the bumpers, but I am guessing they are just special grommets that fit in 2 or more holes and help guide/protect the string? I've measured the shafts on the two. The one labelled G2 is 22.4cm from throat (inner head) to cone apex. The according to one of taneepak's post is ok. The one labelled G5 is 23.2 cm.

I've emailed Inskysport twice since Dec 25th, and still waiting for a reply. Will keep you posted.

Does anyone have any pics of the bumpers on the 4U? Greatly appreciate it if you could send the pic(s) to a1genius[at]rogers[dot]com.

By the way, Cheung at Inskysport is, according to my sister a nice and friendly guy. I would buy from him again. This is just a case of my sister not having all the information and picked the wrong racquet out of the ones that he showed her.

Still don't know why he would label some racquets G2 and some G5. There must be a reason.

CanuckBur

12-30-2005, 04:06 AM

The pictures are here,
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=249558&highlight=canuckBur#post249558

This is an older 4U (not a prototype).

CanuckBur

02-07-2006, 06:20 PM

It's just the paint, don't worry. Several Yonex series suffer the same problem. Over time, the paint will slowly chip off and you will see the cone isn't crack at all. But if you must know now, you can scratch the paint off.

Indeed, it was just the paint chip. I was wrong about it being damaged :o

I like the Lf-500 very much. Very quick in defence and strong in attack. I have bg68 ti strung with it. The string is a bit slippery but it doesn't affect my practice so I will continue to string it with bg68ti.