View Full Version : Just Posted!! NS-7000 in my hands!!
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 10:29 AM
I have received my NS-7000(s)!! Today!!
(Express-mailed From Japan)
(I am a little too excited now, I wil update more information later on for you guys)
Also, in case if you guys want to see more pictures, let me know where you want to see :)
I have both 2UG4 and 3UG4 options in case you want to know it.
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 10:56 AM
Balance points:
2UG4: 283mm
3UG4: 282mm
(racket only)
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 11:01 AM
The frame of the NS7000 is about 5mm longer than MP99 (the shaft is shorter than MP99 by 5mm).
Everything else are the same dimension (total length, cone, handle length)
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 11:08 AM
Both NS-7000 are as other country-coded rackets: They both have slightly imperfections at the paint (you can see paint-patches, grommet holes not straight, bubbles at the paint, and even a tiny scratch on the Yonex logo of the cone)
This is completely normal (just as we known already that JP version isn't perfect) :rolleyes:
cooler
11-29-2004, 11:10 AM
Bluejeff, at this rate, u'll never get that dig. slr of your :D
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 11:16 AM
Bluejeff, at this rate, u'll never get that dig. slr of your :D
In fact, I ordered more stuff than you guys can imagine....... :cool: :p
By the way, the frame of the NS7000 is not regular-holed (It's more like the AT800 style). For each racket, it comes with a little booklet of stringing guide.
So, stringing will be fun :)
cooler
11-29-2004, 11:22 AM
hmmm, i think the clones and fakes will be out in 'record speed' on this model. I'm such a doom and gloomer :o
Go Gade
11-29-2004, 11:35 AM
Hi bluejeff,
How do you order from Japan??? what did you else order???:rolleyes:
Kári.
Alexccs
11-29-2004, 01:56 PM
:eek: Nice pictures BJ. 2 NS-7k side by side, awesome.
Pls, more picture (detail, head to toe), more update, more ......
[QUOTE=bluejeff]I have received my NS-7000(s)!! Today!!
(Express-mailed From Japan)
........................
other
11-29-2004, 02:00 PM
hehe...nice..
BJ, you missed a trick...what you need to write on those pictures is "BlueJeff's"
:D
Yujenh
11-29-2004, 02:02 PM
is there anyway we could buy it too?? how much would it bee
i assume it will be at least more then 200us.
please post a most updated review for this racket whenever
you have time.
In fact, I ordered more stuff than you guys can imagine....... :cool: :p
By the way, the frame of the NS7000 is not regular-holed (It's more like the AT800 style). For each racket, it comes with a little booklet of stringing guide.
So, stringing will be fun :)
MarkinJapan
11-29-2004, 03:10 PM
Where did you get it? Wembly? I have a couple of friends on my team that bought them (both 2u) and they have yet to convince me to buy it over a couple more mp-90s or ti10s.
They do look really nice though. sexy! Worth the buy just to try them out.
Feng_MP-100
11-29-2004, 04:57 PM
*drooling......................................... ..............................
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 05:22 PM
Oh, no, I just locked myself out. The door lock was too sensative. :( (My computer is at living room, and all the rackets are in my room)
Now I have to find something to triger the door (there is a broken piece at the door knob) in order to see all my rackets! :o
Anyway, another thing about the NS-7000 is that. It feels very light due to the head-light balance (says on the shaft as well). I think the 2U is very nice option if you are used to the 3U or above rackets. Especially you can string to 25 pounds as the sticker says :)
Also, the swing speed is very speedy! :) It is almost comparable to my sonic Slim-10, but NS-7K is much much more stronger! The frame of the NS-7000 is very thick (at the width), and I personally would think this racket will be durable, perhaps close to a cab.
There is no mesh joints on the frame (except the bottom 5 and 7 o'clocks). With all the information above. I would say this racket should be more durable than any existing MP rackets or AT rackets. But the question is by how much? Can it be compared to the Cabs? Well....I don't know how to test that :p (cooler probably have some ideas on this)
One characteristics of the NS7000 is that, you will feel a "bounce/spring" at the swing you perform. As if there is someone gives an extra "push" at the end of a swing. I don't know if this is a good/bad thing, but it certainly feels not bad to me :cool: (Perhaps it was the nanos doing the trick ? :p )
FEND.
11-29-2004, 05:28 PM
mmm.
Bluejeff, your cab30s seem lonely, I'll gladly take them off your hands while you entertain the NS-7k :)
Yipom
11-29-2004, 05:32 PM
Also, the swing speed is very speedy! :) It is almost comparable to my sonic Slim-10, but NS-7K is much much more stronger! The frame of the NS-7000 is very thick (at the width), and I personally would think this racket will be durable, perhaps close to a cab.
Wouldn't the reason why it has a speedy swing speed because of no strings ^^"? cuz without the strings... all my racquets have very nice swing speed too
redkingjoe
11-29-2004, 06:04 PM
Dear Mr. Bluejeff,
Please give us a full testing report, NOW!
Compare it to AT700, AT800, Ti10, MP99, CAB30.
And please compare to Wison Ncode.
Thanks and best regards
Red
other
11-29-2004, 06:06 PM
Dear Mr. Bluejeff,
Please give us a full testing report, NOW!
Compare it to AT700, AT800, Ti10, MP99, CAB30.
And please compare to Wison Ncode.
Thanks and best regards
Red
lol..............
(have i got enough dots for 15 characters?)
newbi
11-29-2004, 06:13 PM
I have both 2UG4 and 3UG4 options in case you want to know it.
i dont like you.............. bluejeff..... :mad: =/ (insert jealousy look)
redkingjoe
11-29-2004, 06:18 PM
Both NS-7000 are as other country-coded rackets: They both have slightly imperfections at the paint (you can see paint-patches, grommet holes not straight, bubbles at the paint, and even a tiny scratch on the Yonex logo of the cone)
This is completely normal (just as we known already that JP version isn't perfect) :rolleyes:They just send the imperfection second overseas. If those two were sold inside Japan, the guys would simply return and get new ones, no questions asked.
These Japanese just bully you. They should be Daxxed.
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 08:28 PM
mmm.
Bluejeff, your cab30s seem lonely, I'll gladly take them off your hands while you entertain the NS-7k :)
Well, I only said I ordered 2 NS-7000, I didn't say that I didn't order more Cab30MS from Japan ;) (hint hint hint...!)
leehsim
11-29-2004, 08:28 PM
Both NS-7000 are as other country-coded rackets: They both have slightly imperfections at the paint (you can see paint-patches, grommet holes not straight, bubbles at the paint, and even a tiny scratch on the Yonex logo of the cone)
This is completely normal (just as we known already that JP version isn't perfect) :rolleyes:
Would you like to post the serial numbers and thier date codes of your two new NS-7000 for record?
Or is there a new calssification of serial number and date code?
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 08:30 PM
Wouldn't the reason why it has a speedy swing speed because of no strings ^^"? cuz without the strings... all my racquets have very nice swing speed too
That's funny :)
Too bad I am comparing the new NS-7000 with my unstrung & brand new Slim-10. Two rackets are both in 3U, and this is a fair test :)
Slim10 still rules for the speed, but NS-7000 can easily knock out the slim10 physically.
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 08:36 PM
Dear Mr. Bluejeff,
Please give us a full testing report, NOW!
Compare it to AT700, AT800, Ti10, MP99, CAB30.
And please compare to Wison Ncode.
Thanks and best regards
Red
Full testing report now? :rolleyes: I don't think I ever joined the army :p
The school gym isn't open until weekend, so i will have to wait a bit for the initial reports.
Also, I don't have Wilson Ncode here. So I can not comment on that.
AT700 and 800 comparing....although I did use some AT rackets from friends, but I didn't use them really long because I don't like AT generally. So, I will try my best on comparing to 700 and 800.
Comparing to Ti-10, MP-99, and Cab-30MS is easy, as they are all used very regularly by me :)
redkingjoe
11-29-2004, 08:44 PM
Full testing report now? :rolleyes: I don't think I ever joined the army :p
The school gym isn't open until weekend, so i will have to wait a bit for the initial reports.
Also, I don't have Wilson Ncode here. So I can not comment on that.
AT700 and 800 comparing....although I did use some AT rackets from friends, but I didn't use them really long because I don't like AT generally. So, I will try my best on comparing to 700 and 800.
Comparing to Ti-10, MP-99, and Cab-30MS is easy, as they are all used very regularly by me :)
Blue,
You are so competent. You should help Yonex to distribute their rackets here to help members to get the First Hand JP code racket here.
Thanks and longing for your report.
Red
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 08:45 PM
Would you like to post the serial numbers and thier date codes of your two new NS-7000 for record?
Or is there a new calssification of serial number and date code?
Serial codes stays the same, the 2UG4 is manufactured 2 weeks ago, and 3UG4 is manufactured 10 days ago, and they are all in the 5236xxx range.
(I am not listing the full serials out because there is a possibility that I will sell them to one of my friends and order more from Japan for my own good. It will be a little unfair for him without his permission. However, general pictures of the racket is OK because all racket looks the same on the pictures except the codes. If I am to keep those 2 rackets, then I will give the full serials out.)
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 08:50 PM
They just send the imperfection second overseas. If those two were sold inside Japan, the guys would simply return and get new ones, no questions asked.
These Japanese just bully you. They should be Daxxed.
For the records, only one of the NS-7000 is slightly imperfect, so I don't think they did it on purpose, especially I ordered othe stuff as well (and another non-NS-7000 rackets is also imperfect, but the majority of goods are OK)
Also, I ordered those rackets from a reputable store in Japan, so the chances are very slim, especially I get to talk to them on phone :rolleyes: (hint: you know this store.)
redkingjoe
11-29-2004, 09:17 PM
Dear Blue,
I warn you here: You'd better stop posting and start stringing both NS7000 and start breaking-in the racket with the string. Untill you arrive at the court, play the racket against the wall when you are awaken, sitting, standing or eating or sleeping........
You are one of the most important reference points here. The whole forum are looking to you.
Red
For the records, only one of the NS-7000 is slightly imperfect, so I don't think they did it on purpose, especially I ordered othe stuff as well (and another non-NS-7000 rackets is also imperfect, but the majority of goods are OK)
Also, I ordered those rackets from a reputable store in Japan, so the chances are very slim, especially I get to talk to them on phone :rolleyes: (hint: you know this store.)
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 09:34 PM
Dear Blue,
I warn you here: You'd better stop posting and start stringing both NS7000 and start breaking-in the racket with the string. Untill you arrive at the court, play the racket against the wall when you are awaken, sitting, standing or eating or sleeping........
You are one of the most important reference points here. The whole forum are looking to you.
Red
Now the problem is , I don't know what string to put on :p
(I have all Yonex strings here, including JP strings)
Perhaps I should just string it with BG65.....the most reliable and fundamental string :)
Where is my scissors? :confused:
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 09:37 PM
A interesting find:
Stringing NS-7000 should be easiler than others. As NS7000 has the thick-style frame, mounting the racket on the machine should be easy and the room to work on should be plenty :p
(If you ever string some thin-frame rackets, you will know what I am talking about.)
redkingjoe
11-29-2004, 09:39 PM
Now the problem is , I don't know what string to put on :p
(I have all Yonex strings here, including JP strings)
Perhaps I should just string it with BG65.....the most reliable and fundamental string :)
Where is my scissors? :confused:You are really doing the whole world a big favour here.
If you could kindly string those NS with the same tpye of string as MP99 CAB30... that you are having than you can compare an apple to an apple(same string, same tension, diff racket). Please break in the string too.
Thank you thankyou and thank you.
bluejeff
11-29-2004, 10:01 PM
Here are two more pictures that I took while cooking dinner :p
Picture#1: see how thick the frame is comparing to my MP99? :)
(MP99 is 10mm thick; NS7000 is 12mm thick, measured at 10 o'clock point)
Picture#2: Want some Nano-Grips?;) There you go, but I don't think Yonex sell replacement grips for those grips yet. So that's the down-side.... :o
Thats good to hear that you have NS7000. When are you going try it?
bluejeff
11-30-2004, 12:48 AM
Thats good to hear that you have NS7000. When are you going try it?
Probably Friday afternoon, if my gf allow me to play :p
(I am taking GRE next week)
Kai91
11-30-2004, 02:51 AM
just to know... how much did u paid?? i am drooling :crying: .... cant resist the temptation to fly to japan and send it back to singapore!!!
Its roughly around US$200 to US$215
FEND.
11-30-2004, 05:27 AM
Now the problem is , I don't know what string to put on :p
(I have all Yonex strings here, including JP strings)
Perhaps I should just string it with BG65.....the most reliable and fundamental string :)
Where is my scissors? :confused:
*cough* BG66 *cough*
Bluejeff, you sure you don't want a racquet-sitter for your cab30ms :D:D. I won't actually 'sit' on them you know ;)
BueJeff , i would suggest you to use BG65 first. If posibble try Gosen Pro66 after you have used the bg65.
Kai91
11-30-2004, 06:49 AM
Why not try cyber natural?? so far to my knowledge... cyber natural 100 is only available in JP and really good specs:cool: well... not the one i am wearing...
jamesd20
11-30-2004, 07:13 AM
Use whichever string you normally use, then you can get a good comparison with other rackets you use. Try out other strings on it later.
Why not try cyber natural?? so far to my knowledge... cyber natural 100 is only available in JP and really good specs:cool: well... not the one i am wearing...
I think Cyber Natural is overrated. The good thing about it is its durability. Thats its.. it doesnt retain tension as well , it slides alot , no resilience and no feel. I still have 5 packs of Cybernatural that i have been keeping for more than a year. Tried it twice.. not so good for me.
LazyBuddy
11-30-2004, 11:41 AM
A interesting find:
Stringing NS-7000 should be easiler than others. As NS7000 has the thick-style frame, mounting the racket on the machine should be easy and the room to work on should be plenty :p
(If you ever string some thin-frame rackets, you will know what I am talking about.)
I agree.
With M140, working with slim10, or some Winex models (i.e. T-11) could be a total nightmare, as the wooden pieces will block the gromments on the top and throat area. ;)
604badder
11-30-2004, 11:45 AM
I think Cyber Natural is overrated. The good thing about it is its durability.....
On the contrary, it's greatest weakness is its LACK of durability. It excels in all other areas from repulsion to control. But it's inability to last under high tension is why it is not used often. You'll also notice that it has a very soft outer surface, which quickly frays as the strings move under play.
cooler
11-30-2004, 11:55 AM
On the contrary, it's greatest weakness is its LACK of durability. It excels in all other areas from repulsion to control. But it's inability to last under high tension is why it is not used often. You'll also notice that it has a very soft outer surface, which quickly frays as the strings move under play.
yes, it suppose to emulate natural gut performance so it wears like it too.
nutty
11-30-2004, 04:02 PM
I agree.
With M140, working with slim10, or some Winex models (i.e. T-11) could be a total nightmare, as the wooden pieces will block the gromments on the top and throat area. ;)
I second that.
I have to insert the first few mains in order to get the Slim 10 strung, which is quite of a hassle as I actually didn't think about that until I got really frustrated :rolleyes:
Other models are no problems though, as the Slim 10 is the first one I've strung that has a thin frame on top.
yes, it suppose to emulate natural gut performance so it wears like it too.
And as we know natural gut cannot withstand tensions over 25ish without fraying like butchers string, come to think of it has anyone seen butchers string and natural gut in the same place at the same time?
Maybe we have discovered the alter ego of the butchers string :D
cooler
11-30-2004, 06:28 PM
And as we know natural gut cannot withstand tensions over 25ish without fraying like butchers string, come to think of it has anyone seen butchers string and natural gut in the same place at the same time?
Maybe we have discovered the alter ego of the butchers string :D
yes but the natural guts weren't cut up in string format yet :p
http://www.zaccardis.com/butchers-string.html
On the contrary, it's greatest weakness is its LACK of durability. It excels in all other areas from repulsion to control. But it's inability to last under high tension is why it is not used often. You'll also notice that it has a very soft outer surface, which quickly frays as the strings move under play.
Hmmm interesting.. i felt the string is durable. The rest not so good. From my experience from playing with Cyber Natural , it doesnt frays it just snapped! I do agree that the strings moves alot.
yes but the natural guts weren't cut up in string format yet :p
http://www.zaccardis.com/butchers-string.html
He he, I wonder what tension it can get up to :)
jcl49
11-30-2004, 06:46 PM
He he, I wonder what tension it can get up to :)
Its rough surface makes it a control string. Don't need to string too high then, as it will be predominantly used for singles!!
You do know we were talking about the butchers string?
jcl49
11-30-2004, 07:09 PM
You do know we were talking about the butchers string?
Yes I do. I might have just been overly "dry". ;)
Wasn't sure, just checking :D
virusvoodoo
12-01-2004, 12:06 AM
Hey bluejeff,
I noticed that you had removed the reviews of certain racquets that you have such as the Ti-10 and MP-100. Can I ask why you had done so? I found that these reviews are very helpful in comparing one racquet to another.
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 12:32 AM
Hey bluejeff,
I noticed that you had removed the reviews of certain racquets that you have such as the Ti-10 and MP-100. Can I ask why you had done so? I found that these reviews are very helpful in comparing one racquet to another.
That's because I sold some of them.
It would be a little unfair to post the picture of the racket without the permission of the new owner.
I am quite busy this month, so I don't think I will have time to update the site until Christmas. However, once if I do, I will post new reviews of the NS7000 there as well. Along with other new rackets that tooked the airplane with NS7000 ;)
Alexccs
12-01-2004, 01:14 AM
I agree.
With M140, working with slim10, or some Winex models (i.e. T-11) could be a total nightmare, as the wooden pieces will block the gromments on the top and throat area. ;)
Because your is hold-down mounting system. With Suspension mounting will be fine.:p
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 04:30 AM
Interesting find:
NS-7000 does have Muscle power frame (semi)
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 06:00 AM
String: BG66 White
Tension: 22x24
Pattern: Yonex's official pattern
I have completed the stringing....and I have few comments on this racket:
1. Stringing is easy on this thing as I mentioned before, its frame is thick, not thin.
2. Clamping is super easy on this racket as the shape of the frame is very weird, but fits in the clamps perfectly.
3. This racket should be durable because I can already tell from stringing process. It is very solid, and doesn't "move" much. So this racket is stringers' friend :) ! By the way, The 2U can take 25 pounds, and 3U can take 24 pounds (as the stickers said), but I think I can actually crank out the 28+ pounds on this thing without much of effort.
It will be compared to my trusty MP99 and Cab30MS for the testing. :)
So far, as I am fooling around with it in my apartment (again :p ), I have found the NS7000 has really great control ability. It is in the range of MP99 from my indoor tests, and I will elaborate on this in the on court tests later.
Go Gade
12-01-2004, 07:40 AM
Hello Bluejeff!
How du you order from Japan?
From Kári
virusvoodoo
12-01-2004, 04:28 PM
Oh you've sold all of the Ti-10s and MP-100s that you have? That's a drag since Ti-10s are quite rare. I would think you'd keep one of each for collecting purposes. Anyway, since you've sold them it would make sense to not have pictures of those racquets up. However, I don't think the owner would mind the review (without the pictures) itself.
Anyway, how does the Carbonex 20 Long hold up against the Ti-10 (2U if possible) and the MP-100 (2U) in terms of power and control? I am wondering if I should keep it or not. Thanks, Vu.
wood_22_chuck
12-01-2004, 04:42 PM
You should not keep the Cab20-Long. Sell it to me instead.
*The above represents the unbiased view of one wood_22_chuck, of BadmintonForum
-dave
other
12-01-2004, 05:15 PM
Oh you've sold all of the Ti-10s and MP-100s that you have? That's a drag since Ti-10s are quite rare. I would think you'd keep one of each for collecting purposes. Anyway, since you've sold them it would make sense to not have pictures of those racquets up. However, I don't think the owner would mind the review (without the pictures) itself.
yup, i agree, i like those reviews, and even though you don't have the racquets anymore, you are still entitled to your views on how they play
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 05:16 PM
Oh you've sold all of the Ti-10s and MP-100s that you have? That's a drag since Ti-10s are quite rare. I would think you'd keep one of each for collecting purposes. Anyway, since you've sold them it would make sense to not have pictures of those racquets up. However, I don't think the owner would mind the review (without the pictures) itself.
Anyway, how does the Carbonex 20 Long hold up against the Ti-10 (2U if possible) and the MP-100 (2U) in terms of power and control? I am wondering if I should keep it or not. Thanks, Vu.
No, I only sold the MP100 (since I didn't pay for it originally anyway :p )
Ti-10 are still here (and the reviews are there as well), and I will be getting another dozen it in about 3 weeks.
Cab-20L is a monster, which is not for everyone. If it is used properly, I think the power is at least par with Ti-10. However, the control is not so user-friendly. You will have to hug it, treat it nicely, and make it happy before you use it ;) In this comparison, I will prefer to use my Ti-10 just because it is a lot easier to swing. (You will understand what I am talking about once you have it in your hands.)
I have used the NS-7000 tonight for about a hour, I will make my initial reviews tonight when I get back from a meeting.
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 05:18 PM
yup, i agree, i like those reviews, and even though you don't have the racquets anymore, you are still entitled to your views on how they play
I never know there are actually people reading my reviews on my site :o
henrileconte
12-01-2004, 05:34 PM
Since I am a new follower of this discussion, could you tell me what IS your site, I don't know! And I am always curious to read other people's opinion on rackets. See if they have the same experiences as me. Thanks for all the Nanospeed info! I love it!
MusclePower100
12-01-2004, 05:42 PM
Would the NS7000 be stiffer then the AT700? How much would it be in Canada when it comes out?
other
12-01-2004, 05:44 PM
Since I am a new follower of this discussion, could you tell me what IS your site, I don't know! And I am always curious to read other people's opinion on rackets. See if they have the same experiences as me. Thanks for all the Nanospeed info! I love it!
click on the blue underlined name "bluejeff" where he has posted, and a list will come down. Choose to visit his homepage in that list :)
henrileconte
12-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Thanks!I will go and have look !
redkingjoe
12-01-2004, 06:30 PM
It will be compared to my trusty MP99 and Cab30MS for the testing. :)
So far, as I am fooling around with it in my apartment (again :p ), I have found the NS7000 has really great control ability. It is in the range of MP99 from my indoor tests, and I will elaborate on this in the on court tests later.
Breakin, breakin, breakin. Test, test, test. Report, report, report. Please.
The Whole Forum is looking to you.
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 07:26 PM
Initial Reviews
(Doesn't necessary mean it's accurate because it's just the initial feelings of the racket)
Equipments:
MP99 (3UG5)
NS7000 (3UG4)
Both with BG66, same Yonex A440T overgrips.
(By the way, after stringing and gripping, the balance point of NS7000 is now at 275mm)
Today, I sneaked into the gym (I was supposed to study....oh well :p ), and used my MP-99 and NS-7000 for a hour each. My MP99....well, it's a MP99 and I think there is nothing more to say about this racket (if you don't know what MP99 is like, please do a "search")
When I used the NS7000, it felt good on the power-generating side, although it is a head-light racket. This surprised me a bit as I was expecting it to be weak on the power side. The NS7000 is easy on the power-generation, however, I would not say it exceeds MP99. It may be close to MP99, but if you ask me which one I would pick for smashing, I would certainly take MP99 without a second doubt.
Control was OK compared to MP99. I can control my drive points as well as using the MP99, but my drop-shots and net-shots are all off. I think this is because two rackets are completely different, and I still need some more time on adjusting. At least I know the drives (the flat ones) are good and I would say the controlibility (the measure of control :p) is good, but again, at this point, I will not rate it over MP99, just because I have not yet get used to the racket.
Sound of the racket is kind of weird. (I don't think it's the strings as I have been using same strings for months) It sounds very metallic and to some people it might be a little irritating. (I am fine with it as I like louder sounds)
Durability.....not yet tested as I used the racket for a hour only in singles. :p
At this point (a little unfair to NS7000 because I have not yet get used to it, but here is what I think), if I put them into points, it would be like:
MP-99 (as a benchmark)
Power-Generation: 8
Control: 8
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
then, the NS-7000 in my mind would be (again, this is just only for today, as I will be using it more later on, points might change a little)
NS-7000
Power-Generation: 7
Control: 7
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
So far, it seems like MP-99 is still better. However, don't forget that MP-99 is the top-of-line product, and its performance is already very nice. So, I am not saying NS-7000 is bad, in fact, I think I like it so far and I think it is a good racket. It's just because MP-99 is too good.....
Above are my very "initial" thoughts. If you are not comfortable with it, or don't like my writings, hey, that's fine with me. As I am not encouraging/discouraging people on buying, all I expressed are just my thoughts:)
Good stuffs. I do agree that when i tried it initially , it does sounds weird.. maybe its the Nanosound :). MP99 does generate more power than NS7000. But i think in terms of solid hits NS7000 is better than MP99. Kudos! Keep up with your review. :)
Initial Reviews
(Doesn't necessary mean it's accurate because it's just the initial feelings of the racket)
Equipments:
MP99 (3UG5)
NS7000 (3UG4)
Both with BG66, same Yonex A440T overgrips.
(By the way, after stringing and gripping, the balance point of NS7000 is now at 275mm)
Today, I sneaked into the gym (I was supposed to study....oh well :p ), and used my MP-99 and NS-7000 for a hour each. My MP99....well, it's a MP99 and I think there is nothing more to say about this racket (if you don't know what MP99 is like, please do a "search")
When I used the NS7000, it felt good on the power-generating side, although it is a head-light racket. This surprised me a bit as I was expecting it to be weak on the power side. The NS7000 is easy on the power-generation, however, I would not say it exceeds MP99. It may be close to MP99, but if you ask me which one I would pick for smashing, I would certainly take MP99 without a second doubt.
Control was OK compared to MP99. I can control my drive points as well as using the MP99, but my drop-shots and net-shots are all off. I think this is because two rackets are completely different, and I still need some more time on adjusting. At least I know the drives (the flat ones) are good and I would say the controlibility (the measure of control :p) is good, but again, at this point, I will not rate it over MP99, just because I have not yet get used to the racket.
Sound of the racket is kind of weird. (I don't think it's the strings as I have been using same strings for months) It sounds very metallic and to some people it might be a little irritating. (I am fine with it as I like louder sounds)
Durability.....not yet tested as I used the racket for a hour only in singles. :p
At this point (a little unfair to NS7000 because I have not yet get used to it, but here is what I think), if I put them into points, it would be like:
MP-99 (as a benchmark)
Power-Generation: 8
Control: 8
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
then, the NS-7000 in my mind would be (again, this is just only for today, as I will be using it more later on, points might change a little)
NS-7000
Power-Generation: 7
Control: 7
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
So far, it seems like MP-99 is still better. However, don't forget that MP-99 is the top-of-line product, and its performance is already very nice. So, I am not saying NS-7000 is bad, in fact, I think I like it so far and I think it is a good racket. It's just because MP-99 is too good.....
Above are my very "initial" thoughts. If you are not comfortable with it, or don't like my writings, hey, that's fine with me. As I am not encouraging/discouraging people on buying, all I expressed are just my thoughts:)
bluejeff
12-01-2004, 07:34 PM
Good stuffs. I do agree that when i tried it initially , it does sounds weird.. maybe its the Nanosound :). MP99 does generate more power than NS7000. But i think in terms of solid hits NS7000 is better than MP99. Kudos! Keep up with your review. :)
About the sound, my gf said it's the nanos that are screaming "Don't hit me!!" :D:D
(Very possible :p )
More reviews & thoughts will be coming on this weekend. :)
taneepak
12-01-2004, 10:05 PM
Bluejeff, the stringing pattern on your NS-7000 is exactly the same as the one for the AT800 series. Can you confirm that it has the same grommet system as the AT800?
stantan
12-01-2004, 11:05 PM
Guys,
Am I right in assuming that this will not be coming out in 4u?
virusvoodoo
12-02-2004, 12:26 AM
I don't think 4U racquets are very good at all. They are too light which means you really really have to swing fast. However, you can only swing so fast before your arm fly off. I think 3U is a good weight for a doubles racquet. 2U racquets can be good for those who have stronger wrists that can take full advantage of the extra weight and momentum 2U racquets deliver.
New_Guy04
12-02-2004, 12:32 AM
bj, can u post the site of ur homepage? i want to read ur racket reviews also.:)
virusvoodoo
12-02-2004, 12:32 AM
Wow, you regard the MP-99 as an 8/10 racquets? I thought that is the best overall racquets that you've used.
Now I wonder what racquets you consider as a 9/10 or 10/10.
virusvoodoo
12-02-2004, 12:33 AM
bj, can u post the site of ur homepage? i want to read ur racket reviews also.:)
It is http://www.geocities.com/bluejeff/
cooler
12-02-2004, 12:47 AM
Wow, you regard the MP-99 as an 8/10 racquets? I thought that is the best overall racquets that you've used.
Now I wonder what racquets you consider as a 9/10 or 10/10.
It's not easy to be a racquet tester ;)
bluejeff
12-02-2004, 02:17 AM
Wow, you regard the MP-99 as an 8/10 racquets? I thought that is the best overall racquets that you've used.
Now I wonder what racquets you consider as a 9/10 or 10/10.
Oh, that's just a base scale. I can call MP99 to be 5/10, but then most of other rackets will be like 2/10 or 3/10. :p
So, I thought it's a good idea to make MP99 to be in "8"s. :)
Hey, not very many rackets on my list can have that many points! 8 is a high score in my reviews! :) MP99 rules!
bluejeff
12-02-2004, 02:20 AM
Bluejeff, the stringing pattern on your NS-7000 is exactly the same as the one for the AT800 series. Can you confirm that it has the same grommet system as the AT800?
Here is the string pattern that came with the NS7000. I think it's the same as AT800 :)
bluejeff
12-02-2004, 02:24 AM
Here are extra pictures :)
Notice the #1 shows you the holes of the racket. One string per hole style (as AT800)
#2 shoes you there is MP bump on each grommet that has a string around it. (See the center of the picture)
#3 and #4 shows you the shaft paint. (Those pictures are hard to take as the paint of NS7000 shines a lot.)
fishmilk
12-02-2004, 09:36 PM
bluejeff, when you get a chance, do you mind comparing them to the cab30ms and maybe the mp100 if you can... i was planning to get those 2, but i'm getting second thoughts if i should get the nanospeed or not...
Ricky
12-06-2004, 04:25 AM
Initial Reviews
(Doesn't necessary mean it's accurate because it's just the initial feelings of the racket)
Equipments:
MP99 (3UG5)
NS7000 (3UG4)
Both with BG66, same Yonex A440T overgrips.
(By the way, after stringing and gripping, the balance point of NS7000 is now at 275mm)
Today, I sneaked into the gym (I was supposed to study....oh well :p ), and used my MP-99 and NS-7000 for a hour each. My MP99....well, it's a MP99 and I think there is nothing more to say about this racket (if you don't know what MP99 is like, please do a "search")
When I used the NS7000, it felt good on the power-generating side, although it is a head-light racket. This surprised me a bit as I was expecting it to be weak on the power side. The NS7000 is easy on the power-generation, however, I would not say it exceeds MP99. It may be close to MP99, but if you ask me which one I would pick for smashing, I would certainly take MP99 without a second doubt.
Control was OK compared to MP99. I can control my drive points as well as using the MP99, but my drop-shots and net-shots are all off. I think this is because two rackets are completely different, and I still need some more time on adjusting. At least I know the drives (the flat ones) are good and I would say the controlibility (the measure of control :p) is good, but again, at this point, I will not rate it over MP99, just because I have not yet get used to the racket.
Sound of the racket is kind of weird. (I don't think it's the strings as I have been using same strings for months) It sounds very metallic and to some people it might be a little irritating. (I am fine with it as I like louder sounds)
Durability.....not yet tested as I used the racket for a hour only in singles. :p
At this point (a little unfair to NS7000 because I have not yet get used to it, but here is what I think), if I put them into points, it would be like:
MP-99 (as a benchmark)
Power-Generation: 8
Control: 8
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
then, the NS-7000 in my mind would be (again, this is just only for today, as I will be using it more later on, points might change a little)
NS-7000
Power-Generation: 7
Control: 7
Stiffness: 8
Maneuverability: 8
Easiness to use: 8
So far, it seems like MP-99 is still better. However, don't forget that MP-99 is the top-of-line product, and its performance is already very nice. So, I am not saying NS-7000 is bad, in fact, I think I like it so far and I think it is a good racket. It's just because MP-99 is too good.....
Above are my very "initial" thoughts. If you are not comfortable with it, or don't like my writings, hey, that's fine with me. As I am not encouraging/discouraging people on buying, all I expressed are just my thoughts:)
I got mine a week ago but was really busy these days so still have no chance to play with it until now. Will try tomorrow to see how it performs. I'm also a MP99 lover and your preliminary comments disappointed me somwhat (it is an expensive racket, especially yen has been up so much these days).
My source told me that NS8000/9000 will be available earlier next year (my source said the next one will be released on Jan-05).
kenshinluo
12-06-2004, 05:40 PM
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
i think many ppl asked alrdy but can u tell us where did u order those in japan?????
redkingjoe
12-06-2004, 06:37 PM
I got mine a week ago but was really busy these days so still have no chance to play with it until now. Will try tomorrow to see how it performs. I'm also a MP99 lover and your preliminary comments disappointed me somwhat (it is an expensive racket, especially yen has been up so much these days).
My source told me that NS8000/9000 will be available earlier next year (my source said the next one will be released on Jan-05).Ricky:
I really enjoy reading your reports like enjoy reading bluejeff's. Very professional. Please do it fast with as much coverage as possible. Please compare to Ti10, MP99, AT700, 800of. If possible compare to Ncode of Wilson, please.
Best regards
Redkingjoe
(ps 1 I know you are busy, but please try your best to break-in the strings before testing 2. Will you get a NS7000CP later? )
Ricky
12-09-2004, 08:19 PM
Ricky:
I really enjoy reading your reports like enjoy reading bluejeff's. Very professional. Please do it fast with as much coverage as possible. Please compare to Ti10, MP99, AT700, 800of. If possible compare to Ncode of Wilson, please.
Best regards
Redkingjoe
(ps 1 I know you are busy, but please try your best to break-in the strings before testing 2. Will you get a NS7000CP later? )
Thx redkingjoe but I'm really that professional as you thought.
I finally got a chance to try my NS7000. My initial comment is more or less the same as others. As I said before, I'm a MP90 lovers and it is my primary racket since it launched, so I can only compare it with MP90, but not other rackets as you mentioned (especially Wilson).
1st of all, NS7000 is quite different from Ti-10, AT700 and AT800DF - all these are offensive rackets which a lot of power (assume you can play really good smash). In contrast, I would say NS7000 is primarily a defensive and control racket. So, I think it is better to compare it with rackets such as MP80, AT800DF, ISO900 SR/SA, TiSP SR/SA, etc.
While NS7000 is not very powerful as Ti-10 type offensive rackets, but it is more powerful than MP80, ISO900 SA and TiSP SA imo. I think it's power is more or less the same as ISO900 SR or TiSP SR, and behind AT800DF.
In compare with those defensive rackets I just mentioned, I think NS7000 has higher manuverability, even though I found that I can't get use to the racket in 2 hours (I miss-hit a lot of times). However, I did feel I can reacted faster when playing defensive shoot due to the head light balance. My coach also said that the racket feels very smooth with almost no air resistance.
Let's try to compare it with MP90 ...
MP90 is a very well balanced racket - highly manuverable which provides great advantage on defense, but at the same time, can give very powerful smash as well. That's why I like it so much. Based on my 1st time experience with NS7000, I would say it still can't match MP90 (but not too far behind).
In terms of manuverability, I would say they are more or less the same but as I mentioned before, I found that I still can't fully get use to NS7000 after two hours, so do expect there are some differences b/w two.
For stiffness, I think MP90 is stiffer (may be this is one of the reasons why two rackets have different feel).
For powerful, MP90 definitely wins.
In summary, the biggest advantage of NS7000 imo, is its high maunverability due to head light balance, so it gives you very fast response in defense, and at the same time, can give adequate power. However, if you are offensive player which smash a lot and are looking for a powerful racket such as Ti10, NS7000 will likely disappoint you imo.
Ricky
12-09-2004, 08:23 PM
Ricky:
I really enjoy reading your reports like enjoy reading bluejeff's. Very professional. Please do it fast with as much coverage as possible. Please compare to Ti10, MP99, AT700, 800of. If possible compare to Ncode of Wilson, please.
Best regards
Redkingjoe
(ps 1 I know you are busy, but please try your best to break-in the strings before testing 2. Will you get a NS7000CP later? )
A few remarks - I've another newly string MP99 that night (same string at same tension from the same stringer), so the factor of break-in strings should be balanced off.
For CP, it will definitely be available within a few months, but honest speaking, I became less enthusiastic to CP rackets these days (fyi, I didn't but AT800CP myself even though I had been offered when they were 1st available in HK).
redkingjoe
12-09-2004, 08:32 PM
Dear Ricky,
Thank you so much for your kindness. It's really enjoyable to read each of your report. (I don't know why may be because everytime you write report, you have a very clear reference ponts to readers.)
Please update your feels on the NS7000. I remember it took 2 full months of play before my son "fell in love" with AT700. At first, he didn't like AT700.
So I think I'm waiting for your NS8000 and NS9000 reports in Jan 2005.
thank Q
red
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