MS : Peter Gade and Lin Dan
MD : Chandra/Sigit and Luluk/Alven
WS : Xie Xingfang and Mia
WD : Gao Ling/Huang Sui
XD : Widianto/Lilyana

I think for WD, it will be Zhang Jie Wen & Yang Wei. :p

I think for WD, it will be Zhang Jie Wen & Yang Wei. :p

yea, i gotta agree with you there, even though gao's my all time fav player...

lin dan will probably continue his winning streak, but i dont think xie's quite there yet, i think it'll be between zhang ning and mia audina...

as for mixed, since kim/ra are retired, i think gao/zhang will be the ones to watch out for...

imho, it will take another year for Xie to get ahead of the other 3. WS willl continue to be the year for Zhang Ning, she has so far been unstoppable. however, after Zhang Ning and GongRN retires, Xie will mature enough along with Zhou Mi. Mia has disappeared lately and we will have to wait and see how long it will take her to regain her form.

WD, i agree, Zhang Jiewen and Yang Wei have finally found their form and live up to their potential. let's hope they can continue to maintain it.

MD will be the year of Luluk and Alven, but don't ignore Jonas/Lars, they will be practicing hard to prepare for the WC.

MS - i don't think there will be much domination, a mix of Taufik, Lin Dan, Gade, LeeCW.

MX - the playing field is quite level on this one, there are a few promising pairs who are rising above the horizon and hungry, we will see how they fare as the new year rolls by.

Yang Wei & Zhang Jiewen dominate WD???? Thats not true at all....they won the olympic by luck...i still remember it was a rubber game and gao ling n huang sui were quite strong in the 1st game...eventually gao/huang lost the match because gao ling was really fatigue because her XD matches had taken its toll...and huang sui was like throwing in the towel because she could do nothing to save the situation.....

So...definitely...in the coming tournament...i believe gao ling and huang sui will prove that they are the real champion....:D :D :D

Yang Wei & Zhang Jiewen dominate WD???? Thats not true at all....they won the olympic by luck...i still remember it was a rubber game and gao ling n huang sui were quite strong in the 1st game...eventually gao/huang lost the match because gao ling was really fatigue because her XD matches had taken its toll...and huang sui was like throwing in the towel because she could do nothing to save the situation.....

So...definitely...in the coming tournament...i believe gao ling and huang sui will prove that they are the real champion....:D :D :D
well, results speaks more than anything else.

Zhang/Yang has won 5 consecutive tournaments since June (Malaysia, Olympics, China, Singapore, Indonesia) while Gao/Huang hasn't won a single tournament since the All England in March.

ms: lin dan will once again rule the world of badminton!:D but maybe there will be some fights from bao chunlai and taufik hidayat, the latter said that he is aiming high to win all england and wc, lets see wat will win, his inconsistency or his great will and talent;)
md: luluk/alven all the way:D
ws: xie xingfang, i think its her era right now, lately she has won so many big tourneys
wd : none other than yang wei and zhang jiewen
xd : nova/lilyana and zhang/gao

Well...i think the tournament in 2005 is going to be very interesting especially in the MD event with a few formidable pairs from indonesia, malaysia, denmark, china...

Indonesia....they have 1.chandra/sigit(chandra is so fast in front of net and sigit has a very powerful jumping smash and some magic shots )2.Alven/Luluk(they do not allow their opponent to do the attacking)3.Flandy/enghian(very good understanding and had very fast killer insticnt)

Malaysia...1.Chong ming/KKK(both players like to play the game at a very fast rhythm and opt for some tricky shot sometimes)2.Choong/Chew(they are actually a scratch pair but they can play very fast drive and good defense)

Denmark....1.Jonas/las(They play a very "intelligent" game, they always look for the empty space in their opponent's court)2.Jens/martin lungard(definitely with their intimidating height, their smashes are lethal weapon)

China...1.Cai yun/FuHaifeng(Fast and furious)2.Sang yang/Zheng Bo(Their smashes are very stingy, strong defence)

Korea...Kim/Ha(olympic champion,i tink they have to play for 1 or 2 years more until korea can come up with a new strong pair, age is still not a limitation for them because jens/martin are both much older)

MS: Lin Dan, Gade, Bao, KJ, Taufik and LCW...

MD: Hadyanto/Alven, Flandy/Hian, Kim/Ha, Eriksen/Lundgaard and Paaske/Rasmussen...

MXD: Kim/Ra...

Korea...Kim/Ha(olympic champion,i tink they have to play for 1 or 2 years more until korea can come up with a new strong pair, age is still not a limitation for them because jens/martin are both much older)
They are supposed to have retired as far as I know... :rolleyes:

did they? i haven't got much news from them lately. i'll have to do some research..

For ms, i think its definitely lee chong wei, bao chunlai and lin dan. Maybe Hafiz too. though for taufik, i'm not really sure.

For mx, its going to be nova/lilyana (ina) and koo/wong (mas).

for wd, its going to be sathinee/saralee (tha). Yang/zhang (chn) too perhaps.

MS: Lin Dan, Gade, Bao, KJ, Taufik and LCW...

MD: Hadyanto/Alven, Flandy/Hian, Kim/Ha, Eriksen/Lundgaard and Paaske/Rasmussen...

MXD: Kim/Ra...

Aren't Kim, Ha and Ra retired already?

MS :
Indonesia : Taufik and Sony. Simon will improve.
Denmark : Gade and KJ. Kaldau will improve.
China : Lin Dan and Chun Lai. Chen Yu anf Chen Jin will improve.
Malaysia : Lee Chong Wei.
Korea : Lee Hyun Il and Shon Seung Mo.
Others : Boonsak, Susilo, Xuan Ze, etc.....

WS :
It will be dominated by Chineses girls : Zhang Ning, Gong Rui Na, Xie Xing Fang and Zhou Mi.
Mia Audina, Pi Hong Yan, Yao Jie and Wong Chen maybe can get some chance.

MD :
Indonesia : I think 2005 is for Alven/Luluk, but Candra/Sigit and Limpele/Hian can make some things more....
Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan will improve.
Denmark : Rasmussen/Paaske and Eriksen/Lundgaard. A couple young pairs will improve.
China : Cai/Fu and Sang/Zheng.
Malaysia : Chan/Koo and Choong/Chew. Tan/Ong will improve.
Korea : After Kim/Ha and Yoo/Lee retired. Kim/Yim will take their place.
Thailand : Prapakamol/Ngernsrisuk and Teerawiwanata/Panvisvas.

WS :
Like in WS, WD will be dominated by Chinese girls.

XD :
There are several pair will dominate in 2005 :
Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms (England)
Zhang Jun/Gao Ling (China)
Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (Indonesia)
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager (Denmark)
Kim Yong Hyun/Lee Hyo Jung (Korea)
Chen Qi Qiu/Zhao Ting Ting (China)
Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thungthongkam (Thailand)

well, results speaks more than anything else.

Zhang/Yang has won 5 consecutive tournaments since June (Malaysia, Olympics, China, Singapore, Indonesia) while Gao/Huang hasn't won a single tournament since the All England in March.
i think Gao Ling was more focusing in XD than in WD.

for singles i think lcw will make it to the top 5 if he really trys his best.
md will be a close fight between denmark and indonesia.china still have not build up their doubles although it has improved alot.denmark and indonesia have 3 very good doubles pair which should make them the top contenders for doubles crown.

mixed double is a very interesting event to watch in 2005...it involves the battle from many countries...China, indonesia, denmark,korea,england,thailand and even malaysia...but i think zhang jun and gao ling still have slight advantage compare to the other pairs...however, upset is very easy to take place in this event:D :D :D

MS - I'm looking at how Ronald Susilo do this year. He is still young and has lots of potential, and if he takes this year "seriously", I'm looking for a strong performance. I believe he and Taufik are the two players who can "beat" Lin Dan and any Chinese players in a "neutral" arena. Speaking of Taufik, he said he's targeting on getting the All-England(March) and World Championships(August) titles, but he has to figure out a way to squeeze in between AE, Japan Open(April), Sudirman Cup(May), Indonesian Open(June) and WC. Remember, most likely he would like to defend the Indonesian Open title again which is coming in June as well as the Sudirman Cup(May). Boy, he will have a very busy schedule starting this March, basically 1 major tournament each month, with only July as his resting time before the World Championships.
Good Luck Taufik, just don't miss the World Championships in L.A., the fans here will be very disappointed if you don't come(hehehe).. :)

WS - Mia has a chance, after coming oh so close many times. Only question is, how much is she willing to sacrifice and (sorry if this sounds inappropriate)will she lose the weight and work on her conditioning?? If she does fix her "weakness" then she has a chance to have a good year.

MD - If Halim Haryanto do indeed join with Tony Gunawan and play for the U.S. in MD, I have a feeling there will be some upsets in the upcoming World Championships. Just hope they don't meet any top Indonesian MD pairs in the early round(hehe). Flandy/Eng Hian is almost done, they could still compete and win but most likely against younger inexperienced player or with luck.

WD - not much competition i guess.

XD - hmm, open field. Many pairs on the same level. Nova/Natsir pair is just starting, hope they can last another year(too bad for Nova's former partner).

MS : Peter Gade and Lin Dan
MD : Chandra/Sigit and Luluk/Alven
WS : Xie Xingfang and Mia
WD : Gao Ling/Huang Sui
XD : Widianto/Lilyana

MS : Taufik Hidayat and Lin Dan ( Taufik should grab the All-england title this
year..)
MD : Luluk/Alven and Chandra/Sigit
WS : Xie Xingfang & Mia
WD : Chinese Pairs
XD : Zhang/Gao and Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir

seriously i think

MS: Taufik (Lin Dan isnt performing well)
XD: Eriksen Jens and Schjodager (sorry just cant spell her name)
MD: Sigit and Candra?

seriously i think

MS: Taufik (Lin Dan isnt performing well)
XD: Eriksen Jens and Schjodager (sorry just cant spell her name)
MD: Sigit and Candra?why do u think so? i mean, hes like the best in 04, why dont u think that he'll dominate the baddy world?:(

2005 will be the year when Lee Choong Wie finally parks in the top 5.

It will also be the year when Gade again wins some big titles.

Carsten Mogensen will get his big break in MX and MD.

Taufik will win one or two titles, depending on motivation.

Lin Dan will continue to be the guy to beat for the others.

2005 will be the year when Lee Choong Wie finally parks in the top 5.

It will also be the year when Gade again wins some big titles.

Carsten Mogensen will get his big break in MX and MD.

Taufik will win one or two titles, depending on motivation.

Lin Dan will continue to be the guy to beat for the others.


i agree about Mogensan! :)

im predicting a rivalry to ignite between Mogensan and malaysia's own KKK in both the MD and XD categories! :D

let us see who the next generation of top doubles speacialist really is :eek:


jug

MD - If Halim Haryanto do indeed join with Tony Gunawan and play for the U.S. in MD, I have a feeling there will be some upsets in the upcoming World Championships.
Halim Haryanto won't be elligible to represent USA in next year's world championships.
Tony Gunawan will probably be pairing Howard Bach...

why do u think so? i mean, hes like the best in 04, why dont u think that he'll dominate the baddy world?:(
He lost in the olympics in qualifiers to susilo who ultimately didnt win anything
he lost to taufik in the indonesia open.... being world no.1 his just not performing well....even by chance he dun get a gold he shuld at least get a silver!

He lost in the olympics in qualifiers to susilo who ultimately didnt win anything
he lost to taufik in the indonesia open.... being world no.1 his just not performing well....even by chance he dun get a gold he shuld at least get a silver!I don't quite agree here... If u consider Lin Dan not performing well just because he lost to Susilo whom in the end, also didn't win the gold medal, then I must say Taufik also didn't perform well in the China Open too.

Taufik lost to Bao CL, and eventually Bao lost to Lin Dan who won the China Open! We shouldn't judge the players just on 1 or 2 matches whereby they lost, it's not at all surprising for the top seed to lose a tourney or two.

But considering Lin Dan's performance for the whole year, other than the flop in Olympics, I think he did reasonably well. He is the MS player who won the most IBF events in 2004. :p

I don't quite agree here... If u consider Lin Dan not performing well just because he lost to Susilo whom in the end, also didn't win the gold medal, then I must say Taufik also didn't perform well in the China Open too.

Taufik lost to Bao CL, and eventually Bao lost to Lin Dan who won the China Open! We shouldn't judge the players just on 1 or 2 matches whereby they lost, it's not at all surprising for the top seed to lose a tourney or two.

But considering Lin Dan's performance for the whole year, other than the flop in Olympics, I think he did reasonably well. He is the MS player who won the most IBF events in 2004. :pi kinda agree with u, i mean even tho im an indonesian, but still , even if he flopped at athens, he won almost all of the tourneys he entered , and bout he lost to th in io was just one tournament, and for his sake, its in semifinal! its hard enough for some players to get to that stage! but, yeah, the olympic thing is kinda questionable, but its people's opininon, so its all different right?:D , but anything can happen, maybe he ruled last year, but who knows wat will happen this year,(maybe i will be the world champ:D ? maybe no, but really, anything can happen:D )

He lost in the olympics in qualifiers to susilo who ultimately didnt win anything
he lost to taufik in the indonesia open.... being world no.1 his just not performing well....even by chance he dun get a gold he shuld at least get a silver!

do i must remember you how many titles he wins in 2003 and 2004 ??
_denmark open 2003
_all england 2004
_swiss open 2004
_china open 2003
_denmark open 2004
_german open 2004
_china open 2004
etc etc ....

if you judge lin dan just in 2 defeat sorry to say that but that's quite ... stupid, he's dominating badminton world since about 1 years !! even some top players was afraid to be in the same quarter of lin dan ... if this not convince you ... what should i do? :rolleyes:

On this issue, IMO, I think in badminton, there's some luck factor which takes place also-ie. injuries, who did the players play against and some unknown factor. I thought Taufik was a bit "fortunate" during the Olympics where he didn't have to play 1 single chinese players-this was also acknowledge by some of the PB PBSI (Indonesian badminton federation) officials. The fact that all the chinese top MS players were eliminated before the SF, made his road easier. His toughest opponent was PGade which he beat in straight set, but his toughest match was against WCHann which he beat in 3 sets. I think "luck" has something to do also, which LinDan met differently against Ronald Susilo(who knows what really happened to LinDan). Another example is PiHongYan who lost to some unknown Indonesian in the 2nd round of the recent Indonesian Open, who would've thought??...Bottom line is, no player can win all tournaments/matches no matter how good he/she is, if it's your day or just your tourney to win or lose, there's nothing to stop it.

I don't quite agree here... If u consider Lin Dan not performing well just because he lost to Susilo whom in the end, also didn't win the gold medal, then I must say Taufik also didn't perform well in the China Open too.

Taufik lost to Bao CL, and eventually Bao lost to Lin Dan who won the China Open! We shouldn't judge the players just on 1 or 2 matches whereby they lost, it's not at all surprising for the top seed to lose a tourney or two.

But considering Lin Dan's performance for the whole year, other than the flop in Olympics, I think he did reasonably well. He is the MS player who won the most IBF events in 2004. :p

this is proof that all players no matter how good he/she is, they can't win all the tournaments/matches...If indeed these are all his wins the last year or so, then IMO only the All-England would be his best accomplishment followed by the China Open and Denmark Open. How about the Sudirman Cup/Thomas Cup??And was he invited to/played in the Copenhagen Masters 2 yrs ago(2003)??..He did win the JVC Asian Championship a while back i believe, but i wonder why not anymore??..We'll shall see this year if he can defend his All-England title and then pursuit the World Championship title..

do i must remember you how many titles he wins in 2003 and 2004 ??
_denmark open 2003
_all england 2004
_swiss open 2004
_china open 2003
_denmark open 2004
_german open 2004
_china open 2004
etc etc ....

if you judge lin dan just in 2 defeat sorry to say that but that's quite ... stupid, he's dominating badminton world since about 1 years !! even some top players was afraid to be in the same quarter of lin dan ... if this not convince you ... what should i do? :rolleyes:

Hmm, it's not a big issue, but does anyone know why the 2005 Japan http://www.yonexopenjp.com/ and All-England Open http://www.baofe.co.uk/?session=879319282&newcat=259 has Taufik Hidayat's as their main poster guy??...Hope this is not a jinx for him.. ;)

this is proof that all players no matter how good he/she is, they can't win all the tournaments/matches...If indeed these are all his wins the last year or so, then IMO only the All-England would be his best accomplishment followed by the China Open and Denmark Open. How about the Sudirman Cup/Thomas Cup??And was he invited to/played in the Copenhagen Masters 2 yrs ago(2003)??..He did win the JVC Asian Championship a while back i believe, but i wonder why not anymore??..We'll shall see this year if he can defend his All-England title and then pursuit the World Championship title..

yes. he did play in the Thomas Cup in the 1st single position, he won all his matches there and played a pivotal role in helping China regain the Thomas Cup. he didn't play the Sudirman Cup 2003 as he was still a new player then.

i very much agree with your first sentence though, it is almost impossible for a player to win all his tournaments, as we can see from Lin Dan.

however, winning 7 grand prix tournaments + Thomas Cup, there shouldn't be much doubt that Lin Dan has gone into 2005 as the most feared player in the circuit. it will be hard to convince anybody that he isn't the most probable player to "dominate" 2005.

Gade: has got trouble beating : Lin Dan, Wong Choong Hann and Lee Choong Wei. Gade plays well against Taufik, Chen Hong and Xia Xuanze.

Taufik: Trouble beating Gade
Plays well against everybody, but has some trouble with Gade.

Wong Choog Hann: trouble beating Lin Dan.
Wong is not at his best at the moment, so he is having trouble with all the high ranked players at the moment.

Lin Dan: No one he has any trouble against.

After my analysis Lin Dan is my favourite on 2005. The only player I believe that has the abilities to beat Lin at the moment is Taufik.

Iam hoping to see a good year from Gade. His game impressed me a lot in the copenhagen masters, but really none of the guys in the MS besides Gade and Jonassen was in a very good shape in that tournament.

2005: Lin Dan will top the rankings follwed by Gade. And then the dangerous guys like Taufik, WCH and sos on...........

IMO, the reason why most people view LinDan as the "favorite" again to *dominate* in 2005 is because he was the most "consistent player" at least in terms of results, in the last year or so..On the other hand Taufik, Gade, LCW, BCL, WCH, ChenHong, Sony Kuncoro, RonaldSusilo all have capabilities, it's just that for reason or another or some unknown reason they're "not as consistent" as LinDan or their result(s) is not on the same par as LinDan..However, IMO, when it comes down to "very serious" tournaments(ie. 5* or above), only a few select players(namely Taufik) can rise up to the occasion, while others just can't cope with it...That's why this year also, i esp. want to see more Taufik vs. LinDan matches to see or gauge where the 2 players stand(perhaps in the next few tourneys both of them can face each other in the SF or Finals, that would be fun and wonderful)..

Same also as in WS, we all know what the three Chinese girls can do(ZhangNing, GRN, ZhouMi), but players like Mia Audina, XXFang, PiHongYang, YaoJie(and the rest of ex-Chinese players), WangChen has the capabilities as well..Personally, even though i'm not a fan of Mia Audina, i want to see her do well this year and i think if she resolves her weakness, i think she can surprise some people this year(heck, she is currently ranked #1 WS player)..XXFang is also another player to watch..

Gade: has got trouble beating : Lin Dan, Wong Choong Hann and Lee Choong Wei. Gade plays well against Taufik, Chen Hong and Xia Xuanze.

Taufik: Trouble beating Gade
Plays well against everybody, but has some trouble with Gade.

Wong Choog Hann: trouble beating Lin Dan.
Wong is not at his best at the moment, so he is having trouble with all the high ranked players at the moment.

Lin Dan: No one he has any trouble against.

After my analysis Lin Dan is my favourite on 2005. The only player I believe that has the abilities to beat Lin at the moment is Taufik.

Iam hoping to see a good year from Gade. His game impressed me a lot in the copenhagen masters, but really none of the guys in the MS besides Gade and Jonassen was in a very good shape in that tournament.

2005: Lin Dan will top the rankings follwed by Gade. And then the dangerous guys like Taufik, WCH and sos on...........

wow, taufik in ae and jo posters? good for him then, i dont think they even put his face in io poster:rolleyes: maybe he is quite popular , well, my thought is lin dan will still be the player to beat, but doesnt mean that he is invicible, i consider that lin dan and taufik has even chances to win wc, since both are madly talented, popular, and all, and even though taufik is VERY inconsistent, but he said in a press conference after his gold medal, that he was aiming high for wc and ae, and wc is a big tournament, and we all know how taufik's motivation is very high when it comes to a tourney like dis, and there is lin dan, who all players fear of, and he will once again prove that he is a worthy #1 ranked player in the world, not to mention to add his trophy collections:D i hope we can see some good matches between the two, since that match in io was so interesting:D

It's always hard to tell with MS. Different players could take different honours. It will be hard for one player to dominate all. The usual suspects will be watched closely, but 2005 could see the emergence of young(er) players from Indonesia and especially China. Also Korea has been quiet for some time in this department, but watch for the storm after the calm.

Xie Xingfang has only been winning in the absence of the Four Heavenly Queens (Zhang, Gong, Zhou, Mia). If one of them were to dominate, I will place all bets on Zhang. Also, the younger players from China were given exposure in 2004. 2005 may see one or two coming to the fore. I'm afraid there may never be a Xie era.

In the MD, the usual suspects again. Korea may spring some new pairs. Denmark has a number of good new pairings. Malaysia as well.

The WD has for a long time been China, China, China, and I don't see that changed in 2005, but they have to fight hard to maintain their dominance. Yang/Zhang will continue their run of good form in 2005.

Once dominated by the Europeans, the XD event is offering a rather good mix for 2005. Big guns Zhang/Gao and Robertson/Emms, will find very difficult to hang on to their status. Zhang/Gao is already satisfied with 2 Olympic wins and Robertson/Emms also satisfied with their silver. There is half a chance that someone else end up as world #1 at year-end.

Kim DM and Ha TK will continue to play for the Korean National Squad, although Kim DM will not definitely play MX with whomever because he wants to focus on his graduate study. But Ha also wants play MX porbably with the tall Lee Hyojung (1.78 m).

In the last months there were several national tournaments and league games which were postponed due to the Olympic Games.

And the biggest surprise was surely the newest result in MD of the Korean Best Championships in the last days of 2004.

Lee Jaejin and Jung Jaesung beat the silver medalists of Athens Lee Dongsoo and Yoo Yongsung at the semifinals (15:8, 15:8) and finally won the finals against the unbeatable Kim DM/Ha TK with their own weapons, namely with wit and powerful smashes in three really thrilling sets 14:17, 17:15, 15:11.

They also beat Fu/Cai at their homeground in three sets 8:15, 15:8, 15:13 during the China Open 2004.
They are respectively 21 and 22 years old and were elected to the new hopes for the Korean sports in 2005 by Korean sports journalist.


MS

While Lee Hyunil, Sohn Seungmo (the silver medalist in Athens 2004) and park Taesang must rehabilitate after operations, the youngster Park Sunghwan took over the crown of Korean MS who beat Lin Dan in quarter finals and Xia Xuanze in semi finals at Malaysian Open 2004.

WS

Jun Jaeyoun

WD

Ra's surgery was not successful, ao she won't be able to compete several months. But the more important thing is her mental state. It almost took two years for her to recover from the defeat at Sydney. And this time nobody knows how long it will take.

So Lee Kyungwon, Lee Hyojung and some younger playershaver to form a completely new team.


MX

Kim Yonghyun will have the assignment to maintain the level of Korean MX, but there is a rumour that his partner Lee Hyojung should form a team.

Lee Hyojung should form a team with Ha TK.

WD

Ra's surgery was not successful, ao she won't be able to compete several months. But the more important thing is her mental state. It almost took two years for her to recover from the defeat at Sydney. And this time nobody knows how long it will take.


do you know what ra's operation was, knee or something else? :confused:

Thanks for the interesting information about korean players economet! :)
We were all wondering what was happening in Korea... ;)

do you know what ra's operation was, knee or something else? :confused:
Sure, there were several injuries. But the injury which caused the current problem was "hernia" (a ruptured gut) why she was operated on twice (herniotomy).
Recently she felt badly and had a check-up. In the check-up a contrast medium was used which troubled her so much that she nearly collapsed.

Sure, there were several injuries. But the injury which caused the current problem was "hernia" (a ruptured gut) why she was operated on twice (herniotomy).
Recently she felt badly and had a check-up. In the check-up a contrast medium was used which troubled her so much that she nearly collapsed.
wow, you're really current with badminton news! :) i guess we won't be seeing her for a while if at all :(

Hi Guys.. year 2005 have began!!! lets just predict who is gonna win for the worldchampionship 2005!

my prediction is:
MS: Lin Dan
MD: Alven/Luluk
WS:Zhang Ning
WD:ZhangJieWen/Yang Wei
XD:Not very sure

and guys...after you tell your prediction, tell your reason also why do you think that player will win.

and guys...after you tell your prediction, tell your reason also why do you think that player will win.

ok. you start first.

oookayy, but i guess its still too early to predict the winner, but ok,at least so far :
ms : lin dan, maybe taufik hidayat if he's fully inspired--- easy. lin dan is the most consistent, most confident, most possible and all, i guess he already won many tourneys and he wants to make it complete by winning this wc, or taufik becos he said he was aiming this and he always back to his best when it comes to biggy like this, and maybe he wants to win 7* tournaments two years in a row
md : candra/sigit, luluk/alvent, cai/fu, chew/choong --- maybe c/s want to pay their revenge of last wc, and luluk/alven seem in a very good form, and so do cai/fu and chew/choong
ws : zhang ning, xie xingfang --- zhang ning seems to be the best today, while xie seems to improve a lot in 2004
wd : yang/zhang, gao/huang -- both pairs are great and they are the pairs who rule the wd world right now, and not many pairs can beat them
xd : gao/zhang, nova/lilyana --- well, i guess z/g seems to be the pair every pairs fear of, and they certainly prove it, and n/l seems strong too

WS: MIA probably will reach the finals against Zhang Ning or Xie.(Though I am not quite sure about Mia coz we'll see if she is able retain that form of hers...)

MS: Taufiq & Lin Dan in the finals.

Mxd: Nathan & Gail vs Gao ling and chen

Ms : Lin Dan , he's really strong, when he is at his best he's unbeatable and i think he won't let this chance of winning this WC and put his name in gold letters in badminton history =p
Ws : Xie Xingfang, Zhou Mi or Mia Audina , xingfang has improved a lot, she seems really strong, but the form that mia showed us a the OG is i think at a better level ... and about zhou mi she never won a big tournamen like her compatriots, zhang ning, gong ruina, gong zichao an ye zhaoying and i'm sure she will want to repare that.
Md : i saw in the forum that kim dong moon and ha tae kwon will continue to play , for me they are favourite if they play if not, i think candra and sigit will have a good chance.
Wd : Yang/zhang they are my favourite pair since a long time and after what happened in birmingham in 2003, they'll go in L.A very confident.
Mxd : Even if sometimes they are not at the top, i think without kim and ra, they are the better mxd pair in the world now i'm talking of course about zhang and gao.

A little early to predict now. Perhaps after Japan Open.
There may be some changes here and there over the next 3 or 4 months.

China may end up having 5 players in top 8 and Lin Dan may miss the WC ticket if he ended up being ranked behind Chen Hong, Bao CL, Xia Xuanze and Chen Jin/Gong Weijie. :p

Malaysia will have Li Mao to coach the MS players. Other than Lee CW, we are not sure who else will qualify along. Wong CH, Hafiz, Kuan BH, Roslin or even Lee TS, we never know?

For Indonesia, who knows... Taufik may restrained his past sour relationship with PBSI? Simon Santoso may just rise to the occasion in AE 2005?

It's just my opinion that we may get far clearer picture 3 months later.
And Kwun may decide to throw another "Guess the 2005 world champions" contest for us by then. :D

Hi Guys.. year 2005 have began!!! lets just predict who is gonna win for the worldchampionship 2005!

my prediction is:
MS: Lin Dan
MD: Alven/Luluk
WS:Zhang Ning
WD:ZhangJieWen/Yang Wei
XD:Not very sure

and guys...after you tell your prediction, tell your reason also why do you think that player will win.

That's cheating ... you're just picking all the World No. 1's. It's too early to tell yet. Let's wait till we see a few tournaments first.

That's cheating ... you're just picking all the World No. 1's. It's too early to tell yet. Let's wait till we see a few tournaments first.

why would you consider that cheating? :confused:

anyway here's mine (wild guesses)

MS: Kenneth Johansen
MD: Eriksen / Lundgard
WS: Zhou Mi
WD: errrrrrrrrrrr?
XD: Koo Kien Kiat / Wong Pei Ty???????????

jug

Hi Guys.. year 2005 have began!!! lets just predict who is gonna win for the worldchampionship 2005!

i failed to see how the answer of this question would be different than the answer to an existing thread: who will dominate in 2005. so i have merged the two threads.

Agree. Lets start the world champion prediction after Japan Open :)

I'm just goign to predict for MS because I only watch MS.

I think Lin Dan is still goign to dominate the circuit and win the majority of tournament. He is the most consistent player around. Gade seems to be impressive from copenhagen master and he will probably be a tough contender for Lin Dan. On the other hand there is Taufik who just stole Olympic and Indo open from Lin Dan.

The only things I'm scared for Taufik is his lack of consistency and Bao CL. I was hoping Taufik to win VS Bao in China open but he lost it in tight rubber set. I heard he had an injury during the game but he still lost.

If I only had a choice to make I would choose the safest choice on paper and choose Lin Dan. But like other said there are players rising and others slowing down. LCW is sure a top class player and he will sure make a big impact in 2005. If taufik plays like he played in Indo open he will win 2005 WC.

If we focus to WC2005, then these are my opinions :

MS: The possible winner are Lin Dan and Peter.
Why ?
Lin Dan is a super talent player and can play the best badminton. He plays -most- very good high level badminton when he plays against top players, but sometimes he can play nonchalance and lost easily to sub-top player.
Peter Gade is now 28, maybe this year is his last chance to be a world champion. So in my opinion, he will be a super-motived player and figth for the title. Just a few players can beat him : Lin Dan (1-5), Bao (1-2) and Wong CH (1-4, the last five matches).

WS: The possible winner are Zhang Ning and Xie Xing Feng.
Dark horses : Mia Audina and Zhou Mi
Why ?
Zhang Ning is this year 30, she stands at the end of her career. She has all the titles which every player dreams on: OG, WC, KO, SO, HO, Sudirman and Uber. For the last time -I think- she will do her best to get her second world title and to join Han Ai Ping in 85-87 and Li Ling Wei in 83-89.
She will try hard to defence her title.
Xie Xing Feng, she is already mature and ready to take over the duty from Zhang Ning and Gong Rui Na. Four titles in 2004: DO, GO, CO and IO, plus Uber. Still young and has a better achievement than Zhou Mi.

I place Mia and Zhou as dark horses, because of their performances lately.
Zhou got nothing in 2004. And always be in the shadow of Zhang and Gong. Mia in the other hand performs better than Zhou. Finalist in OG champion in JO and European title. If Mia can play her best and always consistance, she will be a big challenger for Zhang and Xie.

MD: The possible winner are : 'Hard to say'
Actually I have 4 favourite pairs: Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto, Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto, Jonas Rasmussen/Lars Paaske and Cai Yun/Fu Hai Feng.
Why ?
Luluk/Alven, they are mature already and I can say that they are already take the duty over from Candra/Sigit and Eng/Flendi. They performance climb and still climbing. 4 titles and 2 finals in 2004 are not nothing. Somebody -in this forum- said that they are the best attach pair.
Candra/Sigit, they have already had a very good career, especially Candra. He has OG and WC two of the prestigious. Both of them are 30. Same as Zhang Ning, this year is -maybe- their last year of their career. So, I think they will be a super-motived pair and figth for their 'last title', and show the world that they are the best.
Jonas/Lars, the defender champion. It may be hard for them to defence their throne. But according to me, they are the best Dennis double ever. They play a very good attach pair with Asia style. They will try 'what does it costs' to defence their title.
Cai/Fu, 2004 is not a good year for them. In the beginning, they are considered as a new Li/Tian. They play a fast rhythm. Good attach and good defend. But they still one of the best pairs. In their peak, one other pair can stop them.

WD: I have no better favourite than Yang Wei/Zhang Jie Wen.
Why ?
If there is a pair who can stop them, it should be Wei Yi Li/Zhao Ting Ting or Gao Ling/Huang Sui.
With their sublime performence in 2004, I don't see other pairs can challenge them.

XD: In my eyes, I see 3 pairs. They are: Zhang Jun/Gao Ling, Nova Widianto/Lelyana Natsir -if they still play together- and Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager.
Dark horses : Kim Yong Hyun/Lee Hyo Jung, Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms, Chen Qi Qiu/Zhao Ting Ting and Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thungthongkam.
Why ?
Zhang/Gao, they are my top favourite. I like to see the macho's style from Zhang (he punch the air when get point, and his face .....) and tha smiling face from Gao when she make a mistake. I am not necessary to name their performance. You know already.
Widianto/Natsir, this new Indonesian pair has done very good. First tournament since they are partnered, they went to semi final in CO -they beat Zhang/Goa in QF- then got they first title in SO, lost to Zhang/Goa in QF in IO. A very good performence for the young pair. Their future seems wide open. My concern is : Shall PBSI still stick them together when Vita Marissa recover ?
Eriksen/Schjoldager, The second seeds in the IBF's list. Copenhagen Master is their last title in 2004. They win CO after beating Widianto/Natsir in semi and Chen/Zhao in final. It seems that they have improved their skill and tactics.

Kim/Lee. From the three dark horses, they have a best performance: three times finalist in 2004. Since Kim/Ra retired, they are now number one XD in Korea. They still have to learn more experience to replace Kim/Ra. But they are climbing to the top. Maybe 2005 is the year for them to break-throught and get their peak in WC-2005.
Robertson/Emms, they played a very good match in OG final, but the rest......??? Even they are the first seeds in the IBF's list, I doubt over their performance.
Chen/Zhao, up and down is the right words for them. Last good performance was in CO, lost to Eriksen/Schjoldager in final.
Prapakamol/Thungthongkam, the best XD ever from Thailand. They are the SEA Games champion in 2003 and have to defence it this year.


These are all my opinion, ofcouse I can also be wrong.

I saw Peter Gade played in Copenhagen in December and I think he played some real good badminton. He will win a couple of big titles this year. I think he will take the WC.

In mixed Jens/Mette will dominate, they showed their qaulity at both China Open and Master.

In mensdouble, you can't underrest the danish pairs Lars/Jonas and Jens/Martin both pairs are very good. Good to hear that Jens will continue to play after World Championship
It will be a good year for danish badminton :)

I saw Peter Gade played in Copenhagen in December and I think he played some real good badminton. He will win a couple of big titles this year. I think he will take the WC.

In mixed Jens/Mette will dominate, they showed their qaulity at both China Open and Master.

In mensdouble, you can't underrest the danish pairs Lars/Jonas and Jens/Martin both pairs are very good. Good to hear that Jens will continue to play after World Championship
It will be a good year for danish badminton :)yea, me too expected sumthin big from pg, i see that last year wasnt really wat people call 'incredible' for him, but lets just see wat he has for us this year
winning wc? mmm, my pick is still lin dan tho

just saw copenhagen open....sang/zheng seems impressive....promising MD team for 2005? yes,china's MD usually their weakest point

If u ask me the answer is this-NO ONE WILL DOMINATE IN 2005:D .simply because in almost every category especially the MS there are around 10 players who can take the title.So it's simple, nobody as such can throw his weight on others for the entire year.anyways it seems pullela gopichand is making a comeback.could he be the suprise package??well i just hope so:)

If u ask me the answer is this-NO ONE WILL DOMINATE IN 2005:D .simply because in almost every category especially the MS there are around 10 players who can take the title.So it's simple, nobody as such can throw his weight on others for the entire year.anyways it seems pullela gopichand is making a comeback.could he be the suprise package??well i just hope so:)

Man, if Peter Gade plays like how he did during the second set of 2000 Sydney Olympics he'd be unstoppable. He was awesome back then with such speed, power, and accuracy. Too bad he was injured and had to undergo some knee operations.

Actually, I am still kind of impressed that after some injuries and operations he still maintain the form that he has right now. I don't think many other players can do the same.

hey, really hope to see peter win some titles ler.....especially the WC, cannot end up like morten frost....

hmmmm.....we are almost half way thru year 2005.....

looks like lindan,xie xingfang,zhangning,and the chinese WD are still very very dominant....

cheng hong victory in AE was quite unpredictable and the different winners in MX and MD in every tournaments are quite interesting to watch

recently taufik has prove him self that he is in good shape to scoope the WC title... while lin dan still the best player who has possiblity to become the biggest challanger after all...

WS still dominated by Chinese ladies... and even worse they were produce the new line up jiang yiauw in singapore Open.

MD is dominated by indonesian pair which put 4 pairs in the top 10 this moment... even there are two powerfull danish pair in top of the list but it wouldn't stop indonesia to get MD title in WC

WD also a bit boring even some surprise had come when the qualification player could played till semifinal in S.open. it was the indonesian pair novita /polli who make the surprised after all. they dump number #4 world pair from korea in the 2nd round. and then they kick the malaysian pair from the turnament. but finaly they have to stop their game when the chinese showed their strenght as a powerfull pair and the champion after all.

In XD no big change... thais, english, chinese, danish, malay has shown their best in this dicipline!!!

In XD no big change... thais, english, chinese, danish, malay has shown their best in this dicipline!!!

i am a fan of XD so i will chime in a little bit.

i think there are some very promising pairs recently, and they provided great spectors in recent tournaments.

one of my favorite is Sudket/Saralee (THA), less stable at times but both show great skills and detemination. they managed to topple Zhang/Gao in the Singapore Open last year.

we cannot forget Thomas Laybourn / Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN), who stormed into the AE2005 final unseeded.

how about Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (INA). Lilyana is simply sensational with her speed, defense and composure. Nova is a good XD player but sometimes can be rather shaky. this pair is a joy to watch when they are in good form.

although China do have some of the top pairs like Zhang/Gao, somehow i am not a fan of their style of mixed. not sure how to describe it, but perhaps lack in creativity? too rigid?

the latest AE2005 semi and finals are a treat for mixed doubles fans.

if peter gade heals (goes back to his peak form)by august, which is probably impossible.. do you think he can beat taufik and lindan?

if peter gade heals (goes back to his peak form)by august, which is probably impossible.. do you think he can beat taufik and lindan?

Chances are Peter will never fully heal and go back to the way he used to play. However, I believe that with his experience and modivation, he has a chance to beat taufik and lin dan if he works hard. In addition, I found that his shots are a lot more accurate compared to pre-injury Peter Gade and he has developed better mentality. Go peter :D

hey .you are so right. so evny you are so familiar with the situation in badminton.