View Full Version : German Open Semi-Finals Day
hcyong
03-03-2005, 06:59 PM
Today promises to be a great day, and at the rate the German Open is going right now, I hope the All-England will not be anti-climatic.
MS
Lin D v Bao CL
Hafiz v Lee CW
If you take Taufik, Kenneth and Peter out of the equation, these 4 semi-finalists are the form players right now, so it is good that they did not cancel one another out in earlier rounds. Although the matches may seem uninteresting due to players of the same nationalities playing each other, but I think it is just the opposite. Both matches are similar in that Lin and Lee will try to stamp their top ranking in the national order, while Bao (who has been in the shadow long enough) and Hafiz will try to overthrow the leader.
WS
Zhang N v Hirose E
Xie XF v Pi HY
The score of her victory over Zhou Mi seems to place Hirose on the same level as Zhang, but Zhang is an entirely different proposition altogether. If Hirose can beat Zhang in an all-out match, then the WS scene will be entirely shaken. But I will still place my bets on Zhang. I don't think she is defeatable just yet. I expect the other semi-final to be a close affair.
MD
Eriksen/Lungaard v Kidho/Setiawan
Fu/Cai v Jung/Lee
Based on their results since the Singapore Open (when I began to take notice), I think Jung/Lee have arrived at the MD scene. You can expect them to be one of the big guns in every tournament, and I expect them to give Fu/Cai a big fight. Kidho/Setiawan is unknown to me. I have never seen them before and even though beating Choong/Chew is not a very big deal, it does mean something. We shall see how they fare today. Eriksen/Lungaard are firm favourites for the title.
WD
Lee KW/Lee HJ v Gao/Huang
Chin/Wong v Wei/Zhao
Both very exciting ties. Chin/Wong famously defeated Wei/Zhao in Singapore. Wei/Zhao will be very determined to even the score and also to prove themselves in light of the emergence of Du/Yu. But Chin/Wong, if not dominant, are feisty fighters and they have nothing to lose. For the whole day, if there is only one match I can watch, I will watch the other semi-final. Just replace Lee HJ with Ra and we are reminded of the sweet old times. But Lee HJ is every bit a good replacement and defeating the World No 1 will spur the Koreans. Gao/Huang will be determined to relive better times with the defeat of their nemesis Yang/Zhang.
XD
Robertson/Emms v Zhang/Gao
Lee JJ/Lee HJ v Chen/Zhao
Despite missing the lustre of yester-years, the top semi-final will still be interesting. Perhaps Robertson/Emms, spurred by the momentous occasion of meeting their old foes, will give their all, and maybe we shall see the Olympic final again. The Lees are worthy Korean Open winners and I think this semi-final could also go either way.
seawell
03-03-2005, 07:42 PM
I hope Zhang ning win!come on!!!! :D
Thanks hcyong for your updates and interesting analyses.
I'm surprised that you did not watch Kidho/Setiawan during the Singapore Open. I think they made the headlines only last year, together with the other more successful pair Luluk/Alven, which I think is more stable and cohesive. I must admit that I was a little confused with these two up-and-coming pairs when they first made it to the limelight and even now, it takes me some effort to be able to identify them. IMO, these two younger pairs will form the backbone of Indonesia's men's doubles team, replacing the renewed partnership of Candra/Sigit and Eng/Flandi, both pairs perhaps already past their prime.
Pi Hongyan seems to be in great form lately but her battle with Xie Xingfang will be a different and difficult proposition. Xie is hungry for the WR No.1 position (Zhang Ning beware!) and will not likely let Pi grab the limelight from her. So it should be an interesting fight between two ethnic Chinese players, one who's been exported and the other, a hot local China favourite.
*GaDe~CaMiLlA*
03-03-2005, 11:48 PM
come one malaysia!!!!!!
hcyong
03-04-2005, 01:31 AM
I'm surprised that you did not watch Kidho/Setiawan during the Singapore Open. I think they made the headlines only last year, together with the other more successful pair Luluk/Alven, which I think is more stable and cohesive.
There were many matches being played simultaneously, and I could have easily missed the Kidho/Setiawan match. Then, their results were not worth noticing, so it's not surprising that I missed them. Luluk/Alven has been big for quite a while already. They were even world no 1 for a brief moment. We will just have to see how Kidho/Setiawan fares.
seven
03-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Kidho/Setiawan reached the final of the Denmark Open last October (already beating Eriksen/Lundgaard in the semis), they are clearly a very good MD pair!!
suetyan
03-04-2005, 04:31 AM
i hope that Lin Dan and Xie Xingfang win again !!!!!
*~Taufik~*
03-04-2005, 04:35 AM
May the FORCE be with Bao Chunlai!! :D
Anatolii
03-04-2005, 04:49 AM
i'm going for bao chunlai and zhang ning :D
FEND.
03-04-2005, 04:53 AM
mmm. LCW will pull it off vs Hafiz. Finals would be LD vs LCW. I reckon.
Just my gut feeling on this one.
jkusmanto
03-04-2005, 05:09 AM
I don't think Bao can beat Lin.
As I know (I can be wrong), Bao has never beat Lin.
Lee is a new generation of Malaysia. I think he can beat Hafiz.
So, the MS final will be played between Lin vs Lee.
Zhang Ning still the best, if a lady can beat her at this moment, she is Hirose. But Hirose has to work very hard.
My dream for MD final is Kidho/Setiawan vs Jung/Lee. Maybe just a dream, but who knows will come true.
It is hard for Kidho/Setiawan to beat a more experince Eriksen/Lungaard.
But they are young and 'hungry'.
Fu/Cai is unstable they performance is up and down.
They young Jung/Lee have a strong motivate to beat them to be a new Korean MD.
I have no doubt to choose Gao/Huang for the WD title.
XD is unpredictable, all the semi finalist has a quality to beat each other.
I am a little bit for Zhang/Gao.
Syaoran_Style
03-04-2005, 05:11 AM
I wiish hongyan can reach the final !! she can beat xie she did it, i guess it was last year ... she swept cheng shaoh sieh 11-4 11-1 and her coach fabrice vallet said that she played perfectly if she can play like that against xie she can win =))
Troncheur
03-04-2005, 05:27 AM
I wiish hongyan can reach the final !! she can beat xie she did it, i guess it was last year ... she swept cheng shaoh sieh 11-4 11-1 and her coach fabrice vallet said that she played perfectly if she can play like that against xie she can win =))
Maybe hongyan has a chance in her new weapon : net to kill. She seems to have changed her game when losing yesterday in the deciding game.
Clearly, Hongyan is lacking some extra weapon when she usually plays top chinese players in the semis. I hope that this changements can help her in the last ans so important points.
Good luck 3,14 !
prince_user
03-04-2005, 06:30 AM
I don't think Bao can beat Lin.
As I know (I can be wrong), Bao has never beat Lin.
Lee is a new generation of Malaysia. I think he can beat Hafiz.
So, the MS final will be played between Lin vs Lee.
Zhang Ning still the best, if a lady can beat her at this moment, she is Hirose. But Hirose has to work very hard.
My dream for MD final is Kidho/Setiawan vs Jung/Lee. Maybe just a dream, but who knows will come true.
It is hard for Kidho/Setiawan to beat a more experince Eriksen/Lungaard.
But they are young and 'hungry'.
Fu/Cai is unstable they performance is up and down.
They young Jung/Lee have a strong motivate to beat them to be a new Korean MD.
I have no doubt to choose Gao/Huang for the WD title.
XD is unpredictable, all the semi finalist has a quality to beat each other.
I am a little bit for Zhang/Gao.
Bao Chunlai beat Lin Dan in the semifinals of the Japan Open 2004. I believe that Bao has beaten Lin in the not too distant past as well.
Neil Nicholls
03-04-2005, 07:04 AM
As I know (I can be wrong), Bao has never beat Lin.
A while back now, but I remember this one because it was one of the first tournaments I ever saw on TV (I had to look up the score though)
Bao beat Lin in the Final of the Danish Open 2001 7-5, 7-1, 7-0
seven
03-04-2005, 07:09 AM
As I know (I can be wrong), Bao has never beat Lin.
Bao Chunlai won against Lin Dan in the Japan Open last year.
I think Lin Dan gave him the match though...
chinadoll
03-04-2005, 08:33 AM
i go for the chinese couple...... hehehe
hope they can win german title together again :D
seawell
03-04-2005, 08:39 AM
LEE, Jae Jin/LEE, Hyo Jung 2:1(13 : 15 15 : 8 15 : 7 ) CHEN, Qiqiu/ZHAO, Tingting
seawell
03-04-2005, 08:57 AM
Robertson/Emms 2:0 Zhang/Gao
WHAT!?! :eek:
Well, that should teach some (as in myself) to never under-estimate Gail & Nathan...
Hafiz beat Lee: 15:03 - 15:07!!!
Very IMPRESSIVE.
jkusmanto
03-04-2005, 09:49 AM
So... I did wrong between Lin vs Bao. Sorry.
It seems that my prediction is pretty wrong.
MS : Hafiz has beaten Lee
XD : All Chinees are downed. Robertson/Emms take revance and Lee/Lee will replace Kim/Ra ???
whizkelv
03-04-2005, 09:58 AM
Convincing victory for Misbun over Li Mao.
Hope his boys are not only invincible for compatriots, but barbequed feast for other foreign stars! :D
Fook90
03-04-2005, 10:00 AM
It's been such a long time since I last posted. Anyway I am very relived that Hafiz has LCW, I feel he has a better approach with dealing with Lin Dan than LCW. I am suppposing Lin Dan would win later.
seawell
03-04-2005, 10:10 AM
Welldone ZHANG NING!
WS
Zhang N 11:4,11:4 Hirose E :D
I am surprised that Hafiz beat Lee. Maybe Hafiz is on the way back. The finals should be interesting.
wl2172
03-04-2005, 10:53 AM
I am surprised that Hafiz beat Lee. Maybe Hafiz is on the way back. The finals should be interesting.
I think this is a tactical move more than anything. Lee CW's ranking is high, but Hafiz's is low. Also, Lee CW may have been asked to take it easy as well as his main target is the All England, not German Open.
Anyway, in my opinion, both Hafiz and Chong Wei are equally strong. Therefore the scoreline is a little unbelievable.
happy go lucky
03-04-2005, 11:25 AM
Exactly my point. Well said wl; also it is a strategy employed by others; beside Li Mao and Misbun both want Hafiz to make the World Championship in US ;) I hope my comment would not stir up controversy :p
I think this is a tactical move more than anything. Lee CW's ranking is high, but Hafiz's is low. Also, Lee CW may have been asked to take it easy as well as his main target is the All England, not German Open.
Anyway, in my opinion, both Hafiz and Chong Wei are equally strong. Therefore the scoreline is a little unbelievable.
Syaoran_Style
03-04-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm nervous .. the match btw hongyan and xingfang is beginning =// gooo honyan !! =)
i guess hafiz is regaining his form that helped him to win the all englan title in 2003
So Li Yongbo's method "1 game win all" has applied to Malaysia too. I don't think Lee Chong Wei intentionally let Hafiz win but no reason to stretch to rubber once LCW lost game 1. The same can be said about Lin Dan vs Boa Chunlai, afterall the main objective is to win the big one, All England.
No harm done as the final is still very exciting, at least on paper.
I think this is a tactical move more than anything. Lee CW's ranking is high, but Hafiz's is low. Also, Lee CW may have been asked to take it easy as well as his main target is the All England, not German Open.
Anyway, in my opinion, both Hafiz and Chong Wei are equally strong. Therefore the scoreline is a little unbelievable.
This s*cks if Lee deliberately lost or took it easy. He should fight to win no matter what. I hope Malaysia is not doing a China in terms of playing for team advantage.
I am also surprised to see that China is out of the mixed doubles.
hcyong
03-04-2005, 02:57 PM
In the women's events, China restored their world order and put their opponents back in their proper humble positions again. None of the four losing semi-finalists even managed to garner enough points to win a set, Chin/Wong not even managing five points in total.
In the mixed doubles though, China failed to qualify a finalist, though none of the losses were unexpected. Lee/Lee's title in Korea was no fluke and they confirm it by beating Chen/Zhao. Meanwhile, Robertson/Emms exacted some revenge over Zhang/Gao. It will be interesting to see how the All-England turns out because all the top mixed pairs seem evenly matched.
No major surprises in the MD as the veterans and favourites ran through straightforward victories. The top two seeds justified their seedings and I think we are in for an explosive final because I believe Cai/Fu, based on their results this week, are playing near their best.
Lin Dan, not surprisingly, beat Bao Chunlai again.
Personally, I don't believe Lee CW threw his match. If he did, his score would have been higher (to make it look convincing), and furthermore I don't seem to remember Malaysians in the habit of doing that. Hafiz had been dogging him in the local circuit last year and the score between them has been quite even. Hafiz and Lee CW are both erratic players, Hafiz to a higher degree. If both are at their best, I seriously don't know who will win, but it will be a match to savour. Hafiz beating Lee CW does not surprise me. I only hope he can perform close to his best tomorrow to make a worthy final.
Qidong
03-04-2005, 07:09 PM
Xie has been quite successfull against Zhang Ning in the past 2 years. The golden couple can shine again in Germany. :)
I don't think Bao can beat Lin.
As I know (I can be wrong), Bao has never beat Lin.
i think Bao has beaten Lin before.
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