AE2005 Day 2

[Han]

No one is providing the in depth analysis/matchup of day 2?

[Han]

Well, dirty job, somebody has to do it :) , so my pick on MS:
LIN Dan vs Aamir GHAFFAR ------------------>Lin Dan;
LEE Hyun-Il vs Sairul Amar AYOB ------------->Ayob;
Shoji SATO vs Muhammad Hafiz -------------->Hafiz;
LIAO Sheng-Shiun vs WONG Choong Hann ---->Wong;
AHN Hyun-Suk vs BAO Chunlai --------------->Boa;
SHON Seung-Mo vs CHEN Hong -------------->Close call;
KUAN Beng Hong vs LEE Chong Wei ----------->Lee;
Muhammad Roslin HASHIM vs Peter GADE ------>Peter;
**The match of the day : SHON Seung-Mo vs CHEN Hong;

[Anatolii]

i see you haven't included the 'in depth analysis', Han :D.. but we'll leave that to hcyong shan't we ? ;)

quite predictable.. my prediction's pretty much the same except that i think lee hyun-il would win his match.

i just hope they won't spring anymore surprises on me.. i don't think my heart will be able to take news like 'lindan lost to ghaffar' :eek: ..

[hcyong]

The match of the day I think is Shoji Sato v Hafiz Hashim.
I think Chen Hong will have a straightforward win over Shon.
We should also keep an eye on Ahn Hyun-Suk.
And I think your prediction of an Ayob win is gutsy but may just be right.

[hcyong]

Interesting matches in the WS,
Wong Mew Choo v Cheng Shao-Chieh
Jun Jae-Youn v Tine Rasmussen (match of the day)
Wang Rong v Xu Huaiwen
Kaori Mori v Pi Hongyan

Possible interesting last 16 matchups (also held today)
Gong Ruina v Mia Audina
Eriko Hirose v Tao Jie

[Loh]

The match of the day I think is Shoji Sato v Hafiz Hashim.
I think Chen Hong will have a straightforward win over Shon.
We should also keep an eye on Ahn Hyun-Suk.
And I think your prediction of an Ayob win is gutsy but may just be right.

Yes Shoji is in good form and may spring a surpise. Hafiz must not take the proceedings lightly and lose focus if he wants to revenge his German loss to Lin Dan. To defeat the pernicious and highly seasoned K Jonassen by Shoji is no mean task.

Not so easy for Chen Hong though as he was beaten by Shon in Athens, albeit that Shon is still a little rusty.

Well Anatolli, Lin Dan was blowing hot and cold and was drawn into a 3-gamer by the Dane, Kasper in Round 2. Remember he was also surprisingly ousted by Ronald Susilo at Athens in the first round. So, I have to train my heart not ot palpitate too much if Lin should disappoint again! :D

So much has to depend on the player's form, mental and physical condition during the match itself. A distraction here and there, a loss of focus which was not checked in time, the inability to change strategy and tactics to overcome a losing streak, etc, may well cause the downfall of the best, at least on paper.

[hcyong]

MD provide lots of exciting matches today

Ong Soon Hock/Tan Bin Shen v Jeon Jun-Bum/Lee Yong-Dae
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng v Chew Choon Eng/Choong Tan Fook
Han Sang-Hoon/Hwang Ji-Man v Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat
Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo v Sang Yang/Zheng Bo
Howard Bach/Tony Gunawan v Sigit/Chandra
Jung Jae-Sung/Lee Jae-Jin v Luluk/Alven (match of the day)

Prediction on quarterfinalists
Eriksen/Lundgaard
Ha Tae-Kwon/Yim Bang-Eun
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
Flandi/Eng Hian
Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat (or Sang/Zheng)
Paaske/Rasmussen
Laybourn/Steffensen
Chandra/Sigit

[hcyong]

In the XD,
Eriksen/Schjoldager v Laybourn/Rytter
Zhang Jun/Gao Ling v Xie Zhongbo/Yu Yang
Anggun/Yunita v Mogensen/Olsen
Lee Jae-Jin/Lee Hyo-Jung v Robertson/Blair (match of the day)

The rest should go according to seeding.

[hcyong]

For the WD, I think the seeded players will get to the Qfinals except for
8th-seeded locals Tripp/Wright who are unlucky to have Du Jing/Yu Yang drawn into their portion
Olsen/Schjoldager could face stiff resistance in both the first two rounds to be played today.

[Anatolii]

Well Anatolli, Lin Dan was blowing hot and cold and was drawn into a 3-gamer by the Dane, Kasper in Round 2. Remember he was also surprisingly ousted by Ronald Susilo at Athens in the first round. So, I have to train my heart not ot palpitate too much if Lin should disappoint again! :D
i know i know.. :( ..like my practical ex-chemistry teacher always said: "prepare for the worst, just hope for the best".. i guess the worst would be something like: none o chinese MS advanced to QF. .. if i can prepare myself for That, i'll be ready for anything.

i should stop thinking such dark thoughts.

[Anatolii]

Lee Jae-Jin/Lee Hyo-Jung v Robertson/Blair (match of the day)
surely it's Emms instead of Blair ;)

[happy go lucky]

Too bad, Kenneth Jonasson lost. Now that he is gone, i see a quarterfinal matchup between WCH and Hafiz Hashim. I hope WCH does not delibarately lost to Hafiz Hashim, due to the latter's low ranking. Ok i could be wrong, we shall see ;)
Yes Shoji is in good form and may spring a surpise. Hafiz must not take the proceedings lightly and lose focus if he wants to revenge his German loss to Lin Dan. To defeat the pernicious and highly seasoned K Jonassen by Shoji is no mean task.

Not so easy for Chen Hong though as he was beaten by Shon in Athens, albeit that Shon is still a little rusty.

Well Anatolli, Lin Dan was blowing hot and cold and was drawn into a 3-gamer by the Dane, Kasper in Round 2. Remember he was also surprisingly ousted by Ronald Susilo at Athens in the first round. So, I have to train my heart not ot palpitate too much if Lin should disappoint again! :D

So much has to depend on the player's form, mental and physical condition during the match itself. A distraction here and there, a loss of focus which was not checked in time, the inability to change strategy and tactics to overcome a losing streak, etc, may well cause the downfall of the best, at least on paper.

[aiyuuw]

well, i agree, the match between shon seung mo and chen hong will be interesting, and as for md, its just wow! jung / lee vs alven/luluk, and chandra/sigit vs tony/howard matches are to die for! i wonder how it'll turn out
watsup with lin dan? he doesnt usually have to play third set, is that guy good, whi?kasper? sorry, dont really know, but from what ive heard , hes not really a no-namer huh?

[rwchen]

My predictions are not far away. The higher ranked players look good to advance on paper. Sairul Amar Ayub may give Lee Hyun Il a good fight before bowing down.The match between Chen Hong and Shon may go either way and Bao has to be wary of Ahn Hyun Suk, the Korean Open quater finalist. It's Li Mao vs Misbun in the match between Kuan BH and Lee CW . Malaysian players do well so far and should have not less than 3 players in the quaterfinals, quite an achievement after the appointment of KH Yap as the chiefcoach.


Well, dirty job, somebody has to do it :) , so my pick on MS:
LIN Dan vs Aamir GHAFFAR ------------------>Lin Dan;
LEE Hyun-Il vs Sairul Amar AYOB ------------->Ayob;
Shoji SATO vs Muhammad Hafiz -------------->Hafiz;
LIAO Sheng-Shiun vs WONG Choong Hann ---->Wong;
AHN Hyun-Suk vs BAO Chunlai --------------->Boa;
SHON Seung-Mo vs CHEN Hong -------------->Close call;
KUAN Beng Hong vs LEE Chong Wei ----------->Lee;
Muhammad Roslin HASHIM vs Peter GADE ------>Peter;
**The match of the day : SHON Seung-Mo vs CHEN Hong;

[Loh]

Too bad, Kenneth Jonasson lost. Now that he is gone, i see a quarterfinal matchup between WCH and Hafiz Hashim. I hope WCH does not delibarately lost to Hafiz Hashim, due to the latter's low ranking. Ok i could be wrong, we shall see ;)

I think to 'deliberately lose to Hafiz' must not, and cannot, be the arrangement as WCH has much to lose himself. He is suffering from a loss of confidence for not being to win the majors for sometime now. His ranking has suffered from being WR No.1 at one time. Obviously his income has suffered too and now that he is in a 'different camp' from Hafiz, being trained by new Chinese coach Li Mao instead of Misbun, he has to prove that he has benefitted from Li's coaching.

Remember, Lee Chong Wei, now also trained by Li, recently lost (for the first time) to Hafiz in the German Open and you can't afford to have another of Li's top trainees lose to Hafiz again. 'Face' and honour is very much a part of a man's reputation in this part of the world. :D

[other]

mmm....shon has done the double over chen hong in the wc03 and olympics 04....i hope chen can win here at the ae05:)

[seven]

mmm....shon has done the double over chen hong in the wc03 and olympics 04....i hope chen can win here at the ae05:) Yes, Shon has been rather successful against Chen Hong in the past years :


PLAYER HEAD-TO-HEAD
SHON Seung Mo (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=10183&firstrec=0&recno=1&recs=1&searchplayernumber=10183) 3 - 2 CHEN Hong (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=9689&firstrec=0&recno=1&recs=1&searchplayernumber=9689)



http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/uploads/10183b.JPG http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/uploads/9689c.jpg


KOR National Authority CHN
1 Jul 1980 Date of Birth 28 Nov 1979
Kyungnam-Province Place of Birth Fujian
181 Height 181
- Weight -
Right Right/Left Handed Right


Year Tournament & Nation Round Winner Score
2004 OLYMPIC GAMES 2004 GREECE Quarter-Finals SHON 10-15 15-4 15-10
2003 World Championships 2003 ENGLAND Quarter-Finals SHON 5-15 17-14 15-9
2000 Korea Open 2000 (I) KOREA 1/32 SHON 15-11 3-15 15-6
1999 Asia Badminton Champs 99 (I) MALAYSIA 1/16 CHEN 13-15 17-16 9-15

Team Tournaments
Year Tournament & Nation Round Winner Score
2001 Sudirman Cup 2001 (T) SPAIN TEAM CHEN 8-15 6-15

[happy go lucky]

Do you seriously think that Hafiz is not suffering from loss of confidence? And what about his income also? :) Misbun had in the past spoke to the press about his disciple, i hope you can reconsider what you have just say. Check that.
I shall reserve my opinion about the match between LCW and Hafiz last week:D You are not in the Malaysian camp and how do you know what's going on inside. Are you an insider?
This is good. Thanks you for your comment. I really enjoy it. Chong Wei's loss to Hafiz( is it 15:4 and 15:7? ) Jesus christ. In Loh we trust



I think to 'deliberately lose to Hafiz' must not, and cannot, be the arrangement as WCH has much to lose himself. He is suffering from a loss of confidence for not being to win the majors for sometime now. His ranking has suffered from being WR No.1 at one time. Obviously his income has suffered too and now that he is in a 'different camp' from Hafiz, being trained by new Chinese coach Li Mao instead of Misbun, he has to prove that he has benefitted from Li's coaching.

Remember, Lee Chong Wei, now also trained by Li, recently lost (for the first time) to Hafiz in the German Open and you can't afford to have another of Li's top trainees lose to Hafiz again. 'Face' and honour is very much a part of a man's reputation in this part of the world. :D

[kwun]

when Chen Hong was the #1 for like the longest amount of time, he used to be a reliable and consistent player who is able to get to at least the semi-final stage of all tournament. lately however, he has been much less consistent and most of the time won't even advance beyond quarterfinal.

[happy go lucky]

According to Loh's theory, chen hong is suffering from loss of confidence and income? what do you think? This AE is definitely memorable.
when Chen Hong was the #1 for like the longest amount of time, he used to be a reliable and consistent player who is able to get to at least the semi-final stage of all tournament. lately however, he has been much less consistent and most of the time won't even advance beyond quarterfinal.

[Anatolii]

According to Loh's theory, chen hong is suffering from loss of confidence and income? what do you think? This AE is definitely memorable.you're confusing me, i thought loh was referring to choong han in the whole of his post.

aah, you probably got mixed up since they both have the same initials.

[aiyuuw]

you're confusing me, i thought loh was referring to choong han in the whole of his post.

aah, you probably got mixed up since they both have the same initials. i got mixed up too, why dont we make an agreement that wch is for wong and ch for chen hong

[seven]

One of the first matches will be Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Laybourn/Rytter Juhl.

Do you think Thomas and Kamilla will win again, as they did in the danish national champs?

This would be a great confirmation if they did... :)

[seven]

Mixed doubles :
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms

Women's singles :
Jun Jae Youn vs Tine Rasmussen
Kaori Mori vs Pi Hongyan

Men's singles :
Shon Seung Mo vs Chen Hong

Women's doubles :
Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Cheng Wen Hsing/Chieng Yu Chin

Men's doubles :
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng vs Chew Choong Eng/Choong Tan Fook
Howard Bach/Tony Gunawan vs Sigit Budiarto/Candra Wijaya
Jun Jae Sung/Lee Jae Jin vs Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto

[seven]

One of the first matches will be Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Laybourn/Rytter Juhl.

Do you think Thomas and Kamilla will win again, as they did in the danish national champs?

This would be a great confirmation if they did... :)
15-8 for Laybourn/Rytter Juhl in the first game! :)
Go Thomas !! :cool:

[seven]

11-5 for Jens/Mette in the second game now... this is going to three sets...

[seven]

Thomas/Kamilla came back from 13-7 down to now lead 14-13 !!! :eek:

[LarssoN*]

11-5 for Jens/Mette in the second game now... this is going to three sets...For those who don't know Jens and Mette lost to Thomas and Kamilla

15 -8 , 15 - 13 to Tomas and Kamilla

[seven]

Thomas and Kamilla have beaten the first seeds 15-8 15-13!

Zhang Jun/Gao Ling are also in trouble against teammates (beaten 15-6 in the first game by Xie Zhongbo and Yu Yang!)

[02011953]

They have been to the wars, did you know

1. Xiexienfang was a doubles specialist. WJC and Runner-up in WD & XD respectively in WJC 2000 and 4 years later she is China's top WS player.

2. Wang Rong was twice topseed in the WJC but lost one final and earlier in the 2nd try. Her record in the senior ranks is indifferent - worse than Chen Li.

3. Lee Chong Wei is in the right company among the elite.He was the Fourth Man in the 2000 WJC SF, beaten by Kuncorro (then only 15+) while Lin fell to Boa who then took out Kuncorro. Remember Khoo Kay Kim and you will know why LCW is star quality.

4. Du Jing and Yu Yang are both WJC in WD/XD though with different partners in 2002 (2004?)

5. Ditto for GuoZhendong and XieZhongo (2002, 2004) in the footsteps of Sang/Zheng who featuered in both 2000 WJC XD & MD finals, also with different partners - one of them Zhang Yawen who with Zhang Dan was dropped for AE tho' ranked 4th in the world - presumably after that recent surprise flop. Y http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon3.gif

[andymcg]

Zhao/Gao now down 9-0 in the second set having lost the first!

Another upset on the cards :eek:

[andymcg]

Are Mogensen/Olsen out now as well?

They lost the first game 15-9 and were 14-11 down in the second. Now the score seems to have stuck.

[andymcg]

Zhang/Gao now back to 9-6 down in the second set.

[Anatolii]

Zhao/Gao now down 9-0 in the second set having lost the first!

Another upset on the cards :eek:
Shucks! no way! :crying: why oh why.

[andymcg]

Lee/Lee took the first set against Robertson & Emms 15-10.

Seeds look to be dropping like flies!

[andymcg]

Zhang/Gao now 10-9 up!!

[aiyuuw]

Are Mogensen/Olsen out now as well?

They lost the first game 15-9 and were 14-11 down in the second. Now the score seems to have stuck. yea, theyre out, 15-9/15-11, nugroho/tetty won
robertson and emms also lost the first game

[aiyuuw]

mia audina won her first game, gong ruina leading 10-4, zhang/gao 11-11

[andymcg]

11-11 2nd set in the all chinese mixed.

The live scoring seems to have lost the shuttle that was there yesterday to tell you who is serving! There also seem to be some matches from yesterday still in the live scoring system.

Robertson/Emms 6-3 up in the second set.

Mia took the first set against Elizabeth Cann 11-8.

[andymcg]

13-12 to Xie/Yu vs Zhang/Gao.

In fact its 13-13!!

[andymcg]

Zhang/Gao take the 2nd set 15-13.

[kwun]

Kaori Mori took first game from Pi, 11/6

[kwun]

is it just me or is the score kinda stuck...?

[02011953]

Zhang/Gao take the 2nd set 15-13.
Thank god! Otherwise what a wholesale slaughter this day would turn out to be for the XD high flyers. But I suppose one has to expect the youngsters to be hungry and to push anyone (whether compatriot or not) out of the nest if there is only food for one mouth. Y:cool:

[kwun]

Gong RN gave Julia Mann a duck in the 2nd set. 11/5 11/0

[kwun]

Robertson/Emms leading Lee/Lee 10-7 in the 2nd game.

[Mag]

I don't believe this! I got out for lunch, and what happens? Jens & Mette are out, Mogensen & Olsen are out... :crying: :eek:

Well, I guess it means that now they can focus on their doubles instead. :p

[hcyong]

I don't believe this! I got out for lunch, and what happens? Jens & Mette are out, Mogensen & Olsen are out... :crying: :eek:

Well, I guess it means that now they can focus on their doubles instead. :p

Next time, don't go out for lunch.

[whizkelv]

Go Korea!!
Topple Nathan/Gail on their "neutral" ground and in front of their "unbiased" judges & linesmen!! :D

[jkusmanto]

According to "Online Website", Julia MANN Retired at 7-0 in the 2nd set.


Gong RN gave Julia Mann a duck in the 2nd set. 11/5 11/0

[SmartCivet]

Go Korea!!
Topple Nathan/Gail on their "neutral" ground and in front of their "unbiased" judges & linesmen!! :D

Nathan/Gail has beat LEE/LEE.2-1(10-15/15-11/15-7)

[FEND.]

This is really one heck of an All-England. Something like the FA Cup where every1 can beat every1 else!! Pi Hongyan just crashed out too....

[02011953]

I don't believe this! I got out for lunch, and what happens? Jens & Mette are out, Mogensen & Olsen are out... :crying: :eek:

Well, I guess it means that now they can focus on their doubles instead. :p
That is not the only one conclusion to draw from the outcome. The other as that there is a changing of the guards and Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao are also feeling the heat. The latter survived, but I am afraid I think that last set is a fix. Watch out for the MD where Sang/Zheng face Xie & Partner. Robertson/Emms are at least having to battle and perhaps hope to get a 3rd set and win it. Y:confused:

[Troncheur]

Pi Hongyan just crashed out too....
What on earth did japanese players eat recently ?
After Hirose, Mori hurts our Pi in 2 sets...

we're bound to have 4 jap WS in 3rd round (mori, hirose, yonekura and surely hiramaya) !!

new coach, new racket, new generation ? Uber cup may found a new finalist against china ...

[jkusmanto]

HIRAMAYA in trouble, 2-6 behind.

[jkusmanto]

Hiramaya now in the leading 9-6. Waouuuuuuuuuu..............

[jkusmanto]

10-10 now. What a match.

[coops241180]

lol - 9-6 up now..


the next couple of hours are going to be messy for england, all three mens doubles pairs have hard matches. The only pair that could get by are archer adn clark, but the polish pair are no pushover. Laingdridge and Middleton will enjoy the experience agains Ha Tae Kwon and Yim Bang Eun same for Paul Trueman and Ian Palethorpe against Eriksen and Lundgaard, but i fear that could be a total annihlation..

whatever happens.. come on the lads!

[seven]

Hiramaya now in the leading 9-6. Waouuuuuuuuuu..............
12-10 for Hirayama ........

[jkusmanto]

Finally Hiramaya win with 13-10.

[seven]

12-10 for Hirayama ........
Final score : 9-11 11-1 13-10 for Hirayama

[coops241180]

hehe - check it out..
Gunawan is playing Budiarto and Wijaya..

where's Haryanto when you need him :)

[seven]

hehe - check it out..
Gunawan is playing Budiarto and Wijaya..

where's Haryanto when you need him :)
This should be a good match! :)

[fanatico]

the japanese have been motivated by their badminton comics!!! ahhh!!!! why singapore dont have?!

[seven]

Zhang Ning lost the second game to Ella Karachkova (11-6).

One game all now...

[oiseau]

the japanese have been motivated by their badminton comics!!! ahhh!!!! why singapore dont have?!
u kidding:rolleyes:

[whizkelv]

Interesting matches in the WS,
Wong Mew Choo v Cheng Shao-Chieh
Jun Jae-Youn v Tine Rasmussen (match of the day)
Wang Rong v Xu Huaiwen
Kaori Mori v Pi Hongyan

Possible interesting last 16 matchups (also held today)
Gong Ruina v Mia Audina
Eriko Hirose v Tao Jie

Wong MC won 11-6, 11-1.
Possibly play world no 1, Zhang Ning in the late evening.

[FEND.]

Wong MC won 11-6, 11-1.
Possibly play world no 1, Zhang Ning in the late evening.
Oo.. Malaysian womens players having a good day???

[seven]

Wong MC won 11-6, 11-1.
Possibly play world no 1, Zhang Ning in the late evening.
Yes that's a nice win for Wong Mew Choo.

Zhang Ning is leading 8-4 in the decider so she will probably be her next opponent.
Ella Karachkova seems to be putting up a good fight however! :D

[andymcg]

Eriksen/Lundgaard are only 10-8 up in the first set against Trueman/Palethorpe. They are either playing very well or Eriksen is continuing his nightmare from earlier :eek:

[Mag]

Hmm... Palethorpe/Trueman is holding up well against Eriksen/Lundgaard. 10-8 in 1st for the Danes now. This really should be no match for the Danes. I've seen Palethorpe/Trueman in a tournament here in Sweden, and, no offense, but they are a class or three below the Danes. So I suspect the Danes aren't really performing... :mad:

[Mag]

Ong/Tan seem to be doing well against Jeon/Lee. That young Malaysian pair is going to become really good in a few years time.

[candra W]

candra-sigit just started, hope the can win

[candra W]

omg eriksen/hanssen behind 13-12

[coops241180]

have to agree with you there mag, i saw them at the nationals recently and they got creamed by archer and clark. seems nothing is going right for Jens today..


13-12 to the brits..!!

hmmm - wonder if jens is ill? injured?

remember seeing tracey hallam at the nationals - she'd had some virus.. you never know.

it would certainly explaint hings

[seven]

Maybe home ground is playing in their favour... :confused:

[whizkelv]

Tan/Ong leading 8-5 in game 2.
They need to do well here to qualify for WC.

[andymcg]

15-14 first set to Palethorpe/Trueman. I presume they are setting.

[FEND.]

Ong/Tan seem to be doing well against Jeon/Lee. That young Malaysian pair is going to become really good in a few years time.
Lets hope so and that they don't flop so much.....

[jkusmanto]

Zhang Ning lost in 2nd set :eek:

[andymcg]

Eriksen & Lundgaard finally take the first set 17-15

[whizkelv]

Just for your info, the 2 Malaysians graduated from the same batch as KKK.
In fact, Ong was KKK's partner in junior level.

[Mag]

Logic prevailed and Jens/Martin took 1st 17-15. Uncomfortably close!

Bach/Gunawan lead 11-10 over Candra/Sigit... very close so far!

[candra W]

candra/sigit 11-10 behind! comeee on candra

[whizkelv]

Go Tony!! Knock off your former compatriots!! :D

[FEND.]

Logic prevailed and Jens/Martin took 1st 17-15. Uncomfortably close!

Bach/Gunawan lead 11-10 over Candra/Sigit... very close so far!
I think some of us are gonna lose sleep over this ;). Unfortunately for me I have an English test tomorrow and I need to be in top form to answer questions!!!

[candra W]

13-13 candra-sigit vs tony and his partner

[happy go lucky]

Go Malaysia's young guns:D This is great man:) Bring on the Danes:rolleyes:
I think some of us are gonna lose sleep over this ;). Unfortunately for me I have an English test tomorrow and I need to be in top form to answer questions!!!

[candra W]

yea,

candra won 15-13, come make less tension in the 2nd

[coops241180]

15 - 13 to candra and sigit :( come on tony!!!

archer and clark making things looking easy - taking the first game to 3!

[seven]

15-13 in the first game for Candra/Sigit...

[candra W]

lee young dae must be really good,

and dont forget he is still junior, he lost in the final of the world jnior championchips recently

next kim dong moon comming up??

[seven]

lee young dae must be really good,

and dont forget he is still junior, he lost in the final of the world jnior championchips recently

next kim dong moon comming up??
Well, they already have Lee Jae Jin as the new star for the moment... how many doubles stars is Korea going to produce!?! :eek:

About Archer/Clark, they won surprisingly easily in the first game, the second game might be quite different!...

[whizkelv]

Tan/Ong won 15-9, 15-9

[Mag]

Score stuck at Jens/Martin: 17-15, 14-4.
1st game took 45 minutes, 2nd took 15!

[andymcg]

14-12 to Candra/Sigit. Howard/Tony have made a big comeback in the second set.

[Mag]

REALLY close between Tony/Howard and Candra/Sigit!
15-13, 15-12 for Candra/Sigit.

[whizkelv]

Hmm... Wong/Chin supposed to play the Korean pair at 14.10
It's well past schedule now :mad:

[seven]

About Archer/Clark, they won surprisingly easily in the first game, the second game might be quite different!...
15-10 for Logosz/Mateusiak in the second game, that's more like it!

[andymcg]

Also Archer and Clark lost the second set 15-10 after an easy 15-3 win in the first.

[seven]

Hmm... Wong/Chin supposed to play the Korean pair at 14.10
It's well past schedule now :mad:
Wong/Chin won by walkover actually!

[whizkelv]

Wong/Chin won by walkover actually!

What happened to the Koreans?

[andymcg]

Archer & Clark now 7-1 down in the decider.

[whizkelv]

Now, waiting for the 2nd Malaysian WD pair, currently ranked 30th in world..
Scheduled to play NZ pair in court 3.
Hope to see them win and get a chance for free badminton lesson from current world no 1 in the next round!

[coops241180]

Also Archer and Clark lost the second set 15-10 after an easy 15-3 win in the first.yeah - this is more what i expected too.

ouch...

looks like the poles woke up - kicked archer and clarke 15-1 in the last game..

[seven]

Archer & Clark now 7-1 down in the decider.
9-1 now, seems like Logosz/Mateusiak have woken up!! :p

[andymcg]

12-1 now!! Long way back from there.

[seven]

9-1 now, seems like Logosz/Mateusiak have woken up!! :p
13-1 ..........................................

[whizkelv]

Hahaha... Surprise to see the English pair losing out on neutral ground and at the hands of "unbiased" judge/linesmen!

[Neil Nicholls]

neutral ground and at the hands of "unbiased" judge/linesmen!
do I detect some bitterness here?

[seven]

Hahaha... Surprise to see the English pair losing out on neutral ground and at the hands of "unbiased" judge/linesmen!
Well, they weren't the favourites in this match... :rolleyes:

Jung/Lee vs Hadiyanto/Yulianto has started and the Koreans are already leading 10-3 !!! :eek:

[whizkelv]

do I detect some bitterness here?

Yeah, that's the declaration from top British XD pair. ;)

[seven]

do I detect some bitterness here?
It's quite understandable though it's Robertson and Emms who are supposed to have had these words... (not Archer/Clark)

[andymcg]

Unbiased line calls at the All England? I don't think so!

I've seen some shockers when I've been there, quite often in favour of Simon Archer :eek:

[happy go lucky]

Neil, what is the time in uk now?
do I detect some bitterness here?

[Mag]

It's 3:20 PM there.

[whizkelv]

Unbiased line calls at the All England? I don't think so!

I've seen some shockers when I've been there, quite often in favour of Simon Archer :eek:

And certainly we remember a great AE umpire called "Jane Hancock" :eek:

[other]

It's 3:20 PM there. 3.25 now:p:p
hehe...sorry

[whizkelv]

Wow... the fast-rising young Korean pair shocked Alven/Luluk 15-10 in the 1st set!

[coops241180]

i wouldn't really say it was so much bias as blindness.
what you have to take into account with linejudges in england is that they give their time for free and in copious amounts. There aren't many of them so they usually get very little rest, having to concentrate through that many games really does take it's toll on your eyes and your mind.

I'm sure all the line judges at the all england just say what see. even if what they see isn't always right...

don't knock 'em down guys, if you live in the uk and you've got the time you should be volunteering to do it.

oh a lighter now - Luluk and Alven lost the first set!!!!!

[whizkelv]

Ok, I understand your point.
But don't you think Nathan/Gail's remarks are pretty lame? :rolleyes:

[seven]

oh a lighter now - Luluk and Alven lost the first set!!!!!
They had a very bad start!
They seem to have started the second game on better basis with a 4-1 lead for the moment...

[andymcg]

I know how difficult it can be, I did some line judging at the European Juniors in Glasgow in 1999. It was good to get in free, but I spent most of the time praying the shuttle wouldn't come near my line! I imagine its even harder at this level. But some of the calls I've seen stick in my mind for being quite obvious ones.

I love it on the sky coverage when there's a dodgy call - Gill Clark always just says something like "Well now"!

[Neil Nicholls]

Unbiased line calls at the All England? I don't think so!

I've seen some shockers when I've been there, quite often in favour of Simon Archer :eek:

I saw a few myself yesterday:

Geoff Bellingham was quite unhappy with a few calls in his match against Aamir Ghaffar, but they were baselilne calls and I couldn't tell whether they were in or out from where I was.

It looked to me like Lee Hyun Il had a shuttle called in that was clearly out against Xia,
[edit - the shuttle was landing on Lee's side of the court]
and something similar in Wong Choong Hann's match.

But I couldn't say whether the calls were biased or mistakes.

[jkusmanto]

I hope that Alven/Luluk will take the 2nd and the 3rd set. They lead 8-3 now.
Eriksen/Lundgaard also had a bad start in they 1st set.


They had a very bad start!
They seem to have started the second game on better basis with a 4-1 lead for the moment...

[seven]

Ok, I understand your point.
But don't you think Nathan/Gail's remarks are pretty lame? :rolleyes:
If they really had these words, I find this shows very poor fair-play...
But it is possible that the journalists made this up...

[Neil Nicholls]

And certainly we remember a great AE umpire called "Jane Hancock" :eek:
now I thought we'd cleared that up. The serve was good, the umpires decision was correct, the yellow card probably not, and Lee/Choong need to develop a positive mental attitude :p
[and before the mods jump in, there's some other threads that this discussion should be continued in rathewr than this one]


But don't you think Nathan/Gail's remarks are pretty lame?

dunno, what did they say. I haven't heard.

[whizkelv]

dunno, what did they say. I haven't heard.

Forget it. But other BF'ers knew it.

[seven]

I hope that Alven/Luluk will take the 2nd and the 3rd set. They lead 8-3 now.
Eriksen/Lundgaard also had a bad start in they 1st set.
The Koreans are fiercer opponents than the english pair though, so it won't be as easy...

Anyway, 10-6 for Luluk/Alven in the second game now...

[seven]

the umpires decision was correct
I don't agree on this one, but as you said this has already been discussed in another thread.

13-6 for Luluk/Alven!

[andymcg]

15-6 for Luluk/Alven

[seven]

Time to post it's 15-6 already! :p

[whizkelv]

Luluk/Alven took the 2nd set.
Lets hope that the Korean will come back stronger in the 3rd set. :)

[jkusmanto]

6-0 for Alven/Luluk in 3rd set.

[seven]

6-0 for Luluk/Alven in the third game... they seem to have found the korean weakness...

[jkusmanto]

If Alven/Luluk win, they will face their senior Candra/Sigit.

6-0 for Luluk/Alven in the third game... they seem to have found the korean weakness...

[coops241180]

daft question, and not to knock the lasses, but.. how can jo wright and ella trip be seeded 8th for this tournament - and donna and gail unseeded. gail and donna are by far a stronger pair.

jo and ella are already on the way out - lost the first set to the chinese pair.. 15-9

[seven]

Luluk/Alven now leading 10-3 in the decider...

[jkusmanto]

It seems that they stag at 10-3. :D

[hcyong]

daft question, and not to knock the lasses, but.. how can jo wright and ella trip be seeded 8th for this tournament - and donna and gail unseeded. gail and donna are by far a stronger pair.

jo and ella are already on the way out - lost the first set to the chinese pair.. 15-9

Yes, I agree. It is a daft question :) The seedings are based on rankings, and Wright/Tripp are simply ranked higher. If the seedings were based on current strength, Du/Yu would definitely have been seeded (something like 4th or 5th).

[jkusmanto]

Alven/Luluk took the 3rd set with 15-3.

[seven]

daft question, and not to knock the lasses, but.. how can jo wright and ella trip be seeded 8th for this tournament - and donna and gail unseeded. gail and donna are by far a stronger pair.

jo and ella are already on the way out - lost the first set to the chinese pair.. 15-9
They are world number 8 whereas Emms/Kellogg are number 11...
It's as simple as that! ;)

[seven]

15-11 5-7 for Han Sang-Hoon/Hwang Ji-Man against Chan Chong Ming and Koo Kien Keat

[roby2003]

Gotta feeling 2 Malaysian MD pairs will be knocked out today.

[seven]

Korean victory : 15-11 9-15 15-11!

[kwun]

Cai/Fu are 7-1 against Chew/Choong in the first set.

[roby2003]

1 down, 1 to go.
Choong/Chew behind 2-7 to Cai/Fu.

[ckloo]

:crying: The Chinese pair seems like having a good start of the game.Hope Chew/Choong can give a good fight.

[seven]

Gotta feeling 2 Malaysian MD pairs will be knocked out today.
Yep, Chew/Choong seem to be having a difficult start against Cai/Fu.
7-2 for the Chinese...

Lee WW come back!!! :o

[ckloo]

Its 9-3 now to the Chinese pair

[ckloo]

Yep, Chew/Choong seem to be having a difficult start against Cai/Fu.
7-2 for the Chinese...

Lee WW come back!!! :o
Ya!Lee WW:mad: must be feeling very desperate to come back now :D

[ckloo]

Oops 13-4 already.Oh God,please dun let Msia without a pair after just finishing the 2nd Round:rolleyes:

[roby2003]

take heart. ONG/TAN are still around :)

[chicteenager]

Malaysian pairs have not been doing well for these few years..i hope kim hock could do something about this..way to go..

[ckloo]

take heart. ONG/TAN are still around :)
Sigh...Chew/Choong are half gone.Hope they can make a come back in 2nd game

[chicteenager]

come on chew/choong...you guys can still make it..

[happy go lucky]

Blame it on Chan Choon Ming and Chew Choon Eng:o Otherwise Choon Tan Fook and Lee Wan Wah can afford to retire:( Hopefully, KKK, ong and tan and reigning world junior champs can take over the seniors:D
Malaysian pairs have not been doing well for these few years..i hope kim hock could do something about this..way to go..

[chicteenager]

chew/choong lost..8-15, 7-15..just too bad..only one pair left for the malaysians...

[happy go lucky]

choong and chew got barbequed,then roasted, steamed and then fried. Boy, i must be hungry:D
chew/choong lost..8-15, 7-15..just too bad..only one pair left for the malaysians...

[jkusmanto]

Can Mia beat Gong like SM in Olympic ?
Mia took 1st set and lead 7-5 in the 2nd set.

[kwun]

Can Mia beat Gong like SM in Olympic ?
Mia took 1st set and lead 7-5 in the 2nd set.
sense tells me that Mia will win this one. Gong hasn't been in very good form in the past year.

Hirose is 4-4 against Yao Jie in the 1st set. i wonder if she can continue her run in the AE.

[cooler]

Can Mia beat Gong like SM in Olympic ?
Mia took 1st set and lead 7-5 in the 2nd set.

i thot mia did beat gong R. at Athen Olympic.

I think mia could beat zhang ning if mia didn't poop out
midway of 2nd set.(at Athen)

[kwun]

it's already over. Mia beat GongRN 11-7 / 11-5

Kaori Mori is on her way to another victory against Hwang Hye-Youn 11-8 / 8-11 / 7-1 right now.

[other]

mia has just won:)

[jkusmanto]

Mia did it again. She beat Gong : 11-7, 11-5.

[jkusmanto]

I Think Kaori Mori can beat Hwang Hye-Youn.
Also Hirose is leading Yao Jie.
Only Hirayama is not good.

[other]

the japanese girls are kicking ass....well..doing pretty well anyway:)
mm...the next uber cup in japan should be exciting:cool:

[jkusmanto]

Kaori Mori beat Hwang Hye-Youn.
Hirose took the 1st set and lead 3-2.

It is something to do with the come of Park Joo Bong, I think.

[kwun]

Hirose took care of Yao Jie in straight games 11-4 / 11-3.

Hirayama maybe good, but when coming against the mighty Xie who has won 5 consecutive tourneys so far, it is just like a brick wall.

[kwun]

what's with Zhang Ning today? lost a game against a no namer in the morning, now she is being stretched by Wong Mew Choo 11-7 / 10-10.

[jkusmanto]

Wong lead 11-10.

[jkusmanto]

Zhang win with 11-7, 13-12.

[Gade supporter]

Gade up 5-3 and Lee leading 6-2...

[Go Gade]

Whats wrong with the live score? can't get in!?!

[candra W]

whats wrong with live score?? it doesnt change anymore

[Mr. HafizDK]

OMG... Gade - Roslin 14 -16... Roslin was uop with 13-11. Gade was in front with 14-13.... but NO... 15-16

[Mr. HafizDK]

Ohh some S*** - Gade lost the second game 17-15... Its gonna be a looong match...:crying:

[Gade supporter]

Gade is down 5-1 :crying:

[Gade supporter]

it is now 5-2.come on Peter

[Gade supporter]

5-4....he's gaining points

[Gade supporter]

7-4....come on Peter

[Gade supporter]

8-4.......damn this is not good.....

[Brave_Turtle]

WoWw Gade losing against Roslin?

[kwun]

Gade doesn't play well when he is trailing. unfortunately. and Roslin is probably the worse person to be facing if one is nervous.

[Gade supporter]

6-8 come on Gade

[kwun]

let's hope Gade picks up second wind and regain control of the game

[Gade supporter]

Great time for the live score to go down.....

[Go Gade]

Great time for the live score to go down.....Does anyone know what the score is?

[Brave_Turtle]

Does anyone know what the score is?

Yeah please someoen keep us update, im starting to bite all my nails

[kwun]

roslin leading 11-9!!

[kwun]

and then Alven/Luluk bt Candra/Sigit 17-14 / 15-2

[Gade supporter]

Kwun please keep updating

[Brave_Turtle]

This is no good... Im sure Gade is runnign out of stamina

[kwun]

Hafiz lost to Shoji Sato 2-15 / 12-15
LeeCW bt Kuan Beng Hong 15-12 / 15-3
Xu Huawei bt Zhou Mi 11-6 / 11-4 !!!
Seo Yoon-Hee bt Wang Chen 5-11 / 11-5 / 11-9 :eek:

[kwun]

stuck again. score still stuck at 11-9

with so many upsets today!

[Pingo]

wow Shoji Sato is awesome!

[Go Gade]

Hafiz lost to Shoji Sato 2-15 / 12-15
LeeCW bt Kuan Beng Hong 15-12 / 15-3
Xu Huawei bt Zhou Mi 11-6 / 11-4 !!!
Seo Yoon-Hee bt Wang Chen 5-11 / 11-5 / 11-9 :eek:What about gades match...? please update!

[economet]

Gong Ruina who lost to Mia Audina, Zhou Mi, and even Zhang Ning were not in a good shape at the German Open. My impression was that they just started to train again.

[madbad]

What about gades match...? please update!
12-10 roslin, live scores stuck again

[kwun]

What about gades match...? please update!
stuck.

it gotta be over by now...

[kwun]

12-10 roslin, live scores stuck again
everybody stop trying to reload.

we have 90ppl in BC. if all of us stop reloading, maybe the server will show some scores again.

what a crappy server they are running. BC is still rock solid... :D

[SteveStanley]

and then Alven/Luluk bt Candra/Sigit 17-14 / 15-2
Is this true, so they played two matches per day?

[madbad]

stuck.

it gotta be over by now...
stuck?... must be overloaded to the max. Has to to be tons of people "tuning" in.

[Pingo]

This thread is getting so huge. How about separate threads for MS, WS, MD etc tommorrow?

[SteveStanley]

Peter Gade lost to Roslin Hashim 15-9, 15-17, 12-15 ... bad luck for Gade

[Gade supporter]

Gade lost 15-12 :crying: :crying:

[kwun]

Gade lost 15-12 :crying: :crying:
upset seems to be the theme for today...

[Go Gade]

upset seems to be the theme for today...How long was the match?

[SteveStanley]

114 minutes ... almost 2 hours!
How long was the match?

[economet]

http://www.horizon-sport.com/cli/bae/graphics/malaysia.gif 14* Muhammad Roslin HASHIM </FONT> </FONT>9-15, 17-15, 15-12 {118m} </FONT>

[kwun]

the server is now up and flowing again.

i bet all the load comes from BC. now the score was announced, everybody stops loading the page.

other results:

Chen Hong bt. Shon Seung Mo 15-8 / 15-3

[madbad]

the server is now up and flowing again.

i bet all the load comes from BC. now the score was announced, everybody stops loading the page.

other results:

Chen Hong bt. Shon Seung Mo 15-8 / 15-3
surprised how (relatively) easily Bao, Chen and Sato won their matches

[ctjcad]

..:D:D.......i was laughing after reading this, the tone of this post is so funny..the server administator at 'Horizonw' must be surprise to see so many people logging in at the same time...he might go out tomorrow and upgrade his server, if not, by SF or Finals day the server might crash..:).


everybody stop trying to reload.

we have 90ppl in BC. if all of us stop reloading, maybe the server will show some scores again.

what a crappy server they are running. BC is still rock solid... :D

[cooler]

the server is now up and flowing again.

i bet all the load comes from BC. now the score was announced, everybody stops loading the page.

other results:

Chen Hong bt. Shon Seung Mo 15-8 / 15-3

LOL, kwun is directing/controlling traffic of baofe site :D
we're bad...

[Go Gade]

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

[FEND.]

Peter Gade lost to Roslin Hashim 15-9, 15-17, 12-15 ... bad luck for Gade Pfft. Remember what I said about roslin.... damn lol.

It seems that M'sia is excelling in unexpected draws (Roslin :mad:) and failing at expected draws!! (Mens doubles :mad:) LOL. This is funny.

[jamesd20]

the server is now up and flowing again.

i bet all the load comes from BC. now the score was announced, everybody stops loading the page.




BF RULES!!!!



Intresting results today. I hope someone clever and with some time can work out what the quarter finals can be. I think the MS will be intresting (as always), but XD is wide open. Maybe Robertson/emms can do it (Although to be honest I hope not) Is widianto/lilyana still in XD?

[Go Gade]

Does anyone know whats the score between jens/martin and the malaysians?

[jamesd20]

Does anyone know whats the score between jens/martin and the malaysians?

I get DEN leading 15-6 1-0


Laybourn/steffensen out to mogensen/Boe

Laybourn can focus on the mixed title!

[bluejeff]

I just don't know what to say, this is not what I expected for Gade :(

[Go Gade]

I get DEN leading 15-6 1-0


Laybourn/steffensen out to mogensen/Boe

Laybourn can focus on the mixed title!yesss... jens and martin won 15-6 15-3! and jonas/lars are leading 15-4 2-0!

[FEND.]

For you guys,

ONG/TAN lost 15 - 6 / 15 - 3 to jens / martin.

Some other noticeable ones. Sang / Zheng beat Han / Hwan 15-9 / 15-11

WD, Yang / Zhang beat Mooi/ Ooi of MAS 15 - 2 / 15 - 0.

This is still funny though!!

[FEND.]

I just don't know what to say, this is not what I expected for Gade :(
It should be this is not what I expected of Roslin.:eek:

[jamesd20]

So for QF 2mo i got so far:

MS:

Lin/gahffar Vs lee hyun il
WCH Vs Sato
Bao VS Chen
Roslin VS LCW


WS:

ZN Vs Jun jae jun
Xu Haiwen Vs eriko hirose
Seo yoon hee Vs XXF
Mia Vs Gong


My brain got lost in the lists then, so I couldnt work out MD/WD/XD please correct any mistake. I finally get to see LCW play now. hopefully Roslin will let hiim play his strokes. I would like to see him win and see him play against an attacker (eg. Bao/Chen in the SF too.)

My predictions for SF are:

Lin Vs WCH

Bao Vs LCW

=>Bao to meet lin in final please be Bao wins, I like him and want him to overcome his nerves.

ZN Vs Hirose

XXF Vs Mia

=> ZN Vs Mia final I like them both, i hope it is a draw!!!!!

[cooler]

I just don't know what to say, this is not what I expected for Gade :(

hiring li mao is paying off dividends so 'quick' although he did emphasized 'speed'. :p

[Mantap]

Come on you guys, give Roslin a break. He is not that bad after all. :p

[FEND.]

Come on you guys, give Roslin a break. He is not that bad after all. :p
He is the most unexpected person in badminton. We'd all think he lose and he goes and win the match instead. We expect him to win and he crashes and burns.

[Mantap]

hiring li mao is paying off dividends so 'quick' although he did emphasized 'speed'. :p
As far as I know, Roslin is not under Li Mao's charge;)

[FEND.]

As far as I know, Roslin is not under Li Mao's charge;)
Either way results did come fast!!! Be it from either charge ;)

[jamesd20]

I think you call it the honeymoon period, and it works three ways. 1.The players want to work hard for their new coach so they will like them, and pick them 2.The new input/different methods of training can freshen up the player and further motivate him. 3. The coach wants to show the players he can help them, so gives them a feel good factor.

In this case malaysia have No.4 as they have two coaches competing, so further enhancing motivation (of both coach and players)

[Neil Nicholls]

Peter Gade lost to Roslin Hashim 15-9, 15-17, 12-15 ... bad luck for Gade
What happened?
Did Mag go out for food again? :p

[jamesd20]

Anyone got any new updates? my score has reverted back to gade still in with a chance at 13-11!


Is lin on court?
Have Cai/fu beaten blair/robertson?

[chicteenager]

Haha...Gade lost..i guess he has to accept the fact that he's not fit enough anymore...sorry dude..better luck next time..u need lots of them

[jamesd20]

I got some now. Lin a game up, 7-7 in second.

Singapore WD 10-0 up on olsen/scholdager!!!

Any MD news anyone, the upcoming matche shave disapeared from my screen.

[dvajah]

ghaffar up 11-8 in 2nd set:confused:

[FEND.]

For your info JR / LP beat the thai pair 15- 4 / 15 - 5

[other]

the updates are getting confused....i end up refreshing several times to get the current results

lin dan wrapped it up 4 and 11

fu and cai are playing now 1-0 up in first set

wei and zhao looking to finish the second game 12-4 now

hian limpele 8-7 gordon shirley first set

jiang li 15-4 olsen schjoldager first set

[dvajah]

updates

jiang/li up one set and 13-5 vs 6th seed olsen/schjoldager

hian/limpele up one set 7-7 in 2nd set vs gordon/shirley

cai/fu down 4-8 in first set to blair/robertson

[hcyong]

=> ZN Vs Mia final I like them both, i hope it is a draw!!!!!

Sit down jamesd20 ... let me explain to you the difference between badminton and football.

[other]

cai fu one set down and 3-2 up in second to blair and robertson

===========

9-2 up now

========

15-4 second game to fu cai

[other]

Sit down jamesd20 ... let me explain to you the difference between badminton and football. they could both get cramp during the rally, and be unable to carry on playing:)
obviously the cramp only lasts for about a day, and they are both fine after that:p

[other]

fu cai 7-4 blair robertson rubber set

[cooler]

As far as I know, Roslin is not under Li Mao's charge;)

then misbun had learned something from li mao too :p

[rwchen]

Any latest update between the match of Fu/Cai and Blair/Robertson

fu cai 7-4 blair robertson rubber set

[xofrevlis]

Fu/Cai 14-11 up now

[ants]

I may be late about this...but Shoji Sato is really on fire...

Currently Roslin is leading Gade 13 - 11 3rd set

Cai/Fu Leading Blair/Robertson 14-11.. its seems they are going to win this match.

[xofrevlis]

Brits pull one back to 12-14

[ants]

Peter Gade lost to Roslin Hashim!

[xofrevlis]

Fu/Cai prevail 15-12

[rwchen]

Cai/Fu won finally in the rubber set, 15-12, a hard fought win indeed.