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pandee720
03-10-2005, 01:52 AM
i was playing mixed today and i hit a girl TWICE in the face... it was like a total accident but she was PISSED!! maybe it's because my partner and i were like having fun and laughing from time to time and she was serious... and they still lost... but still, would you (girl) get mad at the guy opponent if he hits you in the face multiple times? the guys will say that you're supposed to do that but even knowing that, would you (girl) think that the guy meant to hit you if he hits you multiple times? even if he says sorry? (although i was kinda having fun and i sorta smiled to my partner after i said sorry... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/frown.gif)

other
03-10-2005, 02:09 AM
i was playing mixed today and i hit a girl TWICE in the face... it was like a total accident but she was PISSED!! maybe it's because my partner and i were like having fun and laughing from time to time and she was serious... and they still lost... but still, would you (girl) get mad at the guy opponent if he hits you in the face multiple times? the guys will say that you're supposed to do that but even knowing that, would you (girl) think that the guy meant to hit you if he hits you multiple times? even if he says sorry? (although i was kinda having fun and i sorta smiled to my partner after i said sorry... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/frown.gif) did u mean to?:cool:

FEND.
03-10-2005, 02:57 AM
Just becareful thou, you might hurt peoples feelings and stuff and not realise it. Plus accidents could've happened....

jingo
03-10-2005, 03:27 AM
Just becareful thou, you might hurt peoples feelings and stuff and not realise it. Plus accidents could've happened....

I agree with you FEND. But there are girls which I played with and I hit her twice! :eek: during service return and she never complained about it, all she said is it's part of the game (Pretty tough girl!). So, I think it depends on the player itself how she look on to the game. But there is also some girls who see it differently and silently or explosively get mad at you. :crying: :D

cappy75
03-10-2005, 04:01 AM
If it's casual games, do your opponents a favor and play seriously. I find that fun games can be had either everybody goof off or play competitively. Condition being that everybody is of the same mood. I am sure there are many ways to kill off a BBQ netshot, aiming away from your opponent would just be as effective:p. This would really be a good time to practice your aiming;).

The only exception would be competitive tournament, you gotta go in with the intent to demolish your opponents in any way you can (within the context of the sport, of course:D ). No mercy in this case!

MarkinJapan
03-10-2005, 05:03 AM
I don't think i've ever hit a girl twice in the face in one game....yikes.
If you are able to hit someone consistantly
A. they arn't very good so back off a bit.
Or B. It's their/their partners fault for setting you up.

At a tournament a while back i was playing mixed and made a poor lift as a result my partner got it right in the mouth. She had a nice swollen lip. I'm sure she blamed me more than the guy that hit her.

Trickster
03-10-2005, 06:47 AM
Funny but just the other week I was playing a league match and due to the fact that the female had such a bad serve she got hit 3 times in the body by me. Then after that her partner then did a very weak lift due to the fact she steped back and ducked I caught her on the head. She must have felt like she had a bullseye on her, I did apologise each time.

I do feel sorry for the women playing at the front at times as they have so little time to react to most shots.

watababe
03-10-2005, 06:49 AM
so long as its not intentional, i suppose it's ok. getting hit is a part of the game. girl or boy, doesnt make any difference... personally, i like it when a male opponent (in a mixed double match) plays the match like its all male doubles. i get such a high giving a good defense especially if a smash came from a male opponent.

girl power!

Nanashi
03-10-2005, 06:54 AM
i don't usually play casual mixed doubles...so no experience to draw from there...


there was this one time during competitive mixed doubles that i hit the gurl square in the forehead right off her first serve to me.... i apologized, but since it was competitive, i didn't make a big fuss out of it... fortunately, she didn't either...

FEND.
03-10-2005, 06:57 AM
mmm. Strange enough this topic pops up.

(Might be offtopic)
I'm gonna be playing in the college's 'in-house' tourney tomorrow, swiss style... possibly will go thru about 5 - 6 weeks. The thing is now.. since there are only 10 pairs who signed up (this is only doubles) we could see XD playing vs MD and stuff or even WD vs MD and stuff.

For me, although a few accidents happened when I play XD in Brunei last time, I try and avoid hitting girl as much as I can. It's just me.... I'm gonna practice some etiquette in the games if I play vs XD or WD... as I'm playing MD...

Joanne
03-10-2005, 07:37 AM
Maybe she thought that you kept hitting her on purpose. Lol. Especially if she was the weaker player.

I do have a question. Why is it I only get smashed at when I'm playing mix doubles?? I mean, in singles/doubles my body rarely gets hit by the shuttle. But when I play in mix..

Most likely because girls are usually(I said USUALLY) the weaker ones in mix doubles. If I had the chance to kill the shuttle, I'd aim straight for the girl too!

Then again, getting hit by the shuttle is part of badminton.

frankcent
03-10-2005, 11:46 AM
i was playing mixed today and i hit a girl TWICE in the face... it was like a total accident but she was PISSED!! maybe it's because my partner and i were like having fun and laughing from time to time and she was serious... and they still lost... but still, would you (girl) get mad at the guy opponent if he hits you in the face multiple times? the guys will say that you're supposed to do that but even knowing that, would you (girl) think that the guy meant to hit you if he hits you multiple times? even if he says sorry? (although i was kinda having fun and i sorta smiled to my partner after i said sorry... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/frown.gif)I think its mainly because you were joking around and wasting your opponents' time. you even smiled at your partner after hitting her. no matter whether you did it on purpose or not, your attitude is what pissed the girl. I suggest that you be serious and polite when you play badminton. a game is not just between you and your partner, but your opponents as well. you can have plenty of time joking around and laughing when not playing.

PS: my words may be a little bit harsh. I apologize for that. I just absolutely dislike people who are not serious when playing a game.

Benasp
03-10-2005, 12:47 PM
by personal experience girls always get mad :p

when i smash i say sorry before i hit the other girls it's a bad habit

LazyBuddy
03-10-2005, 01:59 PM
It really depends on the situation, either girls or guys could get mad, but girls seems to be more sensitive sometimes:

1. If it's a competitive game, we might need to fight to death for every single rally. Body hit is part of the game, even though it's might be dangerous. If she got hit on the face, means she did not have her racket up all the time, and/or she and/or her partner has bad defense, with weak lift.

2. If a causal game, and the girl is clearly below ur lvl, I think ur strategy of body hitting is kinda too much. Try to smash down to the corner, or drop, instead of directly hitting ppl in the face.

3. If u really feel sorry, be serious. After all, u hit someone, and to be worst, it's the face (most dangerous). Imagine switching roles, she's much better than u in skill, hitting ur face, and kept laughing at u, how u will feel??? :eek:

15Love
03-10-2005, 03:16 PM
Here is a girl's perspective.. I play a lot of mixed. If it is a serious game..ie tournament, then getting smashed at is part of the game. If it is a fun game, then the opponents should have the good sense not to aim for the face. Most players have enough control to be able to direct the shot elsewhere. If you smile after you hit the girl in the face, then of course she will get pissed off! There is absolutely no occasion that warrants a smirk after hitting an opponent in the face!

cappy75
03-10-2005, 06:40 PM
Probably because you got weak partner who couldn't keep his shot low:D. Also you have less time to back up when your team is on the defensive, it's harder to switch to defence since there's less rotation going on than doubles.

Mixed is a whole different dimension comparing to doubles and singles. Someone once told me that mixed is a combination of speed and control rather than speed and power in doubles. That means the man can't just power his shot when he gets to the shuttle, he gotta really pick a spot so that it'll get past the lady opponent and still stretch/pressure his opposite.

I do have a question. Why is it I only get smashed at when I'm playing mix doubles?? I mean, in singles/doubles my body rarely gets hit by the shuttle. But when I play in mix..

Most likely because girls are usually(I said USUALLY) the weaker ones in mix doubles. If I had the chance to kill the shuttle, I'd aim straight for the girl too!

Then again, getting hit by the shuttle is part of badminton.

LazyBuddy
03-10-2005, 07:54 PM
One more thing, as most of us are just club lvl players, means us and opponents both don't have very good reflex time. Therefore, "face shot" could be a very dangerous attempt, as ppl are easily getting hurt (i.e. don't know to always hold up the racket).

Be extra careful, winning is good, but bloody battle is no fun for anyone. :(

pandee720
03-10-2005, 08:25 PM
ok, first of all, the guy did a semi-clear from the left side of the court. i smashed from the BACK OF THE COURT towards the right as many of us in mixed would probably do since we want to hit away from the guy. the girl was RIGHT BY THE NET IN THE CENTER! of course im not good enough to look down right before i hit to see where everyone's positioned so it was totally unintentional. the smash would have gone to mid-right of the court since the smash wasn't that accurate enough to go all the way to the alley but it was a powerful smash... or so everyone told me... in my opinion, it was miscommunication between the opponents and the girl was too slow to react or she should have ducked lower or should have gotten out of the way at least! i mean... from the back of the court and getting hit in the face means she did SOMETHING wrong right? of course i think her racquet was down and not by her face where it should have been... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/crying.gif

^Tayo^
03-10-2005, 08:51 PM
Girls should wear goggles against power players. I've seen guys wearing them too.

$100 Dreams
03-10-2005, 09:20 PM
:confused: Goggles? Ive seen people wearing glasses tho except in international tournements. I wear glasses too or theres no way i can see the shuttlecock so it gets dangerous if your opponent chooses to hit you on the face. For a girl, it gets embarressing if u get hit too often especially if the other is a guy!

But i think its alright, part of sports ;) if its not to the extend of bleeding :p

cappy75
03-10-2005, 09:21 PM
I think the issue has shift to attitude rather than methods of playing here. In this case, it would be the girl's partner's fault for lifting. Yet, somehow she's still pissed off at you guys:p.

The tendency to back up and duck is very strong. Perhaps if the girl is positioned really close to the net to seek the security of the net. Being on her toes (leaning forward) would make it easier for her to do that.

ok, first of all, the guy did a semi-clear from the left side of the court. i smashed from the BACK OF THE COURT towards the right as many of us in mixed would probably do since we want to hit away from the guy. the girl was RIGHT BY THE NET IN THE CENTER! of course im not good enough to look down right before i hit to see where everyone's positioned so it was totally unintentional. the smash would have gone to mid-right of the court since the smash wasn't that accurate enough to go all the way to the alley but it was a powerful smash... or so everyone told me... in my opinion, it was miscommunication between the opponents and the girl was too slow to react or she should have ducked lower or should have gotten out of the way at least! i mean... from the back of the court and getting hit in the face means she did SOMETHING wrong right? of course i think her racquet was down and not by her face where it should have been... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/crying.gif

pandee720
03-10-2005, 11:31 PM
yea... worst part is, i don't think the guy on the opposing team said sorry to his partner after he lifted...
usually if i lift and my partner almost gets hit, i apologize... hence making it my fault instead of the opposing guy... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/cool.gif

other
03-11-2005, 01:08 AM
RIGHT BY THE NET IN THE CENTER!
mmm...not exactly the best place to stand is it:confused:

Dokkaew
04-01-2005, 02:09 AM
I'm a girl and I get hit all the time..face..head..arms..legs..etc. Once my cheek was black & blue for a week! I don't really care though coz I love the game so much!

^Tayo^
04-01-2005, 09:30 AM
I'm a girl and I get hit all the time..face..head..arms..legs..etc. Once my cheek was black & blue for a week! I don't really care though coz I love the game so much!
That's the spirit Dokkaew!! Don't hate the game for being smashed, hate the player :cool: ... it's supposed to be the other way around.. but you know what I mean.

TheGr8Two
04-01-2005, 09:55 AM
Usually, I don't aim for the head of girl intentionally; what I do is:

-if the short serve is good, I only tap it; if it's high, then I hit it hard, but that can be defended by the man. Or I fake a kill, and do a drop instead.
-if the other side gives lifts, and I choose to smash, I smash straight, which would rarely be down the middle where the women is.

I notice some women prefer to stand quite close to net to kill off anything within their reach(drops, drives, smashes). In those situations, I think they're just asking to be smashed, but then they know when to duck.

SWC_Ant
04-01-2005, 04:43 PM
i dont usually aim for the girl, unless we're playing a competitive match.. then anything goes (within rules) right? :p just be polite and say sorry (and look like you mean it) if you hit someone

my friend who played mixed doubles on our school team.. he told me that the girl ducks really fast, and never gets hit :) and since hes really good he usually returns the smashes easily

splitstep
04-02-2005, 06:17 PM
I used to always hit my frd on the head, but now she learns and doesnt stand so close to the net and hold her racket up when im about to smash.

Live n learn! Its not your fault if she gets hit, its all part of the game.

Its not fun if you dont play at your best, its disrespectful i think.

charzord
04-02-2005, 06:27 PM
I play Mix Doubles for my school, and I have hit so many girls I've lost count. If I manage to hit one in a casual game (with my friends), we laugh about it and shrug it off. In a competition though, there really isn't anythign you can do but just say your really sorry and try not to laugh:o. Competition is never clean and safe, so you cannot expect to win with half hearted smashes, fearing for the other girl. Remember: Alls fair in love and war and badminton.:D

BethuneGuy
04-02-2005, 07:32 PM
In highschool badminton, some people tend to pick on the girl in mixed. When you get to a higher level, the girl can easily drive the smash back to set up the counterattack. I for one, am really guilty of smacking the girls with the birdies. Especially in the intrer-school leagues, where for some reason, they stand right at net to block smashes... The guy is permanently at the back, girl permanently at the front.

SWC_Ant
04-02-2005, 08:36 PM
In highschool badminton, some people tend to pick on the girl in mixed. When you get to a higher level, the girl can easily drive the smash back to set up the counterattack. I for one, am really guilty of smacking the girls with the birdies. Especially in the intrer-school leagues, where for some reason, they stand right at net to block smashes... The guy is permanently at the back, girl permanently at the front.don't feel guilty for smashing at the girls, feel guilty that you didn't win! ;) just apologize afterwards, and it should be okay
yea in highschool mixed doubles tend to stay in front/back permanently, and thats not without reason.. most girls in highschool (note: not all) have weaker clears and drives, etc and its really easy to end up eating a half court clear :rolleyes:
i've seen only a few instances where the mixed doubles play side/side, and thats only when the girl is really good (or the guy is really bad) :)

gkwok
04-02-2005, 09:00 PM
ok, first of all, the guy did a semi-clear from the left side of the court. i smashed from the BACK OF THE COURT towards the right as many of us in mixed would probably do since we want to hit away from the guy. the girl was RIGHT BY THE NET IN THE CENTER! of course im not good enough to look down right before i hit to see where everyone's positioned so it was totally unintentional. the smash would have gone to mid-right of the court since the smash wasn't that accurate enough to go all the way to the alley but it was a powerful smash... or so everyone told me... in my opinion, it was miscommunication between the opponents and the girl was too slow to react or she should have ducked lower or should have gotten out of the way at least! i mean... from the back of the court and getting hit in the face means she did SOMETHING wrong right? of course i think her racquet was down and not by her face where it should have been... http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/images/smilies/crying.gif
The fact is, you did hit the girl. Whether the girl was standing too close to the net, poor lift from her partner, or didn't have her racquet up is a really moot point then.

In a situation like that, I would show my sportsmanship and respect towards my opponents and given them a sincere appology w/o the chuckling or laughing afterwards, even though it may be unrelated.

Pball
04-03-2005, 11:21 PM
Just becareful thou, you might hurt peoples feelings and stuff and not realise it. Plus accidents could've happened....

TOTALLY AGREE...

To 720, be a bit careful.. if you can avoid it (lets say the opposing team's level is far enough from yours that you can place the shuttle instead of smashing, please do... I playing with a guy, he won a speed contest in the states. But he quit playing badminton for 15 YEARS, BECAUSE HE BLINDED A GIRL. So.. if avoidable, please do. Its all fun and just a game until something like that happens. :)

floriina
04-15-2005, 02:13 PM
*coughs*


i'm a girl & i playing mixed doubles. i get hit at least twice in every tournamet, directly in the face. i don't usually show my anger during the game, but i get really pissed afterwards.
but when we have practice and i play against people i know, i will literally pick up the shuttle and smash it at them. it really ticks me off. and the coach told them to do it, so they could pick on me. one time we were playing the boys doubles team and one of the guys smashed it right between my eyes. it hurt really really bad. and my coach was lughing the whole time and told me to 'suck it up'. he did come to see if i was okay though.

Renkinjutsushi
04-15-2005, 02:39 PM
hm.... i would suggest to teach/train the girl to block smashes better. but firstly (when playing XD), you shouldn't lift or clear because that puts your side on the defence. although this is a fairly high caliber of play, but practice/play so that you never/rarely lift or clear, being able to do this allows you to always stay on the offence or driving back and forth. but in addition to this, practice changing from front/back to left/right positions. if you're playing a casual game, use the time to practice changing positions because in a tournament you might not have a natural response to switch to defence. together, both players (girl and guy) should be able to block smashes without getting hit when playing sides. training both players footwork to move fast enough to block smashes is also useful.

(on the side) once when i was playing mixed, the opposing girl was wearing badminton goggles, but the funny thing was that she was soooo good at blocking... her partner is like.... a football player or something.... tall and big.... when rallying before the tournament game, i see them practice smashing and blocking, and surprisingly the girl was able to block almost every single smash (his smashes were both fast/strong and right above the net). dunno why she needed the goggles (in those "one in a million" cases maybe)

BionicKnees
04-19-2005, 06:38 PM
So true that it all depends how competitive the game is. U certainly won't be doing that if it's a friendly game. But just as courtesy no matter if it's a girl or a guy, it's nice to say sorry if you hit them intentionally or accidentally <especially in the face>. In the heat of the moment, anything can happen, so just enjoy the game for what it is.

Pball
04-20-2005, 01:18 AM
*coughs*


i'm a girl & i playing mixed doubles. i get hit at least twice in every tournamet, directly in the face. i don't usually show my anger during the game, but i get really pissed afterwards.
but when we have practice and i play against people i know, i will literally pick up the shuttle and smash it at them. it really ticks me off. and the coach told them to do it, so they could pick on me. one time we were playing the boys doubles team and one of the guys smashed it right between my eyes. it hurt really really bad. and my coach was lughing the whole time and told me to 'suck it up'. he did come to see if i was okay though.

I would really consider changing coaches or team is at all possible. You current coach sounds like a "redneck". Altho, I do understand there is a certain level of "toughness" needed from an athlete, your coach doesn't sound as if he has any respect for you. This is not a good sign. An athlete under a coach, should be considered somewhat as a ward, there should be some respect from both sides too.

my 2 cents.

merlin
04-20-2005, 07:01 PM
In one club game, we were short a female player, so I subbed in and played up front (I'm male). It was scary for me, and I learned a new perspective of mixed doubles.

Therefore, I recommend all the male respondents (to this thread) to reverse roles with their partners for one game, and then reply again.


On another note, a long time ago, I played a competition in which an average player partnered with his girlfriend, who was a beginner. Clearly they were just out trying to do something fun together. I was fiercly competitive in that match (unnecessarily), and I hit her in the eye off her serve (unintentionally of course). I felt horrible, and never forgot the incident.

In retrospect, a person needs to guage the whole match and act accordingly. At a high level, the player who got hit is at fault for setting up such a shot. In low level recreational matches, no one is at fault (accidents). In uneven matches, I feel it is the experienced team who is at fault for not using common sense.

floriina
04-21-2005, 12:25 PM
I would really consider changing coaches or team is at all possible. You current coach sounds like a "redneck". Altho, I do understand there is a certain level of "toughness" needed from an athlete, your coach doesn't sound as if he has any respect for you. This is not a good sign. An athlete under a coach, should be considered somewhat as a ward, there should be some respect from both sides too.

my 2 cents.ahh, no worries. my coach was also my teacher for grade 7 and a part of grade 8. we have this little fight goin on, and we're always sarcastic to each other, but he's really a great coach. =))

LazyBuddy
04-21-2005, 01:46 PM
In one club game, we were short a female player, so I subbed in and played up front (I'm male). It was scary for me, and I learned a new perspective of mixed doubles.

Therefore, I recommend all the male respondents (to this thread) to reverse roles with their partners for one game, and then reply again.


Actually, I am more than willing to take the front role in MXD, if the my female partner wants to stay in the back. ;)