I purchased a Fake MP-100 on Ebay

[grou_mou]

Hi all,

I recently purchase a fake MP-100 on Ebay. I have filled a clam through Paypal but I though you may like to see what the communication with the seller has been. He is listed on Bluejeff's fraudulent seller list, bidyesbid, but I did not see it in time
as of this post I have received no new communication from Tony(bidyesbid)

Hi Tony,

I received the raquet today. That was unbelievably fast shipping. Thank

you. Great job stringing it as well.

I do, however, have some concerns about the raquet's authenticity:

1- The serial # is not etched into the raquet. I have other Yonex raquets,

even another Musclepower, and the serial #'s are etched into the cap just

above the grip. Yonex Canada confirms that the serial # should be etched

into it.

2-The color appears to be off. I was looking at an identical raquet on

Tuesday and it was red. The one you sent me has a slightly orange tinge to

it.

3-The "Ultimum TI+High Modulus Graphite" graphic is "smudged". The U and

the L of Ultimum are unreadable and all you can see is "Timum" with a few

marks in front of the "t". I believe Yonex quality control would have

picked that up prior to shipment.

4-The Yonex name and the "YY" symbol on the cap on top of the grip are not

aligned with the shaft. That is, they are slightly askew.

5-Yonex Japan's site lists available weight/grip size as being:

WEIGHT / GRIP SIZE 3U(85-89g) / G4,5

2U(90-94g) / G3,4,5

http://www.yonex.co.jp/intl/badminton/products/muscle.html

Also, I have not been able to locate a retailer that is offering this raquet

in a grip size lower than G3.

The raquet you sold me is listed as 4U/G2.

What is the "PBSI" graphic?

Your item description states:

You are bidding on Brand New Yonex Muscle Power 100...

Tony, Can you confirm that this raquet is authentic Yonex?

Colin

the reply was:

Hi Colin,



Firstly I'm sorry for made you this misapprehension.



Actually the racket I'm selling is OEM version, also that is why the price just so cheap,but we promise that the items have high quality and good shape and looking good. I think you know that the retail version of Yonex RACKET is 100GBP or more for one item. but you only paid me 47.3GBP( included shipping cost and insurance).I think buy my item is cost-efficient choice.



just explain you the string is authentic yonex products.



if any seller who selling items on ebay same as my price and tell you that the rackets are same as retail version, he(she) 100% is a swindler.because it is mission impossible! ^_^



Sincerely,

Tony

[grou_mou]

Hi Tony,

thanks for your prompt reply. I appreciate it.

What does OEM raquet mean? And why do you not mention that in your

description on Ebay. Is it manufactured by Yonex as your description claims

it to be? keep in mind your description from Ebay reads as follows:

You are bidding on Brand New Yonex Muscle Power 100 unstrung badminton

racket. 100% excellent quality!! This item has never been used and it has an

original plastic wrapped on the handle. The retail price is over 190USD.

Check out my other auctions. I would like to combine shipping if you order

more than one items. We have other rackets in stock, please feel free to ask

for details.

Auction included:

1. Brand New Yonex Muscle Power 100 unstrung badminton racket. We can help

string the racket with Yonex BG-65 string(3.5GBP) or Yonex BG-65Ti

string(4.5GBP). If you buy more than one racket, we will free the

string(BG-65) as a gift.



I know the string is authentic, that was never in question. My point is

that the raquet I have received does not match the description. You

misrepresented the item and you're admitting to it in your reply. I didn't

say I don't like the raquet, 'it's just not what you claim it to be and for

that I believe you should refund my money, $105 Canadian. if you state in

your description that it is an OEM version of a Yonex MusclePower 100 then

there wouldn't be a problem.

I will await your response and then based on your response I will compose my

feedback for the item.

Colin Muise

Reply was:
Hi Colin,



thanks for your reply.



Actually You paid me 47.3GBP for the racket, but I have paid 17.8GBP to DHL for shipping cost, I never wanna charge u money according retail version, If I charged u 100GBP then send you an OEM racket, you can consider I'm a lier. but I only charged u 47.3 - 17.8 = 29.5GBP.



How can you get a retail version racket using 29.5GBP? I think it is common sense.



In order to don't make u unhappy for this matter, there are two solutions for your reference:



1. I'd Like to refund u 8GBP as gift.it is almost all profit for this deal.

2. You could send back the racket then I refund you 29.5GBP when I received the raceket( I have paid 17.8GBP to DHL you know.)



though it is a OEM racket, but I promise you that the racket have high quality, it is very cost-efficient.



looking forward to hearing from u.



Sincerely,

Tony

[grou_mou]

Tony, Tony, Tony...

It doesn't matter that I know you can't get a "real" MP100 for $25GBP. Your

listing clearly states, in plain English that it is authentic. Now you are

saying it is not.

You don't seem to understand that you did not say that the Item is OEM in

the description which apparently is a Chinese word for fake.

I appreciate your offer to refund $8 GPB, sure go right ahead. send it to

grou_mou@hotmail.com.

Bottom line is:

Your item is not authentic Yonex as you claim it to be as per your own

description and you admit to it!!

My feedback will read:

"Fast shipping, great stringing, FAKE RACKET-Item listed as authentic,

actually OEM-Chinese for FAKE, In correspondence Tony admits to lying about

item description."

Feedback will be of course negative and I will report you to eBay for

misrepresenting items and PayPal.

And for the record, I paid 17.8GBP to DHL, not you. I paid for the

shipping.

Good day to you sir,

Colin Muise

His Reply:

Hi Colin,



Please don't angry, I just tell you my opinion, If u ask me if the racket is retail version or not, I 100% will tell you the truth.



any way, I 'd like refund you full money (47.3GBP) even I will lost lots money for this dealing. but you should send me back the racket first.



Actually I will not refund u even 8GBP if you decide to leave me negative feedback.I hope we could leave positive feedback for each other Since I never wanna deceive you once you purchased my racket at the very start.



look forward to hearing from u soon.



Tony,

My reply
Tony,

According to eBay rules, you should have left me positive feedback when I

paid. You have no reason to leave me negative feedback.

Keep in mind you clearly admit to misrepresenting the item on eBay.

If you want the raquet back, I will send it back to you. You must send me

the additional shipping cost. I will accept $17.8GBP on top of the $47.3

GBP that I paid. Return shipping is your responsibility.

So, you agree to send my paypal a/c ,grou_mou@hotmail.com, a total of $65.1

GBP. I agree to send you back the raquet and not leave negative feedback.

I will assure you that I will keep my end of this bargain, all you are

required to do is send the $65.1 GBP to my paypal a/c. grou_mou@hotmail.com

Awaiting your reply,

Colin Muise

[grou_mou]

Tony, Tony, Tony,

Do you know what the word "misrepresented" means? A simple definition reads:

having an intended meaning altered.

the intended meaning as per your description is "brand new Yonex". Look at the subject line of this email. You have now altered the description and told me that it is an OEM raquet. I have no doubt that the raquet is of the finest OEM quality available. That isn't the point. You seem to have trouble understanding what the point is. It is as follows:

YOU SOLD ME SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID WAS AUTHENTIC YONEX AS PER THE ITEM DESCRIPTION ON eBay!!!!!

IT IS NOT AUTHENTIC YONEX, YOU HAVE STATED AS SUCH AND ADMITTED TO LYING IN THE DESCRIPTION!!!

Had you stated that the racket is an OEM in your description, we would not be having this conversation. I would be very happy with the raquet, but because you didn't I'm very upset.

Because of the fact that you misrepresented the item, your arguments are not valid. You have no leg to stand on. Ebay will agree with me.

If you want me to leave feedback right away, I will and you know how it will read.

As per your offer: NO DEAL!!!

You refund my money, I'll even ship it back to you @ my expense. $47.3 GBP to my paypal a/c, grou_mou@hotmail.com

This happens first.

I understand how late it is there. by the time you wake up I will be out of the office. I will be very honest with you. If you don't refund my money by the time I get back in on Monday, March 21. I will:

1-Leave the negative feedback as per my previous Email

2-Report you to Ebay

3-Report you to paypal

4-Report you to Yonex

I do not want to go this route. I know that you want to protect your eBay rating. I hope that you will do the right thing.

Colin Muise

His reply was:
Hi Colin,



According to ebay rules, You should leave me positive feedback too when you received the item .you never asked me before you purchase it! unfortunately you have no common sense for the price of yonex racket.



anyway, I also would like refund you the money, but you should do something first:



1.leave me positive feedback.also I will do it too.

2.send me back the racket, you must promise me that the racket was never used and same as I sent to u.



I think you should not send me the racket with DHL, you could send the item via Canada post, I think the shipping cost will be cheaper more than DHL( around 5 GBP to China),actually you could ask them for tetail.



NO doubt I will lost a lot of money for this dealing if I refund you the money, BUT i must let you know that I NEVER wanna deceive anyone!



time is now 1:00 am , I should go to sleep right now. I will reply you tomorrow

my reply

Tony,

No, I'm not doing that.

If you really hate disputing with me then the solution is simple, refund my money. Send the total amount, $47.8GBP to my hotmail a/c, grou_mou@hotmail.com. You have until end of my day tomorrow. I am giving you a way out of this, please take it.



You haven't shown me your full sincerity yet. If you had, then I'd have all of my money back.

This will be my last contact to you regarding this matter, I leave it all in your hands.

The next people to contact you about this will be eBay, PayPal and/or Yonex.

The choice is yours.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Colin Muise


No further communication from Tony .

[grou_mou]

Apparently my last email piqued his interest. He replied with:

I have said that you should send me back the racket then I will refund you the money, do you understand my meaning?



who can promises that you must refund me the rackets after I refunded you the money? I really don't think you will do it since you Never promise me that you'd like send back the racket.



I will provide all emails to paypal and explain them may u wanna ask me refund you the money and don't wanna send me back the racket.

I replied with:
your replies puzzle me Tony.

I have said that i will send you the racket back once you refund my money. I understand that.

I also understand that, based on your actions, you are not a truthful person,

I understand that you state that you sell things which are you say real.

Now I understand that they are not.

I will not send you the racket unless you refund my money.

I understand your hesitation to refund my money without the racket. I have said that I will do that. I issued payment right away. I issued a second payment as well. you have no reason not to believe me.

It's not like I'm on eBay selling fake Yonex rackets.

Every one who has left positive feedback for you must not know what a real Yonex racket is. I do.

By all means, share our communication. The way that it works is that they will contact you and then they will contact me. I'll share them as well.

[Javalina]

You should report him whether he refund your money or not. We need to fight together with people selling fake racquets on ebay. I am standing behind you. Go after him!!!!

[Neosakai]

Nah, I don't think you should report the fool. Even if you do, what could happen? He's not gonna go to jail or anything. If you leave a negative feedback, he'll just use a new account, or ignore it.

Try making him understand that he did NOT say that the racquet is fake and he DID decieve you. Make him understand that he did something wrong and he should make the first step to the solution.

What's gonna happen if you report him to ebay and paypal? He get a little online record? lol.....

[cappy75]

I wouldn't waste time with the man. You got fooled once already. At this point, I doubt you will get back your money at all, even if you send the racquet back in full faith. You should just move on and use the racquet. Let that be a lesson to you and all BF'ers who read your predicament.

[chickenpoodle]

did you pay via creditcard?

if you're a good customer and client in good standing, give them a call and tell them whats going on.
they might or might not make it their matter.
if they do, they'll refund you on your losses, and deal with the matter themselves.

if not, you're outta luck.

in that case, then like cappy mentioned, make the best of your racquet and be more wary next time in online dealings...

[bigredlemon]

Best case scenario:
you get a chargeback from the credit card company. You get your money back.
credit card company issues charge back to paypal, gets money back.
paypal freezes his account and bank for months to years, gets more than its money back.
seller gets to be one of the many people that gets :eek:ed by paypal.

[the4$]

Best case scenario:
you get a chargeback from the credit card company. You get your money back.
credit card company issues charge back to paypal, gets money back.
paypal freezes his account and bank for months to years, gets more than its money back.
seller gets to be one of the many people that gets :eek:ed by paypal.
moral of da story, dun ever buy online unless u can try the person....try to buy it from a retail shop...etc

[FEND.]

mmm. Can we bring in the russian mafia now??? :rolleyes:

Insist that he refund you FIRST before you go and return the racquet. He's just a small arse punk who tries to play in the big leagues with the big boys....

From his letters, he tries to act professional, and tries (may I emphasis tries) to show professionalism in his work... but instead it doesn't.

"Please don't angry, I just tell you my opinion, If u ask me if the racket is retail version or not, I 100% will tell you the truth..." <-- WTH is that... "Please don't angry" BAH HUMBUG....

Not bothered to point out his grammatical errors now....

Ah well. Go get him!!!!

[Neosakai]

Actually in these cases... There is a possiblity that he speaks fluent english. Probably better than what we can do. But he's doing the crappy ESL just to play with you :D.

From the start he planned on deceiving someone and acting innocent about it. But sure, if you can get the money back, try everyway.

It's YOUR money, do whatever to get it back. If he won't refund the money, find another way :)

[Qidong]

did you pay via creditcard?

if you're a good customer and client in good standing, give them a call and tell them whats going on.
they might or might not make it their matter.
if they do, they'll refund you on your losses, and deal with the matter themselves.

if not, you're outta luck.

in that case, then like cappy mentioned, make the best of your racquet and be more wary next time in online dealings...

That's why I always use American Express when buying from the internet. Most of the time, AX is on the customers' side. That's also one of the reasons a lot of stores don't accept AX.

[Neosakai]

Hmm
One thing, what will happen if you report the Tony Fool to your credit card company or paypal or whatnot? How are they gonna believe you?

You're gonna tell them, that you bought a racquet and he gave you a fake. Without informing you and you got ripped off and stuff.

Now what are they gonna do? 1st they have to really find out if the racquet is fake, who the hell is gonna research about that LOL.
2nd they're gonna see which side they're gonna be on. Yours or Tony's.
3rd.... They will decide if they will even bother being involved in this.

[Qidong]

I doubt if paypal or credit card company will do an investigation. 60 GBP to them is nothing. It's cheaper to refund you the money than investigate the case. My experience with AX is that after I called them, they credited my account right away, and deducted from the seller's account, then they were out of it. After that, it's between the seller and buyer of how to return the product. Unless it happens too often, they won't bother to investigate.

[splitstep]

Looking though ebay, i actually see alot of fake rackets on sale.. i really should msg the bidders n tell them whats going on +_+ i never trusted ebay for rackets anyway.. i think quality comes at a cost :o but yehh... sue him!!!

[unregistered]

tell tony, u want to bluff also can bluff properly or not. So obvious still want to cheat me. FASTER PAY ME BACK OR ELSE..... ... . ...

[FEND.]

tell tony, u want to bluff also can bluff properly or not. So obvious still want to cheat me. FASTER PAY ME BACK OR ELSE..... ... . ...
... the RUSSIAN MAFIA??? Can we call them in now!! pweeessee!!!

Btw, have you reported the guy to ebay yet?

[grou_mou]

I have reported him to Paypal. They're investigating...

This was in my email this morning:
Colin,



If you could promise me that you will must send me back the rackets and the racket are samed as I sent to you , I can refund u money at the very start,OKAY?but I should wait for result of your claim on Paypal right now. thanks.



I still wanna tell you that I NEVER deceive u, because I have complied you that I will refund you money but you should send me back racket first. but you don't wanna do that. In fact Paypal also will ask you send me back racket first even they ask me refund u money.I can provide all emails to paypal to prove I really wanna refund u money before you put the claim.



anyway, 47GBP will not let me rich,I hope that we could resolve this matter smoothly.



I may leave u positive feekback even many things happend,Since I believe you are a honest person. but just trust me 47GBP really could not get a retail yonex racket.



sorry for get u so many trouble.

My apologize,

Tony

To which I replied:
Hi Tony,

Yes, I promise to send it to you. That's what I've been telling you all along. Also If you refund my money I'll drop the claim and you'll never hear from me again, but you have to refund the money first.

Feedback will read: Great communication, great dispute resolution, Received what I paid for, one OEM great quality OEM Yonex racquet.

Is this OK with you?

Colin Muise

To which he replied:
Hi Colin,



Actually if you told me you must send me back the racket, I'd like refund you money before you put the claim on paypal.



now you have put a claim on paypal, and paypal will investigate the case that you mentioned, So I may should waiting for the result of claim.



If you could remove the claim first , I will refund u money within 3-4 days since my account have no enough money right now, just trust I really will do that.if not so, just leave me nagetive feedback, I have no any word to say.



by the way, I hope that feedback don't mention the dispute anymore. it is first time I'm disputing with my client,if possibile I hope you only write Great communication for feedback. also your feedback will read: good communication, fast payment, very friendly, recommend......



I think there is some mistake betwwen us. certainly I should not made my client unhappy. sorry again.



Tony

To which I replied:
see, this is where we get stuck.

I said that in a previous email that I would send you the racquet once you refunded my money. Refund my money, I'll drop the claim and send you the raquet back.

To which he replied:
Hi Colin,



Okay, I trust you, I will refund you money soon when my paypal account have enough money.( some persons we send me money within 3 days)



I was wondering if you could dorp the claim even paypal has no completed the investigating? does paypal website has this function?



Sincerely

Tony

to which I replied:
Hi Tony,

Yes, I can cancel the investigation @ any time. But refund the money first.

i really appreciate the communication we have been having. You have my word

I will cancel and send you the racquet once I receive notification from

paypal.

Colin Muise

He replied with:
Hi Colin,



that's great, I will refund u money soon if my account have enough money. you are a nice person, I'm so happy to meet u on ebay.



If possibile you have a tour to Hongkong in the future, please contact me and let me feast u have chinese food ^_^



cheers,

Tony

So we shall see what happens next week...

[cooler]

Poor fake sellers. Next time, they should first ask or check if the buyers are from BC forum:D Just not worth it for them LOL

Good thing that some of the unfortunate buyers dont know the sellers address or else we would have many more mass killings by some distraughted teenagers :p :D LOL

[wood_22_chuck]

This is a great thread. Thanks for sharing the experience, grou_mou.

That's one creepy fake seller.

-dave

[other]

mm..he could worm his way out of the deceit claim if he did not write authentic/genuine in his item description, and just said "yonex", which is what it said on the racquet....

oh well...another case of someone being too clever, and thinking he knows more than his customers....but also....~£50 for a new MP100? :rolleyes:

[Yogi]

When he pays back the money, Send him the racket but dont withdraw complaint from paypal or for that matter pls report him as fake seller to Ebay. His mail was plain rude. Whether it was due to english not being a native toungue or not, is irrelevant.

He tried to get out of the situation as much as possible rather than just pay up and shut you up by saying " Sorry we shipped a "lookalike" out rather than an Original" This would have ensured he got a feedback and your money back. But he was unwilling to give your money back and wanted to rip you off.

Try to get a Postive Feedback, Money back and then crap on his happiness. I am sure 50 GBP means more to him than to us. So bleed him to death...He does not even have 47 GBP to pay you back and he is running a business... If that does not make him RICHER (as he claims) then whey does it take 3 whole days to pay you.He aint willing to pay you mate. Be ruthless and dont let go (PITBULL attitude)

[Neosakai]

Try to get a Postive Feedback, Money back and then crap on his happiness. I am sure 50 GBP means more to him than to us. So bleed him to death...He does not even have 47 GBP to pay you back and he is running a business...
Yeah!!1:p Poop at him and he might stop running a business from here on lol.

[FEND.]

I have reported him to Paypal. They're investigating...

This was in my email this morning:
Colin,



If you could promise me that you will must send me back the rackets and the racket are samed as I sent to you , I can refund u money at the very start,OKAY?but I should wait for result of your claim on Paypal right now. thanks.



I still wanna tell you that I NEVER deceive u, because I have complied you that I will refund you money but you should send me back racket first. but you don't wanna do that. In fact Paypal also will ask you send me back racket first even they ask me refund u money.I can provide all emails to paypal to prove I really wanna refund u money before you put the claim.



anyway, 47GBP will not let me rich,I hope that we could resolve this matter smoothly.



I may leave u positive feekback even many things happend,Since I believe you are a honest person. but just trust me 47GBP really could not get a retail yonex racket.



sorry for get u so many trouble.

My apologize,

Tony

To which I replied:
Hi Tony,

Yes, I promise to send it to you. That's what I've been telling you all along. Also If you refund my money I'll drop the claim and you'll never hear from me again, but you have to refund the money first.

Feedback will read: Great communication, great dispute resolution, Received what I paid for, one OEM great quality OEM Yonex racquet.

Is this OK with you?

Colin Muise

To which he replied:
Hi Colin,



Actually if you told me you must send me back the racket, I'd like refund you money before you put the claim on paypal.



now you have put a claim on paypal, and paypal will investigate the case that you mentioned, So I may should waiting for the result of claim.



If you could remove the claim first , I will refund u money within 3-4 days since my account have no enough money right now, just trust I really will do that.if not so, just leave me nagetive feedback, I have no any word to say.



by the way, I hope that feedback don't mention the dispute anymore. it is first time I'm disputing with my client,if possibile I hope you only write Great communication for feedback. also your feedback will read: good communication, fast payment, very friendly, recommend......



I think there is some mistake betwwen us. certainly I should not made my client unhappy. sorry again.



Tony

To which I replied:
see, this is where we get stuck.

I said that in a previous email that I would send you the racquet once you refunded my money. Refund my money, I'll drop the claim and send you the raquet back.

To which he replied:
Hi Colin,



Okay, I trust you, I will refund you money soon when my paypal account have enough money.( some persons we send me money within 3 days)



I was wondering if you could dorp the claim even paypal has no completed the investigating? does paypal website has this function?



Sincerely

Tony

to which I replied:
Hi Tony,

Yes, I can cancel the investigation @ any time. But refund the money first.

i really appreciate the communication we have been having. You have my word

I will cancel and send you the racquet once I receive notification from

paypal.

Colin Muise

He replied with:
Hi Colin,



that's great, I will refund u money soon if my account have enough money. you are a nice person, I'm so happy to meet u on ebay.



If possibile you have a tour to Hongkong in the future, please contact me and let me feast u have chinese food ^_^



cheers,

Tony

So we shall see what happens next week...
mmm. DO NOT DROP THE COMPLAINT. GO SCREW HIM EVEN FURTHER. And if I were you, if you do go to HK meet up with Bfers instead of him. Who knows? He might drug you or something....

[grou_mou]

Hi all,

This was in my inbox this morning:

Dear Colin,



I have refunded you money already.

Sorry again for got you this trouble.



cheers,

Tony

Paypal confirms payment has been sent to my credit card but that it may take a few days to post.

My thanks to all who followed and replied. Some of you are quite funny.

Colin :cool:

[Qidong]

>> 47 GBP won't make me rich.

47 GBP = US$87. Someone in this forum already said that a fake one only cost less than US$10. It's a 800% profit margin. :eek:

[grou_mou]

Thinking of leaving feedback for Tony:

Finest quAlity aftermarKet rackEt, oem yonex. Received
whAt I paid for. Communication great, Tony is Kind, great disputE resoluTion.

;)

[Viper2005]

If you really want to get back at Tony, create a useless Ebay ID, go bid on all of Tony's auctions and not pay, bid very high so no one else can buy it. Do it on all fake rackets on Ebay.;)

[FEND.]

If you really want to get back at Tony, create a useless Ebay ID, go bid on all of Tony's auctions and not pay, bid very high so no one else can buy it. Do it on all fake rackets on Ebay.;)
Now now, what have we said on doing these kind of activites...?

[MarkinJapan]

I buy all my rackets from a reputable, local dealer. So when I hear about fake rackets, although I don't like people who lie, I can't sypathize. I'm sure there is a shop in halifax where you can buy a new, authentic mp100.
The shop I buy all my gear from is a little family business. Their prices on rackets is about $20 higher than a shop no more than a 10 minute walk away. I buy my stuff there because of the relationship I have developed as a customer. It's at the point now where they copy VHS games for me, give me free shirts, free printing on the back of my shirts, and are giving me discounts above and beyond sale prices. When something is not available, then I go to other sources. eg. China for ti-10s
I guess my view is stop trying to save a buck or two by undercutting local business, you'll get more out of shopping local.

[bigredlemon]

a fake racquet costs about $20-$30 from China if you buy in bulk, IIRC.

[bluejeff]

If you really want to get back at Tony, create a useless Ebay ID, go bid on all of Tony's auctions and not pay, bid very high so no one else can buy it. Do it on all fake rackets on Ebay.;)
That won't work because eBay will suspend buyers with 3 NPB records. Also, it requires a credit card to register an account, so they can check on your name easily.

[bluejeff]

a fake racquet costs about $20-$30 from China if you buy in bulk, IIRC.
You can get a fake racket from China (through online sites) with $15 USD easily. Fakes are cheap, almost worthless.

[cooler]

BRL and BJ, those prices are still too high ;)

[carlol]

Moral of the story..
1. if its too good to be true, it usually isnt.
2. you get what you pay for

:D

[Viper2005]

Regardless if the racket is real or fake, if you can beat your opponents with it, it's a good racket. Make fun of your opponents that you beat them with a fake Yonex AT-700.....:D

I used a tennis racket to beat my High School students to prove to them that it's not the racket that wins games.

Fake rackets are quite popular for H.S. students, they can't afford the high end stuff, so maybe you can sell/give it to a H.S. student and tell them it is a fake.

[grou_mou]

I buy all my rackets from a reputable, local dealer. So when I hear about fake rackets, although I don't like people who lie, I can't sypathize. I'm sure there is a shop in halifax where you can buy a new, authentic mp100.
The shop I buy all my gear from is a little family business. Their prices on rackets is about $20 higher than a shop no more than a 10 minute walk away. I buy my stuff there because of the relationship I have developed as a customer. It's at the point now where they copy VHS games for me, give me free shirts, free printing on the back of my shirts, and are giving me discounts above and beyond sale prices. When something is not available, then I go to other sources. eg. China for ti-10s
I guess my view is stop trying to save a buck or two by undercutting local business, you'll get more out of shopping local.
Hi Mark,

1-no there isn't. Badminton isn't that popular here. There are no mom and pop shops selling badminton rackets. i'd have to order one in. the price for an armortec-300 is $190 Us Which is a price I'm not paying. It's not about saving a buck or 2, it's about saving one hundred or more $$'s.
I did find a real MP-100 on Ebay for $150.00 US. to buy one here would have been $250 US at least.

2-I didn't post this for your sympathy. I posted it because I caught a dishonest person selling fake goods, and hopefully, by reading this post, people will not purchase them.

[kenneth yick]

well i live in uk. but sunrisesports is a reliable site to buy rackets off. mp 99 for 70 quid. mp 100 for 90 quid. if you buy more then one racket then you get discount. this is the cheapest site ever!!!

[splitstep]

well i live in uk. but sunrisesports is a reliable site to buy rackets off. mp 99 for 70 quid. mp 100 for 90 quid. if you buy more then one racket then you get discount. this is the cheapest site ever!!!

U mean http://www.sunrisesports.net ??

I been there before, it looks like a home page and i wasnt sure to order off it, check how dodgy it looks! The MP99 is 70 quid but you have to pay postage on top of that so i would rather buy it from direct sports with free delevery + gifts. Much more safe =D

[kenneth yick]

well as i always purchase off here or pwp, and theyve always done it right. i cant rely complain lol. ive ordered at500 from pwp and at800, carbonex 9 from sunrisesports. even though they have an annoying habit of covering the serial number with there offical sticker, it is real. ive had them both checked out. but even though sunrise are stupid, they do actually give you your moneys worth. (stupid sticker, took me half an hour to peel it off!!!)

[splitstep]

haha stupid sticker XD.. if i did order it from there and saw them cover the serial number with a stick... i would be thinking... why would they do that?? wot they trying to cover up? :p but if its real, its cool =)




well as i always purchase off here or pwp, and theyve always done it right. i cant rely complain lol. ive ordered at500 from pwp and at800, carbonex 9 from sunrisesports. even though they have an annoying habit of covering the serial number with there offical sticker, it is real. ive had them both checked out. but even though sunrise are stupid, they do actually give you your moneys worth. (stupid sticker, took me half an hour to peel it off!!!)

[kenneth yick]

exactly what i thought first and then i though heh w8 sunrise is a major distributer. and then i brought it to a specalist and he just said sunrise are stupid at placing the stikcer. also i read from 2 people who also had the same thing happen to then with sunrise and they say its authertic. so at the risk of actually getting fake rackets ill say sunrise is stupid....

[splitstep]

But is this the same Sunrise though? I only know of Sunrise distributing yonex goods which are all labeled as SP, even on packets of strings. The website site seems only to be a UK company with the same name and has nothing to do with the Sunrise in asia.




exactly what i thought first and then i though heh w8 sunrise is a major distributer. and then i brought it to a specalist and he just said sunrise are stupid at placing the stikcer. also i read from 2 people who also had the same thing happen to then with sunrise and they say its authertic. so at the risk of actually getting fake rackets ill say sunrise is stupid....

[allanh]

Thinking of leaving feedback for Tony:

Finest quAlity aftermarKet rackEt, oem yonex. Received
whAt I paid for. Communication great, Tony is Kind, great disputE resoluTion.

;)

i'm lovin your secret message!

[RiceBaiiKhao]

LOL FAKE RACKET AHAHA TOO STRONG !!


Finest quAlity aftermarKet rackEt, oem yonex. Received
whAt I paid for. Communication great, Tony is Kind, great disputE resoluTion.

[grou_mou]

Finally!! It took a couple of Canadians to see it. And of course I didn't send the fake racket back. Screw Him!!

[yoyomonkey]

That won't work because eBay will suspend buyers with 3 NPB records. Also, it requires a credit card to register an account, so they can check on your name easily.

no, you need credit card for seller account. not buyer(last time i check), i have like 5. It's quite easy to register a fake account.