View Full Version : Who should represent Malaysia in MS event?
whizkelv 03-24-2005, 07:34 AM In the latest world ranking issued today, there are 6 Malaysian men singles players ranked in the top 24, namely:
Lee Chong Wei (#6)
Wong Choong Hann (#7)
Hafiz Hashim (#9)
Roslin Hashim (#20)
Sairul Amar Ayob (#22)
Kuan Beng Hong (#23)
So, Malaysia is almost certain to be eligible for sending 3 MS entries.
Question: Which 3 players should BAM send to Anaheim?
Hmm.... Where is the poll option?? :confused: :rolleyes: :mad:
fanatico 03-24-2005, 07:39 AM definitely the top 3 ranked players.
seven 03-24-2005, 10:39 AM Judging on current form : LeeCW, WongCH and Hafiz!
Though Roslin as a "Gade killer" could also be quite useful to the squad! :p
Another solution is for the four of them to be in the top 8... rather difficult though... :rolleyes:
Kuan Beng Hong and Sairul Amar Ayob will probably have to wait for their turn... (unless they perform incredibly well in the spring GP events)
jamesd20 03-24-2005, 11:39 AM Poll added.
The first two are obvious (LCW + WCH), but the third is difficult. SAA+ KBH are unproven at that level, so their selections look unlikely at the moment.
Roslin is more consistent, but if they are looking for a winner then I wouldnt think roslin is the man. I go for Hafiz, but I don't know when the choice has to be made by(Seven?).
seven 03-24-2005, 12:40 PM I go for Hafiz, but I don't know when the choice has to be made by(Seven?).
I don't know either actually... :o sorry! :(
jamesd20 03-24-2005, 01:06 PM I don't know either actually... :o sorry! :(
tut tut! Letting the team down!!! j/k, just thought you might :)
aiyuuw 03-24-2005, 05:03 PM hafiz is leading by far, i voted for him toohttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
FEND. 03-24-2005, 10:07 PM Judging on current form : LeeCW, WongCH and Hafiz!
Though Roslin as a "Gade killer" could also be quite useful to the squad! :p
Another solution is for the four of them to be in the top 8... rather difficult though... :rolleyes:
Kuan Beng Hong and Sairul Amar Ayob will probably have to wait for their turn... (unless they perform incredibly well in the spring GP events)
mmm. If they include roslin in the lineup just for the sake to kill Gade, what if by chance the Danish put in kenneth there and roslin is hosed....
wchfan 03-25-2005, 02:47 AM hehe.. i voted for lee chong wei, wong choon hann and.... herm hafiz.. im impressed with choon hann lately.. the way he played at the all england.. hehe.. competing lin dan (the world no.1) .. hehe.. choon hann..
a big fan of choon hann... hehe.. thats why..
hcpoirot 03-28-2005, 09:14 AM Malaysia if I am not wrong always send the three top ranking players. And in the current form, Hafiz is better than Hashim.
seven 03-29-2005, 01:45 AM And in the current form, Hafiz is better than Hashim.
I suppose you mean Hafiz is better than Roslin? Since both of them are called Hashim! ;)
cheongsa 03-29-2005, 07:31 AM I suppose you mean Hafiz is better than Roslin? Since both of them are called Hashim! ;)
Hashim is Roslin and Hafiz's father. I would expect Hafiz to be better than his father in badminton too!
happy go lucky 03-29-2005, 09:43 AM Hafiz and LCW without a doubt! hmm.... 3rd place should go to those who's doubt about WCH :p
Shuttlebugs 04-13-2005, 01:28 AM Hafiz and LCW without a doubt! hmm.... 3rd place should go to those who's doubt about WCH :p
WCH appears to be on the way down. The place should be given to one from the 'next generation' with the best potential.
wl2172 04-13-2005, 05:49 AM I think it should be...LCW, Hafiz and KBH, new blood all the way :)
whizkelv 04-14-2005, 09:50 AM Some changes in the Malaysian ranking seen after the Thai and Japan Open.
Lee CW - moved up to #5 (all time career high) :)
Hafiz Hashim - the new Malaysian no 2 at world #8 spot
Wong CH - dropped out of top 10, now ranked 11
Kuan BH - reached his career high at world #14
Sairul Amar - world #20
Roslin Hashim - world #21
No doubt, Lee CW and Hafiz has virtually seal their LA ticket.
Who will be the 3rd player for Malaysia? Kuan BH has been making waves lately, and can be deemed as serious threat to Wong CH.
Don't rule out Roslin as well, especially with Misbun's influence in the squad selection thought Roslin is no longer in the top 20.
Sairul can kiss goodbye to his WC hopes... thanks for his offensive actions towards Misbun.
I'm seeing a 3-horse race between Wong CH, Kuan BH and Roslin. Would be interesting to see who will Misbun pick eventually.
FEND. 04-15-2005, 09:14 AM Some changes in the Malaysian ranking seen after the Thai and Japan Open.
Lee CW - moved up to #5 (all time career high) :)
Hafiz Hashim - the new Malaysian no 2 at world #8 spot
Wong CH - dropped out of top 10, now ranked 11
Kuan BH - reached his career high at world #14
Sairul Amar - world #20
Roslin Hashim - world #21
No doubt, Lee CW and Hafiz has virtually seal their LA ticket.
Who will be the 3rd player for Malaysia? Kuan BH has been making waves lately, and can be deemed as serious threat to Wong CH.
Don't rule out Roslin as well, especially with Misbun's influence in the squad selection thought Roslin is no longer in the top 20.
Sairul can kiss goodbye to his WC hopes... thanks for his offensive actions towards Misbun.
I'm seeing a 3-horse race between Wong CH, Kuan BH and Roslin. Would be interesting to see who will Misbun pick eventually.
Isn't Yap the head honcho now and the guy who'll call the shots
Wong Choon Hann shall be the 3rd MS representing Malaysia unless he's injure. I don't think anyone, including Misbun, dare to use his influence to replace Choon Hann with Roslin. Head coach Yap Kim Hock, a Mr. nice guy, is certainly not going to make this unpopular decision.
jamesd20 04-17-2005, 02:32 PM The first two are obvious (LCW + WCH), but the third is difficult. SAA+ KBH are unproven at that level, so their selections look unlikely at the moment.
Roslin is more consistent, but if they are looking for a winner then I wouldnt think roslin is the man. I go for Hafiz, but I don't know when the choice has to be made by(Seven?).
Moving on a few months, My choice is still the same. But with different preferences. LCW and Hafiz will be my definites. WCH still the one to go for IMO, he has experiecne and has potential to win. KBH may be almost ahead of him in the rankings, and the experience may be good for him, but does anyone seriousley think he has a chance to win?
Still a few more months though. To be continued.
hcyong 04-20-2005, 01:13 AM There is a very tiny chance that Malaysia (followed by China and Denmark) can have 4 representatives in the MS.
weeyet 04-20-2005, 01:22 PM there are no major international tournaments after the sudirman cup... not sure about malaysia domestic match... unless beng hong or roslin can prove they r in really good form either in training or domestic circuit, otherwise Choong Hann could be rest assured of a place in the world meet.
weeyet 04-20-2005, 01:30 PM Don't think Kuan Beng Hong would have the chance for the world meet anyway. How could he prove that he deserves a place? Maybe unless he does extremely well in national local circuit. But does it mean the same in a world class tournament?? In term of experience, mental strength especially when palying with star players and under pressure.
The last major tournament before August is the Sudirman Cup and Malaysia is still in Division 2, won't be playing against any big guns for men events. (p/s: is Beng Hong in the squad?)
Anyway, there would be only one reason if Beng Hong is really the third Malaysian MS flying to LA: TO Prepare him for Next year's Thomas CUp.
Ben Beckman 05-18-2005, 09:10 AM lee choong wei-malaysias best hopes as he has all the shots, very good footwork,can put the shuttle away and is extremely quick.
hafiz-same relli as lee choong wei without as much explosive movement, still good as his relaxed style wins him matches(funny he is so different from his brother who bounces everywhere)
wong choong hann-his last chance to win, the most experienced, one of the quickest players in the world. at 2003 world champs no-one expected him to get far yet he got runners up spot, getting their incredibly easily. he peaked for that tournament and it showed with the best display of badminton IMO. if he peaks again he will be a definated title hope.
IMO-roslin is passed it and has never performed at major tournaments whereas wong choong hann has performed well at big tournaments.
you can't deny hafiz and lee choong wei,they will get experience and are the best players malaysia have got, but wong choong hann could still give them a good game if not beat them on his day.
lee choong wei,hafiz hashim, and wong choong hann!
shawn30_k 05-19-2005, 09:39 AM actually i dont really agree that wch is really that fantastic of a player.i saw him playing at 2003 wc final.xia was making most of the errors in the 2nd game.
kokcheng 05-19-2005, 09:49 AM Wong Choon Hann shall be the 3rd MS representing Malaysia unless he's injure. I don't think anyone, including Misbun, dare to use his influence to replace Choon Hann with Roslin. Head coach Yap Kim Hock, a Mr. nice guy, is certainly not going to make this unpopular decision.u're absolutely right:)
hcyong 05-19-2005, 09:44 PM From the Sudirman Cup lineup, you can sort of tell which 3 are going.
Ben Beckman 05-20-2005, 04:33 AM shawn30_k
if u had watched wongs earlier rounds you would of seen that wong is a fantastic player. xia was making the errors because of the pressure, and fast pace wong was playing at. surely you try not to make errors which wong did and waited for a xia error. plus i have seen that match, got it on tape, and from what i saw wong played well in the second set and half of the third, xia was in control in the first and second half of the third. by saying wong is not a fantastic player is a bit short sighted, he is a former world number 1 and got to the world champs final 2003 and played well.
kokcheng 05-22-2005, 12:38 AM I feel Yap should send KBH if he is thinking of long term prospects.To be fair to everybody he should send the player most likely to win the WC.:cool: :cool: :cool:
This will be Wong Choon Hann last World Championship and Wong has shown he's still very capable by reaching semi final in All England 2005. I think with the 3 amigos, namely Lee Chong Wei, Hafiz and Choon Hann, Malaysia still stand a very decent chance of grabbing the trophy. Compare to 2003 lineup, I think our MS is stronger. I also expect Mew Choo to create some major upset, I only hope she doesn't get bad draw and meet Chinese players in round 1.
Don't forget, the only reason BAM hire Li Mao is for this event and I think our players can deliver.
KourKK 05-22-2005, 01:06 AM Our players will deliver, but they will need some luck as well to reach the semis or even the finals, hopefully they will be drawn in different quarters of the draw from the Chinese players (Lin Dan/Chen Hong etc) and even the Indonesians (Taufik/Sony).
But for entertainment purposes, im hoping for a LCW Taufik final, will be a great match, but for malaysia winning the WC Mens Singles, im hoping for a LCW - Hafiz final, with one of them beating WCH along the way!!! :D
FEND. 05-22-2005, 02:57 AM From the Sudirman Cup lineup, you can sort of tell which 3 are going.
Roslin Hashim, KBH and Sairul!!! :D:D:D
Currently the Msian Line up is #1 Lee Chong Wei , #2 Hafiz , #3 Still have not decided yet.
Yap may sound tough but I think it's pretty much a done deal for MS selection, LCW, Hafiz and Choon Hann unless injury strikes. Malaysia still need Choon Hann to "clear path" for his team mates as Kwun Beng Hong and Ayub are too raw for that.
The scenario of LCW vs Taufik in the final can occur only because the draw is good where :
1)Taufik take care of 2 Chinese players(Lin Dan and Boa) in upper bracket;
2)LCW take care of Choon Hann who took care of Chen Hong in early round in lower bracket :D
See, not that difficult, at least on paper :D
Malaysia boleeeeeeh!
Brave_Turtle 05-22-2005, 03:55 PM Yap may sound tough but I think it's pretty much a done deal for MS selection, LCW, Hafiz and Choon Hann unless injury strikes. Malaysia still need Choon Hann to "clear path" for his team mates as Kwun Beng Hong and Ayub are too raw for that.
The scenario of LCW vs Taufik in the final can occur only because the draw is good where :
1)Taufik take care of 2 Chinese players(Lin Dan and Boa) in upper bracket;
2)LCW take care of Choon Hann who took care of Chen Hong in early round in lower bracket :D
See, not that difficult, at least on paper :D
Malaysia boleeeeeeh!
Taufik has 50/50 chance to beat any of Lin Dan or Bao so he has 25% to face LCW if LCW can reach final.
Bottom line the chances that those 2 reach final is less than 10%.
seven 05-23-2005, 03:35 AM The Star Online (http://thestar.com.my/default.asp) > Sports (http://thestar.com.my/news/sports/) Monday May 23, 2005
Choong Hann out to win coaches’ hearts
PETALING JAYA: National singles badminton player Wong Choong Hann has already won the hands of his bride, Leaw Pik Sim.
Now he sets his sights on winning the hearts of the coaches in confirming his place in the World Badminton Championships, which will be played in Los Angeles in August.
The 28-year-old southpaw will be tying the knot with his long-time girlfriend on June 11 and by then, Choong Hann hopes his place in the world meet will be confirmed.
Choong Hann, the world number 11, is the third highest ranked Malaysian singles player after Lee Chong Wei (fourth) and Mohd Hafiz Hashim (sixth).
However, youngster Kuan Beng Hong is also in contention for a place in the world meet after he was announced as one of the qualifiers.
Beng Hong is ranked 12th but it is up to the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) to pick their final three singles representatives for the world meet.
A country can nominate three players, provided they are all ranked inside the top 24. The BAM have until June 2 to decide on the initial list. The International Badminton Federation (IBF) will confirm all entries, including those who are on the reserve list and wild cards by July 11.
Although Choong Hann was the runner-up in the last world meet in Birmingham two years ago, his performances have not been that encouraging since then. He has since slipped down the pecking order but Choong Hann has checked the slide with a semi-final appearance in the All-England in March.
“I still cannot say for sure that I will be in the team for the World Championships,” said Choong Hann. “All I can do is to continue giving my best in training. It’s up to the coaches to decide whether I am good enough at the end of the day.”
But one thing is for sure at the moment. Choong Hann is not giving up on the singles game although he filled in superbly in the mixed doubles role with Wong Pei Tty in the Sudirman Cup campaign in Beijing two weeks ago.
“I want to concentrate on the singles for the time being. But I like the idea of playing in the doubles at the same time. I can improve my reflexes and speed. It does help me to become better in the singles,” he said.
Choong Hann partnered Pei Tty twice in Malaysia’s Sudirman Cup campaign. They paved the way for Malaysia’s 3-1 win over Japan in the playoff for promotion to Division One with a straight-game win over Ikeda Shintaro-Tomomi Matsuda.
Choong Hann-Pei Tty also gave a good account of themselves against Taiwan – beating Tsai Chia-hsin-Chien Yu-chin in straight games.
jkusmanto 05-23-2005, 09:39 AM If I was Mr. YKH, I will send Lee Chong Wei, Mohd Hafiz Hashim and Wong Choong Hann.
Even WCH rang is lower than LCW and Hafiz. But he is a 'old ginger'.
He has more fighting spirit and experiences than the others.
weeyet 05-31-2005, 09:48 PM It's already confirmed that Choong Hann will go to LA. He can handle with big pressure and opponents compared to Beng Hong.
seven 06-01-2005, 03:15 AM It's already confirmed that Choong Hann will go to LA. He can handle with big pressure and opponents compared to Beng Hong.
Yes it's confirmed. Read here : http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=249916#post249916
weeyet 06-01-2005, 11:28 AM malaysia 2005 WC line-up:
ms:
lee chong wei
muhd hafiz hashim
wong choong hann
ws:
wong mew choo
mudukasan a/p sutheaswari (have to look for sponsor herself)
md:
chan chong ming - koo kien keat
mohd fairuzizuan tazari - lin woon fui
tan bin shen - ong soon hock
wd:
wong pei tty - chin ee hui
ooi sock ai - mooi hing yau
xd:
koo kien keat - wong pei tty
mohd fairuzizuan - fong chew yen
weeyet 06-02-2005, 07:45 AM malaysia 2005 WC line-up:
xd:
mohd fairuzizuan - ** ooi sock ai
And the accompanying coaches for Malaysian WC 2005 squad are:
Yap Kim Hock
Li Mao
Cheah Soon Kit
Misbun bin Sidek
Rexy Manaiky
This will be a good test for Rexy :) .
Somehow we rely too much on big names coaches to guide the Malaysian players to the next level. Before we had Park Jubong, Morten Frost but failed to achieve anything meaningful and now Li Mao and Rexy ... I have yet to see any impact of Li Mao on our players and certainly not sure how much Rexy will bring to Malaysia either. Base on results of Singapore Open, Malaysians do not look good prior to World Championship :crying:
KourKK 07-10-2005, 12:29 AM Somehow we rely too much on big names coaches to guide the Malaysian players to the next level. Before we had Park Jubong, Morten Frost but failed to achieve anything meaningful and now Li Mao and Rexy ... I have yet to see any impact of Li Mao on our players and certainly not sure how much Rexy will bring to Malaysia either. Base on results of Singapore Open, Malaysians do not look good prior to World Championship :crying:
But looking on the Malaysian Open, I feel that being under LiMao has helped Lee Chong Wei, Especially with his offensive play which has improved tremendously
I usually right but not this time during Malaysia Open so high performance coach Li Mao does make impact on Lee Chong Wei.
Of course, it takes a real man to admit his mistake :D
Li Mao is very strict with his boys. No mercy attitude towards them.
Indeed, so much attention has been given to the team's selection and quite a bit of money spent sending the Malaysian team to the Mardrid WC.
But in the end, all the time, effort and other resources came almost to nothing! Because the players who were supposed to deliver failed miserably. It took the unfancied XD pair of KKK and WPT to present Team Malaysia with a surprised bronze medal. It appears this pair hardly had the time to train together but yet it was their desire to give of their best that saw them beat the WR1 and the previous titile holder, the Indonesian partenership of Nova and Natsir.
But KKK/WPT's lack of practice showed when they met and got beaten quite easily by the English pair of Clark and Kellogg in the SF.
Apart from pride, quite a bit of other considerations are at stake and no wonder national associations are reluctant to send their players oversears if there is no hope of either getting the medals or letting thier players benefit from their experience by playing against players from elsewhere or in quite different playing conditions.
PBSI was in the news not too long ago for being accused of not exposing their players overseas for more competitions. I wonder whether they will now be more selective since none of the Indonesian players were able to win any medals in this WC?
And in the case of Malaysia, the national women's coach appeared to be at a loss as to how club players could be selected to participate in the Doha Asian Games in December despite their success in certain tournaments. What about the national players who toiled almost daily in the national team?
Exactly, who should be selected to represent one's country?
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