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Sorry if this has been answered before, but is Taufik playing then? Has he overcome his injury?

Joe P.

MS summary

#01 (Lin Dan)
#16 (Sato) starts off with Lee TS
#05 (Bao)
#13 (Ng Wei)
#04 (Kenneth)
#09 (Hafiz) starts off with Anders Boesen
#06 (Lee CW) starts off with Ronald Susilo
#14 (Joppien)
#15 (Boonsak) - starts off with Chen Jin and then either Chen Yu or Kendrick
#07 (Wong CH)
#11 (Dicky) - starts off with Agus Hariyanto and then probably Roslin
#03 (Chen Hong)
#12 (Kaldau) - has Kuan Beng Hong as probable 2nd round opponent
#08 (Taufik) - starts off with Sairul Amar
#10 (Xia)
#02 (Peter Gade)

Poor Gong Weijie has to qualify and if he does will meet Bao.
Lee Cheol Ho has to qualify and if he does will meet Marc Zwiebler.

Juicy hypothetical R16 matches:
Kenneth v Hafiz
Boonsak v Wong CH
Gade v Xia

Juicy hypothetical QFinal matches:
GADE v TAUFIK !!! in the quarterfinals (well, it's Taufik's fault)
Lee CW v Hafiz/Kenneth

Juicy hypothetical SFinal matches:
TAUFIK/GADE v CHEN HONG !!!
LIN DAN v LEE CW/HAFIZ/KENNETH !!!

Juicy hypothetical Final match:
LIN DAN v TAUFIK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry if this has been answered before, but is Taufik playing then? Has he overcome his injury?

Joe P.

If you look at some of the juicy hypothetical matches, you will see the answer.

Haha, yes, when I saw the draw, I got quite excited at the prospects, but then one of my friends insisted that he was still injured and since he keeps up to date with the news at home more than I do, I wasn't sure if this draw reflects his current fitness state.

But I'll gladly take your word for it :D

Go Taufik!

Joe P.

Haha, yes, when I saw the draw, I got quite excited at the prospects, but then one of my friends insisted that he was still injured and since he keeps up to date with the news at home more than I do, I wasn't sure if this draw reflects his current fitness state.

But I'll gladly take your word for it :D

Go Taufik!

Joe P.

Now, I'm a bit worried. This can destroy half of my juicy hypothetical matches.

I'll gladly take my word for it as well.

WS summary

#1 (Zhang Ning)
#7 (Mia)
#4 (Wang Chen)
#5 (Zhou Mi) - Yonekura first, Tine Rasmussen or Seo Yoon Hee in round 2
#8 (Xu Huaiwen)
#3 (Pi Hongyan) - probably Eriko Hirose in round 2
#6 (Yao Jie)
#2 (Xie) - Kaori Mori/Tracey Hallam in round 2

Gong Ruina is missing.
Wong Mew Choo has to qualify and if she does, meets Juliane Schenk
Lee Yun Hwa has to qualify and if she does, meets Miyo Akao
Who is Eva Lee (USA)? Funny that she is in the main draw.

I think Xie and Zhang will meet in the final again.

MD summary

#1 (Eriksen/Lungaard) - starts off with Guo/Xie
#6 (Ha Tae Kwon/Lee Yong Dae) - starts off with Gunawan/Bach. then either Chan/Koo or Boe/Mogensen
#3 (Fu/Cai) - starts off with Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock
#5 (Flandi/Eng Hian) - probably Kidho/Setiawan in round 2
#7 (Sang/Zheng) - starts off with Laybourn/Steffensen
#4 (LP/JR)
#8 (Chandra/Sigit) - starts off with Jung Jae Sung/Lee Jae Jin
#2 (Luluk/Alven) - Sudket/Patapol, then maybe with Choong/Chew

nice summary with your juicy hypothetical matches hcyong :)

WD summary

#1 (Yang/Zhang)
#5 (Olsen/Schjoldager)
#3 (Gao/Huang) - Emms/Kellogg first round and Zhang/Zhang second
#7 (Lee/Lee)
#6 (Chin/Wong)
#4 (Saralee/Sathinee)
#8 (Tripp, Wright)
#2 (Wei/Zhao)
Du/Yu not in the draw.

XD summary
#1 (Robertson/Emms) - if pass round 1, meet Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
#6 (Zhang/Gao)
#4 (Sudket/Saralee) - either Nugroho/Tetty or Koo/Wong in 2nd round
#7 (Mogensen/Olsen) - Laybourn/Juhl or Lee Yong Dae/Ha Jung Eun in round 2
#5 (Widianto/Natsir)
#3 (Chen/Zhao)
#8 (Blair/Munt) - starts off with Saputra/Li Yujia
#2 (Eriksen/Schjoldager) - 2nd round Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung (Korea final)
Interestingly, in the qualifiers are:
Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won (if they qualify, meet Chen/Zhao in round 2)
Zheng Bo/Huang Sui (if qualify, meet Robertson/Emms)
Njoto/Wang Chen (if qualify, meet Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen)

By the look of the draw and barring any injuries/early upsets, I hope to finally see Fu/Cai against Candra/Sigit in the Final..Too bad, if they meet each other, Candra/Sigit will have to meet Luluk/Alven as early as the QF..

MD summary

#1 (Eriksen/Lungaard) - starts off with Guo/Xie
#6 (Ha Tae Kwon/Lee Yong Dae) - starts off with Gunawan/Bach. then either Chan/Koo or Boe/Mogensen
#3 (Fu/Cai) - starts off with Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock
#5 (Flandi/Eng Hian) - probably Kidho/Setiawan in round 2
#7 (Sang/Zheng) - starts off with Laybourn/Steffensen
#4 (LP/JR)
#8 (Chandra/Sigit) - starts off with Jung Jae Sung/Lee Jae Jin
#2 (Luluk/Alven) - Sudket/Patapol, then maybe with Choong/Chew

Barring any injuries/early upsets, it looks like it could be a rematch of the Swiss Open Final : Robertson/Emms vs. Widianto/Natsir in the Final..Unless of course Gao/Zhang can step up and beat the English pair in the QF..

WD summary

#1 (Yang/Zhang)
#5 (Olsen/Schjoldager)
#3 (Gao/Huang) - Emms/Kellogg first round and Zhang/Zhang second
#7 (Lee/Lee)
#6 (Chin/Wong)
#4 (Saralee/Sathinee)
#8 (Tripp, Wright)
#2 (Wei/Zhao)
Du/Yu not in the draw.

XD summary
#1 (Robertson/Emms) - if pass round 1, meet Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
#6 (Zhang/Gao)
#4 (Sudket/Saralee) - either Nugroho/Tetty or Koo/Wong in 2nd round
#7 (Mogensen/Olsen) - Laybourn/Juhl or Lee Yong Dae/Ha Jung Eun in round 2
#5 (Widianto/Natsir)
#3 (Chen/Zhao)
#8 (Blair/Munt) - starts off with Saputra/Li Yujia
#2 (Eriksen/Schjoldager) - 2nd round Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung (Korea final)
Interestingly, in the qualifiers are:
Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won (if they qualify, meet Chen/Zhao in round 2)
Zheng Bo/Huang Sui (if qualify, meet Robertson/Emms)
Njoto/Wang Chen (if qualify, meet Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen)

Yes!!This is what everyone is and will be expecting..Not to undervalue the othe other players, but anything less will probably be a "less attractive" match...Just look at the poster boy of the this year's Japan Open himself, Taufik...Hope he's healthy or if not at least close to 100% and ready to go and can show some good games...On that note, i have a gut feeling he'll reach the Finals as he is positioned in a different group-away from BCL and playing against players he's more comfortable with (ie. Gade, ChenHong)-add to that the prize money which will be quite high and I'm sure he could be thinking of that extra money he'll get back home if he wins it..:).

Hopefully the Japanese can figure out how to broadcast the games live just like in Swiss Open-it's quite "embarrassing" if a 5* event like Japan Open can't even do that and be "surpassed" technology-wise by a 3* event..Esp. if it's also played in Japan..:p


Juicy hypothetical Final match:
LIN DAN v TAUFIK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taufik is not comfortable playing Gade... he's trailing 2-7 in their head to head ;)

Yes, i notice that. But not to sound like I'm giving "excuses", but i notice most if not all of Taufik's losses came when he played against PGade either in Denmark or England(Europe), 7 times to be specific. Also, out of those 9 meetings, i think the only ones that should "count" are only 7 of them, as the other 2 meetings were just Invitation event. The only time Gade beat Taufik outside of England/Denmark(Europe) was in Taipei at the 2000 Chinese Taipei Open.
(In general and as mentioned few times, Taufik for some reason tends to "struggle" to win any tournaments that is held outside of Asia, esp. "big tourneys"(AE, WC), until last year in Athens).

Since that win in Taipei, and for numerous reasons, they actually never played against each other from 2000 til 2004(@ last year's OG)..

Anyway, we(at least myself) shall see how Taufik is progressing and ready. Hope both of them can meet each other in the QF..

Taufik is not comfortable playing Gade... he's trailing 2-7 in their head to head ;)

agree... I think its due to Gades injury and Taufiks loose of motivation that they only met twice since 2000.. Right now at their best I would rate Taufik to win but I have my doubt about Gae getting through Xia.. Taufik will if he's at his best win the tournament in my opinion. Gade at his best can also do it along with Lin Dan, Chen Hong and as a dark horse Hafiz and KJ

taufik said in an interview that he didnt have any targets in jo, but he would try his best, becos he said that even tho his injury was getting better, he couldnt guarantee that his condition would go back to normal while playing
that doesnt sound so good

so dont lift your hopes high about him yet guys, but wish him all the best anywayhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

hcyHong, thanks for putting together all disciplinies and cmmenting on them.

A word about the Chinese players.

MS ChenJin and GongWJ are being readied poste-haste to replace Xia and ChenY. Xia lost last night to Susilo in 3 after beating KuanBH in 3. No doubt Susilo is a giant killer (Bao in Japan, Lin in Athens and now Xia) and Kuan is Malaysia's best young hope, but Xia has done little since the WC.Chen hasn't been in a SF for a while.

WS China is looking for successors to the big 3, who might all go after the WC. Luckily XieXf emerged, but there is no one after that. The 2004 WJC group were decimated in Siam. The older ZhuLin, LuLan and JiangYj are in the Japan Q's. Chen Lanting, WangRong, Chen Li (not in Japan) have not done well either. Maybe that is why GongR's request to retire after the O' was refused and she is sulking. Hence her absence.

MD China badly needs a 3rd/4th pair as Zheng/Sang are stagnating. Xie/Guo WJC 2000/2002 are favourites but they faced the top seeds in Siam in Rd 1 and will play the top seed in Rd 2 in Japan. Others: Hehanbin (from WJC 2004) and HeHanjing and a pair with a 2002 MD SF (Sun Junjie) but nothing worked.

WD GaoL is going after the WC so China needs a 3rd pair.ZhangD/ZhangYw were world No.4 in January but lost their rank due to absence from the German, AE and Swiss.Yawen (with WeiYl) was WD WJC 2000 and was in the top 3 pairs till Huang Nanyan retired and a reshuffle brought ZhaoTT in and dislodged Yawen. Du/Yu are from 2002 WJC and can wait till Gao. goes

XD China is dangerously weak. Gao/Zhang are spent and will go after the WC. ChenQq/ZhaoTt, sole survivors of the trials before 2003 WC involving WangWei, ChengRui, ZhangWei, are good but not tops. Chen, 27 is likely to go after the WC. Sang Yang/ZhangYw, 2000 XD WJC, also played v well in 2002/3 but Sang had to focus on the MD and that ended. Now Zhengbo (R-u 2000 XD with WeiYl) is plaired with Huang Sui preparing for life after GaoL. Xie/ZhangYw or Xie/Yu for NO.3 ? Then GuoZhendong/Du? The first pair are in top 20s but didn't play many matches.Yu, XD WJC 2002 with Guo played with Xie till the Siam Open, when Zhang took over and continues with him in Japan. Yu is not in Japan.

Predictions
Ms Lin Dan, WS XieXinfeng WD Yang/zhang, MD Cai/Fu XD Lee/Lee
I certainly do not expect China to end up empty-handed like in 2004.

Y

MD China badly needs a 3rd/4th pair as Zheng/Sang are stagnating. Xie/Guo WJC 2000/2002 are favourites but they faced the top seeds in Siam in Rd 1 and will play the top seed in Rd 2 in Japan. Others: Hehanbin (from WJC 2004) and HeHanjing and a pair with a 2002 MD SF (Sun Junjie) but nothing worked.


XD China is dangerously weak.

Y


MD. 2 pairs in MD for China are more than enough. Compare when they didn't had any good pair 3 years ago. Sang/Zheng didn't play bad at all. Although lately their results mostly QF but they only lost to other strong doubles . Just need some time to improving. Not all couples can rise as fast as Cai/Fu. Even Lars/Jonas who play doubles for years emerged 2 years ago at the World Championship.

XD. The solution is real easy. Just pick one of their strongest MD players. Between Cai , Fu, Sang and Zheng. Pick one of them and pair with one of the WD top players. Within time, they will become one of the top XD pair. Never know why the China never do that except this time they pair Zheng Bo with Huang Sui. Hope they do it consistently. And dind't split the pair real fast.

Like Xie Zhong Bo/ Du Jing only play for 2-3 tournaments and they changed it with Xie and Zhang Ya Wen. How the pair will play great together if they split up them all times.

HCPoirot

Since 1996 when GaoL/YangWei were WD WJC, China has switched partners for all the WJC/R-u in MD,WD, XD. XieXF/ZhangZw and Huang Sui/GongRuinai 1998 WJC&R-U. Zhang Yawen/WeiYli and ZhaoTt/LiYujia (now S'porean) 2000 WD WJC/R-u YuYang and Du Jing (2002) had other parnters like the men, XieZB, (2000), GuoZD, Sun Junjie (2002) in the MD and XD. XD WJC GuoZD/Yu (2002) He Hanbin/TianQing (2004) were also separated.All women found new partners;half the men were dropped. Sang/Zheng are the only pair intact from WJC days - an indication of China's MD prroblem.

MD I disagree that 2 MD pairs suffices. Danmark, Indo'sia, Korea have 3/5 pairs (some v old) in the 5* main draws. Both China's pairs are under 25 but she needs a back-up for injury/rotation and to remove rivals from the draw, as team and mixed tournaments are pushed as an O' event. Cai-Fu rose rapidly but Alven/Luluk who started later,were even faster at one stage.
After 3 years and at 22/23 Sang/Zheng should be showing more.

XD If you watched China's failure to find a 2nd XD pair in 2002/3, you'll realize that XD is NOT 'easy' as you say - just pair x with y etc! XD is special. SangY/ZhangYw and Zhengbo/WeiYl, WJC/R-U, 2000 could have played the s. circuit immediately like the MS, MD and WD of 2000 WJC. Though Sang/ Zhang played well in 2002/3 they were dropped so Sang could focus on the 2nd MD, as China needed it more than the 2nd XD where Liu/Ge and Zhang/Gao had dominated.
Actually XieZb/ZhangYw were in the senior circuit when Yu (not Du) was still a junior. When Du/Yu WD emerged, Yu/Xie for XD was possible if they are in the same tournament. Guo/Du have not played lately.I hope ZhangYw gets a slot as she lost a place in XD from strategic planning and in WD due to her youth. She'd just turned 17 when she won both WJC WD and XD in 2000.

NB there is a Korean XD in the main draw who are 16 and 17?

Y

Go Ronald Go....haha..
But I pip Hafiz and Lin Dan final. In form guys. Hopefully there are on each half of the draw.
rgds

Ronald hasnt been performing well lately :( . Given his draw of meeting LCW in the 1st round, think he cant secure this title this yr...

Anyway, all the best to him ! :o

is it me or did the english singles players all get harsh draws for this tournament? Aamir Ghaffar drawn against Lin Dan, Nicolas Kidd drawn against Chen Hong and Andrew Smith drawn against Ng Wei.

How demoralising can it get..

come on Nathan and Gail!
come on Anthony and Donna for that matter, after running Nathan and Gail close last weekend it might be that Anthony and Donna are a force to be reckoned with as well..

we'll see :)

PS most bizarre mens double pairing.. Anthony Clark of England with Nugroho Anggunn of Indonesia.. Guessing old man archer is injured again..

I just checked out the Japan Open website, it seems like there is no way we can get the latest results or have I missed out the livescore information?

Its not you only.
Theres no way I can check out the results of the match too.
Yeap,Go Ronald Go!
I think Ronald has been performing quite well for Thailand Open.
He should be regaining his form.
All the best Ronald!

Its not you only.
Theres no way I can check out the results of the match too.
Yeap,Go Ronald Go!
I think Ronald has been performing quite well for Thailand Open.
He should be regaining his form.
All the best Ronald!

6* tournament, a hi-tech country ... I don't know why their website don't have live scores ...

Ronald's first match will be against Lee Chong Wei. Unlucky for both of them.

[QUOTE=coops241180]is it me or did the english singles players all get harsh draws for this tournament? Aamir Ghaffar drawn against Lin Dan, Nicolas Kidd drawn against Chen Hong and Andrew Smith drawn against Ng Wei.

How demoralising can it get..]

Its just you. The English players are unseeded and can be drawn anywhere; apart from Ghaffar the others are unknowns so no great loss. They should relish being a Centre Court match with a top player which will never otherwise happen by elimination, as they will normally be out by Rd 2.

If you think they drew a short straw by design look at what Zhou Mi has to face in the first 3 rounds; XieXfang has only a slightly better draw. See what I mean? Top players get no special favour either.

y

6* tournament, a hi-tech country ... I don't know why their website don't have live scores ...

Ronald's first match will be against Lee Chong Wei. Unlucky for both of them.

Why do they have to meet so early.....quite unlucky.

Why do they have to meet so early.....quite unlucky.


Susilo is unseeded, so can meet any of seeds...shame he didn't meet Lin Dan again.

He is the defending champion, but that doesn't help you get a seeding.

6* tournament, a hi-tech country ... I don't know why their website don't have live scores ...


Correction. It is a 5* tournament, not 6*. But it does not excuse the fact that I still don't know the results.

i suppose there is page for results becos i saw that there was, but when i clicked on it, appeared some tables and lists in japanesehttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif, so i dun get it

http://www.yonexopenjp.com/Draw/index_en.html

Results are updated at the end of the day, I guess.

No big surprises in the qualifying round. My relief is that Wong Mew Choo advanced safely to the main draw. Other Malaysians who qualified are Gan Teik Chai/Abdul Latif and Gan Teik Chai/Fong Chew Yen. The others (all 3 MS - Salim Sameon, Pei Wei Chung and Yogendran, Lim Pek Siah/Ang Li Peng - when will we have a reliable second WD? - and M. Sutheaswari - when will we have a reliable second WS?) all lost.

Elsewhere, Gong Weijie, Lee Cheol Ho, Niu Jiaping (Chn) and Yohan Hadikusuma advanced. Jiang Yanjiao, Lu Lan, Chie Umezu and Zhu Lin also advanced. Zhu Lin defeated Lee Yun Hwa. Francisca Ratnasari (Ina) also failed losing to Ai Goto (Jpn)

In MD, both the Indonesian pairs advanced with Andersen/Lamp and Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon. In WD, Yonekura partnered Imabeppu to defeat Ha Jung Eun/Park Soo Hee to get to the main draw. Lu Lan/Jiang Yanjiao also advanced.

Finally in the XD, Zheng Bo/Huang Sui advanced together with Njoto/Wang Chen.

Quick analysis of todays qualifications :

MX (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exdq.htm)

Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won were knocked out by (unknown?) japanese pair (Yamashita/Hikichi)
Wang Chen qualified playing with Njoto (unusual to see her in MX)
No surprise Zheng Bo and Huang Sui also made it to the main draw...

MS (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/emsq.htm)

No notable surprise.
Yohan Wiratama had to go through the qualifications.
So did youngsters Gong Weijie and Lee Cheol Ho.
All other qualifiers are japanese except chinese Niu Jiaping (who is he?).

WS (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewsq.htm)

Favourites got through, including Wong Mew Choo, Chie Umezu, Lu Lan, Jiang Yanjiao...
Interesting to note that all indo girls failed to qualify though.

MD (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/emdq.htm)

In form Gan Teik Chai and Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif logically qualified.
So did the Danes Michael Lamp and Rasmus Mangor Andersen.
Two indo pairs qualified, with Karel Mainaky in one and Reoni Mainaky on the other. (I can't remember exactly, are they Rexy and Marleve's younger brothers?)

WD (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewdq.htm)

Mainly japanese pairs here.
Tracey Hallam also qualified with Nathalie Munt.
Usual WS players, youngsters Lu Lan and Jiang Yanjiao qualified together too.

Zhu Lin defeated Lee Yun Hwa.
Missed out that one. :rolleyes:

In WD, Yonekura partnered Imabeppu to defeat Ha Jung Eun/Park Soo Hee to get to the main draw.
Missed out that one too! ;)

Quick analysis of todays qualifications :

MX (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exdq.htm)

Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won were knocked out by (unknown?) japanese pair (Yamashita/Hikichi)
Wang Chen qualified playing with Njoto (unusual to see her in MX)
No surprise Zheng Bo and Huang Sui also made it to the main draw...}]

Jung/Lee exit is the surprise. WangChen has played several XD with Njoto. Huang/Zheng are both doubles specialists and were XD Finalists (1998/2000)in the WJC - the nasty bit:they face Bathan/Emms in Rd 1 and if they win, play XieZb/ZhangYwen.

[MS (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/emsq.htm)

Yohan Wiratama had to go through the qualifications.
So did youngsters Gong Weijie and Lee Cheol Ho.
All other qualifiers are japanese except chinese Niu Jiaping (who is he?).]

Agree, they should all be there. Also ? Niu. Sadly, GongWJ meets Bao Chulai in Rd 1 -like drawing Hafiz in Rd 1 in Siam.He won't have much practice this way.

[WS (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewsq.htm)

Favourites got through, including Wong Mew Choo, Chie Umezu, Lu Lan, Jiang Yanjiao...
Interesting to note that all indo girls failed to qualify though.]

Indo girls don't stand a chance with these seasoned 2nd line national players.

[MD (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/emdq.htm)

So did the Danes Michael Lamp and Rasmus Mangor Andersen.]

Unfortunately this previously top Danish pair has drawn the Chinese juniors Xie/Guo,

WD (http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewdq.htm)

Mainly japanese pairs here.
Tracey Hallam also qualified with Nathalie Munt.
Usual WS players, youngsters Lu Lan and Jiang Yanjiao qualified together too.
Lu Lan made the Chinese World Championship team as a WD player but now plays WS mainly.

Y

Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won were knocked out by (unknown?) japanese pair (Yamashita/Hikichi)


Well, I missed out this biggie. Last week, when they lost to Saputra/Li, I noted that mixed doubles is indeed a specialised event, and that being good in MD or WD does not neccessarily mean you can carry that over easily to the XD. But this has to be a very big upset.

Unless these Japanese are the new upcoming stars in their country!... :confused:

... Never heard of them anyway! :rolleyes:

Yes, they are. However, I'm not sure if they actually are in the Indonesian national team though, probably they have their own sponsor just like Marleve Mainaky.

So, as far as I know, here is the Mainaky's family:
1. Richard Mainaky
2. Marleve Mainaky
3. Rexy Mainaky
4. Reoni Mainaky
5. Karel Mainaky

The order is probably off a little bit.

[QUOTE=sevenTwo indo pairs qualified, with Karel Mainaky in one and Reoni Mainaky on the other. (I can't remember exactly, are they Rexy and Marleve's younger brothers?)
[/QUOTE]

... Never heard of them anyway! :rolleyes:

I dont believe you! :)

I dont believe you! :)
There are still quite a few players I have never heard of, believe me! ;)