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hcyong
04-05-2005, 08:07 PM
Today (Wed), there shall be 2 rounds in MS. WS main draw starts tomorrow.

MS (1st round)
Lee TS v Shoji Sato
Chen Yu v Kendrick Lee
Chen Jin v Boonsak

MS (2nd round - 1st round bye)
Bao v Gong Weijie (qualifier)
Lee CW v Ronald

Among the qualifiers, Lee Cheol Ho (v Zwiebler) and Niu Jiaping (v Jim Ronny Andersen) have good chances.

MS (possible 2nd round matches)
Hafiz v Boesen
Chen Yu or Kendrick v Chen Jin or Boonsak
Roslin v Dicky
Kuan BH v Kaldau

MD (1st round)
Guo Zhendong/Xie v Andersen/Lamp
Boe/Mogensen v Chan/Koo
Laybourn/Steffensen v Sang/Zheng

WD (1st round)
Gao/Huang v Emms/Kellogg

XD (1st round)
Robertson/Emms v Zheng Bo/Huang Sui
Nugroho/Tetty v KKK/Wong
Ha TK/Ha Jung Eun v Laybourn/Juhl
Saputra/Li v Blair/Munt

hcyong
04-05-2005, 10:16 PM
Well, shock of all shocks ... Zheng Bo/Huang Sui have done what Zhang Jun/Gao Ling failed to do recently. They bundled Robertson/Emms out in the first round.

Badmincraze
04-05-2005, 10:19 PM
u mean Robertson/Emms r out ?!?! :eek:

johnps
04-05-2005, 10:21 PM
u mean Robertson/Emms r out ?!?! :eek:
Robertson/Emms retired early in the first game trailing 0-2 after 2 mins of play. Probably due to some injury.

johnps
04-05-2005, 10:29 PM
u mean Robertson/Emms r out ?!?! :eek:
The only other seeded XD pair to lose is the 8th seeded English pairing of Blair & Munt. Singapore's Hendry and Yujia beat them in 3 games.

Badmincraze
04-05-2005, 10:32 PM
yeah! SIN made it thru the 1st round !:p

Can i ask where u get the results from? is there any live scores?

johnps
04-05-2005, 10:42 PM
yeah! SIN made it thru the 1st round !:p

Can i ask where u get the results from? is there any live scores?

There is no live score, at least not yet. Still hoping and praying that the organisers will do something about this.

However, the results are updated here : http://www.yonexopenjp.com/Draw/index_en.html

Badmincraze
04-05-2005, 10:44 PM
There is no live score, at least not yet. Still hoping and praying that the organisers will do something about this.

However, the results are updated here : http://www.yonexopenjp.com/Draw/index_en.html
Err... sorry to bother.. but i dun find any live results update at that website? is there any corner i've missed? :confused:

johnps
04-05-2005, 10:47 PM
Err... sorry to bother.. but i dun find any live results update at that website? is there any corner i've missed? :confused:
Click on the "Mixed Doubles" box under "Main Draw" near the top of the page.

hcyong
04-05-2005, 10:56 PM
Mixed doubles results are in.
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Saputra/Li bt 8th seeds Blair/Munt. Although not that surprising, this result further condemns the English camp in their favourite event.

The other seeds and favourites advanced to the last 16. KKK/WPT survived a three-setter against Nugroho/Tetty. Clark/Kellogg kept the English flag flying. Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen easily dispatched of Njoto/Wang Chen. Laybourn/Juhl also survived three sets against Ha Tae Kwon/Ha Jung Eun.

hcyong
04-05-2005, 11:08 PM
Robertson/Emms retired early in the first game trailing 0-2 after 2 mins of play. Probably due to some injury.

Oh, so that's what it was. I saw 2-0 and I thought it was two sets to love. Makes more sense now.

johnps
04-05-2005, 11:27 PM
Oh, so that's what it was. I saw 2-0 and I thought it was two sets to love. Makes more sense now.
Though Zeng Bo and Huang Sui is a new XD pairing but they make quite a formidable pair based on their respective MD and WD rankings.

rwchen
04-05-2005, 11:32 PM
I think the English pair Robertson/Emms may have overdo themselves in England Masters just before the Japan Open. Mixed doubles competition is open now. Hoping for the MS results to come in anytime now.

Badmincraze
04-05-2005, 11:36 PM
Click on the "Mixed Doubles" box under "Main Draw" near the top of the page.

i only managed to see the draw n the time they playing.. i cant see the results. Izzit my pc problem? :rolleyes:

johnps
04-05-2005, 11:48 PM
i only managed to see the draw n the time they playing.. i cant see the results. Izzit my pc problem? :rolleyes:
Presently, only the 1st round "Mixed Doubles" (Main Draw) and all the Qualifying Round results are updated. The 1st round "Men Singles" results should be updating soon.

Did you click on the wrong button ?

flymordecai
04-06-2005, 12:00 AM
As much as I like the new pairing of Xie Zhongbo and Zhang Yawen, I want them to lose to Zheng Bo/Huang Sui just so I can see them play Zhang/Gao. That would be an interesting match. :D

johnps
04-06-2005, 12:07 AM
I noticed that Korea has 3 mixed doubles pairs in the main draw. The partners for each pair have the same surnames, namely :

Ha Tae Kwon & Ha Jun Eun,
Hwang Ji Man & Hwang Yu Mi,
Lee Jae Jin & Lee Hyo Jung.

Just wondering whether if this is merely a coincidence or done so intentionally for whatever reasons ... lol :) :) :)

Z1985
04-06-2005, 12:18 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ems.htm

round1 MS results are out!

Z1985
04-06-2005, 12:20 AM
the results tells nothing.. hmm.. all the interesting matches are in round 2.. :(

Wai Shing
04-06-2005, 12:23 AM
Chen Jin lost to Ponsana in 3 sets...15-13, 8-15, 15-13

rwchen
04-06-2005, 12:25 AM
All the seeded players go through except for Dicky Palyama and Shoji Sato. Dicky Palyama lost to Agus Hariyanto (Hkg), a former Indonesian player. Lee TS triumphed over Shoji Sato after a 108 minutes battle, such a gruelling match. All the Malaysian players went through the first round. Chen Jin lost to Ponsana by a whisker in the first round, it's 13-15 in the rubber set.

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 12:47 AM
seriously, i cant see any results besides the match timing... maybe my pc here cant c any results. Anyway, thanks. I'll be keeping a lookout over here for the latest results.;)

hcyong
04-06-2005, 01:05 AM
seriously, i cant see any results besides the match timing... maybe my pc here cant c any results. Anyway, thanks. I'll be keeping a lookout over here for the latest results.;)

Clear your cache (Tools->Internet Options->Delete Files) and try again.

Lee TS beating Sato, although not surprising, is quite significant from the Japanese point of view. The only surprising result for me is Agus beating Dicky.

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 01:43 AM
Thanks guys, i got it. Can see the results FINALLY...:cool:


Kenderick lost to Chen Yu also... Hmm.. i haf this bad feeling that the SIN Men's singles would be packing their bags home after today :(

Haiz.......

kaihing
04-06-2005, 02:46 AM
lee chong wei hope you dont let us disappointment
:D

hcyong
04-06-2005, 02:50 AM
WD results
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewd.htm

6th seed Chin/Wong lost to Ogura/Shiota tamely.
8th seed Tripp/Wright retired against Louisa Koon/Li Wing Mui.
Hwang Yu Mi/Jun Woul Sik defeated Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia.
Other than that, nothing out of ordinary.

seven
04-06-2005, 03:14 AM
Lee TS triumphed over Shoji Sato after a 108 minutes battle, such a gruelling match.
9-15 15-10 17-16 !!!
Considering Shoji Sato's recent results and him playing on his home ground, this is a very good win for Lee Tsuen Seng!

seven
04-06-2005, 03:20 AM
WD results
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewd.htm

6th seed Chin/Wong lost to Ogura/Shiota tamely.
8th seed Tripp/Wright retired against Louisa Koon/Li Wing Mui.
Hwang Yu Mi/Jun Woul Sik defeated Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia.
Other than that, nothing out of ordinary.
Also Maeda/Suetsuna completely thrashed Helle Nielsen and Pernille Harder (danish n°2 pair) 15-3 15-9!

And Grether/Schenk were knocked out by Tracey Hallam and Nathalie Munt in three tight sets 11-15 17-15 15-12!!

Bresis
04-06-2005, 03:56 AM
Any latest results from the MS 2nd round??

night
04-06-2005, 04:52 AM
Result: MD = XD ???? :confused:

$100 Dreams
04-06-2005, 04:55 AM
Result: MD = XD ???? :confused:
Yup, i got that too...a major error!!!
No idea abt men's doubles results :crying:

wl2172
04-06-2005, 05:23 AM
Clear your cache (Tools->Internet Options->Delete Files) and try again.

Lee TS beating Sato, although not surprising, is quite significant from the Japanese point of view. The only surprising result for me is Agus beating Dicky.

or hit "CTRL + F5"

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 05:28 AM
still no updates on Men's Singles 2nd round yet? :confused:

Lin Dan made it thru 2-0 against Ghaffar to the 3rd round

xijiayu
04-06-2005, 05:39 AM
Yup, i got that too...a major error!!!
No idea abt men's doubles results :crying:
Please go to japanese version. Black day for Malaysia as only one pair go through!

xijiayu
04-06-2005, 05:41 AM
Please go to japanese version. Black day for Malaysia as only one pair go through!
Here is the link

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/md.htm

Bresis
04-06-2005, 05:45 AM
still no updates on Men's Singles 2nd round yet? :confused:

Lin Dan made it thru 2-0 against Ghaffar to the 3rd round
Dat's good!! Where did u get the result? How abt the match between Ronald Susilo and LCW? And between BCL and Gong Weijie?

wl2172
04-06-2005, 05:48 AM
Please go to japanese version. Black day for Malaysia as only one pair go through!


Black day it is....Malaysian MD just not good enough. We need quality, not quantity.

However, it is refreshing to see the youngsters put up some fight.

$100 Dreams
04-06-2005, 05:56 AM
Here is the link

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/md.htm

Tks! Yea...a disappointing outing for the malaysian doubles pairs :(

Hope Chong Wei and Choong Han will bring home glory...:p

Go Gade
04-06-2005, 06:25 AM
Peter Gade won his first match against Yuichi Ikeda from Japan, 15-1 15-5! In the next round he will play against Lee Cheol Ho, who beat Xia Xuanze! :eek: :eek: :eek:

$100 Dreams
04-06-2005, 06:34 AM
Peter Gade won his first match against Yuichi Ikeda from Japan, 15-1 15-5! In the next round he will play against Lee Cheol Ho, who beat Xia Xuanze! :eek: :eek: :eek:
WHAT!!! Omg, this is getting worst by the day :crying: :crying:

Are u sure? Sori im not doubting you or anything but its UNBELIVABLE! Shocked...
...........
...........
;) Calm down already...

Anatolii
04-06-2005, 06:34 AM
Lee Cheol Ho, who beat Xia Xuanze! :eek: :eek: :eek:oh NO! who is THAT?? :crying:

i REFUSE to accept this!

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 06:36 AM
Dat's good!! Where did u get the result? How abt the match between Ronald Susilo and LCW? And between BCL and Gong Weijie?saw the news on a china website, hence they only report Lin Dan's victory. Dunno abt the rest... :(

Go Gade - where did u get the MS results from? Can share wif us the results of the rest of the MS matches?

Wow.. looks like lots of surprises coming in... :eek:

silvia
04-06-2005, 06:37 AM
oh NO! who is THAT?? :crying:

i REFUSE to accept this!

Gee, I think one of the korean player.............

AustrianPower
04-06-2005, 06:40 AM
Its on www.petergade.net (http://www.petergade.net). Lee won 15-2 and 15-12!!! WOW

Go Gade
04-06-2005, 06:41 AM
saw the news on a china website, hence they only report Lin Dan's victory. Dunno abt the rest... :(

Go Gade - where did u get the MS results from? Can share wif us the results of the rest of the MS matches?

Wow.. looks like lots of surprises coming in... :eek:Yes of course...:) www.petergade.net (http://www.petergade.net)

Bresis
04-06-2005, 06:43 AM
Peter Gade won his first match against Yuichi Ikeda from Japan, 15-1 15-5! In the next round he will play against Lee Cheol Ho, who beat Xia Xuanze! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Oh man!! This is bad!! :crying: Poor Xuanze..his place in the team is in jeopardy!!

Johansen
04-06-2005, 06:44 AM
Korean Lee Cheol Ho beat the reigning world champion Xia Xuanze of China 15-2, 15-12.

Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)

Anatolii
04-06-2005, 06:44 AM
Gee, I think one of the korean player.............weeelll, i sort of had an idea.. from the name..

oh no, porr thing :(

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 06:44 AM
hi thanks for the link...

big shock to know that XXZ lost in 2 games to the Korean...

but me more eager to see the result of Ronald vs LCW :p

Simp84
04-06-2005, 06:52 AM
hi thanks for the link...

big shock to know that XXZ lost in 2 games to the Korean...

but me more eager to see the result of Ronald vs LCW :p
haha its already expected XXZ will lose to unseeded player again...
Maybe he gave up on badminton already? :confused:

seven
04-06-2005, 06:55 AM
* Malaysian top pairs knocked out :
Chan/Koo lost to Boe/Mogensen 15-9 15-13
Chew/Choong lost to Liu/Njoto 15-5 3-15 15-12

* Some top pairs troubled :
Robertson/Blair win 7-15 15-9 15-11 against qualifiers Efraim/Mainaky
Rasmussen/Paaske win 11-15 15-11 15-12 against locals Ohtsuka/Masuda
Luluk/Alven win 15-5 11-15 15-9 against Prapakamol/Ngernsrisuk

* Funny pair :
Anggun Nugroho partnered Anthony Clark and cruised through to the second round, 15-7 15-8 against Lin/Lin from Taïpeï! :)

seven
04-06-2005, 07:00 AM
oh NO! who is THAT?? :crying:
Lee Cheol Ho is a top junior korean player, semi-finalist in 2004 Junior World Championships.

seven
04-06-2005, 07:02 AM
... can be found in this article : http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=10&ItemID=1756

It seemed that it was "premeditated"! ;)

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:02 AM
oh man... lots of upsets.... especially XXz.... unbelievable .....:eek: :eek: :eek:
good that all MAS MS went thru'

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:03 AM
where can i get the full results??? i din see the results of LCW's match ..

Go Gade
04-06-2005, 07:07 AM
where can i get the full results??? i din see the results of LCW's match ..http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ems.htm

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 07:11 AM
haiz.. Ronald lost as expected :( ....

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:17 AM
so all malaysians Ms ( except sairul )qualified for 3rd round??? correct me if im wrong ...

aiyuuw
04-06-2005, 07:17 AM
* Malaysian top pairs knocked out :
Chan/Koo lost to Boe/Mogensen 15-9 15-13
Chew/Choong lost to Liu/Njoto 15-5 3-15 15-12

* Some top pairs troubled :
Robertson/Blair win 7-15 15-9 15-11 against qualifiers Efraim/Mainaky
Rasmussen/Paaske win 11-15 15-11 15-12 against locals Ohtsuka/Masuda
Luluk/Alven win 15-5 11-15 15-9 against Prapakamol/Ngernsrisuk

* Funny pair :
Anggun Nugroho partnered Anthony Clark and cruised through to the second round, 15-7 15-8 against Lin/Lin from Taïpeï! :) why are they paired up? which country are they representing? i thought he was playing mxd and representing indo

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 07:18 AM
u r right... all 6 qualified...

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:21 AM
u r right... all 6 qualified...
8 3rd round matches and Malaysia has 6 of em' playing ... wondering if malaysians are starting to conquer MS... not bad for malaysians in the past few tournaments..

seven
04-06-2005, 07:22 AM
why are they paired up? which country are they representing? i thought he was playing mxd and representing indo
Anggun Nugroho is replacing Simon Archer (Clark's regular partner), I don't know how this happened!
They are not representing any country, they're just an INA/ENG pair...

Badmincraze
04-06-2005, 07:24 AM
8 3rd round matches and Malaysia has 6 of em' playing ... wondering if malaysians are starting to conquer MS... not bad for malaysians in the past few tournaments..
but a big setback for msia MD i think... :(

rwchen
04-06-2005, 07:25 AM
Malaysian players reigns in MS so far, five players went through to the last sixteen. There will be a number of appealing matches tomorrow. It will be Malaysia vs China in three matches , let's see who will dominate.

Wong CH vs Chen Yu
Roslin Hashim vs Chen Hong
Lee TS vs Lin Dan

Lee CW and Hafiz won convincingly today, Lee CW should have no problem beating Bjoern Joppien while a tough match is awaiting Hafiz, taking on Kenneth Janasson.

The rest of the encounters should see the higher ranked players to advance, namely Peter Gade ( vs Lee CH (Kor)), Taufit Hidayat ( vs Kuan BH), Bao CL (vs N Ng Wei).

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:26 AM
but a big setback for msia MD i think... :(
yeah .... dont seem to have any promising ones .... looked promising in the past tournaments tho'

rwchen
04-06-2005, 07:28 AM
I was wrong, it should be six players in the last sixteen.

[QUOTE=rwchen]Malaysian players reigns in MS so far, five players went through to the last sixteen. There will be a number of appealing matches tomorrow. It will be Malaysia vs China in three matches , let's see who will dominate.

aiyuuw
04-06-2005, 07:29 AM
Anggun Nugroho is replacing Simon Archer (Clark's regular partner), I don't know how this happened!
They are not representing any country, they're just an INA/ENG pair... never thought that it was possible, weird,,,awfully weird,,,,,,cool tho, that they can play together just fine

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:37 AM
never thought that it was possible, weird,,,awfully weird,,,,,,cool tho, that they can play together just fine
it happens in tennis tho' :)

Anatolii
04-06-2005, 07:42 AM
a tough match is awaiting Hafiz, taking on Kenneth Janasson.
again? :p and so early in the tournament :D.

wl2172
04-06-2005, 07:50 AM
so all malaysians Ms ( except sairul )qualified for 3rd round??? correct me if im wrong ...

Good run...hopefully most of them can get pass tomorrow.

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 07:57 AM
again? :p and so early in the tournament :D.but with his form now ....i think e can beat anyone in this competition

wl2172
04-06-2005, 08:06 AM
but with his form now ....i think e can beat anyone in this competition

I hope he can do it twice in a row....however, Hafiz did struggle to get pass Anders.

FEND.
04-06-2005, 08:10 AM
lol. I reckon hafiz will beat KJ in 3 sets.....

xijiayu
04-06-2005, 08:11 AM
Although Malaysians occupy 6 out of 16 in third round, I am doubt if we could get more than 3 players go into 1/8. I hope LCW, Hafiz, WCH will live up to their seeding. Roslin is difficult against Chen Hong, but not impossible. LTS and KBH have miles to go if they want any upsets.

Too bad YKB did'n't upset KJ after two tight games and Sairul retired after first game.

seven
04-06-2005, 08:21 AM
never thought that it was possible, weird,,,awfully weird,,,,,,cool tho, that they can play together just fine
It is possible (though rare) to mix countries in any individual events, except the olympics.
I just don't know how they had the idea of replacing Archer with Nugroho however... :confused:

xijiayu
04-06-2005, 08:23 AM
Lee Cheol Ho is a top junior korean player, semi-finalist in 2004 Junior World Championships.
While Chinese and Korean junior players from WJC 2004 have started to make impact on senior level, Malaysian junior players are still in the backup team and kept for Satellit tournaments only! I really hope they should let our WJ MD champion be in senior team. This would be very much helpful for them as they can train with higher skills seniors and play in more competitive matches. We don't want another ChanCM in Malaysia team then.

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 08:36 AM
While Chinese and Korean junior players from WJC 2004 have started to make impact on senior level, Malaysian junior players are still in the backup team and kept for Satellit tournaments only! I really hope they should let our WJ MD champion be in senior team. This would be very much helpful for them as they can train with higher skills seniors and play in more competitive matches. We don't want another ChanCM in Malaysia team then.yeah .. i agree... malaysia's MD are great at WJ ... but they never improve after that ..

jug8man
04-06-2005, 09:24 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ems.htm

round1 MS results are out!


malaysian MS looking strong (so far)

6 malaysians in the 3rd round......... and featuring in 6 out of the 8 matches to be contested tomorrow :)

all look like juicy matches.... the esp extra juicy one's seem to be;

hafiz vs KJ........ the thai open finals rematch you have been asking for!

roslin vs chen hong.......... anything with one of these two makes a good match! will having two in a the same match make it great? tune in tomorrow for the results! :D ;)

Kuan Beng Hong vs Taufik should garner much interest. how will misbun's latest apprentice (@ malaysian hariyanto arbi) fare againts the current indonesian man to beat: Taufik Hidayat!

should be a good day for badminton tomorrow


8man

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 09:29 AM
malaysian MS looking strong (so far)

6 malaysians in the 3rd round......... and featuring in 6 out of the 8 matches to be contested tomorrow :)

all look like juicy matches.... the esp extra juicy one's seem to be;

hafiz vs KJ........ the thai open finals rematch you have been asking for!

roslin vs chen hong.......... anything with one of these two makes a good match! will having two in a the same match make it great? tune in tomorrow for the results! :D ;)

Kuan Beng Hong vs Taufik should garner much interest. how will misbun's latest apprentice (@ malaysian hariyanto arbi) fare againts the current indonesian man to beat: Taufik Hidayat!

should be a good day for badminton tomorrow


8man
why is KBH malaysia's hariyanto arbi:confused: :confused: , any similarities?? just wondering:o :o

jug8man
04-06-2005, 09:37 AM
why is KBH malaysia's hariyanto arbi:confused: :confused: , any similarities?? just wondering:o :o


to tell you the truth..... i personaly havent seen his matches (much?)

this is just what the local papers have been calling him.... "that his play was similar to hariyanto...." or something like that. based on somebody's observation and comment. one of the coaches or some1 'quote-able' in the malaysian badminton scene i think.

on a side note......... KBH has said publicly in the local papers that 'misbun instill's lots of confidence and self belief' in his own abilities.......... that and being made to 'wipe the training floor' (ie training is good and hard :D )

cheers

8man

MadaMadaDane
04-06-2005, 09:43 AM
to tell you the truth..... i personaly havent seen his matches (much?)

this is just what the local papers have been calling him.... "that his play was similar to hariyanto...." or something like that. based on somebody's observation and comment. one of the coaches or some1 'quote-able' in the malaysian badminton scene i think.

on a side note......... KBH has said publicly in the local papers that 'misbun instill's lots of confidence and self belief' in his own abilities.......... that and being made to 'wipe the training floor' (ie training is good and hard :D )

cheers

8man

ic ic .... well, hopefully he can become as fearful as hariyanto arbi once was... wat i liked bout arbi was his beautiful jumping smashes... as pretty to watch as hafiz's super smash ...

wl2172
04-06-2005, 10:02 AM
Kuan is quick...really quick. However, he still needs to improve on his precision play.

However, the time I watched him during the AE2005 was against Lee CW, and he went down quite tamely as Chong Wei just overwhelmed him in every aspect. The points that he got were mainly through CW's mistakes.

badders fan
04-06-2005, 10:16 AM
Remember the English coach is Rexy Mainaky so he probably knows Nugruho to ask him to enter with one of his good players who is without a partner

seven
04-06-2005, 10:29 AM
Remember the English coach is Rexy Mainaky so he probably knows Nugruho to ask him to enter with one of his good players who is without a partner
You're right!:) how didn't I think of that! ;)

happy go lucky
04-06-2005, 11:13 AM
yes CCM and Chew Choon Eng should be discarded. They are overrated. Only one Japan Open title to show......They had Park Joo Bong as their coach. Dunno what's going on with the duo? Bring on Tan Boon Heong/ Hoon Tian How :) While Chinese and Korean junior players from WJC 2004 have started to make impact on senior level, Malaysian junior players are still in the backup team and kept for Satellit tournaments only! I really hope they should let our WJ MD champion be in senior team. This would be very much helpful for them as they can train with higher skills seniors and play in more competitive matches. We don't want another ChanCM in Malaysia team then.

jamesd20
04-06-2005, 11:18 AM
Remember the English coach is Rexy Mainaky so he probably knows Nugruho to ask him to enter with one of his good players who is without a partner

Robertson Played against him in mixed at AE, may have been introduced then.

Any country can play with any other, I tihnk it is a good thing, as makes the game more commercial, less country based.


I dont understand why Robertson would retire from Mixed with Injury, where he has chance of winning, but play in MD, of which he has No (well, a slim) chance? :confused: :confused:

Shame about Xia. Think probably wont go to WC now. Maybe forced to play Japan because contracted to play JO. Or his mind may have gone now he sees he has no chance to go, and sees the end of the road. Still have faith though, especially since Chen Jin lost.

seven
04-06-2005, 11:26 AM
I dont understand why Robertson would retire from Mixed with Injury, where he has chance of winning, but play in MD, of which he has No (well, a slim) chance? :confused: :confused:
Robertson is already sure to qualify for the WC in MX.

But he really needs points in MD where him and Robert Blair are only 28th in the world rankings, with points from only seven events for the moment. (new pair)

This is why he is concentrating on MD rather than MX.

hcpoirot
04-06-2005, 11:29 AM
I dont understand why Robertson would retire from Mixed with Injury, where he has chance of winning, but play in MD, of which he has No (well, a slim) chance? :confused: :confused:

Shame about Xia. Think probably wont go to WC now. Maybe forced to play Japan because contracted to play JO. Or his mind may have gone now he sees he has no chance to go, and sees the end of the road. Still have faith though, especially since Chen Jin lost.
From what I read, Robertson had a light shoulder injury. Cause he and Emms already guarantee a place XD in World C, he retired from that number. And concentrate in MD where he still had to fight to qualify to World C.

About Xia. I think he really at the low point of his career, lost to a junior player. China will only had 3 MS in World C cause it obvious Xia can't make it to Top 8 World Ranking at end of April.

Only a country who had 4 singles/doubles Top 8 ranking can send 4 singles/doubes to World C.

ants
04-06-2005, 11:31 AM
It will be a shame if no Msian in the semis.

hcpoirot
04-06-2005, 11:32 AM
Another suprise! Chong/ Chew lost to Hong Kong pairs! This is realy shocking.

hcpoirot
04-06-2005, 11:35 AM
Malaysia chances to qualify to group 1 in Sudirman Cup become smaller now with their losses in MD and another loss in WD. Wong/Chin lost to unfamous pair from Japan, Ogura/Shiota.

02011953
04-06-2005, 11:38 AM
Spare a thought for the poor World Champion. He lost in Rd 2 to the Korean youngster Lee Choel Ho who qualified. He seems to have forgotten how to win. Remember Ji Xin Peng who took a dive after the 2000 Olympics title and could not recover.

The top seed in XD Robertson/Emms withdrew after a few points vs Zhengbo/Huang Sui. This will raise the hopes of the 2 top Chinese pairs.

Y

mirrura
04-06-2005, 11:40 AM
Another suprise! Chong/ Chew lost to Hong Kong pairs! This is realy shocking.

Seems like after Kim Hock has become the head coach, his MD's form has been deterioriting. Too much workload?? :confused:

jamesd20
04-06-2005, 01:54 PM
Good point about XD ENG pair. Didnt think of that.

Xia can still make it. As I said players are contracted to play in JO, and may be carrying a slight injury. He has been suceptible perviousley.

hcpoirot
04-06-2005, 03:00 PM
The Korean after Lee Hyun Il and Song Sheung Mo, theyhad quite strong player in Park Sung Hwan. Could Lee CH who beat XXZ be the newest star from Korea? If he can beat Peter Gade in R16 , he probably proved he can become a star in the future. If not, it mean that XXZ play sloppy when he lost to Lee CH.

Other interesting fight, Kenneth VS Hafiz. Can KJ beat the Malaysian this time?

Chen Yu VS WCH. The two of them didn't play at their best level recently.

Roslin VS Chen Hong. Probably a tough match but Chen HOng will make it to the QF.

AS for other, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Lee Chong Wei, Taufik will sail to QF rather easily.

SteveStanley
04-06-2005, 03:54 PM
And, Anggun was picked because he just lost in XD ... not sure about the timing though.

Remember the English coach is Rexy Mainaky so he probably knows Nugruho to ask him to enter with one of his good players who is without a partner

jamesd20
04-06-2005, 04:35 PM
Chen Yu VS WCH. The two of them didn't play at their best level recently.

Roslin VS Chen Hong. Probably a tough match but Chen HOng will make it to the QF.

Lee Chong Wei will sail to QF rather easily.

Chen Yu and WCH got a lot of pressure on them. Both need to prove they are up to it to their coaches. WCH possible more to Goto WC-chen yu got no chance. But Chen Yu fighting for place in team.

Roslin can frustrate CH, but not take the initiative to take the game.

Must be nice for MAL fans to hear a MS player "sailing through to the quarters"

wl2172
04-06-2005, 06:45 PM
Must be nice for MAL fans to hear a MS player "sailing through to the quarters"

It would be nicer to see it really happening....hahahaha :)

rwchen
04-06-2005, 09:09 PM
again? :p and so early in the tournament :D.
Yes, the match between Hafix and Jonasson is scheduled in this afternoon ( japan time). It's a five star tournament, even the third round will see some tough matches .

hcyong
04-06-2005, 09:45 PM
MS (Last 16)
Lin Dan v Lee TS (Lin just too good)
Bao v Ng Wei (Bao just too good)
Kenneth v Hafiz (tough fight, Hafiz has psychological edge but Ken will ignore)
Lee CW v Joppien (Lee just too good)
Chen Yu v Wong CH (hard to tell, think Wong is good enough to win)
Roslin v Chen Hong (on All-England form, Chen is favourite but expect a fight)
Kuan BH v Taufik (Taufik just too good)
Lee CH v Peter Gade (Peter should take it but must be careful)
Most of the matches have certain characteristics that make them interesting.

WS (1st round & Last 16)
The seeds are favourites to advance to the quarterfinals. But ...
Zhou Mi has to contend with Yonekura and then either Tine or Seo
Pi Hongyan will have to careful around Hirose
Xie Xingfang may have Mori as her second round opponent but should be minor matter for her

MD (Last 16)
Eriksen/Lundgaard v Guo/Xie (Danes just too good)
Gunawan/Bach v Boe/Mogensen (tough fight; I think Danes will win)
Fu/Cai v Nugroho/Clark (Chinese just too good)
Flandi/Eng v Kidho/Setiawan (hard to say; I think Indons will win :) )
Robertson/Blair v Sang/Zheng (Chinese just too good)
Tazari/Lin v Paaske/Rasmussen (Danes just too good)
Jung/Lee v Chandra/Sigit (match of the day; 50-50)
Liu/Njoto v Luluk/Alven (Indons just too good)

WD (Last 16)
Looks obvious that all the seeds will advance to the QFinals.
Two matches have no seeds:
Hallam/Munt v Ogiura/Shiota (the Japanese dispatched of Chin/Wong rather easily, today we shall see if that was due to Japanese strength or Malaysian weakness)
Hwang Yu Mi/Jun Woul Sik v Louisa Koon/Li Wing Mui (Koreans should take it)

XD (Last 16)
Zheng/Huang v Xie/Zhang (does not matter who wins it)
Zhang/Gao v Clark/Kellogg (Chinese too good)
Sudket/Saralee v Koo/Wong (Malaysians have no other distractions; may be a close affair, but I think the Thais will win it anyhow)
Mogensen/Olsen v Laybourn/Juhl (Laybourn/Juhl favourites)
Hwang/Hwang v Widianto/Natsir (Indones just too good)
Denney/Wilson v Chen/Zhao (Chinese just too good)
Lamp/Harder v Saputra/Li (Singaporeans just too good)
Lee/Lee v Eriksen/Schjoldager (by far, the XD match of the day; I think the Danes will turn the table on the Koreans this time)

hcyong
04-06-2005, 11:23 PM
XD (Last 16)
Zheng/Huang v Xie/Zhang (does not matter who wins it)
Zhang/Gao v Clark/Kellogg (Chinese too good)
Sudket/Saralee v Koo/Wong (Malaysians have no other distractions; may be a close affair, but I think the Thais will win it anyhow)
Mogensen/Olsen v Laybourn/Juhl (Laybourn/Juhl favourites)
Hwang/Hwang v Widianto/Natsir (Indones just too good)
Denney/Wilson v Chen/Zhao (Chinese just too good)
Lamp/Harder v Saputra/Li (Singaporeans just too good)
Lee/Lee v Eriksen/Schjoldager (by far, the XD match of the day; I think the Danes will turn the table on the Koreans this time)

Results are in.
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Xie/Zhang defeated Zheng/Huang
Mogensen/Olsen defeated Danish champions
Lamp/Harder gave more reason for Danes to cheer
Other than that, my predictions were right. Lee/Lee could not repeat their Korean Open feat.


I don't know why they insist on staging the XD first if two rounds are to be held for another event. They should hold the WS event first. Yesterday, they should have held the MS first to give the players more time before having to play again.

hcyong
04-07-2005, 12:55 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ews.htm

Lu Lan defeated Mia in 3 close games
Yonekura defeated Zhou Mi in straight games
Rasmussen beat Seo
Jiang Yanjiao defeated Salakjit
Tracey Hallam defeated Kaori Mori

This event is more open than I thought.

seven
04-07-2005, 03:00 AM
http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=231436

Gunawan/Bach beat Boe/Mogensen convincingly 15-6 15-13 (it's at least the third time)
Kidho/Setiawan beat teammates Eng/Flandy 11-15 15-10 17-16 !!! :eek:
Candra/Sigit beat Lee/Jung 15-11 13-15 15-7
Robertson/Blair retired... :rolleyes: (conceding a W.O. to Sang/Zheng)

Nothing notable elsewhere as Eriksen/Lundgaard, Fu/Cai, Paaske/Rasmussen, Alven/Luluk all advanced without trouble.

hcyong
04-07-2005, 03:31 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewd.htm

Japanese pairs on fire.
Maeda/Suetsuna defeated Saralee/Sathinee (Thais have match point in 2nd set). Ogura/Shiota defeated Hallam/Munt, also in rubber game. The Japanese meet each other tomorrow so we are guaranteed one Japanese pair in the SFinals.
Yang/Zhang, Olsen/Schjoldager, Gao/Huang, Lee/Lee all went through with ease.
Koreans Hwang/Jun defeated the Hong Kong pair in 3 sets.
Wei/Zhao had to win the 2nd set 17-16 to defeat Novita/Polii

Anatolii
04-07-2005, 03:35 AM
i believe there's another thread that's been started for today's matches.

hcyong
04-07-2005, 04:33 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ems.htm

Lin, Bao, Lee CW and Peter Gade breezed through. All other Malaysians bite the dust. It looks like Lee CW is the sole Malaysian flag-bearer for the tournament (assuming Wong MC loses to Zhang Ning).
After losing the first set 17-14, Hafiz retired against Kenneth at what looks like 8-8 in the second set. Hopefully, it's nothing too serious.
Taufik beat Kuan 9 and 11, not too bad for Kuan.
Chen Yu beat Roslin 15-9, 17-14.
And Chen Hong defeated Wong CH 15-7, 15-12.

02011953
04-07-2005, 05:34 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ews.htm

Lu Lan defeated Mia in 3 close games
Yonekura defeated Zhou Mi in straight games
Rasmussen beat Seo
Jiang Yanjiao defeated Salakjit
Tracey Hallam defeated Kaori Mori

This event is more open than I thought.
I mentioned Zhou's decline when the draw came out but later when someone said the English players were getting bad draws, I pointed to her's as an example where top players get no special treatment. It was a horrendous draw - facting 3 players previously in the top 10.
I did not expect Mia to lose although it was just a point difference, but Jiang beating Salakit was a very high possibility. y

hcyong
04-07-2005, 05:47 AM
http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ews.htm

The Chinese dominates. There will be 5 of them in the WS Qfinals.
Zhang (11-8, 13-11 - not a bad score for Wong MC) and Xie (11-0, 13-12) unsurpringly advanced.
Lu Lan thrashed Xing Aiying 4 & 0.
Jiang Yanjiao thrashed Yao Jie 4 & 3 :eek:
Zhu Lin bt Xu Huaiwen 5 & 11 :eek:
Arrival of the new brigade? Never mind if Zhou Mi has an off day. Others will resume her duties.

Other than the Chinese,
Wang Chen bt Elizabeth Cann
Yonekura by Tine Rasmussen
Pi Hongyan took 3 sets to beat Hirose (she is the sole non-Asian representative)

02011953
04-07-2005, 08:21 AM
The QF line-up is now completed

In MS two matches will be between Chinese players Lin/Bao, ChenY/ChenH
The only missing seeds: Wong CH. (Xia was already down to No.10)

The WS brought out the 3 young Chinese, Zhu Lin, LuLan. Jiang to the fore. The old war horses folded Xu (33 yrs) and Yao (30 - she was R-U in XD in 1994 when Wang Chen won the WS). I hope the Chinese play these youngsters more to get them used to the opposition and the competition.

MD The usual line-up except EngHina/Limpele exit by Setiawan/Khido - the latter in the WJC only two years ago.

WD Again no surprises: exit for the Malaysians (6) and English (8) who had never been in the same league as the 4 Chinese pairs and the Korean Lees.
The Thai No.4 seed also lost to a Japanese pair. GaoL/HuangS' win over ZhangD/ZhangYw (6,6) suggests the gap in level although the Zhangs may be in the top 5. They won't get to the WC even if they are in the top 8 because only 3 pairs are allowed doubles.

XD After the exit of Robertson/Emms, the R-up in AE also fell to compatriots Morgensen/Olsen. Blair/Munt (8) lost, but they are unknowns. The surprise was the LIyujia/Saputra did not capitalise on it leaving the old Danish pair of Lamp/Harder to get through from the qualifiers. Xie/ZhangYw have a chance to earn their spurs against veterans GaoL/ZhangJ.

LYB has to do something to avoid so many Chinese players/pairs knocking out their kinsmen.
Y

seven
04-07-2005, 08:34 AM
GaoL/HuangS' win over ZhangD/ZhangYw (6,6) suggests the gap in level although the Zhangs may be in the top 5. They won't get to the WC even if they are in the top 8 because only 3 pairs are allowed doubles.
No, you are wrong there : there is no difference between singles and doubles qualification process for the world champs.
If China has four WD pairs in the top 8, all four pairs will qualify for the world champs.
(http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/documents/wldchmps_elig.PDF)

Therefore Zhang/Zhang are very likely to qualify for the world champs!

02011953
04-08-2005, 01:12 AM
No, you are wrong there : there is no difference between singles and doubles qualification process for the world champs.
If China has four WD pairs in the top 8, all four pairs will qualify for the world champs.
(http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/documents/wldchmps_elig.PDF)

Therefore Zhang/Zhang are very likely to qualify for the world champs!
If that is the rule then they'll make it.They were No.4 up to AE but lost points by missing the German, AE and Swiss Opens. I described them in the Siam Open as seeking points to keep in the top 8 for the WC but thought better (and wrong) of it in writing the comment above. They and the Lees are only other certain pairs apart from the 3 Chinese 'veterans'. Santinee/Saralee are next but brittle; the others are erratic. The Japanese are trying desparately and a pair might slip in, so might a 2nd Korean pair though none is in sight.
Y