MS
Lin Dan v Bao Chunlai
Kenneth Jonassen v Lee Chong Wei
Chen Hong v Chen Yu
Taufik Hidayat v Peter Gade Christiansen (match of the day)
I would say that the only certainty is Chen Hong triumphing. For the others, I install Lin Dan, Lee CW and Taufik as the favourites, if only just.

WS
Zhang Ning v Lu Lan
Wang Chen v Yonekura (match of the day)
Pi Hongyan v Zhu Lin
Xie Xingfang v Jiang Yanjiao
Almost a carbon-copy of the MS, with two all-Chinese ties. I don't think the youngsters can upstage their seniors yet. So, Zhang and Xie should have no troubles. But Pi must be careful because Zhu managed to defeat Xu easily. I still favour Pi though. Wang against Yonekura is more or less 50-50 since this is a home match for the Japanese. My gut feeling is that Yonekura will win today.

MD
Eriksen/Lungaard v Bach/Gunawan
Fu/Cai v Kidho/Setiawan
Sang/Zheng v Paaske/Rasmussen
Chandra/Sigit v Luluk/Alven
Predictions much easier than MS. I favour the Danes, Fu/Cai and Luluk/Alven.

WD
Yang/Zhang v Olsen/Schjoldager
Gao/Huang v Lee/Lee (match of the day)
Ogura/Shiota v Maeda/Suetsuna
Wei/Zhao v Huang/Jun
Yang/Zhang and Wei/Zhao should have few problems. For the Japanese, looking at the scores and opponents in this tournament so far, Maeda/Suetsuna looks slight favourites, but does it matter who wins? Lee/Lee still have yet to resist the Chinese domination, and this is the best chance for them to do it, but I think Gao/Huang will win.

XD
Xie/Zhang v Zhang/Gao
Sudket/Saralee v Mogensen/Olsen
Nova/Lilyana v Chen/Zhao (match of the day)
Lamp/Harder v Eriksen/Schjoldager
This looks like a tournament for Zhang/Gao to lose. They should dispatch of their compatriots without much problems. Eriksen/Schjoldager likewise. I slightly favour the Danes over the Thais. And I think the Indons will beat the Chinese.

Matches underway!!

How is it going?? Who is winning the mixed doubles??

JR

Matches underway!!

How is it going?? Who is winning the mixed doubles??

JR
Whoa :eek: ! Aren't you playing right now? How did you manage to get online?

:D :D :cool:

I always have time for you!!

I just brought the computer with me on court :eek:

No, we have free internet in our room here in Tokyo!

We´re playing 17.30 local time and I just wanted to know how the matches went!!

Kind Regards

JR

Whoa :eek: ! Aren't you playing right now? How did you manage to get online?
That's exactly what I thought!! :eek: Jonas, I think you'll get the latest results before us as the JO website only update results after the whole round is finished.

Ohh!!

I didn´t know that. I hoped you could tell me.

Remember to bid for Laybourn and my t-shirts in the charity auction forum. Only 2 more days to go before we have a winner!!

Talk to you after our match later on.

Kind Regards

Jonas

Ohh!!

I didn´t know that. I hoped you could tell me.

Remember to bid for Laybourn and my t-shirts in the charity auction forum. Only 2 more days to go before we have a winner!!

Talk to you after our match later on.

Kind Regards

Jonas

Good luck with your match.

Joseph

That's exactly what I thought!! :eek: Jonas, I think you'll get the latest results before us as the JO website only update results after the whole round is finished.

wow, izzit Jonas representing ur country and playing at the Japan Open?

XD
Xie/Zhang v Zhang/Gao
Sudket/Saralee v Mogensen/Olsen
Nova/Lilyana v Chen/Zhao (match of the day)
Lamp/Harder v Eriksen/Schjoldager
This looks like a tournament for Zhang/Gao to lose. They should dispatch of their compatriots without much problems. Eriksen/Schjoldager likewise. I slightly favour the Danes over the Thais. And I think the Indons will beat the Chinese.

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Wow... unbelievable. I got it all wrong except for Eriksen/Schjoldager winning. Chen/Zhao took the third set 15-6, but the others won rather comfortably in straight sets. So, the semis will be

Xie/Zhang v Sudket/Saralee
Chen/Zhao v Eriksen/Schjoldager

Some time ago, we thought the Chinese are having trouble with their mixed pairs. Who are we to doubt.

any results so far? :rolleyes:

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Wow... unbelievable. I got it all wrong except for Eriksen/Schjoldager winning. Chen/Zhao took the third set 15-6, but the others won rather comfortably in straight sets. So, the semis will be

Xie/Zhang v Sudket/Saralee
Chen/Zhao v Eriksen/Schjoldager

Some time ago, we thought the Chinese are having trouble with their mixed pairs. Who are we to doubt.
I pointed this out when the draw came out. I also said in another thread on the QF lineup that Xie/Zhang can earn their spurs against the old geysers. Zhang/Gao have forgotten how to win. I have no great expectations of Chen/Zhao as I don't think much of Zhao's game either in XD or WD and Chen himself is prone to simple reflex errors when paying flick shots from behind midcourt. y

wow, izzit Jonas representing ur country and playing at the Japan Open?
No no..he's Jonas rasmussen from Denmark..I'm from Malaysia..so he's not represnting my country and yes he's playing in the JO in the MD event :)

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Two surprises :
Xie/Zhang beat Zhang Gao !!!!! (15-5 15-12)
Chen/Zhao beat Nova/Lilyana 15-13 7-15 15-6 !!

Other results as expected :
Sudket/Saralee beat Mogensen/Olsen 15-12 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager beat Lamp/Harder 15-1 15-12

ahhhh,,,im dissaponited, no INA represetative in xdhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gif
anyway, any other results?
yea, jonas, i thought being there and all u can get first hand info before we dohttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Wow... unbelievable. I got it all wrong except for Eriksen/Schjoldager winning. Chen/Zhao took the third set 15-6, but the others won rather comfortably in straight sets. So, the semis will be

Xie/Zhang v Sudket/Saralee
Chen/Zhao v Eriksen/Schjoldager

Some time ago, we thought the Chinese are having trouble with their mixed pairs. Who are we to doubt.
Quite surprised with Xie/Zhang's win over Zhang/Gao, Li Yong Bo might have mixed feeling as Zhang/Gao is more experienced if they were to make into the final.

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/exd.htm

Two surprises :
Xie/Zhang beat Zhang Gao !!!!! (15-5 15-12)
Chen/Zhao beat Nova/Lilyana 15-13 7-15 15-6 !!

Other results as expected :
Sudket/Saralee beat Mogensen/Olsen 15-12 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager beat Lamp/Harder 15-1 15-12
Good for Sudket/Saralee who lost last week on the last point of the final set. Xie/Zhao and Nova/Lilyana are the pairs for the future. The Thais willl do for a few more years; the others will keep till the SC and WC.
Forecast: Ericksen/Schjoldager are the most solid; they handily beat Lee/Lee in Rd 2.
I would like a China/China F but they both are underdogs, so it will have to be a surprise ending - a breakthrough for Xie/Zhang who have WJC pedigree in all doubles disciplines but lack match practice.

Y

I have no great expectations of Chen/Zhao. yi always felt the pair's real problem is that they tend to lax when they feel their at a comfortable score ahead of the opponent, thus allowing the others to level up the points.. and that's when those mistakes come pouring through, and we know the rest. :rolleyes: but as this weakness is not like some malignant disease... i have hopes for them. :)

Quite surprised with Xie/Zhang's win over Zhang/Gao, Li Yong Bo might have mixed feeling as Zhang/Gao is more experienced if they were to make into the final.
Very mixed but also maybe a sigh of relief to find a probable NO.3 XD. Xie/Zhang have the very best Doubles and Mixed junior track records since 2000 - as good a Zhangb/SangY.They luckily avoided Robertson/Emms in Rd 2 and now have created their own chance to be the next top Chinese XD pair. If they get through to the F, LYB will not return to the Xie/YuYang formation. Perhaps GuoZd/Du or the original Guo/Yu (WJC XD 2002) to replace ChenQq/ZhaoTt. Y

Just looked at the world rankings and realised that Gong Ruina is currently not qualified for the WC, because she is ranked outside the top 8. So it's more surprising that she is not entered for the Japan Open.

Also Zhang/Zhang is barely qualifying for the WC, ranked number 8. How come they are not entered in the Japan Open?

Just looked at the world rankings and realised that Gong Ruina is currently not qualified for the WC, because she is ranked outside the top 8. So it's more surprising that she is not entered for the Japan Open.

Also Zhang/Zhang is barely qualifying for the WC, ranked number 8. How come they are not entered in the Japan Open?
It seemed that GongR does not want to play anymore but is not being allowed to retire.

Zhang/Zhang are now above NO. 8 as they lost the F in Siam O. Yesterday they played and lost 6,6 to Gao/Huang. In another thread (?) I commented that they have some way to catch up in level - due to not having a regular Team 1 place like the top 3 pairs. See comments in this thread (?) on their standing and whether 4 pairs are allowed for the WC if they are in the top 8.
Y

Just looked at the world rankings and realised that Gong Ruina is currently not qualified for the WC, because she is ranked outside the top 8. So it's more surprising that she is not entered for the Japan Open.

Also Zhang/Zhang is barely qualifying for the WC, ranked number 8. How come they are not entered in the Japan Open?

Comments on QongR in your original thread on the draw

Comments on Zhang/Zhang's yestderday's performance and ranking and WC place in your thread yesterday, page 7!!

Y

noooooo, Chong Wei lost to Jonassen 15-7 15-10
yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
lin dan beat bao,
chan hong beat chen yu

noooooo, Chong Wei lost to Jonassen 15-7 15-10
yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
lin dan beat bao,
chan hong beat chen yu

hard fought matches but i feel the results are warranted.
i applause PG for coming so close beating the gold medalist.
i really really like to see a taufik vs LD match :)

noooooo, Chong Wei lost to Jonassen 15-7 15-10
yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
lin dan beat bao,
chan hong beat chen yuTaufik vs Chen Hong in semis :D :D :D the draw couldnt be better for taufik

ps. hcyong looks like ur Juicy hypothetical finals will come true :D :D :D

The MS

Took a long time.

Lin bt Bao in 3; Jonassen bt Lee in 2; ChenH bt ChY in 2; Taufik bt Gade in 3


Really as expected given the track record. I think Gade's days may be numbered as younger players from the chasing pack are always getting him in the later stages.

Bao is good in the short game version but has not staying power as he loses self-confidence and gets tentative. The 2nd and 3rd sets were won by decisive margins. He must get over this jinx as he can beat Lin.

Final forecast: Lin vs ChenH - I know Chen's abysmal record vs Taufik but I'd like to bet against the odds.

y

noooooo, Chong Wei lost to Jonassen 15-7 15-10
yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
lin dan beat bao,
chan hong beat chen yu


i think chong wei still needs some time to adapt to li mao's coaching style.
i thought it would be a rubber game. perhaps he played below par today.

WD


Straightforward wins for the top 3 Chinese pairs plus Japanese Ogura/Shiota. The Lees have Gao/Huang a close fight but just fell short each time. The other Korean pair Hwang/Jun were much weaker losing 7,6 to Wei/Zhao?

Unfortunately no Gaol/Huang vs Zhang/Yang finals as they meet in the SF.

Finals: Gao/Huang to beat Wei/Zhao in straight sets.

Y

Three Chinese pairs and one Japanese pair march into the semifinal tomorrow. All games ended in stright sets. The match between Gao/Huang and Lee/Lee is close, 12 and 13. The Japanese top pair Ogura/Shiota will play Zhao/Wei.

The MS results dashed Malaysia's last hope, Lee Chong Wei but he achieved his target of at least making the semi-final.
So Taufik vs Chen Hong
Lin Dan vs Jonassen,
Lin Dan vs Taufik is on the cards, but their worthy opponents are in form too, the opposite may turn up too.

yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
I want to see this one!! :D
Was it televised? anyone recorded it?

oohhhhhh no Bao loss to Lin Dan AGAIN ... :crying:

noooooo, Chong Wei lost to Jonassen 15-7 15-10
yeaaaaaa! taufik beat Gade 15-13 12-15 15-12
lin dan beat bao,
chan hong beat chen yu

I want to see this one!! :D
Was it televised? anyone recorded it?
All the other matches took 45-48 minutes. This one was 96 minutes! Y

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ewd.htm

Tight match but Gao/Huang got through beating Lee/Lee 15-13 15-12
Other two chinese pair had no trouble : Yang/Zhang win 15-9 15-2 against the Danes, Wei/Zhao win 15-6 15-7 against second korean pair.
... and in the all-japanese QF, Ogura/Shiota beat their compatriots Maeda/Suetsuna 15-5 15-12.

The MS results dashed Malaysia's last hope, Lee Chong Wei but he achieved his target of at least making the semi-final.

He was in QFinal not semi-final mate. I can see that LCW still cannot adapt into Li Mao training regime. His form flopped so much. I feel skeptical when he lost to Jonassen in straight games. I don't mind if he lost but at least he should put some fight as he did when under Misbun.

I can see that LCW still cannot adapt into Li Mao training regime. His form flopped so much. how different is Li mao's regime to misbun's?:confused:

He was in QFinal not semi-final mate. I can see that LCW still cannot adapt into Li Mao training regime. His form flopped so much. I feel skeptical when he lost to Jonassen in straight games. I don't mind if he lost but at least he should put some fight as he did when under Misbun.Yes, I made the mistake, he did not fulfill his target.

MD:

Eriksen/Lundgaard bt Gunawan/Bach 15-11, 11-15, 15-9
Fu/Cai bt Kidho/Setiawan 15-9, 15-10
JR/Lars bt Sang/Zheng 15-4, 15-13
Candra/Sigit bt Hadiyanto/Alven 8-15, 15-8, 17-15

Semifinal lineup is thus:
Eriksen/Lundgaard vs Fu/Cai
JR/Lars vs Candra/Sigit

Both matches are hard to call, in my opinion. Eriksen/Lundgaard and Fu/Cai have one win each in their two last meetings, both 3-setters. My mind says that Fu/Cai win in 2 very close sets, but my heart says that the Danes win in their usual style: losing 1st game big, then savinmg a few match points in 2nd before winning that one, and then win 3rd game easy. :p :D

It's almost two years since Candra/Sigit met JR/Lars now. Both pairs have provided us with both positive and negative surprises during that time. JR/Lars had a poor start in this tournament, but seem to have gained momentum now: their win against Zhang/Seng was convincing. Yet, I have a feeling that they are still not performing 100%... And they need to bring out their absolute best in order to outmaneuver Candra/Sigit. No, I'm not even going to try to make a call on this one. Heart says it's a draw. :p

Yes, I made the mistake, he did not fulfill his target.

No, his target was the quarterfinals for the Japan Open, so he fulfilled it. I think he has the potential to exceed that target, but the most important thing is to at least justify your seeding first.

Which got me thinking ... in the MS QFinals, 7 out of 8 places went to the top 8 seeds, the only missing one was Wong CH losing out to Chen Yu. That's pretty unusual for such a highly-competitive event. In contrast, the WS (which is not unknown for obeying the seedings to the letter), only four QFinalists are seeded, 3 of the others are qualifiers.

Looks like our resident pro is on fire!!! w00t!!

MD:

Eriksen/Lundgaard bt Gunawan/Bach 15-11, 11-15, 15-9
Fu/Cai bt Kidho/Setiawan 15-9, 15-10
JR/Lars bt Sang/Zheng 15-4, 15-13
Candra/Sigit bt Hadiyanto/Alven 8-15, 15-8, 17-15

Both the semifinals are very interesting affairs. I think Fu/Cai will meet Jonas/Lars in the final.

wooooooaaa! im soooooooo happy! i was feeling down becos now is friday night and everybody seems to be busy, plus nova/lilyana losthttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/crying.gif
but now im happy! coolhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif, so, we have the sf lineups now right?

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ews.htm

Zhang and Xie had straight-forward victories.
Wang Chen lost the first set 11-6 against Yonekura but managed to slog out 11-9, 13-11 for the win.
Pi Hongyan also needed 3 sets to beat Zhu Lin.

Something tells me we'll see another Zhang-Xie final.

Both the semifinals are very interesting affairs. I think Fu/Cai will meet Jonas/Lars in the final.

Well, in that case I say the opposite: Eriksen/Larsen vs Candra/Sigit in the final!

:D

how different is Li mao's regime to misbun's?:confused:
I don't know exactly how's Li Mao training style but I'm pretty sure that Misbun training style is more physical fitness and very tough. In term of techniques, Misbun always saying that he will not change the natural techniques or skills of the players. What he does is try to sharpen up those techniques or skills.

LCW was at his best last year and getting stronger and stronger. Of course, for this year, everybody in Malaysia expects he'll goes further. He's known as a 'plastic man' and a fighter. This year, he lost to Hafiz in straight game for the first time in German Open. And went through into the semi final in All England (I think he was lucky enough coz no strongest players in his half before he met Roslin in Q-final) and lost to Chen Hong in straight game as well. Today he lost to Jonassen also in straight game. What has happened to him? He's one of the Malaysian hope beside Hafiz. :crying:

Well, in that case I say the opposite: Eriksen/Larsen vs Candra/Sigit in the final!

:D

I can see Chandra/Sigit having a chance but I can't be convinced that Jens/Martin can beat Fu/Cai tomorrow.

I notice Howard Bach and Tony Gunawan gave a good fight against Eriksen/Lundgaard, only bowing in three games 15-11 11-15 15-9.

They seem to be capable of competing with the very bests! (interesting for the World Champs...)

hmm I definetely think Chong wei is a good player but perhaps you are overating him a bit. Of course he won the malaysian open 04 and showedwhat talent he has but after that he hasnt proved that he is "mature" what the final in singapore showed us. There is nothing wrong with him, he's still in my opinion from the 5-8 best player curently and will in my opinion in a year or two perhaps be the top 3.. I dont think Gade is fading away, Gade will never be as good as from 98-01 because of that knee injury who prevents him from doing hard power training. We have to realise that, but I think he has gets better and better since the All England final 04. Losing to Taufik in a 95 battle in 3 hard sets isnt that bad.

Losing to Taufik in a 95 battle in 3 hard sets isnt that bad.
I heard that Taufik was diminished in that match (?), so it's maybe not so good... :rolleyes:

I still believe Gade is currently one of the top players in the world even so! :)

I heard that Taufik was diminished in that match (?), so it's maybe not so good... :rolleyes:

I still believe Gade is currently one of the top players in the world even so! :) well, lets just see it this way:
gade:-losing 95 mins and 3 sets to taufik no matter how his condition is is NOT bad, and it was VERY close indeed
-being world no.2 at his age and still can cope with younger players is GREAT
taufik:-as diminished as he was he still managed to get to semifinal in a 5* event with great line-ups, not every player able to accomplish that
-could win over pg who is one of the top players(and higher ranked than him) is not a easy task

well, lets just see it this way:
gade:-losing 95 mins and 3 sets to taufik no matter how his condition is is NOT bad, and it was VERY close indeed
-being world no.2 at his age and still can cope with younger players is GREAT
Yes, I agree. :)
Though Peter Gade is not so old, he is 28 and still has quite a few years at top level ahead of him if he avoids new injuries.

taufik:-as diminished as he was he still managed to get to semifinal in a 5* event with great line-ups, not every player able to accomplish that
-could win over pg who is one of the top players(and higher ranked than him) is not a easy task
Well, we all know Taufik is a real genius. He is simply out of this world! ;):D

Somehow, danish players are like good wine.... they get better with age :D.

Look at the evidence around you!! No disrespect to you JR and TL!! But I mean generally, Kenneth Jonassen is proof of that!

Somehow, danish players are like good wine.... they get better with age :D.

Look at the evidence around you!! No disrespect to you JR and TL!! But I mean generally, Kenneth Jonassen is proof of that!
Poul-Erik Hoyer-Larsen too! :)

Poul-Erik Hoyer-Larsen too! :)
Shall we add more?? Peter Gade, Peter Rasmussen? Although he was quite good in his younger days.... and then Jens Eriksen and Martin Lungaard...

Shall we add more?? Peter Gade, Peter Rasmussen? Although he was quite good in his younger days.... and then Jens Eriksen and Martin Lungaard...
I wouldn't put Peter Rasmussen in that list as he was very good as he was young (world champ in 97) and then was unfortunately injured most of the time in his later career... :(
True for the others.

http://www.u-netsurf.ne.jp/nichiba/2005/yoj/ews.htm

Zhang and Xie had straight-forward victories.
Wang Chen lost the first set 11-6 against Yonekura but managed to slog out 11-9, 13-11 for the win.
Pi Hongyan also needed 3 sets to beat Zhu Lin.

Something tells me we'll see another Zhang-Xie final.
Logic my dear friend, not 'something'. WangC has never beaten a higher ranked Chinese player till the the Indo O and that because the Chinese girls were in rebellion. ZhangN all the way.
Pi, is 28 and over the top and only makes SF if she meets mainly 2nd team/non-Chinese. Her time was the Ye Zy and GongZC when she got to the National Games finals (2002?). She is also too fat, probably also not training strictlly (like YaoJ and WangC). She was panting like a Persian cat after each low left frontside retrival partly because she goes right up to the shuttle instead of stretching and because of carrying all the extra weight.

I am surprised all the oldies won: shows the youngsters still have something to learn and one of them is expeirnce. For 3 qualifiies to get to QF in a major tournament is tops; so take note of these girls.
Zhu is best. Jiang is younger but got into a groove and couldn't change when facing Cheng Shao-chieh in the WJC SF; inflexible. LuLan was given w.o. by WangLin in SF to save her for the F but flopped 4,7 to Cheng. Lacks big match temperament like tonight. (I am thinking of ghosts of juniors WangRong and RongLu who also failed in this department.)

Final Zhang v Xie. Zhang will try to break the run, but I am afraid she'll lose.
Y

No, his target was the quarterfinals for the Japan Open, so he fulfilled it. I think he has the potential to exceed that target, but the most important thing is to at least justify your seeding first.

In contrast, the WS (which is not unknown for obeying the seedings to the letter), only four QFinalists are seeded, 3 of the others are qualifiers.
For a top 7 player to aim to get to QF where all the top players play is no ambition at all. So he is satisified and his supporters say its OK. It isn't OK at all. How low can you aim in life?? He must try at least for the Sf if not the F.

You put the point about the women's game very deftly and elegantly in double negative but many will miss your point. Simply, the women's results usually follow the seeding closely. True, but those 3 Chinese qualifiers are really as good as anyone after No. 4

Y

About Pi, she is only 26 in fact (born in january 79) and she trains full time at the french national centre, so I don't think she lacks training.
She obviously lacks quality sparring however and has to train with the men to get some opposition. :rolleyes:
I agree she can't seem to manage to get any further than SF in most tournaments, except at recent Swiss Open of course! ;)

For a top 7 player to aim to get to QF where all the top players play is no ambition at all. So he is satisified and his supporters say its OK. It isn't OK at all. How low can you aim in life?? He must try at least for the Sf if not the F.
His target was to reach QF, this doesn't mean that he didn't have the ambition to win the tournament! :D

About Pi, she is only 26 in fact (born in january 79) and she trains full time at the french national centre, so I don't think she lacks training.
She obviously lacks quality sparring however and has to train with the men to get some opposition. :rolleyes:
I agree she can't seem to manage to get any further than SF in most tournaments, except at recent Swiss Open of course! ;)
Ach! You caught me about her age - and talking about a woman too. Tsk tsk how ungalant. Sorry Mlle Pi. But she's French now and the French like their women a bit fuller, not mince, she's quite a Boticelli type now.

Maybe she has the fear factor. After the National Games R-u, she was banned from playing for Denmark (?) where she first emigrated and from the China Open. Now its OK. But she cannot play the rubber set with the top players. Rememeber Zhang doubling up in the front right forecourt after Xie sent one of her feints into the corner, at the end of one of those gruelling 30-stroke rallies in the AE? Can't see Pi playing that rally or the others.

Notice when GongR & ZhouM broke the regimen, their concentration and the quality of play fell. The results don't lie.
Y

02111953 please try to be respectful about players please.

As for LCW, I think he has done pretty well. MAL should not have too high hope for him. Saying he is off form is not true. You cannot expect him to win everytime. The biggest tournament is the WC, judg them then, but LCW is still very young.

Yes, with Tony Gunawan in there, one will *always* have a chance and most likely fight to the last set...It's all a matter of experince/playing more matches..Too bad, his partner HBach is not as "internationally experienced" as Tony is, which could affect the mind/mental game, add to that the lack of "quality" sparring partner(s) @ OCBC/U.S. in general..I think by the time WC comes around, both of them should be quite *seasoned* and if they meet JE/MLH again, they could get the best of them next time...

I notice Howard Bach and Tony Gunawan gave a good fight against Eriksen/Lundgaard, only bowing in three games 15-11 11-15 15-9.

They seem to be capable of competing with the very bests! (interesting for the World Champs...)

For a top 7 player to aim to get to QF where all the top players play is no ambition at all. So he is satisified and his supporters say its OK. It isn't OK at all. How low can you aim in life?? He must try at least for the Sf if not the F.
Y

I think it is also important to be realistic when setting targets. That does not mean that once you reach the target, you don't try to go beyond. In this instance, I am not that satisfied because I know he has it in him to beat Kenneth (no disrespect to Kenneth). But then again I was also very relieved that he went past Ronald Susilo in the second round, so if I knew before the tournament that he would reach the quarterfinals, I would have happily taken it.

Maybe it's just me and my under-achieving mental attitude, but it would do not good to keep failing to reach your target.

Zhang Jun has been injured before the German & All-England Opens that explain their below par performances in the MX events recently. Zhang/Gao also pulled out the English Master last weekend and now lost to their junior pair. So with his injury I'm not surprised with the above results.

But my point is how come an injured (his knee and then back as he claimed) Taufik with condition so bad that he didn't compete in German, All-England & Thai Opens and could beat Gade in 3 long games (95 mins) in the QF today?! I'm amazed and wonder how bad Taufik's injuries are? Perhaps his NEW TARGET NOW is to beat Chen Hong tomorrow and win the JP Open! But it won't look bad if he failed tomorrow since we all have been told just before this tournament that he has injuries. :rolleyes: Can anyone enlighten me/us when did ever a 100% Taufik vs a near 100% Gade in the past? (AE 1999 Final? OG 2004 QF? ...?)

Hope a 101% Taufik vs a 100% Chen tomorrow :)

Anyway, all credits to the winners and those put on good fight in the matches.

Enjoy badminton.

ken

yes, everyone basically is expecting this from the time the draw was released(some even predicted it will happen)..I have a feeling *IF* Taufik gets by ChenHong, I have a feeling he will win this tournament just for 1 main motivating reason->MONEY...If LinDan meets Taufik in the Final, it will be just the 3rd time both of them have met, and 2nd time in a neutral court(the other meeting in a neutral court was at the Asian Champ. in Phillippine in 2001)..However, I also have a feeling that *IF* Taufik wins vs. Lin Dan in the Final, he will lose against Lin Dan in the upcoming SC in Beijing..Then when WC comes around, Taufik will win it..
We shall see, here's hoping they'll meet again and it should be another great re-match..:).

hard fought matches but i feel the results are warranted.
i applause PG for coming so close beating the gold medalist.
i really really like to see a taufik vs LD match :)

I think Taufik was at 100% in the last Olympics for sure, I don't think Gade was at 100% though, he's never reached 100% after his knee injury - so far. Taufik is strugling with knee and back injuries, I hope he didn't get injury from his match against Gade.

There is a chance that Taufik will lose to Chen Hong this time, although I hope to see Lin Dan vs Taufik final. I've never seen their match before and still looking for their match from the last Indonesian Open Semifinal, but can't find it.

About Gade: 'considering - he's 28, he's had this operation and his knee etc etc. If the explanations are needed, you are explaining away why he lost here, there everywhere. That means he is not tops. Look at the results. Face it. He had his time and was great but is no longer.

LCW LD, Bao, Kuncorro - the 4 musketeers who contested the WJC SF in 2000. Of these only LD has a string of titles; the total of Kuncorro, Bao, and CW added together can be counted in one hand. That is how good or bad they are. Hafiz did not graduate from the Oxbridge of the WJC, but he's done better than these blue-blooded offsprings.All the same age.LD is outstanding; Hafiz has something more. The others are wanting something which they may or never learn.I bet on Kuncorro - the youngest.I've given up Bao,the oldest.

Sang/Zheng are in a whirlpool and cannot get out of the maelstrom; they go round and round and up to a crest but down again and round and round again. They are going the way of ChengRui, WangWei, ZhangWei i.e. getting nowhere.

Y

yes, I also wonder sometimes, is/are the injury(ies) "really severe" or just mentioned as to give somekind of "minor excuse"-thus if he lose he has an "excuse", if he wins, great he won with the "excuse"...I know "they're legit" and I'm not discrediting his admittance to the injury, but i noticed how Taufik now is playing more "mind games" cards, esp. after he won the OG Gold medal, in a degree I guess to put "less-pressure" on himself after he "promised he'll get the AE and WC" but can only fulfill one of them..


But my point is how come an injured (his knee and then back as he claimed) Taufik with condition so bad that he didn't compete in German, All-England & Thai Opens and could beat Gade in 3 long games (95 mins) in the QF today?! I'm amazed and wonder how bad Taufik's injuries are? Perhaps his NEW TARGET NOW is to beat Chen Hong tomorrow and win the JP Open! But it won't look bad if he failed tomorrow since we all have been told just before this tournament that he has injuries. :rolleyes: Can anyone enlighten me/us when did ever a 100% Taufik vs a near 100% Gade in the past? (AE 1999 Final? OG 2004 QF? ...?)
ken

LCW LD, Bao, Kuncorro - the 4 musketeers who contested the WJC SF in 2000. Of these only LD has a string of titles; the total of Kuncorro, Bao, and CW added together can be counted in one hand. That is how good or bad they are. Hafiz did not graduate from the Oxbridge of the WJC, but he's done better than these blue-blooded offsprings.All the same age.LD is outstanding; Hafiz has something more. The others are wanting something which they may or never learn.I bet on Kuncorro - the youngest.I've given up Bao,the oldest.
So what are two ABC titles and an Olympic Bronze Medal for you? :confused:

Though he is very good, Lin Dan still has to prove he can win major titles... (WC or OG)
Otherwise no one will remember him in 20 years time... :rolleyes:

So what are two ABC titles and an Olympic Bronze Medal for you? :confused:

Though he is very good, Lin Dan still has to prove he can win major titles... (WC or OG)
Otherwise no one will remember him in 20 years time... :rolleyes:

Agreed. Lin has a string a tournaments wins, but Only one AE, and nowhere in majors. Sony has more big tournaments success than Lin.

She is also too fat, probably also not training strictlly (like YaoJ and WangC). She was panting like a Persian cat after each low left frontside retrival partly because she goes right up to the shuttle instead of stretching and because of carrying all the extra weight.



Hongyan is fat??? waouu if she's fat what i am !!! a monster !!! i've seen her a lot of times !! she's not fat at all !! she has muscle it's a fact, but fat ... waouu maybe you have too many skinny person around you lol :rolleyes:

For a top 7 player to aim to get to QF where all the top players play is no ambition at all. So he is satisified and his supporters say its OK. It isn't OK at all. How low can you aim in life?? He must try at least for the Sf if not the F.

Y

Now thats a bit arrogant dont u think? :mad:

I'm sure Gade did his best. He always give his best shots, you can see it in his eyes especially when he lost. Going Vs Taufik isn't an easy task.

You are kinda insulting him when you say ''How low can you aim in life''. Gade has done alot for Danish badminton and badminton overall. He's always respectful and competitive.

I'm not sure whats goign on lately but it seems that there is a lot of tension between China supporter and Danish supporter but this statement it is very ''explicit'' and very irritating.

I'm really disapointed to heard this from a Bf'er... shame

Ach! You caught me about her age - and talking about a woman too. Tsk tsk how ungalant. Sorry Mlle Pi. But she's French now and the French like their women a bit fuller, not mince, she's quite a Boticelli type now.

Y

Whats the idea?? Sexist and racist at the same time? Wonder how come this guy is still able to post in the forum. :mad:

Come on guys, knock it off. Let's not go into unchartered waters or we'll have to bring to 'court' and settle it in a badminton duel!!!

Anyways, guys please be polite to each other and not make generalisations based on your opinions without facts to back it up.

Like this one



Ach! You caught me about her age - and talking about a woman too. Tsk tsk how ungalant. Sorry Mlle Pi. But she's French now and the French like their women a bit fuller, not mince, she's quite a Boticelli type now.

To 02011953, what exactly are you trying to do here.. express your dislike for french women for french nationality women. I do not know, but all I do know is that you have set some sparks off here.

Also, what you say bout peter gade is almost a bunch of bullocks. Have you forgotten that he burst onto the badminton scene when a couple of greats were in their peak? Do Sun Jun, Peter Rasmussen, Paul Hoyer-Larsen, Ong Ewe Hock, Yong Hock Kin ring a bell??? Or were you not old enough to know that.

Bleh. What am I wasting my time for... time to go back to packing..... Will be back in Brunei in time for the Japan Open finals.

Cheers all.

ms match
Bleh. What am I wasting my time for... time to go back to packing..... Will be back in Brunei in time for the Japan Open finals.

Cheers all. u what?:eek: travel to brunei just for jo final?
wow,,,,,,,,,,,

questionable member has been warned. thread is closed.