if water break is allowed, can a player bring and use bottled(trendy) oxygen in a tournament?

if water break is allowed, can a player bring and use bottled(trendy) oxygen in a tournament?AHHAHA Bottled oxygen is quite a good idea.
People who like bottled water will love bottled air

I've seen these bottled O2 being sold at some of the badminton courts here in the Philippines! Though I haven't seen anyone using it.

The Laws doesn't say anything about it. It might be legal but maybe during the breaks in between games/sets only. Or maybe depends on the discretion of the Umpire or Tournament Director.

Depends wether it is regarded if bottled O2 is regarded as a drug...

I remember it used to be common in the NBA. Suddenly made a disappearance.

I don't think it was very effective....

But selling overpriced air along with overpriced water is just too much for even the naivest consumers. Plus i'm sure there's all that oxygen free radicals in there... (afterall, water + oxygen is just hydrogen perioxide)

Maybe it does have some benefit but I just can't see it. You probably get more oxygen in one breath than they can dissolve in an entire bottle. I can't see why they would ban something like that. If oxygen supplements are banned, I'd think it's a sad day for the world.

Play is supposed to be continuous.
So I guess you have to look at the reasons for which breaks are allowed.
Wiping sweat from players and court is to prevent injury through slipping.
Drinking is to prevent injury through dehydration or heat stroke.

An oxygen supplement would be used as a player aid. To aid recovery from exertion.
So I would say it should be prohibited during a game, but maybe allowable between games.

But where does that leave us regarding energy drinks during a game?

I am a bit confused, is it a gas canister of O2? Surely that would beneficial, but still needs your body to be capable of absorbing it.

I think they claim is that they purify oxygen removing all sorts of pollutants etc and that the purer you make it the better effect it has on revitalising the body..........hmmmmm...not sure i buy that!

have a look at the link below

http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=275

even the re-salers of this stuff admit it probably has more psychological than physical effects! That says it all!!!

Its pretty pricey!

So this brings the question, would a cannister of oxygen to suck on in the break help?

Isn't there the risk of oxygen poisoning? or something along those lines?

I don't think it was very effective....

But selling overpriced air along with overpriced water is just too much for even the naivest consumers. Plus i'm sure there's all that oxygen free radicals in there... (afterall, water + oxygen is just hydrogen perioxide)

Maybe it does have some benefit but I just can't see it. You probably get more oxygen in one breath than they can dissolve in an entire bottle. I can't see why they would ban something like that. If oxygen supplements are banned, I'd think it's a sad day for the world.

metabolism generates free radicals, period. :p
a shot of o2 during water break would give quicker recovery, it's natural as water for rehydration.

I do not think that it could be benificial because they can not put a higher percentage of O2 in the botlle. I do not remember the exact number but if the percentage of O2 in the air was above 23% (now it is about 16%), we could not survive because O2 would burn our lungs.

I do not think that it could be benificial because they can not put a higher percentage of O2 in the botlle. I do not remember the exact number but if the percentage of O2 in the air was above 23% (now it is about 16%), we could not survive because O2 would burn our lungs.


sorry for going off topic.......... but how would this factor into the 'current players vs legendary players debate?' LOL :D

cheers

ps. im ok for it being allowed..... but u wouldnt catch me with 1..... at least not on a badminton court ;)

I do not think that it could be benificial because they can not put a higher percentage of O2 in the botlle. I do not remember the exact number but if the percentage of O2 in the air was above 23% (now it is about 16%), we could not survive because O2 would burn our lungs.

bottled O2 contain medical grade ~99.999% O2, it will not burn your lung. :rolleyes:

I don't think it was very effective....

But selling overpriced air along with overpriced water is just too much for even the naivest consumers. Plus i'm sure there's all that oxygen free radicals in there... (afterall, water + oxygen is just hydrogen perioxide)

Maybe it does have some benefit but I just can't see it. You probably get more oxygen in one breath than they can dissolve in an entire bottle. I can't see why they would ban something like that. If oxygen supplements are banned, I'd think it's a sad day for the world.

i thot people who uses oxygen chamber want to extend health and life, not to shorten it with free radicals :p (eg. michael jackson bot one o2 chamber similar to the pic)

metabolism generates free radicals, period. :p
a shot of o2 during water break would give quicker recovery, it's natural as water for rehydration.
oxygen from a oxygen bottle perhaps. But oxygen from an oxygen-water bottle? I'm too lazy to look up their actual O2 content but I suspect it's very small relative to a person's oxygen capacity. I'd be surprised if the edge we are pushing here is worth more than a single deep breath.

oxygen from a oxygen bottle perhaps. But oxygen from an oxygen-water bottle? I'm too lazy to look up their actual O2 content but I suspect it's very small relative to a person's oxygen capacity. I'd be surprised if the edge we are pushing here is worth more than a single deep breath.
i meant a shot of o2 gas into nostril, not drinking oxygenated water :rolleyes:

There's quite a bit of nonsense in this thread ;)

I'm not an expert on this, but I have some understanding of oxygen usage from my scuba and medical training.

Normal air is about 80% nitrogen, 20% oxygen. Expired air is about 80% nitrogen, 16% oxygen, and 4% carbon dioxide. So you can see that we are only able to use a small fraction of the oxygen in the air we breathe.

100% oxygen is very useful as a first-aid measure in certain situations. But often people misapprehend the reason it is used. In diving, we don't use 100% oxygen in order to get more oxygen into a casualty; rather, we use it in order to get less nitrogen into the casualty.

"The bends" is caused by nitrogen off-gassing (unloading) from tissues too quickly, thereby forming dangerous bubbles that rip tissue and can cause embolisms. By giving 100% oxygen, we decrease the amount of nitrogen on-gassing (loading), and so reduce the damage to the body. Wherever possible, this is combined with hyperbaric treatment.

There are other medical uses of 100% oxygen, although their benefits are often merely anecdotal. Some uses (for example, healing wounds) are believed to have good evidential support.

In general, however, the use of oxygen as a broad-spectrum therapeutic agent has only tenuous evidential support. The efficacy of oxygen as a performance-enhancing agent is even more dubious.

With regard to "oxygen burning your lungs" or "poisoning you": neither of these things ever happen (at least, not in the short term). The only way for oxygen to burn your lungs is if you swallow a flame - thus igniting the near 100% oxygen in your lungs. Note that the effect would be explosive, so you would not suffer long!

Oxygen becomes toxic at a partial pressure of 1.4 - 1.6 bar (that is, 140 - 160% of atmospheric pressure). The effect of oxygen toxicity is central nervous system failure, typically leading to loss of consciousness. In most situations, this is not immediately life-threatening. At 50 metres underwater, you will probably drown after CNF. Therefore, when divers go beyond about 50 metres, they must use a gas mix that has less oxygen (to reduce the partial pressure).

The possible risks of long-term oxygen therapy are debatable. I know one doctor who claims to have had a group of patients on 100% oxygen for over a year, with no signs of related damage. All are in agreement, however, that short or medium term oxygen therapy is safe, unless there are specific contra-indications in the patient's condition (such as emphysema).

Normal air is about 80% nitrogen, 20% oxygen. Expired air is about 80% nitrogen, 16% oxygen, and 4% carbon dioxide. So you can see that we are only able to use a small fraction of the oxygen in the air we breathe.

so we use 20% of the inspired oxygen.

But what is expired when you breathe 100% oxygen ?
is it
96% oxygen, 4% carbon dioxide
or
80% oxygen, 20% carbon dioxide
or
somewhere in between.
I expect the limitting factor to be something to do with how much oxygen the blood can carry away from the lungs.
The object of athletes storing and having transfusions of their own blood was to increase red cell count to enable them to carry more oxygen in the blood.
Doesn't training at high altitude also make the body produce more red cells?

If you breath 100% oxygen, you expire 96% O2 and 4% CO2 (after equilibrium).

It goes down to some more physiology. Assuming that all who play badminton have perfectly healthy lungs, breathing in oygen will only increase oxygen in the blood by a tiny fraction. The vast majority of oxygen is carried in the blood by haemoglobin.

Beneficial physical effects for atheletes are minor...if any.