removing original grip/apply how many grip layers help.

[joseph]

just curious, how come most people add 2 layers of grip to their G4 racquets? to me, 2 layers of grip to a G4 racquet seems too big, and power seem to decrease a little, so does consistency.

[Yogi]

I add a orginal replacement grip over the G4 and 2 over grips!

[Jeff L]

i like to take off the original, put a over grip on the wood, and another over grip over that. for some reason it helps me. recently i got a g5 grip though, i put one over grip it seems pretty big :(

[LL]

No wonder all you people like 3U racquets, cause you add so much weight to the racquets by adding sooooo much grip. Plus it changes the balance point of the racquet. Just get a bigger handle and replace the orginal with one grip. That should be enough.

LL

[LL]

No wonder all you people like 3U racquets, cause you add so much weight to the racquets by adding sooooo much grip. Plus it changes the balance point of the racquet. Just get a bigger handle and replace the orginal with one grip. That should be enough.

LL

[Don]

6 overgrips

[Jeff L]

jkfhsidhidhioaw' thats a lot, 2 packs, lol

[Howard]

Man i just use one or two not 6, your hand must be really big lol

[lucky OH 10]

OVERgrips whats it for? what are the advantages/disadvantages of using one?

any suggestions on what characteristics do i look for?

10 Q

[jon]

overgrips are for better gripping of the racquet... less slipping and such...

characteristics... just look for something more grippy than regular, and more comfortable... and durable

[SystemicAnomaly]

Many players that use overgrips end up making the diameter of the grip too large for their hand/fingers. If your grip or overgrip is too big it will significantly diminish your ability to use "finger power" on your shots.

Only use thick overgrips on grips that are small for your hand. Otherwise, stick with a thinner overgrip.

[vincenterika]

Dear all...I am male adult and I'm wondering if G4 or G5 grip size affects my game...

In my all 8 of Yonex,

5 of them are G4,
1 of them is G4.5,
2 of them are G5

In fact...
Which grip size shall I choose...

And will G4 or G5 really affect my game?

I have no special favorite for G4 or G5, I play each racket as well.Model is different so cann't compare the feeling...

Maybe I should get 2 same model rackets, one is G4 and one is G5 to have a test...

:(

[wood_22_chuck]

Almost as subjective as, "which racket is best?" or "what string tension?" ... it's a matter of personal preference and style of play. When you find out what works for you, update us with how you made your choice.

-dave

[cappy75]

To a certain extent, it depends on how you hold the racquet. For me, I often change the way of holding the racquet based on my position in the court and the situation I am in. Having a slimmer grip size definitely ease and speed up the changing of grip. FYI, I play doubles mainly and would change my grip to optimise my shots. Not sure about singles, but I doubt they use the entire handles of their racquets for their games.

[bluejeff]

It just depends on how big your hands are.
If you find G5 is too small for you (or too slim), just a some overgrips on it to enlarge the size of the grip/handle.

In my opinions, people should just buy something as slim as G5, then, work on the grip size by adding overgrips.
You can NOT go down if you find the size is too big if you get a G3......so best would be get a small one, then work toword up.

[LazyBuddy]

In my opinions, people should just buy something as slim as G5, then, work on the grip size by adding overgrips.


Not really.

I think ppl should pick the grip size which is just slightly different than his/her "perfect" size. This way, we can eaily increase (add overgrip) or decrease (remove original grip and add overgrip) size.

If a person has large hand, but got a G5, he might need to add 3 layers of overgrip to make a G2, which will greatly change the balance of the racket.

[bluejeff]

Not really.

I think ppl should pick the grip size which is just slightly different than his/her "perfect" size. This way, we can eaily increase (add overgrip) or decrease (remove original grip and add overgrip) size.

If a person has large hand, but got a G5, he might need to add 3 layers of overgrip to make a G2, which will greatly change the balance of the racket.
If a person wants to jump from G5 to G2, you can always get a thicker overgrip, and you only need 1 - 2 of these to make it work.

G2 and G5 rackets have different balance already, for example, a G2 MP99 (let's just say there is one) and G5 MP99, their balance will be different originally because of the weight of handle and grip. You can see some examples in Cooler's measurements, with different size, the weights are different.

Also, the weight of the overgrip will depend on what you use. There are tons of grips on the market now, and you can also use squash or tennis grips as well, so you have try some of those and you will know what i am talking about.

[bluejeff]

If a person has large hand, but got a G5, he might need to add 3 layers of overgrip to make a G2, which will greatly change the balance of the racket.
Here is another way of this this:

say, if you want something like G3, but you don't know this before you buy rackets. So you bought two rackets, one is G5, one is G3.
(For G3 racket, it is heavier than G5 because of the larger handle/grip)

So, you feel good about G3, then you want you make the G5 to be like G3, so you add two layers of overgrip, and made the G5 to be the same as G3. Now since G5 originally is less weight in G3, and you add two layers of overgrip to it, and so it will also add some weight. After this, the G5 racket (now become the G3) should have the same weight (or similar weight) as the other G3, and thus, the balance should not change if you done this right and know what you are doing.

[Dill]

The balance would change depending on the weight of the grip, all my AT700's are G5 and I hate thin grips so I take off the original and add 1 layer of Kushy grip and 1 layer of towel.

If I use 2 layers of towel to give roughly the same grip size it weighs less therefore the balance would be different again.

If I use grap to get the same thickness the racket would be heavier again.

[bluejeff]

The balance would change depending on the weight of the grip, all my AT700's are G5 and I hate thin grips so I take off the original and add 1 layer of Kushy grip and 1 layer of towel.

If I use 2 layers of towel to give roughly the same grip size it weighs less therefore the balance would be different again.

If I use grap to get the same thickness the racket would be heavier again.
That's why I said people need to work on this thing :)

By the way, towel grip is different and it's not a good option when you are trying to work on the grip size/weight because:
For people who sweat a lot, Towel grips absorbs sweat often pretty good, thus adds weight to the handle in about a hour or so....... ;)

[Dill]

Well thats the odd thing, I don't have sweaty hands and the grip stays dry for almost the entire night, I have to spray water on it for best results and extra grippyness.

[bluejeff]

Well thats the odd thing, I don't have sweaty hands and the grip stays dry for almost the entire night, I have to spray water on it for best results and extra grippyness.
Really? that's great for towel grip users.

Like my GF, she sweats A LOT!! She borrowed my ISO-TISP-SR for 30 minutes, and then, it was all wet!! :eek: Some people really sweat a lot at the hands....I just don't know why.

I sweat a little at my hands, but not as much, but still, that's the reason I don't use towel grips because it will smell bad after uses on me.

[vincenterika]

You are all so nice!

As I know some ppl like slim grip...and some ppl like thick grip...

I sweat a lot on hands too...maybe more serious than bluejeff's GF...some ppl is like me, first I will sweat at hands and foot, then body.But some ppl will sweat at the body side first...

[Mr. Anderson]

Currently I have a G5 grip and I want to increase the size.

I bought a replacement grip instead of an over grip because I find that the over grips are far too thin t ohave any effects on the size. (At least the ones I could find were called grip "tapes" instead of "grips")

So my question is, will a replacement fit nicely on the original layer of grip or will it peel off easily because it was designed to stick onto wood but not rubber?

[kwun]

try it, and tell us. ;)

[taneepak]

Currently I have a G5 grip and I want to increase the size.

I bought a replacement grip instead of an over grip because I find that the over grips are far too thin t ohave any effects on the size. (At least the ones I could find were called grip "tapes" instead of "grips")

So my question is, will a replacement fit nicely on the original layer of grip or will it peel off easily because it was designed to stick onto wood but not rubber?

A replacement grip is best used as it is intended, that is to replace the original grip. Most original grips, including Yonex, are made of cheap material. I do not understand the reluctance to strip away the original grip. Using an overgrip to cover/protect the original grip or to make the grip one or more sizes up is not desirable. It is best to replace it completely if the original needs replacement. If you need to increase the grip size, it is better to strip away the original grip and use a lightweight thin polyurethane wrapping foam-the type used to wrap new electrical appliances that are then boxed-and then use a replacement grip over it. The polyurethane flexible wrap weighs less than half gram but bulks up the handle and is much lighter than an overgrip, the latter adding close to 10gm to the weight of your racquet. Frankly, I don't believe in overgrip at all.
I have just finished stringing a friend's Yonex Ti-8 Long, 2UG5, that weighs 112gm without strings, 115.4 with strings. Its weight is getting close to that of a Training racquet. It has two overgrips over the original grip plus two long finishing tapes and a heavy collar that holds the grip at the shaft end. Its static balance point has been shifted to 26cm, completely blunting the inherent power of this long racquet. My offer to reduce the weight to 98gm, new grip similar in size to his heavy racquet, was turned down, simply because he doesn't want to strip away the original grip.
Earlier, I had better success with an owner of an AT700, who had complained of a slight loss in his racquet's punchy feel because of a heavy overgrip but would not want to have the original grip stripped away, until he finally relented. Now he is a happy man, having regained the punchy feel he thought he had lost.

[Gollum]

Taneepak - this polyurethane wrapping foam sounds interesting :) Is it any different from standard "PU" racket overgrips, such as the ones sold by Karakal, Ashaway, and Wilson, etc.? After all, doesn't PU stand for polyurethane?

From what you say, this grip is much lighter than the normal PU grips, and will therefore affect the racket balance less.

[taneepak]

Taneepak - this polyurethane wrapping foam sounds interesting :) Is it any different from standard "PU" racket overgrips, such as the ones sold by Karakal, Ashaway, and Wilson, etc.? After all, doesn't PU stand for polyurethane?

From what you say, this grip is much lighter than the normal PU grips, and will therefore affect the racket balance less.

No, it is different from the PU racquet grips. It comes in sheets, white in colour but not transparent, and are sometimes used to wrap delicate china. They are usually used as wrapping sheets for appliances like vacuum cleaners, computers, etc. You just get a sheet or two and use a pair of scissors to trim/cut a grip length.

[Mr. Anderson]

Well I'm reluctant to strip away the original grip because I haven't wrapped any grips before and I'm afraid that if I mess up I'll up end up with a hole in my wallet and a week of rest.

But since you say so, I have to ask this question, where do you get those PU wrappings? :D

[taneepak]

Well I'm reluctant to strip away the original grip because I haven't wrapped any grips before and I'm afraid that if I mess up I'll up end up with a hole in my wallet and a week of rest.

But since you say so, I have to ask this question, where do you get those PU wrappings? :D

Grips, both overgrip and replacement, are very low cost items that are sold sometimes at very high prices. You shouldn't pay more than US$2 for a replacement grip or US$0.40 for an overgrip. Stripping away the original grip and replacing it with a replacement grip is easy. With a few practice you can do it as good if not better than the original grip.
But first the basics: you must avoid any overgrip, as the use of an overgrip is nothing but a band-aid to choosing a racquet with too small a grip size for your hand. The golden rule is to buy a racquet with the correct grip size.
However, if you have made a mistake in having bought a racquet with a small grip, then you really don't have much of a choice but to make your grip bigger, which means added weight. Your problem is made worse because the original grip is a very light cheapy grip of between 6gm to 9gm, which is no heavier than any overgrip but about 1/2 to 1/3 the weight of a replacement grip. The only thing you can do is to buy a light replacement grip and use the light flexible PU sheet I mentioned earlier to bulk it up under the replacement grip.
You can get those PU sheets free by going to appliances shops where they throw them away after they have unwrapped those appliances for their showroom. Another source is to buy fruits that are sometimes wrapped with similar types of PU wrapper that has a net-like structure, one fruit one wrapper.

[Arcos]

i know wat are the kind of foam his talking about, but why not just use an electrical tape?

[taneepak]

i know wat are the kind of foam his talking about, but why not just use an electrical tape?

Because it is heavy for the given thickness. It must be light enough to be easily blown away.

[taneepak]

The handle is beveled with 8 sides, two of which are wider than the rest for better grip. The more overgrip you use the rounder the handle becomes. A round handle will result in some loss of power, due to disorientation. :D

[Mr. Anderson]

So, if I use the PU wrappings, should I cut it into a complete sheet and roll it onto the handle or should I imitate the grips and cut it into a long strip and wrap it round and round?

Also I noticed there were lots of residue tape/glue on the handle when I peeled the original grip of an old racket off, should I attempt to clean these off or just leave them alone (I noticed that the grips you buy only have a very thin strip of double-sided tape so I think it shouldn't be cleaned off since the new grip would peel off easily with that little tape)?

Lastly, how much tape should I apply to the PU? And how about doing the work for me? :D

[NB1700]

Mr. Anderson, how big is your racquet hand? I wonder why you decide to buy a G5 racket instead of another one with bigger handle....

[Mr. Anderson]

Well actually the racket fits nicely it's just that I find that sometimes I havethe tendancy to rotate the racket a bit since the grip's "sharp" edges cuts into my thumb when I do overhead clears so that's why I'm asking this question. I guess a new replacement grip would feel better and thus prevent this problem.

My racket hand measuers 17.5 cm from the base of my palm to the tip of the middle finger.

[Mr. Anderson]

As for the question of why I chose a G5 racket, well the shop only had G5s (for my particular racket, Ti 7 light) in stock, that's why. :(

[chickenpoodle]

a friend had a similar problem (but his hand might not be quite as large as yours. who knows...), but i solved his problem by simply stripping the OEM yonex grip, replaced it with the karakal PU supergrip, and one layer the yonex supergrap.

if you dislike the puffy feeling of the PU supergrip, just wrap it tighter when you apply it. this retains more of the bevelled edges feeling.

the OEM grips are rather thin and hard, so i think the karakal PU supergrip is a good replacement to bump it up to about G4, perhaps.

[taneepak]

So, if I use the PU wrappings, should I cut it into a complete sheet and roll it onto the handle or should I imitate the grips and cut it into a long strip and wrap it round and round?

Also I noticed there were lots of residue tape/glue on the handle when I peeled the original grip of an old racket off, should I attempt to clean these off or just leave them alone (I noticed that the grips you buy only have a very thin strip of double-sided tape so I think it shouldn't be cleaned off since the new grip would peel off easily with that little tape)?

Lastly, how much tape should I apply to the PU? And how about doing the work for me? :D

You can cut the PU wrappings to the same shape as the grip, but try not to overlap. One layer of this plus your new grip should be enough. If not, then do another layer of the PU wrappings. You need to make sure the PU wrappings are held firmly, otherwise your new grip will rest on loose foundation.
You must scrape off any residue glue on the handle, as tape/glue do weigh a bit, and the more you scrape off, the less of additional weight you put on with your new grip. Scraping these residue off is the most difficult part of the job. Surprising, a knife is not so effective. Your own fingers are the best, but beware of blisters.
You can do the job yourself. It is simple. If you don't try, you won't really know how simple it is. No venture, no gain. :D

[outlah]

I don't really agree that all overgrips are evil, they're great if you know what you're doing. I agree that people should buy the proper grip size for their rackets, but lets face it, there're only 3 or 4 grip sizes to choose from. You can't possibly expect everyone to get a perfect grip without some fine adjustments. It's true that adding overgrip will add weight to the racket and changes the way the racket handles, but wouldn't taking off weight have the same effect? Just like rackets, there's not such thing as a *perfect* grip, you just have to find one that you're most comfortable with and go from there. In the end, only practice will make you a better player.

By the way, I'm one of those weird people who keeps the shrink wrap and wraps a overgrip over it. Not because I want to keep the original grip, but because its easier and quicker to replace the overgrip over the plastic. Not to mention overgrips are a lot cheaper than replacements. Also the fact that the plastic would prevent my sweat from getting absorbed into the wooden handle. Sweat+wood+dark storage is never a good idea. ;)

[taneepak]

I don't really agree that all overgrips are evil, they're great if you know what you're doing. I agree that people should buy the proper grip size for their rackets, but lets face it, there're only 3 or 4 grip sizes to choose from. You can't possibly expect everyone to get a perfect grip without some fine adjustments. It's true that adding overgrip will add weight to the racket and changes the way the racket handles, but wouldn't taking off weight have the same effect? Just like rackets, there's not such thing as a *perfect* grip, you just have to find one that you're most comfortable with and go from there. In the end, only practice will make you a better player.

By the way, I'm one of those weird people who keeps the shrink wrap and wraps a overgrip over it. Not because I want to keep the original grip, but because its easier and quicker to replace the overgrip over the plastic. Not to mention overgrips are a lot cheaper than replacements. Also the fact that the plastic would prevent my sweat from getting absorbed into the wooden handle. Sweat+wood+dark storage is never a good idea. ;)

Nothing is really evil. But first, lets go with the fundamentals. A grip is a grip; if a grip gets old or is not of the right size, you then replace with another grip that comes as close as to what you are looking for. If you use a shrink wrap, which prevents moisture from penetrating the original grip, you are adding additional weight. On top of this you are adding an overgrip, which can weigh anything from 6gm to 10gm. Nothing wrong with this solution to adding bulk to a small grip. There are many approaches, but the ones that add the least additional weight are more desirable. The real danger is to bulk up a G5 grip to a G2 or G3: how do you do it without adding 10gm or more?
Be fussy when you buy a new racquet. Insist on the right weight and the right grip size, and you will not be saddled with unforseen problems that will crop up later. Personally, I don't use an overgrip. It is replacement grip everytime, with varying thickness and weight for a close fit. I do not go beyond the 4gm rule-any replacement grip must not add more than 4gm. Also, I always recommend to friends who use overgrips to change to replacement grips, which almost always result in some weight reduction:D

[chickenpoodle]

Also, I always recommend to friends who use overgrips to change to replacement grips, which almost always result in some weight reduction:D

however, that doesn't work for people like me, if the user likes to wrap grip up and past the cone.
plus, i just like the feel of the overgrip. yonex in my case. i don't feel quite as comfortable without it.

the only original grip i've liked was this fleet one my friend had. felt pretty good!

[HappyOne]

i recently bought my muscle power 30 and the grip that came with it was really good. but the problem was i got a blister from playing with it >.< so i decided to overgrip it and so theres like 2 layers of grip on it right now. and it feels the same as before so i wanted to triple layer it.... would it be a bad idea ? lol im a total newb =D

[bluejeff]

That's no problem, overgrips are used very commonly.

You might want to find some thicker grips. 3 layers of grips is a lot of work :)

[Neosakai]

Hey I have a Mp30 too =)


Err that's the difference between taking off the original grip and wrap the new one and overlapping the old grip with the new one?

The difference is the... thickness?

[HappyOne]

well i didnt know .. i just bought watever the man had to offer. but how could i tell if the grips are thicker ? so theres nothing wrong with gripping your racket 3 times right =]

[gkwok]

well i didnt know .. i just bought watever the man had to offer. but how could i tell if the grips are thicker ? so theres nothing wrong with gripping your racket 3 times right =] For years I've played with more than one grip on top of the the original grip, gripped on my racquet.

I still use the 2 relics that I have; a Cab20 and Cab20sp, both are 2u 4g. After gripping them with 2 extra layers of grip, I found it to be more comfortable and playable. 3 extra layers of grip was usually too much.

btw, I've tried, removing the original grip, and gave up after the first time I did it. It's not a pretty sight, and not that easy if I recall correctly. Certainly not worth the effort. I would keep the original grip, and put the new grip directly over it. Also, I've used thin grips, thicker grips, padded grips, and I never was brave enough to try those fuzzy grips, but my choice is the normal (if you can call it normal) black, feels like rubber, probably only 1 or 2 mm thick grip that is absorbant, and has good tack (ie. similiar to how how a RED rubber band) feels as my choice of grip.

Plus: I've even peeled off the top layer of grip, to expose a fresh grip underneath during matches. Takes seconds just to unravel it.

[Ultra-]

I have a brand new kakaral pu grip that I have no idea how to apply to handle. One end is full widthed, the other narrows down. Which side do I use first? Also, am I suppose to remove my old grip before applying this one?

Thanks

[cappy75]

Narrow one first cuz you have to wrap around the handle at an angle to cover the whole thing. Your PU grip must be really thick, so it's a replacement grip. If it has adhesive on it, you have to remove the old grip before putting on the new one.


I have a brand new kakaral pu grip that I have no idea how to apply to handle. One end is full widthed, the other narrows down. Which side do I use first? Also, am I suppose to remove my old grip before applying this one?

Thanks

[Ultra-]

Ah, I see. Many thanks!

[HoustonRockets]

I suggest you put two grips on the handle....

it might give you a better feel....try it

[LazyBuddy]

I suggest you put two grips on the handle....

it might give you a better feel....try it

This is hard to say, as ppl's hand are different. If a grip is way too big to have good control, then... ;)

[chickenpoodle]

This is hard to say, as ppl's hand are different. If a grip is way too big to have good control, then... ;)
also depends on how the person likes the racquet, right?
some people play with wood.
some play with 1 over grip.
some play with 1 undergrip.
some play with undergrip and overgrip.
then theres the people who pile on grips until its not only G1, but maybe G0 or G-1. haha

[SWC_Ant]

also depends on how the person likes the racquet, right?
some people play with wood.
some play with 1 over grip.
some play with 1 undergrip.
some play with undergrip and overgrip.
then theres the people who pile on grips until its not only G1, but maybe G0 or G-1. hahai haven't seen anyone play with wood grip :rolleyes: lol
i find a lot of beginners use only the undergrip though.. either they dont know about overgrip, or dont know where to buy it... i had someone ask me if my orange overgrip was "custom made" :p

[Jinryu]

I suggest you do a 'pre-wrap' with the Supergrip first, without using the adhesive, then holding the grip at the cone with a rubber band. Just so you can get an idea of how much overlap you want, as the Supergrips are quite thick... and if you wrap it and then decide you don't like it, you're gonna have major problems as the adhesive on Karakals is easily enough to rip up itself (if enough overlap) or take out splinters from your racket. Basically, with the glue, you don't want to have to do it twice.;)

[Gollum]

I suggest you do a 'pre-wrap' with the Supergrip first, without using the adhesive

You can also interpose a layer of cling-film (food wrap) between layers of grip. Then, if you want to remove or replace a grip, you can do it without all the mess. Cling film weighs next to nothing and will not affect the balance of your racket.

[chickenpoodle]

i personally put the undergrip of my choice (black knight competition grip) on with the adhesive, with very little overlap.

then i apply the supergrap on (without removing the little white adhesive cover at the end), with an overlap of about 3mm.

i dont' see any reason to remove the undergrip at anytime, so theres no point in not using the adhesive!

if the user sweats a lot, i guess the clingwrap will be really useful in keeping that gunk off the wood!

[RaymondLin]

I am confuzzled on how much grip should I put on my racket handle?:confused:

Right now I am using a black Victor grip but i can't tell if its an over grip or an undergrip and underneath the grip is the wood.

I feel like my grip is too thin but I am not sure....

Is there a way to make my grip thicker like....putting two undergrips or one overgrip?

I would like to know what you guys use on your racket handle:rolleyes:
(how many grips you use, what kind of grips like overgrip or under grips)

Please help me out:p
Thank You

[Dave18]

Well, it's really up to you to decide, if you say it's too small, add another overgrip to make it thicker. If underneath your black victor grip is wood, then that is the original grip.

I have an original grip + 2 overgrips. I kept adding to see what suits me right. I tried up to 3 overgrips and it was a bit too big and made me produce less power with the racquet. 2 overgrips was perfect for me. Now it's up to you to experiment and find out yourself.

[RaymondLin]

Well, it's really up to you to decide, if you say it's too small, add another overgrip to make it thicker. If underneath your black victor grip is wood, then that is the original grip.

I have an original grip + 2 overgrips. I kept adding to see what suits me right. I tried up to 3 overgrips and it was a bit too big and made me produce less power with the racquet. 2 overgrips was perfect for me. Now it's up to you to experiment and find out yourself.
Thanks Dave for replying but my racket was a Yonex racket and I removed the original grip and bought a Victor grip and put it on my handle. Someone from my club said that my grip was too thin. I was wondering can you put 2 overgrips under the wood? Any other ways to make grip thicker? I am in Canada now anyone now any website that sells good grips for a good price?

[Dave18]

Thanks Dave for replying but my racket was a Yonex racket and I removed the original grip and bought a Victor grip and put it on my handle. Someone from my club said that my grip was too thin. I was wondering can you put 2 overgrips under the wood? Any other ways to make grip thicker? I am in Canada now anyone now any website that sells good grips for a good price?I don't see a reason why you can't add 2 overgrips over the wood, go ahead.

Go to some stores to buy grips, don't buy online as it would be more expensive for shipping. I recommend yonex overgrap. They sell for under $10 for a pack of 3.

[Cheung]

....... I was wondering can you put 2 overgrips under the wood? ...
An interesting question....how to put 2 overgrips under the wood?
Anybody tried this? :confused:

[RaymondLin]

An interesting question....how to put 2 overgrips under the wood?
Anybody tried this? :confused:
Hey Cheung what grips do you use on your racket?;)

[GunBlade008]

An interesting question....how to put 2 overgrips under the wood?
Anybody tried this? :confused:
Well, I'm pretty sure that was a typo, lol. In any case, I took off my original grip on my AT700 and put 2 Wilson Perforated overgrips over it. I then put a yonex super grap over that. It feels good, haven't tested it yet.

[Sgt. Shibby]

Sorry to ressurect an old thread, but this is exactly what I was looking for! I joined up to ask this questions and get help all around so we'll see how it works out. Anyway, I got a new grip and I'm having a lot of trouble applying it. I read article by kwun on this site and can't seem to get the wrap to start off. It keeps bunching up and pinching in when I try to start the move up the handle.

Also, it was recommended that I go up to the top of the cone. That has the same problems with bunching, of course. Is the bunch unavoidable or is there some other slick way to do it?

[Shimotakimas]

Hi. Is it advisable to take off the original yonex grip off my armortex 800DEF? I want to put a towel grip on but with the original yonex grip, its way too thick........Does anybody else take the original grip off?

[cgote16]

I personly like to take the original grip off, because it feels more comfortable. But I also like a thiner grip then most people. I suggest trying the towel grip without the original grip under. :cool:

[ants]

It is advisable to take the original grip off if you think it will be to thick for you. I take off the original grips from the rackets.

[SandeepD]

Is there any problem using the original grip on its own until it starts to wear out, and then putting an overgrip on top? Or if the original has worn down is it then advisable to take it off completely and use a replacement grip?

I would prefer to leave the original grip as it is until it gets in bad condition, since I've never wrapped an overgrip or replacement grip before and wouldn't want to risk doing it wrong when there is a perfectly useable grip in the first place. I have read some posts saying that you should never let the original grip get worn down - not sure why this is though.

[fast3r]

You can also interpose a layer of cling-film (food wrap) between layers of grip. Then, if you want to remove or replace a grip, you can do it without all the mess. Cling film weighs next to nothing and will not affect the balance of your racket.

I wouldn't recommend cling film as it slips leaving gaps in the grip.

[other]

I wouldn't recommend cling film as it slips leaving gaps in the grip.
high quality stretchy and "sticky" cling film is usually ok...i tried the cheap sainsburys one and that failed miserably....:o

[SandeepD]

So are you guys recommending that something be done from when you first get the racquet (i.e. overgrip or replacement grip), or can the original grip just be used till it gets worn down?

[shawn30_k]

yup.if you are a competitive player and play weekly,its a must to tear away the original grip and change to another grip that is more comfortable.for me i will tear off the first original grip and put on 1 layer of masking tape before putting on a sticky grip (the grip is 1 of our local brand because it is cheaper) which can last me for around 2 months.
So are you guys recommending that something be done from when you first get the racquet (i.e. overgrip or replacement grip), or can the original grip just be used till it gets worn down?

[other]

yup.if you are a competitive player and play weekly,its a must to tear away the original grip and change to another grip that is more comfortable.for me i will tear off the first original grip and put on 1 layer of masking tape before putting on a sticky grip (the grip is 1 of our local brand because it is cheaper) which can last me for around 2 months.
unless you are blessed with a racquet that has a grip exactly suitable (size and feeling) for you, its better to adapt it to make it better for u personally. many people regrip becuase the original grip is too small/big or not sticky enough, or prefer a towel grip. however, sometimes the original grip is suitable so its fine to play with that one.

[SandeepD]

OK, thanks for the advice. Once my new racquet arrives I'll use it for a few games and see how the grip feels. I haven't been particularly fussy about it in the past though - the racquet it is replacing has had parts of the wood handle showing for the last year. :)

[other]

OK, thanks for the advice. Once my new racquet arrives I'll use it for a few games and see how the grip feels. I haven't been particularly fussy about it in the past though - the racquet it is replacing has had parts of the wood handle showing for the last year. :)

better check your hand for splinters....:D

if u have another grip handy, take it with u (and scissors) and put it on during ur badminton instead of after a session.

[SandeepD]

No splinters, but the main patch of wood is where my thumb slides between forehand and backhand grips. If I have a particular long/intensive session the side of my thumb does get rubbed raw :(

Actually, now I'm thinking that I may as well get a new grip for the old racquet so that I can practice before trying to put a grip on the new one (if and when it needs the grip).

[TheGr8Two]

Here's my problem: after using an overgrip for 2 weeks, my AT500 starts to feel too heavy...probably because the overgrip absorbs the sweat(my hand sweats a lot, and the overgrip absorbs sweat very well). The overgrip was applied on top of a layer of plastic food wrap on top of the original grip.

Should I remove the original grip, and just use overgrip right on the wood? That will help with the weight problem, but then the overgrip won't be thick enough. I could use 2 overgrips, but is that going to weigh more than the original grip? I actually like the AT500's swing weight with the original grip without any overgrips. In fact, I would much rather decrease the weight than increase weight..

By the way, my grip is size G5, and is actually the right size for my hand.

Anyone know of much the original grip and the overgrip weigh?

[aL_vin]

Hi. I have a question. I'm currently using an Armortec 800 DE, 4U G4. I really like the feel and touch of using the original Yonex grip on it. But now, it is getting worn out. Is the Yonex original grip "thin"? Which replacement grip should I get/use when I take the original grip off?

Thanks

[taneepak]

Hi. I have a question. I'm currently using an Armortec 800 DE, 4U G4. I really like the feel and touch of using the original Yonex grip on it. But now, it is getting worn out. Is the Yonex original grip "thin"? Which replacement grip should I get/use when I take the original grip off?

Thanks

You should strip away the original grip and any leftover sticky glue on the wooden handle. Then use a thin replacement grip and make sure you overlap the grip just a little and definitely not over 1/3 the width of the grip. This way, you don't end up with a round grip or with any extra weight over the original grip.

[__Lam]

experiment, do whatever fits you.

[Woofsta]

Well for me, its 1 overgrip it good. =]

[__Lam]

i stopped using only 1 layer of overgrip. g4 grip size is too small, and the handle has no shock absorbance, hurts my hand like crazy

[pison21]

You can cut the PU wrappings to the same shape as the grip, but try not to overlap. One layer of this plus your new grip should be enough. If not, then do another layer of the PU wrappings. You need to make sure the PU wrappings are held firmly, otherwise your new grip will rest on loose foundation.
You must scrape off any residue glue on the handle, as tape/glue do weigh a bit, and the more you scrape off, the less of additional weight you put on with your new grip. Scraping these residue off is the most difficult part of the job. Surprising, a knife is not so effective. Your own fingers are the best, but beware of blisters.
You can do the job yourself. It is simple. If you don't try, you won't really know how simple it is. No venture, no gain. :D

How do i stick this polyurethane foam in the racket, im afraid this thing would come off along with the new replacement grip, Thanks in advance

[Volts]

I take off the original grip from Yonex and put a layer of a overgrip and my towel grip over it.