The heat is building up in the 2005 edition of the Sudirman Cup.

The 3rd day we will see two head-to-head clashes of the titans: China vs. Indonesia, Korea vs. Denmark.

China vs. Indonesia

China is undoubtedly the favorite to win this Sudirman Cup. their superiority in the WS, WD is unquestioned. and they are equally strong in all other departments. Indonesia is sure to lose both WS and WD. however, that doesn't mean a sure doom for INA. they have in the cards reigning Olympics Champion Taufik Hidayat, former world champions Sigit/Candra, as well as Singapore Open Champion Widianto/Natsir. they will have to bank on winning all 3 of these ties to beat China. is that possible?

Taufik has the upper hand on the Chinese #1 Lin Dan, winning their only encounter in recent years in Indonesia Open 2004. Lin Dan will surely want to prove his world #1 status in front of the home crowd.

Candra/Sigit has regrouped (again) after the Olympics, and have slowly risen back to their former form. at the top of their form, it will be a tall order to beat the former world champions.

mixed doubles may turn out to be the crucial match of this tie. Widianto/Natsir has been doing well, getting to the later stages of recent tournament. on the other hand, neither Zhang/Gao nor Chen/Zhao are in their top form lately. head-to-head indicates that they are 1-1, 1-1 against the INA respectively. and they have lost their most recent encounters. it will be a tough choice for the Chinese coaching staff to decide whether to field Zhang/Gao or Chen/Zhao. i would want to be in his shoes.

Denmark vs. Korea

Both reigning Sudirman Cup holder Korea and Denmark have a very even team. Denmark has an upper hand in MS with an in-form Peter Gade, while Korea has an upper hand in WD.

With the retirement of Camilla Martin (DEN) and the absense of Jun Jae Youn (KOR), both team will be fielding their second best WS player. likely candidate will be Tina Rasmussen vs. Seo or Lee Yun Hwa. an unchalanted display by Lee Yun Hwa yesterday may mean Seo will be fielded.

Denmark has in their hand the reigning world champion and friends of Badminton Central Rasmussen/Paaske who hasn't seen any action so far and Eriksen/Lungaard who has been in good form despite their age. Korea has their trump card of former world champion and Olympics Gold Kim/Ha. after testing the water yesterday with Ha playing with Yim, will Korea field Ha/Kim in this crucial tie? Yim display yesterday was uninspiring with many unforced error, still a few miles away from what the venerable Kim Dong Moon can achieve.

Mixed doubles will be another interesting and crucial tie. Denmark has two possible pairings. The 2005 AE finalists and friends of Badminton Central Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Juhl has been doing well lately getting to the Thai and AE finals and winning the Danish nationals, while experienced but aging pairing of Eriksen/Schjodager are also very strong despite lost to Roberton/Emms in the group match. Korea has been keeping the mighty Kim/Ra away from everybody. Rumors has it that they will not be playing together with Ra playing with Lee Jae Jun. There are unfortunately very few pairing in the world who can beat Kim/Ra. Is that just a smoke screen?

Any scope of watching any of these live anywhere ?

I mean in the USA. via web ?

Any scope of watching any of these live anywhere ?

I mean in the USA. via web ?

stickies here have all the info:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=105

Thanks Kwun! You dhi man.

I bet Kim and Ra would have wanted revenge on Jonas and Rikke. Pity that Rikke is injured and Jonas is sidelined for mens doubles only.

I think the most interesting tie would be Denmark vs Korea

I'll stick my neck out Korea 4-1 or...;)

Indonesia will not put Taufik to play today.

They will try to win the semis by resting most key player

Prediction:

China vs Indonesia - 5-0, Indonesia will rest their top player

Korea vs Denmark - 3-2, Korea will win MD, XD, WD but lose WS and MS.

Prediction:

China vs Indonesia - 5-0, Indonesia will rest their top player

Korea vs Denmark - 3-2, Korea will win MD, XD, WD but lose WS and MS.

if Indonesia is indeed resting their players, then it will be a rather boring match. i wonder what funny lineup they will put forward this time, IIRC, i remember in the TC they field Marleve Mainaky in doubles. historically, China has always fielded their best players on these potentially crucial ties.

i have the same prediction for Korea vs. Denmark. however, it will be a close one and may tilt the other way very easily.

Actually, the Group 1 matches today are not that vital even though they may be clashes of titans. Even if China lose today, they will yet go on to win the Cup.

But in Group 2, today and tomorrow are both equally vital. As only one team can progress, whoever (Netherlands, Malaysia, Japan or Singapore) wins twice will advance to Group 1. One can say that today is the semifinals and tomorrow the final.

Equally vital is the relegation battle in Group 1. The team (Hong Kong, Sweden, England or Thailand) that loses twice in a row will be dropped to Group 2. So, losing today will be a step towards the drop.

The only tie of interest now is between Singapore and Japan.

I watched part of the first set on tv before coming to work, and it looks like both pairs are about equal. The Singaporean man, Saputra, is more stable than the Japanese, but the Singaporean woman is the weaker one.

The match is tied one games all, in the rubber game now.

Singapore take the first point.

Next up:
Ronald v Sato
Li Li v Hirose
Wijaya/Kendrick v Masuda/Ohtsuka
Jiang/Liu v Ogura/Shiota

The singles should be split although Sato is more likely to cause an upset than Li Li. Japan should take the WD. That means the MD is the all-important match.

China has always fielded their best players on these potentially crucial ties.

Actually if LYB rests the top players, I think the 2nd team still have a great chance of beating Indoesian's #1 team. Look at the 2nd team's line up of Bao, Zhang Ning, Sang/Zheng, Wei/Zhao and Chen/Zhao. China will get 2 sure points from WS and WD, and the other 3 matches and all 50/50.

no analysis between malaysia and holland? It is the deciding match that will determine the group winners..

I believe that malaysia will take the mens events easily, with LCW and KKK/CCM winning mens doubles easily, KKK/WPT should take the Mixed, and i hope that Mew Chew should hopefully beat Mia Audina :D

I believe that malaysia will take the mens events easily, with LCW and KKK/CCM winning mens doubles easily, KKK/WPT should take the Mixed, and i hope that Mew Chew should hopefully beat Mia Audina :D[/QUOTE]

the pressure again will be on the women to deliver. the mixed is very important, either team win this tie will have higher chance to advance to final, let's see.:cool:

no analysis between malaysia and holland? It is the deciding match that will determine the group winners..

I believe that malaysia will take the mens events easily, with LCW and KKK/CCM winning mens doubles easily, KKK/WPT should take the Mixed, and i hope that Mew Chew should hopefully beat Mia Audina :D

We don't know the lineup yet, so it's a bit hard to analyse. But generally, I agree with what you said. Malaysia to take men's events, Holland to take women's events, and we'll see who takes the mixed event. The facts that puts Malaysia as slight favourites are:

1. Malaysia favourites to take XD.
2. Malaysia more likely to cause upset in women's events than Holland in men's.

I cannot see LCW or Hafiz (depending on who plays) to lose to the dutch mens, and i dont see KKK/CCM losing to their doubles pair. The gulf in quality is too great between them i think.

Im hoping the women have some tricks up their sleeves!!

good luck to malaysia!!!

Singapore 2-0. Well done Singapore! :D

Too bad, Li Li having prob with Hirose :(

Just checked the Malaysian line-up and they are fielding WCH in the MS! :confused: Surprise? Sounds to me like they are planning for the Group 2 final already and saving LCW. Would kinda backfire if they didn't make it.

Just checked the Malaysian line-up and they are fielding WCH in the MS! :confused: Surprise? Sounds to me like they are planning for the Group 2 final already and saving LCW. Would kinda backfire if they didn't make it.

Hmmm ... I honestly believe Dicky Palyama is not easy to deal with.

Hmmm ... I honestly believe Dicky Palyama is not easy to deal with.

Hopefully it's not overconfidence. You'd think Kim Hock would know what he was doing :rolleyes: BTW- always enjoy your analyses.

I know i am kind of playing BaD BoY between all the fun everyone's having,but this why i have always felt that the event should be longer[atleast 3 days more].Indonesia and china have aldready reached the semis, and knowing that ;there are doubts that either might end up 'resting' their few key players,which if u ask me is only logical.The crowd is paying money and i dont think it is too much to ask for 'entertainment' in return.[but the long awaited matches might end up being boring,just like what kwun said]Had the tournament being longer we could have all enjoyed watching the best vs the best.[no question of resting the players at all]
What's ur take on this

its 2:2 matches apiece to singapore and japan, now its the first set of the womens doubles, its up to the ladies to see who wins the tie between japan and singapore

its 10:5 to the japanese pair. 1st set

first set won by K Ogura/R Shiota 15-7 agaisnt Jiang Y/Liu FF

now. what i cant understand is this

XD

Koo K K
Wong P
vs
T J Wouters
Mia Audina

MS

Wong C H
vs
D Palyama

WS

Wong M C
vs.
Yao Jie

MD

Koo K K
Chan C M
vs.
Eric Pang
Brujstens

WD

Wong P T
Chin E H
vs.
Mia Audina
Meulendijk

why play Wong Choon Han??? this is a crucial game for the malaysians, shouldnt the coach be playing Lee Chong Wei for a more 'definate' chance of winning the group and heading for the playoffs?
Is the Holland Coach playing Mia Audina in the Two Doubles games because she might have a better impact? why not play her in WS??

The Singapore Japan tie is very interesting though, very very close.

its 2:2 matches apiece to singapore and japan, now its the first set of the womens doubles, its up to the ladies to see who wins the tie between japan and singapore

its 10:5 to the japanese pair. 1st set

Japan just won the tie 3-2

Is the Holland Coach playing Mia Audina in the Two Doubles games because she might have a better impact? why not play her in WS??

The Singapore Japan tie is very interesting though, very very close.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the Holland coach believes that Yao Jie will be able to secure 1 point in WS and put Mia Audina in 2 double games as she can play double games better than the rest of the team members..IMHO

Japan just won the tie 3-2

Vow, the 2 most popular Japanese girls, Ogura and Shiota, in BF are 3 - 0 already.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23346

[QUOTE=KourKK]
why play Wong Choon Han??? this is a crucial game for the malaysians, shouldnt the coach be playing Lee Chong Wei for a more 'definate' chance of winning the group and heading for the playoffs?
Is the Holland Coach playing Mia Audina in the Two Doubles games because she might have a better impact? why not play her in WS??
[QUOTE]

What i don't understand is u ppl underestimating wch... lcw is good and all, but wch is also a WORLD CLASS PLAYER who is very difficult to beat!

What i don't understand is u ppl underestimating wch... lcw is good and all, but wch is also a WORLD CLASS PLAYER who is very difficult to beat!

I agree. Even Li Mao said WCH and LCW are the 2 world class players in Malaysian team. Dick Dalamya is good, but WCH should be able to beat him easily.

wishing the our malaysians friend all the best. Most likely XD will determind which group will win.

The Singapore Japan tie is very interesting though, very very close.
[/QUOTE]

Just one more point :crying:

nobody watching the DEN vs. MAS match?

XD is 1-1 now.

So the malaysians clawed back the second set against holland?? Sounds very closely matched between the two pairs, the live score seems set on 15-12 13-13

then it just jumped from 15-12 13-13 12-1??? something fishy going on here

It's 12-1 to MAS now - looks like it's over for the Dutch

It's 12-1 to MAS now - looks like it's over for the Dutch

the Malaysians found the weakness in the Dutch pair: the guy.

dont be too fast to say anything though,,, its only the first match out of 5, hopefully KKK/CCM and WCH can clinch the tie, but its international sport, there are always upsets.... *fingers crossed* that it doesnt happen

the Malaysians found the weakness in the Dutch pair: the guy.

Not surprised. Mia Audina would probably give him a good run in singles;)

YES!!!..... (sorry)

and malaysia takes the first match 12-15/15-13/15-1

Good work by KKK and WPT

now for WCH to try and get another match point for malaysia

nobody watching the DEN vs. MAS match?

XD is 1-1 now.
You mean Netherlands and Malaysia [:D].

Malaysia won the third set 15-1.

I'm getting too much lag, screen freeze with coolstream. Is there any configuration that I can do to improve the streaming?

Just one more point :crying:[/QUOTE]

Singapore lost to a better team 2-3. Despite taking an impressive 2-0 lead through our XD and MS, Singapore was no match for Japan in the last three ties. In the MS, Ronald Susilo stamped his superiority over Sato in two straight games.

Our MD proved to be the weakest link and Kendrick was all at sea in his relative new partnership with Wijaya. Maybe he was too used to playing singles and as a result he was rather 'slow' on court and did not display enough of concentration. Against a Japanese pair who has been playing together for a record number of years and is now coached by the great Park Joo Bong, this is suicidal. The Japanese pair was impressive and literally made mince meat of our pari.

Jiang Yanmei did well in her new partnership with Saputra in the XD to give Singapore the first point. But that match proved to be quite taxing for her and playing with another new partner, Frances Liu, in the deciding WD, this proved to be disastrous. Her usual partner, Li Youjia, is not a citizen yet but would have made a great difference if she was fielded.

In the WS, Li Li was completely outclassed by the young and strong Enrico. It must have been Li Li's first encounter with her as all of Li's lifts were left with no mercy and the match lasted very short at 11-1 to the Japanese. Li Li employed a different tactic in the second game by keeping the shuttle low whenever possible and gained a more respectable score of 11-7.

So Singapore ranks second after Japan in this Group 2 and I suppose she will not be able to be one of the top eight teams for yet another Sudirman Cup. :crying: :crying: :crying:

WCH, a renowned fast starter is letting Palyama hang around. He'd better step on the gas or he might run out of it. A victory for the Dutch in the MS could be a huge confidence booster for the rest of the team.

:confused: not looking good so far, especially with 2 bad calls in a row ... clearly on the line :mad:
1st set 15-8 WCH, WCH leading 2nd 6-2 ..., 3-6 now ...

palyama must be mad with the lineman, 2 balls which he though in and i also though in were considered out by the lineman :confused::confused::confused:

wch 6-4 leading

It will be intereting to see how far Wong MC has progressed in the next match. Yao Jie is a good barometer. Wong has always given the top shuttlers a run for the money.

good net play by wch, go go wch:D:D

i hope that WCH can win the tie agaisnt palyama, he won the first set 15-8, not its just for the second set, Palyama is winning 9-7 right now in the second set.... Hope WCH will step on the gas and pull through

Malaysia has done the most difficult part by winning the mixed doubles match.

But still, Wong CH needs to secure the MS, he is losing 10-13 in the second game... :rolleyes:

13 all now.......

And 15-13 WCH 2nd ...
Wonder why they didn't play Hafiz who seems to give him more problems normally.

Wong Choong Hann finally won 15-8 15-13.
I think the tie can be considered already won by Malaysia, as I can't imagine any second Netherlands taking the MD! ;)

Wong Choong Hann finally won 15-8 15-13.
I think the tie can be considered already won by Malaysia, as I can't imagine any second Netherlands taking the MD! ;)

Yeah, actually the hard part is already over for Malaysia. The MD is Holland's weakest point. Furthermore, Malaysia are not pushovers in WS and WD.

And 15-13 WCH 2nd ...
Wonder why they didn't play Hafiz who seems to give him more problems normally.

* rolls eyes* ... lately, WCH has found ways to make his matches unnecessarily exciting. Enough of the drama.

Wong doesn't have her name at the back of her shirt, isn't that against the rules? her shirt only has MALAYSIA.

Wong doesn't have her name at the back of her shirt, isn't that against the rules? her shirt only has MALAYSIA.

Does this mean she could be disqualified?

Does this mean she could be disqualified?

i remember once a Russian pair was not allowed to play because they don't have the right shirt.

yao has nothing on her back. :D

Wow, Yao won the first set rather easily:eek:

USA sees to have a cake walk over wales 4-0.

Not heard much of the wales team before.

Not heard much of the wales team before.

You should have!!! :p
Kelly Morgan and Richard Vaughan are very good players (both have been in the top 10) who featured in Athens Olympics.
Both of them are missing in the team, this is why Wales are so weak this year.

Wow, Yao won the first set rather easily:eek:

Second game is pretty close, 8 all...

yao has nothing on her back. :D

I suppose the SC being a team event, the name of the country is more important that the player and the country's team uniform should be worn. It would therefore mean that the same set of uniform in terms of the same colours, etc, should be the norm. :)

You should have!!! :p
Kelly Morgan and Richard Vaughan are very good players (both have been in the top 10) who featured in Athens Olympics.
Both of them are missing in the team, this is why Wales are so weak this year.

Kelly Morgan was once quite dominating among the Commonwealth countries. But nowadays, losing out to other players.

Yao's backhand cross-court net drop is amazing!!! :eek:

Kelly Morgan was once quite dominating among the Commonwealth countries. But nowadays, losing out to other players.

Kelly Morgan hasn't been playing internationally since Singapore Open in november (beaten my Zhou Mi in second round), she was ranked #16 in the world at that moment.
She lost 11-6 11-8 to Zhang Ning in the last 16 in the Olympics, not so bad against the future winner...

Her best recent world ranking was 13th in january last year (come-back after being pregnant).
Before being pregnant, she reached the top 10 for the first time in 1998 then reached the 5th world ranking at her best (end 2000, beginning 2001).

I think she hasn't had a so bad career just like that... :rolleyes:

Yao Jie won 11-5 11-8 but KKK and CCM will wrap it up for Malaysia now... (8-1 already)

Yao Jie won 11-5 11-8 but KKK and CCM will wrap it up for Malaysia now... (8-1 already)

Yep, they're soo much quicker :p
How's you're commentary btw 7? (on eurosport). I'm going nuts here with all these ancient stories, it's nice to hear but not during a match .. can hardly hear them playing :rolleyes:

Chicken!! they're defending so far back :D

its 14-4 nowto KKK/CCM

Boo! For the first time in my life I can watch international badminton live on tv (as opposed to on comp) but I get a crappy game. The dutch really have no chance, grumble. I wonder if I can get out of going out tonight so I can watch SC all night, I managed to leave early to watch the Bao/Agus match and what I assume was a replay of the XXF match.

Oh yeah, hi all, I'm still alive.

its 14-4 nowto KKK/CCM

Aren't you playing now KKK ;) :D 15-8 MAL 1st

First Set won 15-8 by KKK/CCM for malaysia agaisnt the netherlands

(Sorry if my posts leave the scores a little delayed... im using the tournament websites live scores to track the match. :crying: )

How's you're commentary btw 7? (on eurosport).

I'm not watching the matches :(, but my father is recording them on eurosport so I'll only see them when I can recuperate them...

Line-ups :

XD Zhang Jun/Gao Ling vs F Limpele/Y Tetty

MS Lin Dan vs Kuncoro

WS Xie Xingfang vs Hari S

MD Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs C Wijaya/S Budiarto

WD Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs G Polii/L Natsir

Line-ups :

MS Lee Hyun I vs Peter Gade

WS Seo Y H vs Rasmussen

MD Kim D M/Ha T K vs L Paaske/Rasmussen

WD Lee K W/Lee H J vs H Nielsen/P Harder

XD Lee J J/Ra K M vs J Eriksen/K R Juhl

12-1 now to malaysia... Surely the tie must be won?!

Malaysia to the playoffs, agaisnt japan??

Line-ups :

XD Robertson/Gail Emms vs Songpol A/Kulchala W

MS N Kidd vs Poompat S

WS T Hallam vs Sujitra E

MD A Clark/R Blair vs Patapol N/Songpol A

WD Gail Emms/D Kellogg vs Sathinee C/Kulchala W

Line-ups :

XD A S Njoto/Li W M vs Bergstrom/Persson

MS Ng Wei vs R Wengberg

WS Wang Chen vs S Hansson

MD Liu K W/A S Njoto vs Bergstrom/Andersson

WD Wang Chen/Koon W C vs Bergblom/Persson

12-1 now to malaysia... Surely the tie must be won?!

Malaysia to the playoffs, agaisnt japan??

Yes, against Japan. Whoever wins will be in Group 1 for the next Sudirman Cup. For Malaysia, Japan will be almost like Holland. Malaysia will assume losses in WS and WD, but Malaysia is stronger in MS and MD. So, the tie will, once again, go down to XD, where Malaysia has the slight edge.

Very surprising to see Thailand field their B Team against England!! (this tie is important to avoid relegation)

Otherwise all the other teams have fielded their best team, except for Indonesia...

and now the match agaisnt japan is confirmed, with malaysia winning the Mens Singles, Doubles, and Mixed Doubles, agaisnt holland, guaranteeing them at least a 3-2 win against the netherlands...

only one more step to group one for malaysia!

Yes, against Japan. Whoever wins will be in Group 1 for the next Sudirman Cup. For Malaysia, Japan will be almost like Holland. Malaysia will assume losses in WS and WD, but Malaysia is stronger in MS and MD. So, the tie will, once again, go down to XD, where Malaysia has the slight edge.

Japan's MX is weak so Malaysia has a clear advantage on that match.
There are higher risks of upsets in MS and MD than against Holland however...

I believe that Shoji Sato will not be able to defeat LCW, and that KKK/CCM can take on their mens pair, how are the japanese women players however?

You should have!!! :p
Kelly Morgan and Richard Vaughan are very good players (both have been in the top 10) who featured in Athens Olympics.
Both of them are missing in the team, this is why Wales are so weak this year.

But I still don't understand why these two better known and more experienced players were not in the Welsh team. Could something be wrong? Are they out of favour with the authorities? Leaving them out is a great sacrifice for Wales, IMO. :confused:

But I still don't understand why these two better known and more experienced players were not in the Welsh team. Could something be wrong? Are they out of favour with the authorities? Leaving them out is a great sacrifice for Wales, IMO. :confused:

Richard Vaughan is injured or seriously ill, something like that (has been for many months now).
I don't know about Kelly Morgan, but maybe she is pregnant again? or injured? or retired?

sweet!

http://www.intbadfed.org/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=10&ItemID=1780

I believe that Shoji Sato will not be able to defeat LCW, and that KKK/CCM can take on their mens pair, how are the japanese women players however?

Yes I agree that it will be very difficult for Sato to beat LCW, but do not underestimate the Japanese MD, Masuda/Ohtsuka, who have shown vast improvement under their new famous Korean coach, Park Joo Bong! That goes the same for the less experienced WD pair of Ogura/Shiota and their XD as well.

If PJB had been coaching Japan much longer than now, these doubles pairs will definitely be more hard to beat! Remember PJB has coached the Malaysian team before and will definitely use this experience to full advantage in advising the Japanese team. ;)

Wong Choo Mew will also find Japan's exhilarating newcomer, E Hirose, a great stumbling block in the WS. Chances are Hirose will take this point for Japan.

So, Malaysia can be guaranteed of seemingly one sure point in MS, even if Hafiz is fielded instead of LCW or WCH.

Of late Malaysia's women players have slowly crept up to the reputation of their male counterparts and are perhaps in the best position to help them join the highest ranking in team championships which Malaysia deserves. But to be champion of Group 2 and be promoted, Malaysia must not underestimate Japan,"the Land of Rising Badminton"! ;)

Line-ups :

MS Lee Hyun I vs Peter Gade

WS Seo Y H vs Rasmussen

MD Kim D M/Ha T K vs L Paaske/Rasmussen

WD Lee K W/Lee H J vs H Nielsen/P Harder

XD Lee J J/Ra K M vs J Eriksen/K R Juhl

Very interesting XD coming up... I am surprised to see Eriksen playing with Juhl... Danish media report that Mette Schjoldager is sick, but still.. Laybourn has done a great job recently.. the rest of the matches will of course also be exciting... even though I know I am biased... I believe Denmark has a fair chance in all matches.. with the possible exception of the WD.. but even I still consider the Koreans to be favourites..

Very interesting XD coming up... I am surprised to see Eriksen playing with Juhl... Danish media report that Mette Schjoldager is sick, but still.. Laybourn has done a great job recently.. the rest of the matches will of course also be exciting... even though I know I am biased... I believe Denmark has a fair chance in all matches.. with the possible exception of the WD.. but even I still consider the Koreans to be favourites..

I think this tie is so well-matched that the decider will probably be the last match of the day in the XD, according to the above line-up.

It will be tensed excitement for all those faithfuls concerned right down to the end! May the better team win! :)

I believe that Shoji Sato will not be able to defeat LCW, and that KKK/CCM can take on their mens pair, how are the japanese women players however?

I think we can safely assume that the Japanese will take the two points in the women's events, although sometimes Wong/Chin can play above themselves, like when they defeated a Chinese pair.

I think Sato and the XD pair (the Malaysian XD pair is shaky) are able to create upsets.

Assuming no upsets, it's Malaysia 3-2 and on the the first division.

sweet!

http://www.intbadfed.org/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=10&ItemID=1780

Faster than a Formula One car.

Line-ups :

XD Robertson/Gail Emms vs Songpol A/Kulchala W

MS N Kidd vs Poompat S

WS T Hallam vs Sujitra E

MD A Clark/R Blair vs Patapol N/Songpol A

WD Gail Emms/D Kellogg vs Sathinee C/Kulchala W

Quite surprised at Thailand. At full strength, they can take the MS and WD points. England takes WS and XD, so up to MD. Thailand's MD is not weak. Maybe they foresee that they will lose in the MD, so rest their stars for the do-or-die tie tomorrow.

Also considering that they will probably meet Sweden, they may be fairly confident, so they can throw today's tie and make sure their players are in tip-top form tomorrow just to be sure.

Line-ups :

...

XD Lee J J/Ra K M vs J Eriksen/K R Juhl

I think this is something of a gamble! :confused:
They should have let Thomas play together with Kamilla IMHO, but lets see what happens.

Lineups in MS, WS, MD and LD is logical.

May the best team win :)

Interesting. I don't think Kamilla reads the game as well as Mette, but she's faster and she's stronger in the rear court. And considering that "Old Eagle" (Jens) is quite keen to follow up attacks to the net (even in MX), that's probably not a bad thing. But Jens is not easy to play with, be is so unorthodox -- in all aspects. :D

Prior to the Sudirman Cup, the coaches will have made sure that all pair combinations have been tried in training. Hopefully they know what they're doing.

Gade is trailing against Lee Hyun Il... 8-13
If Gade loses this one, the tie's settled after one match!
:eek:

Quite surprised at Thailand. At full strength, they can take the MS and WD points. England takes WS and XD, so up to MD. Thailand's MD is not weak. Maybe they foresee that they will lose in the MD, so rest their stars for the do-or-die tie tomorrow.

Also considering that they will probably meet Sweden, they may be fairly confident, so they can throw today's tie and make sure their players are in tip-top form tomorrow just to be sure.

yep, IMO they rest their players for the do or die match tommz. no disrespect to sweden but i think that thailand will be the survivor.

WOOOHOOO!!!
Sweden takes 1st game of the MX 17-14! :D
Go go go! (No, I don't think Sweden can beat HK but still...)


And the Indons are putting up a good fight against Zhang/Gao... Flandy/Tetty lead 14-12 in 1st game!
:eek:

And Gade lost 1st game 9-15... :eek:

/.../ no disrespect to sweden but i think that thailand will be the survivor.

Yes, most likely. :(

China vs Ina.

Mxd 1st game . ZJ starts at his usual 100mph pace. It gets them 7-0 up.
Not the greastest of games. Ina pulls back. ZJ lifting way too much and puts GL under pressure. Lets Flandy start to control the rallies. Tetty not bad either. SHe can handle ZJ's smashes.

Wow, my first time watching Flandy plays XD and he plays really smart, lots of good placement and cross court shots(smash, net drops)...Seems to be more stable than Yunita's previous partner (Anggun Nugroho)..Like Cheung said, he seems to know "how to control" the pace of the game..And seems to be playing with ease and have less "stage-panic" than Nova W...

[QUOTE=Mag]WOOOHOOO!!!
And the Indons are putting up a good fight against Zhang/Gao... Flandy/Tetty lead 14-12 in 1st game!
QUOTE]

good to see Lee back... If korea reaches the final he will again be the man who HAS to win if Korea again will succeed.. I think it will be very hard for any team to beat Lee/ra and Ha/kim so korea has almost to secure points with the last coming from Lee og the LD.. Perhaps Korea can match China :o

Gade is trailing against Lee Hyun Il... 8-13
If Gade loses this one, the tie's settled after one match!
:eek:

I wonder why they played Gade when Jonassen seemed in so good form.
This might be the mistake that will cost victory to Denmark... well, let's wait and see anyway ;)

ZJ way too anxious. He's not 'thinking' on court. Wants to get the points over and done with. Cannot do that with Flandy. In fact, this is a weakness of ZJ over the years.

agree with Ctjcad... Flandy is a very smart player and I seriosly dont understand why a lot of the BFérs consider FLandy and Eng as an over the hill pair. They where the only one who could beat Kim and Ha and can match the danes and Cai/Fu

wow! surprise win in the MX for France : Lefort/Rahmawati beat Denney/Wilson-Smith 15-13 15-13

This key match might well give victory to France as WS can be considered already won, only one match out of three is now needed...

Yeah why not field Jonassen.. Everybody knows how hard it is for gade to play this defence players like Lee and Roslin.. And the way Jonassen thrashed Boonsak yesterday I dont think a lot of players are able to beat him, perhaps not even Taufik and Lin Dan

I wonder why they played Gade when Jonassen seemed in so good form.
This might be the mistake that will cost victory to Denmark... well, let's wait and see anyway ;)

Well, they have to find out what kind of form Gade is in, don't they? And besides, it would be stupid not to rotate the players around during group play.

Anyway, Gade will win in the end. :p

perhaps you´re right Mag. 10-8 in the second for Gade ;)

Well, they have to find out what kind of form Gade is in, don't they? And besides, it would be stupid not to rotate the players around during group play.

Anyway, Gade will win in the end. :p

They should maybe have tested his form on a less important match.
The loser of this tie will probably bump into China in the semis, so better win it! ;)

perhaps you´re right Mag. 10-8 in the second for Gade ;)

Maybe but he will probably lose if the pressure gets too strong (tight third game for example).

Lee is the type of player who can make wonders under pressure, Gade is the opposite... (often collapses under pressure)

11-11 :eek: ... Come on Gade!! studying math besides.. very boring

Sweden won the MX over Hong Kong. I'd say that Sweden could also win the WD, so if only Rasmus gets his act together and beats Ng Wei... :D
Actually, Bergström/Andersson could well win the MD too... They have taken a few good scalps before, which can hardly be said about Njoto/Liu -- no offense. :)

12-12 Gade to serve

hmm I seem to remember Liu/Njoto managing a few big upsets, I can't remember exactly though...
but I agree on your point, Sweden can win this tie...

It looks like Flandy and Tetty are being outclassed now... :rolleyes: (9-2 for China in the decider)

14-12 for gade.. go golden boy

The live score seems to be stuck at 12-12!?:( :mad: :(

going for a rubber... gade wn 15-12

going for a rubber... gade wn 15-12
JUHHHUUUUUUUUUUU!!! I think Gade will win! :D :) ;)

They should maybe have tested his form on a less important match.
The loser of this tie will probably bump into China in the semis, so better win it! ;)

Don't forget that the "official" goal for the Danes is to go with a medal. Thus, if they reach the semis it's "mission accomplished". :)

Gade won 2nd game, btw. :D

Chn wins their mixed match. ZJ plays 'smarter'. In the 3rd game, he took some pace off his smashes, played some steeper smashes, played some soft shots and then mixed it up with his power play. This then gave Chn a big advantage.

Gade 5-0 up now in decider. He's cruising now. :D

1-6 perhaps Lee is running out of steam or Gade has just turned up the pace as his usual main weapon

ohh no... 3-6! Lee getting closer! :(

hmm I seem to remember Liu/Njoto managing a few big upsets, I can't remember exactly though...
but I agree on your point, Sweden can win this tie...
Sigit and Candra in Japan Open 1st round. But that was a long time ago!

Ow, 7-6 now... :eek:

Ow, 7-6 now... :eek:
Come on Peter... 8-6

Now Peter is playing very fast! 11-6... :eek: :eek: :eek:

Match Point!!!!! :D :D :D

Come on Peter... 8-6

What a lovely finish... 15-6 Peter...

Peter wins 15-6 in the decider! Wonderfull!

gade won! we still better...:D

it's over, peter proves he's the man!!!

just proves that we can still count on him as a thread to the chinese and Taufik.. he's also only 28 which in danish terms isnt a high age.

sony is giving lin dan a hard time...

please keep us updated about the score between sony and lin

super dan is loosing 10 -11

sony is putting up a tough fight, sony leading 12-11

was reported that China's XD ZJ have a record smash of 317km/h

Wonder what these chinese players eat to give them their super smashes... :eek:

damn exciting match between LD & Sony...Sony still leading 13-12

flandy played xd in local tournament before.
sometimes good to field new pairing so the opponent would not have experience playing them before


Wow, my first time watching Flandy plays XD and he plays really smart, lots of good placement and cross court shots(smash, net drops)...Seems to be more stable than Yunita's previous partner (Anggun Nugroho)..Like Cheung said, he seems to know "how to control" the pace of the game..And seems to be playing with ease and have less "stage-panic" than Nova W...

[QUOTE=Mag]WOOOHOOO!!!
And the Indons are putting up a good fight against Zhang/Gao... Flandy/Tetty lead 14-12 in 1st game!
QUOTE]

gee.LD fought back and leads 14-13

Lin Dan leading 15-14 ......

LD leading 16-14

Wonder what these chinese players eat to give them their super smashes... :eek:

hehe - i bet it's not just the chinese players. as kwun said in yesterdays report when blair and clark were play Ha and ???? 'one of the england players has a big smash'

i'd be very interested to see how big robert blair's smash is.
and jens eriksens....

and sigit's...

they all have huge smashes..

LD leading 16-14

Mmm. He won yet?? I'm waiting for that one...

Quite surprised at Thailand. At full strength, they can take the MS and WD points. England takes WS and XD, so up to MD. Thailand's MD is not weak. Maybe they foresee that they will lose in the MD, so rest their stars for the do-or-die tie tomorrow.

Also considering that they will probably meet Sweden, they may be fairly confident, so they can throw today's tie and make sure their players are in tip-top form tomorrow just to be sure.

What a disappointing attitude. This match could have been pretty exciting.
And it's not as if Sweden are going to be much of a threat, so there's not really much need to rest the players.:(

Hell!who does lin think he is coming back and taking the game ..like it was nothing!!gr8 relief to the 'bonkers ' gone crowd, i guess:p

LD won the first set....what an exciting game!!! both players have displayed what a world class players are made off....

17-14 for Lin Dan!

DEN vs KOR, the WS is very tight too, 10 all between Tine Rasmussen and Seo Yoon Hee...

Eventhough Sony lost the 1st set, I thought he played well esp. controlling at net, considering this is his first time playing internationally and in a real tournament in quite a while...Whilst Lin Dan seems to be inconsistent, esp. at net play..Quite a few self-errors committed by LinDan and I noticed Lin Dan changed his racquet 2-3 times already in the 1st set and looking at the lights above a couple of times as if it's bothering him..
Don't know how long Sony can keep up though, if it's going to be a long/rubber set match, as he's a bit huffing and puffing.. :rolleyes:

so wat's the overall score now btw korea and denmark?

so wat's the overall score now btw korea and denmark?

1-0 for Denmark....

What a disappointing attitude. This match could have been pretty exciting.
And it's not as if Sweden are going to be much of a threat, so there's not really much need to rest the players.:(

It might not be Sweden in the relegation playoff...they're giving HK a run for their money (apart from WS :rolleyes: )!!

Logic prevails and Wang Chen bring Hong Kong to a 2-1 lead over Sweden, by thrashing Sweden's 2nd stringer WS Sofia Hansson by 11-0, 11-1...

MD next. I'd say it's still an open tie...

Ouch, Denmark loses 1st game in WS 13-10... Not good! :crying:

I have a feeling Denmark will finish ahead of Korea and face Indonesia in the Semis....Hopefully they'll meet in the Semis..
If they are played, Candra/Sigit have said a few weeks before the SC and will look forward to a rematch against JEriksen/MLHansen.. :cool:

so wat's the overall score now btw korea and denmark?

ne1 know what the result for MxD china vs indo????

China won in 3 sets against Indo (2nd team)...They lost the 1st set but won the last 2..

ne1 know what the result for MxD china vs indo????

ne1 know what the result for MxD china vs indo????

china won 2-1 but not an easy game as the Indo is as good

ne1 know what the result for MxD china vs indo????

China won in 3 games

How about Denmark and Korea?

1 -1
Kor wins WS
Den MS
How about Denmark and Korea?

England won WS against Thailand

sony looks so lazy during the entire second set. he just gave up and gifted the last a few points to lindan.

sony seems gave up after 10-10..final score lin dan 15-10

1 -1
Kor wins WS
Den MS

Don't know if it's just an error with the score board, but it seems like Tine Rasmussen had to retire. *sigh* not again... She's so injury prone, that girl! :(


Liu/Njoto are thrashing Bergström/Andersson... 15-4 in 1st game. There goes the tie! *ouch*

yes she retire and have to leave the hall with a wheelchair

What about MD between Denmark and Korea now?

are you guys able to watch the live streaming? I'm having problems...help! I downloaded and installed the program already but the channel screen doesn't pop up...what should I do??

any denmark vs korea results??

One all after MS and WS.

MD : Kim/Ha are leading 6-3 against Lars/JR
If they win, the tie is just about won for Korea as they will obviously take the WD!

are you guys able to watch the live streaming? I'm having problems...help! I downloaded and installed the program already but the channel screen doesn't pop up...what should I do??

wait for at lease 5-10mins...mine's the same, but it's definately worth the wait

are you guys able to watch the live streaming? I'm having problems...help! I downloaded and installed the program already but the channel screen doesn't pop up...what should I do??

At the beginning it is very slow. Just wait.

MD is very tight between England and Thailand.
England leading 2-1, Thais are not allowed any mistake now...

are you guys able to watch the live streaming? I'm having problems...help! I downloaded and installed the program already but the channel screen doesn't pop up...what should I do??
turn the old one off..and click a new one

Kor 7 - 3 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

yes she retire and have to leave the hall with a wheelchair

Oh no. The Danes certainly didn't need that. If she had to be wheeled out it could mean a ruptured Achilles tendon. :crying: :eek:

Kor 7 - 3 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

If Denmark lose, how can they be against China?
:(

Come on, JR/Lars! Losing is not an option. :eek:

Thailand won the first game of MD 15-9 !

Kor 9 - 8 Den (first serve)
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

he seems to listen to you Mag.. 8-9 now

If Denmark lose, how can they be against China?
:(

It's hard to compare those teams.

In my opinion, Kim/Ha is a much stronger pair than Fu/Cai.

Against Korea, the Danes needed badly to win that WS. Against China, the Danes' "must-win" matches are MS, MD, MX.

Any updates on the HK vs Sweden tie?

Kor 10 - 9 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

It's a very tight match.

Umm, why don't CCTV5 broadcast MD between DEN and KOR but focus on the WS which is not exciting?

Kor 10 - 9 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

It's a very tight match.

Where can I watch this game on line?

Any updates on the HK vs Sweden tie?

HK won the tie. It's 3-1 now, MD was 15-4, 15-6 (I was obviously talking out of my hat), so the MX outcome doesn't matter.

Kor 10 - 13 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

DEN leading 13-10

Umm, why don't CCTV5 broadcast MD between DEN and KOR but focus on the WS which is not exciting?

You are asking: "why is a Chinese channel showing Chinese players?"
:p

Go go go JR/Lars!
:eek:

Any updates on the HK vs Sweden tie?
3:1
Hong kong won already

Umm, why don't CCTV5 broadcast MD between DEN and KOR but focus on the WS which is not exciting?
u hv to relaized where r they play..it is in china

You are asking: "why is a Chinese channel showing Chinese players?"
:p

But the WS now is really boring...

Thailand won the first game of MD 15-9 !

England won the second game 15-0 !!! :eek: ... ??????? :confused:

England won the second game 15-0 !!! :eek: ... ??????? :confused:

Uggggghhh collapse:(. If only we'd put on our A team...

But the WS now is really boring...

Fransisca Ratnasari seems to be giving a good fight however!? (11-5 for Xie in the first game)

Kor 11 - 14 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen

Fransisca Ratnasari seems to be giving a good fight however!? (11-5 for Xie in the first game)
She kept running and running....

Fransisca Ratnasari seems to be giving a good fight however!? (11-5 for Xie in the first game)

Xie is leading 5-0

Kor 11 - 14 Den
Kim/Ha Paaske/Rasmussen
Good news!
Now they are talking about love couples in badminton....

hopely cctv5 will show mens double after xie winning her second set:D


it should be a great game between fu/cai vs candra/sigit:cool:

hopely cctv5 will show mens double after xie winning her second set:D


it should be a great game between fu/cai vs candra/sigit:cool:

Then no hope to show that...

Jonas/Lars leading 7-1.. very impressive

Looks like Lars/JR are going to bring the tie to 2-1 in favour of Denmark...

France beat Australia 3-1 and will play against Switzerland for promotion in group 3. (should win that one easily...)

Jonas/Lars leading 7-1.. very impressive

Did Jonas/Lars won the first game???

11:0 in the second set of WS

Did Jonas/Lars won the first game???
Yes, you are right!

dududududud OUT! matchpoint for DEN

Did Jonas/Lars won the first game???
yes..they did..and leadin in the 2nd game

2-1 now the WD and then the final battle in XD.. sad that Tine got injured :(

damn it..they r not goin 2 show the next game.........i knew it..after 3-0.....:mad:

Are you all watching CCTV5? Including the advertisement?

Any reports on the fastest smashes for today? perhaps ha tae kwon?

Are you all watching CCTV5? Including the advertisement?
yes...coz stupid american won' broadcast badmintin

So the MX will be decisive in DEN vs KOR. Jens can cope with the pressure, but can Kamilla? :eek:

Can't we just skip the WD? It's a mere formality anyway. :D

wow:eek: ..denmark 15-3 took 2nd set in men's double...kim must be out of shape..

yes...coz stupid american won' broadcast badmintin

I am always disappointed with CCTV5, including their performance in Olympic 2004

hurrah - looks like england beat thailand, taking the MD, XD and WS, just teh WD to play, we lost the MS (surprise surprise...)

I wonder if this will entice Kim and Ra to come back into competition...

:(
No game to watch now!
I hate CCTV5, always ignoring badminton

denmark won in mens doubles..............!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

wat we need now is other channel broadcasting the games on cool streaming :D

wat we need now is other channel broadcasting the games on cool streaming :D
What about Guangdong Sports Channel?

What about Guangdong Sports Channel?
nope..i just saw it..news only:(
no more badminton:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Cai/Fu leading 11-8 against Candra/Sigit...

In WD, it seems Denmark will lose soon

Oh no. The Danes certainly didn't need that. If she had to be wheeled out it could mean a ruptured Achilles tendon. :crying: :eek:

It was just confirmed that Tine indeed did tear her Achilles tendon...
Terrible. That means she will be out of competition for at least 9 months. :eek: :crying:

They are flying her home tomorrow.

Bad news for Tine!!! :(

The mixed doubles will be decisive. The pressure is on two scratch pairs, that's funny! :)

It was just confirmed that Tine indeed did tear her Achilles tendon...
Terrible. That means she will be out of competition for at least 9 months. :eek: :crying:

They are flying her home tomorrow.
A terrible injury. Wonder if she can really get the motivation to play top level again.

Anyway, it seems that Jens and Kamilla are on fire. 12-4 already!
:D

Go Denmark!
Go "Old Eagle"!

wow, cai/fu are on fire..

they won in straight sets 15-10, 15-10

fantastic.. the most amazing player around right now is in my opinion Jens Eriksen.. turned 35 he plays better than ever and with a consistency he never possesed before. Simply amazing... how many can do that in an age of 35

fantastic.. the most amazing player around right now is in my opinion Jens Eriksen.. turned 35 he plays better than ever and with a consistency he never possesed before. Simply amazing... how many can do that in an age of 35

*ahem* the match isn't over yet... :D
But I agree. Jens is remarkable.

*ahem* the match isn't over yet... :D


8-1 to Danes in second set...may well be over soon:D

what's the score now?

13-1... They are scoring faster than I can type. :D

Yeah go Denmark.. Eriksen is da man! :cool:

China is about to steamroll Indonesia 5-0. :eek:
Well, it's "only" group stage yet...
Sony Dwi put up a valiant fight, though.

Yeah go Denmark.. Eriksen is da man! :cool:

go Denmark!!!!!!!!!

15:2
Denmark win!
Yeah!

did denmark win the first set in MXD??

did denmark win the first set in MXD??
15:7
15:2
I can't believe!
I thought Denmark will lose for Ra is really strong!

games over 4 today (tonite..china time)

let 's see what is goin on tomorrow

anyone know tomorrow schedule?? :confused:

15:7
15:2
I can't believe!
I thought Denmark will lose for Ra is really strong!

wow~~well done!!!!!!!

anyone know tomorrow schedule?? :confused:
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