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Day 4 will determine the rankings of teams in each of group 2-5. the top team will be promoted to the higher group, while the bottom team will be demoted to the lower group in the 2007 Sudirman Cup.
Group 1 demotion - Thailand vs. Sweden
Group 2 promotion - Malaysia vs. Japan
Group 2 demotion - Russia vs. Ukraine
Group 3 promotion - India vs. Poland
Group 3 demotion - Bulgaria vs. Wales
Group 4 promotion - Switzerland vs. France
Group 4 demotion - Norway vs. Peru
Group 5 promotion - Italy vs. Lithuania
Group 5 demotion - Cyrus vs. Turkey
demolidor 05-12-2005, 04:52 PM Group 1 5/6 - England vs. Hong Kong China (ahh Kwun was going for promotion/demotion only right?! :o )
Group 1 5/6 - England vs. Hong Kong China (ahh Kwun was going for promotion/demotion only right?! :o )
yeah. i see promotion/demotion is more significant than the internal group rankings.
Yap Kim Hock got his wish, Malaysia against Japan and avoiding Singapore. Now lets hope history doesn't repeat itself like in 2003. I think Wong Choon Hann will be use as Mix Doubles again so Koo Kean Keat can concetrate on MD. As for MS, I think both Hafiz and Lee Chong Wei will do the job aginast Sato but I rather field Lee Chong Wei than Hafiz for stability.
May the force be with Team Malaysia!
KourKK 05-12-2005, 06:55 PM For the group one demotion, i see thailand beating the Swedes 3-2 or 4-1, i dont think an upset for the Swedes is likely.
For Group 2, i think malaysia could edge out japan (hopefully) And like Han said, i think that LCW will be fielded for singles, with WCH possibly partnering WPT for Mixed, leaving KKK and CCM to tackle the mens doubles, I dont think that Sato will be capable of a fight agaisnt Hafiz or LCW, but its much more even for the other 4 matches, although i think the malaysian women could clinch promotion for the malaysians
Qidong 05-12-2005, 07:12 PM As for MS, I think both Hafiz and Lee Chong Wei will do the job aginast Sato but I rather field Lee Chong Wei than Hafiz for stability.
May the force be with Team Malaysia!
I watch Sato play WCH on your AE05 dvd. This guy is super fast, even faster than Lin Dan and LCW, but just make many mistakes. Malaysian team better not over confident.
Day 4 will determine the rankings of teams in each of group 2-5. the top team will be promoted to the higher group, while the bottom team will be demoted to the lower group in the 2007 Sudirman Cup.
Group 1 demotion - Thailand vs. Sweden
Group 2 promotion - Malaysia vs. Japan
Group 2 demotion - Russia vs. Ukraine
Group 3 promotion - India vs. Poland
Group 3 demotion - Bulgaria vs. Wales
Group 4 promotion - Switzerland vs. France
Group 4 demotion - Norway vs. Peru
Group 5 promotion - Italy vs. Lithuania
Group 5 demotion - Cyrus vs. Turkey
So only one country can be promoted and demoted for every two years the Sudirman Cup is played.
With eight teams competing in each group, wouldn't it be more challenging and fairer for two to be promoted and demoted, I wonder? :)
The waiting time of two years is a bit long, unless they change it to one year. Then the present rule may be more acceptable.
kyiyu 05-12-2005, 09:11 PM Agreed with your opinion.
With current rules, the bottom team needs 8 to 10 years to get the top flight which is almost equal or longer than a player's prime time.
Like Pi Honyan, she might not have chance at all to play in top flight, even the France team improve drastically by miracle.
Tournament should have more team for promotion / demotion.
So only one country can be promoted and demoted for every two years the Sudirman Cup is played.
With eight teams competing in each group, wouldn't it be more challenging and fairer for two to be promoted and demoted, I wonder? :)
The waiting time of two years is a bit long, unless they change it to one year. Then the present rule may be more acceptable.
nobody's following?
Singapore is 2-0 up against Netherlands. one point from XD, one point from MS.
Li Li is now playing Van Cutsen (huh? what happened to Yao Jie?) and won first game already.
hcyong 05-12-2005, 10:16 PM nobody's following?
Singapore is 2-0 up against Netherlands. one point from XD, one point from MS.
Li Li is now playing Van Cutsen (huh? what happened to Yao Jie?) and won first game already.
Like you said, it's a meaningless tie for both Singapore and Holland.
nobody's following?
Singapore is 2-0 up against Netherlands. one point from XD, one point from MS.
Li Li is now playing Van Cutsen (huh? what happened to Yao Jie?) and won first game already.
Would have loved to watch, but can't take another day off from the office. I was indoors whole of yesterday to watch the morning and evening proceedings.
But I will certainly not miss this evening's quarterfinals 2.
Although the match between Singapore and Netherlands doesn't mean much in that not much is at stake in term of promotion/demotion, it is still interesting to see our players in action.
Sealman 05-12-2005, 10:44 PM Singapore 3-0. Well done :)
hcyong 05-12-2005, 11:00 PM Russia and Ukraine are tied at 2-2. Whoever loses the WD match will drop to Group 3.
Netasia 05-12-2005, 11:26 PM Congratulations SINGAPORE!!!:D
any singaporean notice how our local TV news media supported badminton by NOT reporting any outcome at all?:mad:
However the TV news sure cover a lot of tennis, golf etc...which I can say is less popular here.
I thought the SCV has coverage of Singapore badminton in action? I wonder how can we influence Yahoo so the Sudimran Cup results will be posted there? Any idea, Kwun?
I thought the SCV has coverage of Singapore badminton in action? I wonder how can we influence Yahoo so the Sudimran Cup results will be posted there? Any idea, Kwun?
yahoo? why yahoo?
I thought the SCV has coverage of Singapore badminton in action? I wonder how can we influence Yahoo so the Sudimran Cup results will be posted there? Any idea, Kwun?
Yes, we do have coverage yesterday morning and evening. Same for today.
SuperSports (Ch 22) telecasts the QF1 at 9.30 am and the QF2 at 7 pm.
Tomorrow will be another day of badminton feast and in addition, the earlier tie between Singapore and Germany will be shown at 5 am, early morning, followed by the Semi Finals.
Can't complain much over here as far as live telecasts of the SC is concerned!
As to news coverage, we do have some when Singapore plays. :)
Or Google, at least these are the most popular sites visited by millions. For example, if I wish to find out the results of Tennis, I know for sure these two sites will have the latest. Certainly BF has provided the service in that area on most tournaments but still have many smaller tournaments where results can hardly be found within reasonable time? This is one way to mainstream badminton, in my opinion.
I recall long time ago someone requested San Jose Mercury News to put the CA open results on newspaper(Back then there was a CA Golden Bear tournament annually at Sunnyvale Sports Community Center) for the same reason.
Big name sponsor like Nike will take notice about this sport if coverage is enough not just from TV, also some other media.
hcyong 05-13-2005, 12:53 AM Thailand v Sweden
There is not much that Sweden can do to avoid the drop. XD is their strongest area and Thailand will still get the point for it. It is very probable that Thailand will finish the tie 3-0.
hcyong 05-13-2005, 01:17 AM Malaysia v Japan
Malaysia's perspective on opponents is like this:
Will very likely lose against:
China, Korea, Denmark, Indonesia
Will have a good fight against:
Thailand (narrow win with MS, MD, WS), England (narrow win/loss with MS, MD, WD maybe), Japan (narrow win with MS, MD, XD), Netherlands (narrow win with MS, MD, XD) - can be narrow losses as well
Will most likely defeat:
Sweden, Hong Kong (just lose WS), Singapore and others
As you can see, I don't agree with Yap Kim Hock who said Japan would be easier than Singapore. Singapore does not have a single sure point against Malaysia, even with Li Yujia around. A Malaysia 5-0 sweep will not be surprising to me.
With Japan, however, if Malaysia were to win 5-0, I will be quite surprised. Their WS and WD are much stronger than Singapore's. Their MS may be a bit weaker, but Malaysia's MS is too strong for either team anyway. Malaysia's MD is weaker than usual for Malaysia, and Japan is more in the position to take advantage than Singapore. Significantly for the Malaysia v Japan tie, the Japanese XD is weaker than Singapore's and this may decide the tie for Malaysia. However, with Japan, Malaysia cannot afford a single slip-up. Against Singapore, if Malaysia slip up in MS or XD, the chance for recovery in WS and WD is quite significant. Against Japan, there is no second chance. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Yes, Malaysia must not underestimate the Japanese ladies who impressed during their tie against Singapore.
I still think this is a very tight 50/50 result. Park Joo Bong is the man that will cause a lot of headache to the Malaysian doubles pairs, and there are three points out of five. He has coached in Malaysia and knows their game well. It will be an absorbing chess game between Yap Kim Hock and PJB. Whoever has the right strategy will prevail.
Assuming the MS will go to Malaysia and the WS to Japan, the outcome in the doubles will tilt the balance. Whatever it is, I wouldn't want to miss this tie. Hopefully, it will be the one shown on our cable TV this evening! :)
Assuming the MS will go to Malaysia and the WS to Japan, the outcome in the doubles will tilt the balance. Whatever it is, I wouldn't want to miss this tie. Hopefully, it will be the one shown on our cable TV this evening! :)
you are in luck. according to CCTV5 schedule, that's the tie that is scheduled to be broadcasted.
the question is, how is it possible for me to watch this 4am in the morning?
you are in luck. according to CCTV5 schedule, that's the tie that is scheduled to be broadcasted.
the question is, how is it possible for me to watch this 4am in the morning?
Retire early or don't sleep at all. Remember the next day is Sat, an off-day. But it doesn't mean you can compensate by sleeping late on Sat since the QF will be telecast!
Your choice badminton or sleep??? :crying:
Netasia 05-13-2005, 03:12 AM have a better idea...you can try watching the match in your dreams? :p
have a better idea...you can try watching the match in your dreams? :p
I wonder who he'll choose to win? :D
seven 05-13-2005, 03:40 AM one all, Tracey Hallam should give a second point to England in WS...
... but why is Wang Chen not playing??? same thing for Robertson? (injured?)
one all, Tracey Hallam should give a second point to England in WS...
... but why is Wang Chen not playing??? same thing for Robertson? (injured?)
and she did. the HK girl was too inconsistent.
Blair/Clark is now playing Liu/Njoto. the English are making the HK'ers look like amateurs in the first game.
seven 05-13-2005, 03:56 AM Two other ties are still being played :
Bulgaria vs Wales, 2 all, XD is decisive (loser will be relegated to group 4)
New Zealand vs USA, 2 all, WD is decisive
Jonno 05-13-2005, 04:34 AM one all, Tracey Hallam should give a second point to England in WS...
... but why is Wang Chen not playing??? same thing for Robertson? (injured?)
England win 3-1, so finish 5th. On TV it said that Robertson was rested as he had a slight injury, and I have no idea why Wang Chen wasn't playing.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 04:38 AM For Group 2, i think malaysia could edge out japan (hopefully) And like Han said, i think that LCW will be fielded for singles, with WCH possibly partnering WPT for Mixed, leaving KKK and CCM to tackle the mens doubles, I dont think that Sato will be capable of a fight agaisnt Hafiz or LCW, but its much more even for the other 4 matches, although i think the malaysian women could clinch promotion for the malaysians[/QUOTE]
you are right, WCH/WPT against Ikeda/Matsuda & LCW is fielded against Sato. the first match must not be missed.
demolidor 05-13-2005, 05:10 AM England win 3-1, so finish 5th. On TV it said that Robertson was rested as he had a slight injury, and I have no idea why Wang Chen wasn't playing.
Maybe because Yi p py had more to gain from the match in terms of rankingpoints since tho whole tie is about nothing anyway.
Maybe because Yi p py had more to gain from the match in terms of rankingpoints since tho whole tie is about nothing anyway.
and experience as well. Yi has pretty OK techniques. but appeared rather nervous and inconsistent. certainly a very athletic badminton player with a pretty wild jumpsmash for a lady.
coops241180 05-13-2005, 05:27 AM England win 3-1, so finish 5th. On TV it said that Robertson was rested as he had a slight injury, and I have no idea why Wang Chen wasn't playing.
yeah, robertson has been carrying a shoulder injury since just after the all england...
his masters performance and the tournament following that (japan open?) where he pulled out of both mixed and mens are testament to his injury - whats scary is that it's only been about 14 months since his last shoulder operation...
oh well - bob blair seems to be growing into a good replacement - not quite to the touch and deception as robertson - but he certainly has more power :)
demolidor 05-13-2005, 05:34 AM and experience as well. Yi has pretty OK techniques. but appeared rather nervous and inconsistent. certainly a very athletic badminton player with a pretty wild jumpsmash for a lady.
You are right! I actually thought she was a boy when I saw her on court in the Swiss Open with a hugely oversized t-shirt on and the short hair :D
hcyong 05-13-2005, 05:57 AM and she did. the HK girl was too inconsistent.
Blair/Clark is now playing Liu/Njoto. the English are making the HK'ers look like amateurs in the first game.
I think the HK team this year is quite weak. If they were in the same group with England or Thailand, they would have been bottom of the group. But luck put them with Sweden who were the only one in Group 1 weaker than them.
match about to start. lineup:
WongCH playing mixed.... :O
Japanese team of Ikeda/Matsuda is losing out in both speed and accuracy.
WongCH seems very comfortable playing mixed.
score is now 10-0 to Malaysia.
coops241180 05-13-2005, 06:09 AM i wouldn't say they were weak as such. they was it Agus Haryanto that played singles for them against Ghaffar. I think the mens and mixed pairings in england are enjoying a bit of a boom at the moment, robert blair is providing some much needed youth and firepower. ladies doubles and singles wise: womens doubles seems to be doing better, but i don't have a lot of confidence in either of our ladies pairs altho donna and gail look quite strong, but both are plagued by injury as nathan and simon are.
ladies singles is going okay - tracey is enjoying a high point, and liz cann seems to be lining herself up to take tracey's spot.
so things are going well for english badminton :) there are some promising youngsters too coming through in all disciplines too :)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:09 AM Malaysia leading 10-5 first game!
match about to start. lineup:
WongCH playing mixed.... :O
match about to start. lineup:
WongCH playing mixed.... :O
So Kwun is able to stay up. I just woke up and am sleepy. Also, my allergies make my eyes watery.
Ron
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:15 AM Ended up the first game 15-7 to Malaysia.
Malaysia leading 10-5 first game!
wl2172 05-13-2005, 06:17 AM Thank you. Please keep the scores updated here. live scoring is bad.
sitting at the coaches bench:
Park Joo Bong, Li Mao, Yap Kim Hock.
So Kwun is able to stay up. I just woke up and am sleepy. Also, my allergies make my eyes watery.
Ron
cannot let sleep get in the way of badminton.
i don't think i will last till the end though, but then that pretty Japanese girl is playing the last match... :crying: ;)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:20 AM second game 4-3 led by Malaysia Thank you. Please keep the scores updated here. live scoring is bad.
wong pei tty always looks like she just came back from a marathon.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:23 AM 7-3 by wong/wong
second game 4-3 led by Malaysia
both Japanese players have pretty good defense. WongCH's smashes aren't penetrating too well. granted that he is a singles player.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 06:25 AM wong pei tty always looks like she just came back from a marathon.
ha ha.. this a sharp contrast with wong mew choo ;)
ha ha.. this a sharp contrast with wong mew choo ;)
noticed:
Chinese has many Zhang's.
Malaysia has many Wong's.
?
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:28 AM still at 7-3 by wongs
ha ha.. this a sharp contrast with wong mew choo ;)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:28 AM quick 2 points and now 9-3 by wongsstill at 7-3 by wongs
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 06:29 AM noticed:
Chinese has many Zhang's.
Malaysia has many Wong's.
?
wong is one of the big surname in malaysia/singapore ethnic chinese
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:29 AM seems that belong to wongs now at 11-3quick 2 points and now 9-3 by wongs
cannot let sleep get in the way of badminton.
i don't think i will last till the end though, but then that pretty Japanese girl is playing the last match... :crying: ;)
Part of me want to see that match, but part of me hope that the women's double match is unnecessary. If Malaysia is to win, the women's doubles should be unnecessary. Malaysia should win in XD, MS, and MD.
Ron
WongPT is a pretty good net player. fast and accurate, very fast crosscourt net. but too gentle, lack some fierceness.
WongCH is using cab21 still.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:33 AM over now. Wongs beated Jpn second game at 15-4seems that belong to wongs now at 11-3
this is a pretty good mixed match. good court awareness and shot production on both side, add to that fast court coverage. pity the japanese are less consistent and often get caught by the fast pace and ended up with low quality returns.
pepper007 05-13-2005, 06:33 AM ha ha.. this a sharp contrast with wong mew choo ;)
to be honest do you all think Wong MC is pretty or not?? :p
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:36 AM Warming up for MS. LCW from Malaysia vs Sato from JPNover now. Wongs beated Jpn second game at 15-4
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:37 AM OK atleast comparing to the others lady players:rolleyes: to be honest do you all think Wong MC is pretty or not?? :p
this is a pretty good mixed match. good court awareness and shot production on both side, add to that fast court coverage. pity the japanese are less consistent and often get caught by the fast pace and ended up with low quality returns.
For a scratch pair, Wong CH seems to combine well with Wong PT. The Japanese pair made too many simple errors like leaving a shot that is in.
Looks like the hard game is over for Malaysia and Malaysia should be able to beat Japan with MS and MD, and maybe MS [:D].
Ron
seven 05-13-2005, 06:39 AM Poland and India are playing for promotion to group 2.
Poland have a very good team this year (except the WS), they seem to have good chances of joining group 2.
Mixed doubles went to Poland 15-12 15-5, that's 1-0 with MS to start...
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 06:39 AM to be honest do you all think Wong MC is pretty or not?? :p
not likely but above average of women players. i prefer her playing beautifully..:p
over now. Wongs beated Jpn second game at 15-4
consistency, speed and shot quality is what made the Japanese lose. the Japanese have some good shots but they failed to string them together. often injects a couple of low quality returns and end up losing the rally.
they defended well against Wong which should be a big plus for them. but the Japanese guy's offense isn't very penetrating either.
Matsuda is definitely slower than WongPT at the net and again lacking in consistency.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:41 AM LCW leading 2-0Warming up for MS. LCW from Malaysia vs Sato from JPN
pepper007 05-13-2005, 06:41 AM not likely but above average of women players. i prefer her playing beautifully..:p
can't wait to see good looking malaysian woman players playing well on court in near future :cool:
For a scratch pair, Wong CH seems to combine well with Wong PT. The Japanese pair made too many simple errors like leaving a shot that is in.
Looks like the hard game is over for Malaysia and Malaysia should be able to beat Japan with MS and MD, and maybe MS [:D].
Ron
i must say, WongCH looked pretty comfortable out there. he definitely wins in court coverage being a singles player. but i think he also excel in awareness and was good at spotting the void in the opponent's formation. shot quality is top notch with some pretty cross court. there aren't that many fast drives in the match in which i think he will be disadvantaged in.
i too think malaysia will win this pretty easily and get promoted.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:45 AM Well! another game of different class.
9-2 by LCW
LCW leading 2-0
Sato, very fast but shots are too fancy!
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:50 AM Well! look like differnet class. LCW is too strong for Sato to overcome.
Sato, very fast but shots are too fancy!
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:53 AM First game over at 15-3 and now second game 4-0 led by LCW
Well! look like differnet class. LCW is too strong for Sato to overcome.
wl2172 05-13-2005, 06:54 AM SImply too strong...
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:54 AM second game 7-0 by LCWFirst game over at 15-3 and now second game 4-0 led by LCW
Sato, very fast but shots are too fancy!
Sato is painful to watch. he always try to do these fancy low percentage shots, and then ended up missing most of them. i am afraid LeeCW is a class above to get tricked by those shots. eventually LeeCW finds a hole and ends the rally efficiently.
Sato needs to learn how to play efficiently and economically instead of choosing fancy returns. get the basics right first.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:55 AM 11-0 now for LCW. second game 7-0 by LCW
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:57 AM No hope at all for Sato, trailing 14-0 now
11-0 now for LCW.
wl2172 05-13-2005, 06:57 AM he is getting caned!!!
wl2172 05-13-2005, 06:57 AM LCW has no mercy....good :)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:58 AM Not a suprise! 15-0 by LCW. Game over now.
No hope at all for Sato, trailing 14-0 now
11-0 now for LCW.
Lee CW has some great sideline smashes while Sato hits out too much. It is 12-0.
Ron
wl2172 05-13-2005, 06:59 AM 12-0 or 15-0???
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 06:59 AM Hope and wish for JPN WS to win over the Malaysain:mad: . Otherwise No more game I guess:o
Not a suprise! 15-0 by LCW. Game over now.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 06:59 AM No hope at all for Sato, trailing 14-0 now
sato's strategy cant work at all with lcw. next match i hope is more intense.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:00 AM Well! It should be the way for every players:cool: LCW has no mercy....good :)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:00 AM Over now! 15-0 by LCW12-0 or 15-0???
Lee CW has some great sideline smashes while Sato hits out too much. It is 12-0.
Ron
Wow, LCW had an easy 15-0 win in the second. Sato looked rather sheepish than tired.
I have no idea what the Chinese commentators were saying, but by the tone of their voice, it seems somewhat inane.
Ron
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:02 AM Warming up for WS. Wong Mee Choo vs HiroseOver now! 15-0 by LCW
demolidor 05-13-2005, 07:03 AM You are right! I actually thought she was a boy when I saw her on court in the Swiss Open with a hugely oversized t-shirt on and the short hair :D
Too quick again! Thought something wasn't right ... the girl there was from Taiwan or Chinese Taipei whichever u prefer but played very similar and looked similar as well (from a distance, not up close; Cheng Shao Chieh it was).
Netasia 05-13-2005, 07:03 AM next LS? that's the end for Japan and all of us the viewers...:confused:
Hope Japan will win this round as expected so that all of us can keep watching...
FEND. 05-13-2005, 07:04 AM match about to start. lineup:
WongCH playing mixed.... :O
What's wrong with that, I told you guys we'd own in XD cause of him. Plus LCW is doing a good job holding the singles fort!!
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:05 AM Yeah! That is why I wish JPN to win. Sorry for our Malaysia counterparts.:o
next LS? that's the end for Japan and all of us the viewers...:confused:
LCW has no mercy....good :)
agree. LeeCW shows some experience and maturity throughout the match. and never slowed down even though he was counting zeros at the 2nd game. he kept on using what works which is simple fast smashes to either side of Sato. he remained calm and composed.
a stark contrast between Lee's and Sato's style. Lee is fast and efficient, always play what is most economical to win the rally. Sato is fast but fancy, tried all these low percentage good looking shots that has low yield and imho just a complete waste of time. i would be very embarrassed if i were his coach.
sato's strategy cant work at all with lcw. next match i hope is more intense.
agree. it would only work with lower grade players. against world class players like LeeCW, he is just wasting his "creativeness".
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:10 AM Hiro leading 5-0! First time JPN leading over Malaysia.:) Yeah! That is why I wish JPN to win. Sorry for our Malaysia counterparts.:o
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:14 AM Hiro back hand's drive is quite amazing and earning serveral points for herself.agree. it would only work with lower grade players. against world class players like LeeCW, he is just wasting his "creativeness".
i thought i would go to sleep disappointed. but Hirose vs. WongMC turns out to be quite interesting.
Hirose fast, good technique, consistent and many shot variation.
WongMC in contrast is a bit slower and less refined technique.
pepper007 05-13-2005, 07:16 AM i thought i would go to sleep disappointed. but Hirose vs. WongMC turns out to be quite interesting.
Hirose fast, good technique, consistent and many shot variation.
WongMC in contrast is a bit slower and less refined technique.
i know this sounds rubbish and childish, but who you think is the prettier??
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:16 AM First LS game goes to Hirose
Hiro leading 5-0! First time JPN leading over Malaysia.:)
blckknght 05-13-2005, 07:18 AM I think Eriko:-)
i know this sounds rubbish and childish, but who you think is the prettier??
wl2172 05-13-2005, 07:19 AM Eriko is pretty
Hirose is quite refreshing to watch. she hasn't slowed down since the beginning of the match. she moved fast and is always in position, giving her many more shot choices. techniques are very smooth and refined as well. she can definitely be somebody in the future if properly trained.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:22 AM Wish to see that so as to penetrate the great wall of china!;) Hirose is quite refreshing to watch. she hasn't slowed down since the beginning of the match. she moved fast and is always in position, giving her many more shot choices. techniques are very smooth and refined as well. she can definitely be somebody in the future if properly trained.
wl2172 05-13-2005, 07:24 AM What is the score now please
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:24 AM There is a movie called "An American beauty".
Likewise if you want chinese beauty then the answer is WMC. If you want Japanese beauty, then Hiro should be the one!:D
I think Eriko:-)
I think Eriko:-)
i have to say i agree with that.
she somehow reminds me of Gong Zhichao. both in her size and playing style. fast court coverage, consistent, and very penetrating when needs to be.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:26 AM Pretty close for the second game! Malaysia trailing 4-5 now.
What is the score now please
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:28 AM 7-5 by Malaysia and holding service now.
Pretty close for the second game! Malaysia trailing 4-5 now.
Hirose is quite refreshing to watch. she hasn't slowed down since the beginning of the match. she moved fast and is always in position, giving her many more shot choices. techniques are very smooth and refined as well. she can definitely be somebody in the future if properly trained.
WMC is making a comeback.
Yes, Hirose is the prettier one. WMC has too high a forehead and a bad hair style when pulled back.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:36 AM 11-8 to WMC. Now rubber game for LS.
7-5 by Malaysia and holding service now.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 07:37 AM WMC is making a comeback.
Yes, Hirose is the prettier one. WMC has too high a forehead and a bad hair style when pulled back.
hirose is pretty and can play well. could it be why kanaka is not here? will kanako gives advise on how to tackle wmc?
pepper007 05-13-2005, 07:40 AM hirose is pretty and can play well. could it be why kanaka is not here? will kanako gives advise on how to tackle wmc?
i think all of you here who said hirose is pretty simply because you watched too much "japanese jpegs" on the net :o
Hirose definitely reminds me of GongZhichao. though Gong was a pure defensive player early on in her career and relied on consistency and speed to win, Hirose leap through that and is able to hit killer rally ending shots despite her height. what is most impressive is that she moves very fast and have excellent coverage, and she has great shot variation, it is very difficult to predict what she is going to do.
credit must go to WongMC in the second game who kept up with Hirose and she too played consistently. Hirose then started to lose her touch a little bit and made quite a few errors when all of her shots are coming back to her.
11-8 to WMC. Now rubber game for LS.
Looking at the CCTV5 broadcast, poor Hirose seems to be scolded by the coach. Japan desperately needs her to win, while WMC is not suppose to win the match. After all, it is the MD that Malaysia is suppose to win to earn promotion.
Ron
Arcos 05-13-2005, 07:45 AM wong is pretty flexible, did a split and a tumble net shot :eek:
thats twice she done it in this game :p
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:45 AM Anyway 6-1 by Hiro now.
Looking at the CCTV5 broadcast, poor Hirose seems to be scolded by the coach. Japan desperately needs her to win, while WMC is not suppose to win the match. After all, it is the MD that Malaysia is suppose to win to earn promotion.
Ron
damn this is going to be quite a fight. neither side is letting down.
FEND. 05-13-2005, 07:48 AM damn this is going to be quite a fight. neither side is letting down.
Relax and enjoy the show. You guys worry too much bout the scoreline. Did you guys place money with your mates or something :rolleyes:
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:50 AM What a rally! Hiro still shows the superior in the net.
damn this is going to be quite a fight. neither side is letting down.
blckknght 05-13-2005, 07:51 AM i think we just wish we could enjoy the show, but have to look at the scoreline because we can't watch it:-)
Relax and enjoy the show. You guys worry too much bout the scoreline. Did you guys place money with your mates or something :rolleyes:
DaN_fAn 05-13-2005, 07:52 AM i think we just wish we could enjoy the show, but have to look at the scoreline because we can't watch it:-)
Same story here Dude:(
seven 05-13-2005, 07:53 AM Thailand has beaten Sweden 3-0 -> Sweden relegated to group 2
France has beaten Switzerland 3-0 -> France promoted to group 3
Poland and India still fighting for promotion to group 2, Poland leading 2-0...
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:53 AM Sorry guys! forget to update.
Now 4-8 to WMC is serving!
i think we just wish we could enjoy the show, but have to look at the scoreline because we can't watch it:-)
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:54 AM 9-4 led by Hiro and serving now
Sorry guys! forget to update.
Now 4-8 to WMC is serving!
seven 05-13-2005, 07:54 AM Thailand has beaten Sweden 3-0 -> Sweden relegated to group 2
France has beaten Switzerland 3-0 -> France promoted to group 3
Poland and India still fighting for promotion to group 2, Poland leading 2-0...
Also : close fight between Italy and Lithuania for promotion to group 4, 2 all with mixed doubles to be decisive...
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:55 AM catching back by WMC and now 5-99-4 led by Hiro and serving now
FEND. 05-13-2005, 07:55 AM Thailand has beaten Sweden 3-0 -> Sweden relegated to group 2
France has beaten Switzerland 3-0 -> France promoted to group 3
Poland and India still fighting for promotion to group 2, Poland leading 2-0...
w00h00!!! Sweden you took our place in 1999 !! Now it's payback!!!
No harm intended. Mainly a joke :p
happy go lucky 05-13-2005, 07:56 AM IMHO Guys, WMC has got a sexy lips ;) Dont believe me ask LCW :D i think all of you here who said hirose is pretty simply because you watched too much "japanese jpegs" on the net :o
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:57 AM 9-8 to Hiro and serving now.catching back by WMC and now 5-9
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:58 AM Match point to JPN now.9-8 to Hiro and serving now.
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 07:58 AM Still not over! WMC is now serving at 8-10Match point to JPN now.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 07:58 AM 9-8 to Hiro and serving now.
very exciting rally, 8-10, wmc serving, hirose is fighting for survival
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 08:00 AM Match point for Hiro!Still not over! WMC is now serving at 8-10
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:01 AM very exciting rally, 8-10, wmc serving, hirose is fighting for survival
hirose finally won it at 11-8, due to a bit of luck...
kyiyu 05-13-2005, 08:01 AM Over for LS. Hiro won 2-1.
Now JPN trailing 1-2 now.
Match point for Hiro!
very impressive match. not counting the Chinese players, this must be one of the best WS match i have watched in recent history. we need to watch this Hirose player in Beijing 2008.
i think i can go to bed now. to be continued tomorrow evening.
hcyong 05-13-2005, 08:07 AM Hirose's technique is superb. When she needs to clear, it goes really clear. When she wants to drive, it is penetrating. When she smashes, it is hard and crisp towards the sidelines. When she drops, it is sharp to either corners. And to boot, she is deceptive. The reason she can do all those is because she has fast and efficient footwork. She gets behind the shuttle really well.
Wong MC is a rally player. She does not have a very good attack. She smashes close to the body and her opponents usually have no problems dealing with direct attacks from her.
But then, how do you explain the score? Her speed, stamina and lunges are impressive. You can never count a rally over until the shuttle touches the floor. Her opponent is driven to extreme measures to finish the rally. They have to attack the lines and corners, and therefore, to make mistakes. At the same time, they also have to deal with her fairly good lobs and drops. If she can attack better and improve further on her footwork and racquet skills, she will be somewhere up there in the top 10. As it is now, I think she belongs to the top 20.
Back to Hirose, I see her as already a serious contender to the Chinese. We'll see more of her in the top level, this smiling chubby assassin.
Netasia 05-13-2005, 08:09 AM Malaysia MD should be able to win
Jonno 05-13-2005, 08:10 AM Thailand has beaten Sweden 3-0 -> Sweden relegated to group 2
France has beaten Switzerland 3-0 -> France promoted to group 3
Poland and India still fighting for promotion to group 2, Poland leading 2-0...
Those Polish players must be very tired....only three men (Logosz, Mateusiak and Wacha) and two women (Kostiuczyk and Augustyn) are playing today!! :eek: Thats 5 players taking up 8 positions, think they'll sleep well tonight :p
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:16 AM Malaysia MD should be able to win
hopefully... i am so eager to see them play in first division 2 years later;)
seven 05-13-2005, 08:17 AM Those Polish players must be very tired....only three men (Logosz, Mateusiak and Wacha) and two women (Kostiuczyk and Augustyn) are playing today!! :eek: Thats 5 players taking up 8 positions, think they'll sleep well tonight :p
Yes, but these five players are real TOP players!! :D
Kamila Augustyn is a doubles specialist, but still she is the best possible WS player to line-up... :rolleyes:
Netasia 05-13-2005, 08:17 AM cctv5 stop telecast SC due to in-sufficient time
hcyong 05-13-2005, 08:18 AM Those Polish players must be very tired....only three men (Logosz, Mateusiak and Wacha) and two women (Kostiuczyk and Augustyn) are playing today!! :eek: Thats 5 players taking up 8 positions, think they'll sleep well tonight :p
Poland should wrap it up in the MD. The Polish pair are at a different level altogether. Actually, with players like these, few though they may be, they will survive comfortably in Group 2.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:19 AM Yes, but these five players are real TOP players!! :D
Kamila Augustyn is a doubles specialist, but still she is the best possible WS player to line-up... :rolleyes:
only 5 players playing for 4 consecutive days?? they must be very fit physically:eek:
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:20 AM cctv5 stop telecast SC due to in-sufficient time
koo/chan won the 1st set 15-4. if they continue the momentum, the match will be over pretty soon.:rolleyes:
cctv5 stop telecast SC due to in-sufficient time
Boo hoo hoo :crying: :crying: :crying:
And I was getting into the game. WMC should have won so I could have gone back to bed contented. Now the sun is up and I had little sleep last night and the night before watching too much badminton and I still have no completion :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
Ron
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:29 AM koo/chan won the 1st set 15-4. if they continue the momentum, the match will be over pretty soon.:rolleyes:
7-6, mas leading
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:33 AM 7-6, mas leading
JPN leading now at 11-8
blckknght 05-13-2005, 08:39 AM It's a long shot, but who is playing women's doubles if Japan makes it past this men's doubles? is it Yamada/Yamamoto or Ogura and Shiota (sp?)?
JPN leading now at 11-8
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:40 AM JPN leading now at 11-8
12-12, exciting...
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:43 AM 12-12, exciting...
14-13, MAS match point
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:45 AM It's a long shot, but who is playing women's doubles if Japan makes it past this men's doubles? is it Yamada/Yamamoto or Ogura and Shiota (sp?)?
ogura/shiota vs wong/chin
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:47 AM 14-13, MAS match point
MAS won the tie 15-13 & got promoted to Div1... well done. The Jap really giving resistance in the 2nd set.
chome 05-13-2005, 08:49 AM MAS won the tie 15-13 & got promoted to Div1... well done. The Jap really giving resistance in the 2nd set.
well done...finally can see mas play with those strong countries...
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 08:52 AM well done...finally can see mas play with those strong countries...
that's another 2 years... b4 it, there's WC and TC..wow... tomorrow another 4 teams great fight.
MAS won the tie 15-13 & got promoted to Div1... well done. The Jap really giving resistance in the 2nd set.
Good. I can go back to sleep. Malaysia won reasonably easily with the mens. The Malaysian women's team has always been weaker.
hcyong 05-13-2005, 08:57 AM The Japanese MD played well in the 2nd set, the Malaysian MD pairs are not Malaysian for nothing. A pretty average performance but enough to win it 15-13. They could have taken it on the first match point at 14-13, but the smash by the Japanese was ruled in (although the replay showed it to be slightly out, can't really fault the linesjudge as the shuttle was fast). KKK celebrated as if they have won but it was not to be. A few points later, it was wrapped up.
chome 05-13-2005, 08:59 AM Good. I can go back to sleep. Malaysia won reasonably easily with the mens. The Malaysian women's team has always been weaker.
Women's team are better than before, but still weaker.
KourKK 05-13-2005, 09:01 AM Great play by the malaysian team in general, awesome performance by LCW, beating Sato 15-0 in 6 Minutes for the second set.
(What did someone mean by WMC having sexy lips, and ask LCW about that? those two got a relationship going issit?)
Those stretches by WMC were quite amazing at times, and the reflexes and shots of KKK/CCM were just amazing to watch, e.g. when KKK (i think) did a behing-the-back return of a smash, just great entertainment!
Well Done Malaysia!!
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 09:04 AM The Japanese MD played well in the 2nd set, the Malaysian MD pairs are not Malaysian for nothing. A pretty average performance but enough to win it 15-13. They could have taken it on the first match point at 14-13, but the smash by the Japanese was ruled in (although the replay showed it to be slightly out, can't really fault the linesjudge as the shuttle was fast). KKK celebrated as if they have won but it was not to be. A few points later, it was wrapped up.
thankfully, they managed to wrap the tie from the 2nd match point cos i really dont want to see them play in the rubber.
KourKK 05-13-2005, 09:07 AM I believe that the malaysians need to be more consistent, with KKK/CCM outclassing the Japanese pair in the first set, but let them come back in the second game, and also with WMC, she had all the momentum after winning the second set, i think that she could have taken the rubber if she was more aggressive.
kevin&sandy 05-13-2005, 09:10 AM Women's team are better than before, but still weaker.
i think mew choo and chin/wong can stay comfortably in the top 20 or top 10 if they work hard. hope to see them around in the next SC but mew choo i hope she can stay healthy, just look at how she plays, it was painful to see her stretches to the extreme.
KourKK 05-13-2005, 09:12 AM Looking at Wong Mew Choo's lunges for the shuttle, i think that she should have taken an extra step instead of lunging for the ground, as while she is trying to recover from the ground, chances are the opponent will easily win the point.
seven 05-13-2005, 09:34 AM only 5 players playing for 4 consecutive days?? they must be very fit physically:eek:
Well, in their pool ties, they fielded another girl in WS, but she didn't do very well. (I suppose they knew they had enough margin to let the WS go)
But for the decisive promotion tie, they played their best team which consists in ... just 5 top players! :p
extremenanopowe 05-13-2005, 11:01 AM looks like we need some guardian angels to hook up with the media or the sponsors to get it televised. Also not forgetting some good souls to evangelise badminton.
still china will dominate for this tournament. what u say?
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