Orange County Badminton Club, Orange, CA

[harimau]

Since there is also other clubs in the So Cal area, it is only fair if Kwun also open the new thread for them like OCBC, and MBBC

[dusty]

Is that a Club? From what I've read and heard up here in Canada it sounds more like a cult!:D


Since there is also other clubs in the So Cal area, it is only fair if Kwun also open the new thread for them like OCBC

[kwun]

Since there is also other clubs in the So Cal area, it is only fair if Kwun also open the new thread for them like OCBC, and MBBC

will be happy to as long as it doesn't turn into a thread about OCBC politics. i think most badminton players have enough of those discussions.

[harimau]

will be happy to as long as it doesn't turn into a thread about OCBC politics. i think most badminton players have enough of those discussions.
Thanks Kwun for creating this thread. But from what i have observed for a few years now, compared with other badminton related Forum, Badminton Central moderators have always been very fair and objective when come to point of views and its opinions. Plus their moderators have been very strict in maintaining proper order and quick in giving warning when seeing stuffs getting out of hand or turning into politics and character bashing or character assasination. Whereas other forum tend to be rather subjective and did not give proper warning when things got out of control. My main purpose for the creation of this thread is for informational only to badminton players in the States and also all over the world since Badminton Central has readers from all continents. But if there is any one from any where is trying to use this thread to stir something out again, please by all means, give them warning or even block their posting right or access. THanks.

[kwun]

thanks harimau. :)

let's talk about OCBC...

[samkool]

the one club policy i found harsh was you can only use shuttlecocks purchased from the clubs pro shop.

[scchang]

OCBC limits the brands: OCBC and Yonex; however, you can find them via your own source, not only from the in-situ shop.

-SC

the one club policy i found harsh was you can only use shuttlecocks purchased from the clubs pro shop.

[Vtec101]

Samkool, OCBC is a private club and it does take money to run it. Having to use their birds doesn't seem that bad to me. It's just part of being a member there. True, the price for the birds there are a bit more than what you can get outside, but if you buy in bulk, it's pretty cheap. With people complaining about the price of OCBC, you should take a look at the new clubs openning up in N.Cal. They are about the same price as OCBC.

[MacGyver]

Samkool, OCBC is a private club and it does take money to run it. Having to use their birds doesn't seem that bad to me. It's just part of being a member there. True, the price for the birds there are a bit more than what you can get outside, but if you buy in bulk, it's pretty cheap. With people complaining about the price of OCBC, you should take a look at the new clubs openning up in N.Cal. They are about the same price as OCBC.

The rules and behavior of a club is "All part of price you pay" when you join. There is always a balance. Member should put on a business person's hat before complaining and club owner should just shutdown before complaining about losing money. For the members, it is very simple: Work within the rules and Vote with your own pocket book. For the owner, it is more complex, there are various aspects to balance: money, fame, and stature. It is not just money alone.

[silentheart]

Jus t want to add one additional thing. Club owner might have passion about badminton, however, he/she still need money to buy food to live on...

[harimau]

Where : OCBC
1432 N Main Street, Orange, CA 92867
Ph: 714-639-6222
Email : timocbc@aol.com
Sessions :
A Fridays - July 8, 15, 22, and 29 ( 7:30 - 9:30 pm)
B Saturdays - July 9, 16,23, and 30 (2:00 - 4:00 pm)
C Sundays - July 10, 17, 24, and 31 ( 2:00 - 4:00 pm)

Eligibility : Open to all skill levels, ages 6 -14. Club membership not required. Please wear athletic attire with non marking, soft sole court shoes.
Sessions with less than 10 students are subject to cancellation

Deadline : June 30, 05

Session A $ 60
Session B $ 60
Session C $ 60
ANy two sessions : $ 110.00
Any three Sessions : $ 150.00

All class fees are non-refundable and non transferrable. No make-up class will be offered for missed dates.

[harimau]

1. Regular OCBC Group Training Program:

The Regular OCBC Group Training Program is an intensive, year-round training program for selected participants who trains for three hours per day in the afternoon from Mondays through Fridays with the OCBC Coaching Staff:


Cai Zi Min
Coaching Manager

Ignatius Rusli
Coach

Tony Gunawan
Coach

Eti Gunawan
Coach

Cindy Shi
Coach

Participants have the opportunity to train with some of the best coaches in the United States as well as to practice and play with some of the best United States badminton players in the OCBC Elite and Junior Teams.

The annual program fee for the regular afternoon session is $7,500.00*, which works out to less than $9.75 per hour* of training!

Only participants in the afternoon group training program have the option of adding training in the morning for two hours per day from Mondays through Fridays by paying the annual program fee of $2,500.00* for the morning session (total fee for five hours per day, Mondays through Fridays: $10,000.00* per year.)


2. Introductory OCBC Group Training Programs:

For 2005, the following Special Introductory OCBC Group Training Programs headed by Coaching Manager Cai Zi Min are open to first-time participants with a maximum age of 14 years old:

2 days per week from 4:00 PM to 7:00 PM - $2,000.00 annual program fee*.
3 days per week from 4:00 PM to 7:00 PM - $3,000.00 annual program fee*.
5 days per week from 4:00 PM to 7:00 PM - $4,000.00 annual program fee*.

The 2 & 3 days per week introductory programs are a great deal since the hourly training cost for the entire year works out to less than $6.50 per hour* of training! The 5 days per week introductory program is an even better deal at less than $5.25 per hour* of training!


3. Non-Local Resident OCBC Group Training Program:

The Non-Local Resident OCBC Group Training Program is open to participants who have residential addresses that are located more than 50 miles from OCBC (proof of non-residency required).

The monthly fee for this training program is $1,000.00*. This fee must be paid at the beginning of each month. Alternatively the fee for this training program can be paid daily at $50.00* per day.

Participants in this program will have full access to both the regular afternoon group training sessions and the morning group training sessions of the Regular OCBC Group Training Program and will have full OCBC membership benefits while they are in this training program (an OCBC membership not required for this particular OCBC training program.) Training shuttlecocks are also included.


* Important notes:

A. All the listed annual program fees are for participation in the admitted group training program through the end of the calendar year regardless of when the participant starts training in the group training program. There is absolutely no discount for starting participation after January 2nd.

B. All group training program fees are non-refundable and must be paid prior to participation in the group training programs.

C. Except where specifically noted, all OCBC Group Training Program participation requires OCBC membership, which is not included in the training program fee.

D. All OCBC Group Training Program participation requires approval by the OCBC Management.

E. Group Training Program participants do not automatically become members of either the OCBC Elite Team or the OCBC Junior Team (admission to either team requires separate OCBC Management approval.)

F. None of the OCBC Group Training Programs include any lodging or meal arrangement.

G. All the information regarding the OCBC Group Training Programs are subject to change without notice.

Please contact OCBC Manager Tim Mangkalakiri (timocbc@aol.com) if you are interested in participating in any of the above group training programs or if you need more information.

[harimau]

OCBC Players' results of the 2005 Junior National Badminton Championships:

U11 XD
1. William Cheung/Zandra Ho
2. Ryan Chew (OCBC)/Cherie Chow
3. Chad Nramore/Denice Belandres
4. Kai Chern/Michaela Marinos
5. Shawn Whong/Janice Smith

U13 GS
1. Iris Wang
2. Tracy Chan
3. Claudia Hardi (OCBC)
4. Carly Naramore
5. Karine Hsu

U13 BS
1. Phillip Chew (OCBC)
2. Patrick Pelegri-O'Day
3. Brandon Chi
4. Michael Buasan
5. Henry Zavriyev

U13 GD
1. T. Chan/I. Wang
2. C. Hardi (OCBC)/C. Naramore
3. K. Hsu/Z. Ho
4. Cherie Chow/ Kylie Wong (OCBC)
5. Jessica Mehta/Abhirami Matha

U13 BD
1. M. Buasan/ P. Chew (OCBC)
2. James Huang/B. Chi
3. Phillip Donlon/H. Zavriyev
4. Nathan Oh/J. Soh
5. Kenneth Bohr/Austin Liou

U13 XD
1. P. Chew (OCBC)/C. Hardi (OCBC)
2. P. Pelegri-O'Day/K. Hsu
3. B. Chi/T. Chan
4. Jeremy Soh/C. Naramore
5. M. Buasan/I. Wang

U15 GS
1. Isabel Zhong
2. Cheryl Chow
3. Beckie Neumann
4. Karishma Kollipara
5. Rena Wang

U15 BS
1. Yau Hwa Chan
2. Randy Hsia
3. Terrence Pang
4. Zenas Lam
5. Brendan Lum

U15 GD
1. Tina Cavazos/K Kollipara
2. B. Neumann/I. Zhong
3. Corinne Belandres/ Erin Soh
4. Chloe Chow/Catherine Chiu (OCBC)
5. Cheryl Chow/R. Wang

U15 BD
1. R. Hsia/B. Lum
2. Y.H. Chan/Burton Yang
3. Nicholas Hardi(OCBC)/Marvin Lin (OCBC)
4. Eric Kuo(OCBC)/ Z. Lam
5. Denis Chernoff/T. Pang

U15 XD
1. YH Chan/R. Wang
2. B Lum/Cheryl Chow
3. Allen Hsu/I. Zhong
4. R. Hsia/C. Belandres
5. E. Kuo (OCBC)/K. Kollipara

U17 GS
1.Kuei-Ya Chen (OCBC)
2. Priscilla Lun (OCBC)
3. Iryna Boboshko
4. Susana Zhong
5. Rena Wang

U17 BS
1. Emmanuel Pun
2. Howard Shu (OCBC)
3. Hanlin Wan
4. Sasha Boyarin
5. Dakota Clark

U17 GD
1. I. Boboshko/P. Lun (OCBC)
2. S. Zhong/Beckie Neumann
3. Veronkia Gutierrez/Crystal Bustamante
4. Villette Cuthbert.Ying Wei
5. Helen Chen/Karin Hung

U17 BD
1. H. Shu (OCBC)/Jack Shu (OCBC)
2. S. Boyarin/Arthur Chin
3. E. Pun/D. Clark
4. Marvin Lin(OCBC)/Calvin Lin (OCBC)
5. Daniel Cheung/Eric You

U17 XD
1. E. Pun/P. Lun (OCBC)
2. C. Lin (OCBC)/Cheryl Chow
3. D. Clark/Sarah Chen
4. Charlie Hsu/S. Zhong
5. S. Boyarin/I. Boboshko

U19 GS
1. Jamie Subandhi (OCBC)
2. Lauren Todt
3. Daphne Ng
4. Shirley Yu
5. Kylynn McKinley

U19 BS
1. Ronald Sou (OCBC)
2. Arnold Setiadi
3. Thomas Blanchet
4. Andrew Todt
5. Azam Ali

U19 GD
1. Samantha Jinadasa/L. Todt
2. D. Ng/J. Subandhi (OCBC)
3. Tiffany Prajudha/Alice Wen
4. Wendy Keo/Jennifer Prajudha
5. Christina Bohr/Kimberly Kramer

U19 BD
1. A Setiadi/A. Todt
2. David Lim (OCBC) /R. Sou (OCBC)
3. Wei Hwa Chan/Kevin Yang
4. Ben Hussey/Hanlin Wan
5. Jack Dinh/Kyle Emerick

U19 XD
1. A. Setiadi/D. Ng
2. A. Todt/L. Todt
3. R. Sou (OCBC) /J. Subandhi (OCBC)
4. B. Hussey/K. McKinley
5. W.H. Chen/ S. Jinadasa

U22 GS
1. Kuei-Ya Chan (OCBC)
2. Panita Phongasavithas (OCBC)
3. Jeannie Poon (OCBC)
4. Kylynn McKinley
5. Saori Nakagawi

U22 BS
1. Nicholas Jinadasa
2. Bartolo Chen (OCBC)
3. Azam Ali
4. Welsey Hsieh
5. Ted Shear

U22 BD
1.B. Chen (OCBC) /Jack Shu (OCBC)
2. Tuan Le/Tony Nguyen
3. N. Jinadasa/Tuan La
4. Wei Hwa Chan/Charlie Phairojmahikj
5. Weley Hsieh/Daniel Nguyen

U22 GD
1. P. Phongasavithas (OCBC)/J. Poon (OCBC)
2. Sisi Chen/Belinda Theam
3. Jennifer Lin/Shirley Yu
4. Judy Hsieh/S. Nakagawa
5. Susanna Rodriguez/Veronika Gutierrez

U22 XD
1. N. Jinadasa/S. Jinadasa
2. David Lim (OCBC) /P. Phongasavithas (OCBC)
3. B. Chen OCBC/J. Poon (OCBC)
4. Ted Shear/K. Kramer
5. D. Nguyen/Alice Wen

CONGRATULATIONS to all !!!!

[harimau]

Congratulations to Tony G & Howard Bach for making a history at the first World Championship in the US soil. There is never be a better time than this one because Badminton Worldwide needs a big boost in order for the sport to grow to the next level. All we need is to confince American corporations that badminton is not a backyard sport as it has notoriously been labeled with.

Thanks to Mr. Don Chew for having such a vision 9 years ago. He has single-handedly transformed US badminton into world wide mao.

Thanks to Tony & Howard for making such a dream become reality.

Please keep up the good work !!!!!!!!!

[GGrebecca]

Tony and Howard were simply awesome all through the tournament and such gracious winners too!

And awesome applies to OCBC too, being the home gym for 7 of the 9 U.S. representatives in the 2005 World Championships.

Gon Bui!

[harimau]

Chinese Taipei NO 1 WD Players, CHeng, Wen-Hsing has been playing badminton in OCBC during this week. She stays back right after 05 World CHampionship since she was invited to do some exhibition and coaching for some junior players in the east coast area. Then she has a few remaining days before her flight back home, she spares some time to practice and play game with OCBC Junior Elite Players. What a great honor and fortune to get this rare opportunity !!!!

Thank you so much, Cheng, Wen Hsing.......Good luck to you !!!!

[harimau]

TONY G & HALIM H REUNITED TO WIN THEIR 1st DOUBLE CROWN

at the BITBURGER OPEN in SAARBRUCKEN, GERMANY. Their final opponents were the Canadian Pair, MIke Beres & William MIlroy only managed to get 3 and 6 points from Tony & Halim.

COngratulations TONY & HALIM ........!!!!!

Judging from this, they shall have no problem to crash thru their opponents at the Dutch Open starting next week. Good LUCK to both of them !!!! May the "force" be with them .............. GBU ....

[harrycoomer]

The US team should be unbeatable for some time. Can they play in the olympics?

[cooler]

TONY G & HALIM H REUNITED TO WIN THEIR 1st DOUBLE CROWN

at the BITBURGER OPEN in SAARBRUCKEN, GERMANY. Their final opponents were the Canadian Pair, MIke Beres & William MIlroy only managed to get 3 and 6 points from Tony & Halim.

COngratulations TONY & HALIM ........!!!!!

Judging from this, they shall have no problem to crash thru their opponents at the Dutch Open starting next week. Good LUCK to both of them !!!! May the "force" be with them .............. GBU ....

hey, dun knock us canadian. We're nobody in badminton and we're still in the final :p . Neither mike or william are full time MD players. They often compete in XD and MS too. Also, they aren't imports :p

ex
Mixed Doubles
1st Round / 1ere Ronde
MILROY William \ SUN Tammy CAN beat LARSEN Jesper DEN \ RUSSKIKH ~ Anastasia (1) RUS no score available
BERES Mike \ PATRICK Jody CAN beat CLAES Wouter \ DESCAMPS Nathalie BEL no score available
2nd Round (16s) / 2ieme Ronde (16s)
MILROY William \ SUN Tammy CAN beat SPITKO Roman \ METTE Carina GER 17-16, 15-8
BERES Mike \ PATRICK Jody CAN lost to FUCHS Michael \ HUECKSTAEDT Caren GER 15-13, 15-12
Quarter Finals / Quarte de finales
MILROY William \ SUN Tammy CAN lost to STOYANOV Svetoslav \ PI Hongyan FRA 15-6, 15-10

MS
Quarter Finals / Quarte de finales
DABEKA Andrew CAN lost to PERSSON Joachim DEN 15-13, 15-2
MILROY Bobby CAN beat OEDUM Kasper DEN 15-12, 15-2
Semi Finals
MILROY Bobby CAN beat RASIDI Arief FRA 12-15, 15-7, 15-9
Finals
MILROY Bobby CAN lost to KALDAU Niels Christian DEN 15-2, 15-13

where is US MS?

[scchang]

Good question about the Olympic eligibility. At this moment, if there is nothing happened about the USCIS (previously known as IRS) and the immigration laws, the answer would be NO, since the regulations are strict and the government workers are inefficient. If you had seen the DMV here in US, then you know why.

BTW, people have the right to choose where they would like to live. Badminton is not like volleyball or basketball which is very team oriented. Is it really important where the players were originally from? BTW, if there were some good incentives from some countries, I believe many professional players would be very interested in moving there (for a better life). Also, badminton is a very gentleman and lady sports. We are not playing American football here. Showing respect to the opponents is also important (and polite). Everyone knows Tony and Halim are great players, they play their best, and would give their opponents as few points as possible. Therefore, there is no need to be sarcastic about anything.

-SC

[harimau]

The line-up for the 2005 Copenhagen Masters has been announced. A very respectable line-up, in my opinion.

MS, group 1
BAO Chunlai, China
Kenneth JONASSEN, Denmark
WONG Choong Hann, Malaysia

MS, group 2
Peter GADE, Denmark
Muhammed Hafiz HASHIM, Malaysia
Eric PANG, Holland

MD, group 1:
Jens ERIKSEN/Martin LUNDGAARD, Denmark
Bin Shen TAN/Soon Hock ONG, Malaysia
Tony GUNAWAN/Howard BACH, USA

MD, group 2:
FU Haifeng/CAI Yun, Kina
Mathias BOE/Carsten MOGENSEN, Denmark
ALVEN Yulianto/FLANDY Limpele, Indonesien

MX, group 1:
Nathan ROBERTSON/Gail EMMS, England
Lars PAASKE/Mette SCHOLDAGER, Denmark

MX, group 2
XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen, China
Thomas LAYBOURN/Kamilla JUHL, Denmark

[harimau]

For winning the 05 LA Greatest Sports Moment of Year in the category of Olympic Sport !!!!

[harimau]

05 USBDF Winter Jr International, a year-end jr event has just been concluded yesterday. It was in fact a 3 day fun, excitement, thrilling-filled event where all junior players slugged it all out trying to outplay, outsmart, eventually outbeat his/her opponents. About 180 players from Mexico, Canada, East COast, Nor Cal, South Cal, MBBC, SGVBC, plus some highschoolers were among the participants of this event. It was a huge success ........ in a sense that we have seen more new faces esp in the lower age group like U-9, U11, U-13, and U15. If this trend is to be continued, then USA Badminton will have a brighter future of having more selection of players ....
To name a few of the most notable players from the U-11 division :
Shawn Wong, MBBC
Chad Naramore, MBBC
Pow Hwa Chan, SGVBC
Christopher Kan, OCBC
Jin Peng, UBC
Willian Cheung, Bintang BC
Ryan Chew, OCBC

Carissa Chung (girls)

For the U-13 division :
Jeffrey Kuo, Bintang BC (boys)
Chris Ngo
FOr GIRLS :
Prianka Shandgkar, UBC
Tiffany Wong, SGVBC
Emily Kan, OCBC
Kylie WOng, OCBC
Nantana Ketpura, OCBC
Karine Hsu, Bintang BC
Sharon Ng, UBC

For the U-15 Division :
BOYS
Dominick Lim
Quan Chu, OCBC
Dexter Vu
Kevin Ni
Nick WOng, OCBC
Michael Zhou, TPBC
JOnathan Tan, OCBC
GIRLS
Thuy Hoang, OCBC
Jennifer Chen
Julie Yeh, OCBC
Angela Yee, SGVBC

Lastly, congratulations to all the winners ...!!! See you all in the 06 USBDF Spring JR Open ...

For the complete results, please go to www.tournamentsoftware.com and click on "05 USBDF Winter Junior International"

[pelegri]

05 USBDF Winter Jr International, a year-end jr event has just been concluded yesterday. It was in fact a 3 day fun, excitement, thrilling-filled event where all junior players slugged it all out trying to outplay, outsmart, eventually outbeat his/her opponents. About 180 players from Mexico, Canada, East COast, Nor Cal, South Cal, MBBC, SGVBC, plus some highschoolers were among the participants of this event. It was a huge success ........ in a sense that we have seen more new faces esp in the lower age group like U-9, U11, U-13, and U15. If this trend is to be continued, then USA Badminton will have a brighter future of having more selection of players ....

<SNIP/>

Lastly, congratulations to all the winners ...!!! See you all in the 06 USBDF Spring JR Open ...

For the complete results, please go to www.tournamentsoftware.com and click on "05 USBDF Winter Junior International"

Thanks to OCBC for hosting the tournament! We always enjoy your hospitality, and this year was no different (despite the flu going around).

I agree about the new faces. And it was nice to see some kids improving a lot.

Looking forward to 2006. Re: the Spring Jr Open, is that the BAJO or another tournament? I can't find it in the web sites.

- Eduard/o (dad of Patrick Pelegri-O'Day in U13)

[harimau]

Thanks to OCBC for hosting the tournament! We always enjoy your hospitality, and this year was no different (despite the flu going around).

I agree about the new faces. And it was nice to see some kids improving a lot.

Looking forward to 2006. Re: the Spring Jr Open, is that the BAJO or another tournament? I can't find it in the web sites.

- Eduard/o (dad of Patrick Pelegri-O'Day in U13)

Regarding the upcoming 06 USBDF Spring Jr Open, USBDF boards have not picked up the exact date yet so far. But since 06 US Adult National which will be at OCBC falls on April 7 - 9, 06. So i would assume the Jr event will run either one weekend prior or one weekend after that. Which one would you guys prefer ??

[harimau]

The line-up for the 2005 Copenhagen Masters has been announced. A very respectable line-up, in my opinion.

MS, group 1
BAO Chunlai, China
Kenneth JONASSEN, Denmark
WONG Choong Hann, Malaysia

MS, group 2
Peter GADE, Denmark
Muhammed Hafiz HASHIM, Malaysia
Eric PANG, Holland

MD, group 1:
Jens ERIKSEN/Martin LUNDGAARD, Denmark
Bin Shen TAN/Soon Hock ONG, Malaysia
Tony GUNAWAN/Howard BACH, USA

MD, group 2:
FU Haifeng/CAI Yun, Kina
Mathias BOE/Carsten MOGENSEN, Denmark
ALVEN Yulianto/FLANDY Limpele, Indonesien

MX, group 1:
Nathan ROBERTSON/Gail EMMS, England
Lars PAASKE/Mette SCHOLDAGER, Denmark

MX, group 2
XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen, China
Thomas LAYBOURN/Kamilla JUHL, Denmark

TONY GUNAWAN & Howard Bach just won the Copenhagen Master 2005 by beating CAI/FU 15-12, 11-15, 15-4 in the final !!!!


Congratulations to both of them ....!!!!! Well DONE........

[DinkAlot]

TONY GUNAWAN & Howard Bach just won the Copenhagen Master 2005 by beating CAI/FU 15-12, 11-15, 15-4 in the final !!!!


Congratulations to both of them ....!!!!! Well DONE........

Tony's not playing with Halim? Why? Regardless, congrats Tony and Howard! :D

[harimau]

Tony's not playing with Halim? Why? Regardless, congrats Tony and Howard! :D
Copenhagen Master is always an invitational event only. So they only invite the current 05 World Champions and not the 2001 WC which Tony & Halim held.

[DinkAlot]

Copenhagen Master is always an invitational event only. So they only invite the current 05 World Champions and not the 2001 WC which Tony & Halim held.

Thank you Sir for the clarification. :)

[harimau]

Copenhagen Master is always an invitational event only. So they only invite the current 05 World Champions and not the 2001 WC which Tony & Halim held.

TRIVIA QUESTION
Does anyone know how many MD titles have been won by Tony GUnawan & Howard Bach this year ?

[samkool]

TRIVIA QUESTION
Does anyone know how many MD titles have been won by Tony GUnawan & Howard Bach this year ?

3 or 4. i don't count '05 scba.

2 listed here (http://www.intbadfed.org/Portal/desktopmodules/pbiography.asp?pnumber=6783) + the just completed copenhagen masters. maybe the '04 german open, too. can't remember

[harimau]

3 or 4. i don't count '05 scba.

2 listed here (http://www.intbadfed.org/Portal/desktopmodules/pbiography.asp?pnumber=6783) + the just completed copenhagen masters. maybe the '04 german open, too. can't remember
You got it right !!! It is a total of 5 including the SCBA International. They are as follows :

05 SCBA International
05 World Championship
05 German Bit Burger
05 Taipei Open
05 Copenhagen Masters

[scchang]

Tony Gunawan and Howard Bach
05 SCBA International
05 World Championship
05 Copenhagen Masters

Tony Gunawan and Halim Haryanto Ho
05 German Bit Burger
05 Taipei Open


You got it right !!! It is a total of 5 including the SCBA International. They are as follows :

05 SCBA International
05 World Championship
05 German Bit Burger
05 Taipei Open
05 Copenhagen Masters

[harimau]

Tony Gunawan and Howard Bach
05 SCBA International
05 World Championship
05 Copenhagen Masters

Tony Gunawan and Halim Haryanto Ho
05 German Bit Burger
05 Taipei Open

Thanks for the correction !!!

[harimau]

12/26/2005 Howard Bach & Tony Gunawan - 2005 Los Angeles Sports Council Greatest Olympic Sports Moment Award
by USA Badminton

The Los Angeles Sports Council (http://www.lasports.org) announced on December 11, 2005 live on KCAL-TV (Channel 9, Los Angeles, CA) that the winner of the fan voting for the Olympic Sports category of the Greatest Sports Moments of 2005 is:

Team USA Wins First-Ever Badminton Gold - At the 2005 World Badminton Championships, the American team of Tony Gunawan and Howard Bach won a surprise gold medal in men's doubles, the first-ever won by the U.S. in world championship at the Arrowhead Pond (August 21).

[harimau]

2006 USA Badminton National Training Fund Trials
2/3/2006 - 2/5/2006
Orange County Badminton Club, Orange, CA
Contact: Gus Chew gus@kdgpp.com 714-639-8900
DEADLINE: 1/20/2006

Info on the Official Entry Form, please go to www.ocbadmintonclub.com

[harimau]

Any predictions for who will grab the USAB NTF Trials for all the events from
MS, WS, MD, WD and MX ?

Possible players in the draw :

MS : Raju Rai, Eric Go, Ronald Sou, Howard Shu, Arnold Setiadi, Andrew Todt, Bartolo Chen, Christopher Lun , anymore .........
WS : Eva Lee, Jamie Subandhi, Joanne Chen, Laurent Todt, Thuy Hoang, Melinda K, Jennifer Coleman, SHannon Pohl (maybe), Priscilla Lun
MD : Roland Sou & Eric Go, Bob Malaythong & Raju Rai, Tony G & Howard Bach, Arnold Setiadi & Chris Lun (?), Andrew Todt & Partner (?), Jack Shu & Steven Wong, Daniel Gouw & Partner (?)
MX : Bob Malaythong & May Makalangkiri, Howard Bach & Eva Lee (?), Jennifer Coleman & Partner (?)

Any one else knows who else are coming ???

My predictions :
MS : Raju Rai
WS : Jamie Subandhi
MD : Howard Bach & Tony G (if they play) If not Bob M & Raju Rai
MX : Bob M & May Makalangkiri

[harimau]

New pairings:

MD
Howard Bach & Bob Malaythong
Raju Rai & Eric Go
Jack Shu & Steven Wong
Plus others

MIX
Howard Bach & Jennifer Coleman
Bob Malaythong & May Mangkalangkiri
Jack Shu & Priscilla Lun
Andrew Todt & Laurent Todt
Nicholas & Samantha Jinadasa
ETC ETC

HOW COME UP TO NOW NO ONE GIVE / PROVIDE THEIR PREDICTIONS ???

[Vtec101]

hmmm...

MS - Raju Rai
WS - Eva Lee
MD - Howard Bach/Bob Malaythong
WD - Eva Lee/May Mangkalakiri
XD - May Mangkalakiri/Bob Malaythong

[DinkAlot]

HOW COME UP TO NOW NO ONE GIVE / PROVIDE THEIR PREDICTIONS ???

#1: you covered everyone.

#2: predictions are just that. Why do we need to predict? :p

[harimau]

#1: you covered everyone.

#2: predictions are just that. Why do we need to predict? :p
Well who knows ?? Right .... like maybe the re-emerging of Trisna and June Hu for the mixed double contenders, or Alex Liang for MS ..... or maybe Elie Wu for WS or Elie Wu & Shannon Hsu for WD ......

Or perhap other good players who have never tried out suddenly re-surface to take on the challenge ..... the more the merrier ....

I just wish more and more badminton players can come out and support the sport especially in a USA Badminton sanctioned event so that years after years we dont see the eroding number of players coming out for the trial.

When you look at the number of recent participants to the US Adult Nationals, NTF Trial events, they have been rather discouraging and disheartening. I mean we all talk the talk of trying to promote the sport of badminton in the US; but do we walk the talk !!! I know for a fact that they are lots of excellent players in the West Coast region (region 5) esp in SGVBC and perhaps Nor Cal clubs, but unless they come out to support these natioanl events, then the sport will really go no where !!! And how can we present the sport to the corporate America to get sponsorship if the National event only drawing about 40 players or 60 maximum for all 5 events ??? Think about it !!

[DinkAlot]

Well who knows ?? Right .... like maybe the re-emerging of Trisna and June Hu for the mixed double contenders, or Alex Liang for MS ..... or maybe Elie Wu for WS or Elie Wu & Shannon Hsu for WD ......


I spoke with Alex (he's my coach) yesterday and his stance is similar to Trisna, Jun and Grace and the other players of their caliber: they don't have the time to train to compete at that level. They may play a tourney once in a while but to continuously play and train for every tournament, they just cannot devote that time. They've had their glory and it's time to move on (so to speak). So the "re-emerging players" (as you call it, good name) while only re-emerge once in a while or in Alex's case, once in a blue moon when I plead him to play a tourney with me. :p



Or perhap other good players who have never tried out suddenly re-surface to take on the challenge ..... the more the merrier ....


This is the best possibility as in the 6 months I've been at SGVBC I've seen a few Junior Nationals improve in leaps and bounds. Also some young 20 somethings improve at a tremendous rate too. In a year or two, it'll be interesting to see if they can compete.



I just wish more and more badminton players can come out and support the sport especially in a USA Badminton sanctioned event so that years after years we dont see the eroding number of players coming out for the trial.


Of course, we all wish that. :)



I mean we all talk the talk of trying to promote the sport of badminton in the US; but do we walk the talk !!! I know for a fact that they are lots of excellent players in the West Coast region (region 5) esp in SGVBC and perhaps Nor Cal clubs, but unless they come out to support these natioanl events, then the sport will really go no where !!!


Again, playing in tourneys is very time consuming, not all people can get out there. I know some 40 somethings that play a very decent game and ask them about playing in the U.S. Open or other tourneys and they all say, too much time. They don't have the time. It's very hard to get out there.



And how can we present the sport to the corporate America to get sponsorship if the National event only drawing about 40 players or 60 maximum for all 5 events ??? Think about it !!

Easy, go and ask. :p

[harimau]

I spoke with Alex (he's my coach) yesterday and his stance is similar to Trisna, Jun and Grace and the other players of their caliber: they don't have the time to train to compete at that level. They may play a tourney once in a while but to continuously play and train for every tournament, they just cannot devote that time. They've had their glory and it's time to move on (so to speak). So the "re-emerging players" (as you call it, good name) while only re-emerge once in a while or in Alex's case, once in a blue moon when I plead him to play a tourney with me. :p

I understand that fact too but it depends on what is the motivation to play now. If their motivation to play is to win then of course they have to train hard in order to give him/herself a decent chance to win. But i think with their skills, techniques plus experience most of our emerging junior players will still be unable to tackle them. However, it will be an excellent venue for the juniors to get some kind of experience and sparring/playing with different types and caliber players. As it is now, there is not alot of national level players in the circuit. Did you see the player list i put out at the beginning of this thread ? It will be kind of providing an evaluation for the juniors whether or not they have arrived.

This is the best possibility as in the 6 months I've been at SGVBC I've seen a few Junior Nationals improve in leaps and bounds. Also some young 20 somethings improve at a tremendous rate too. In a year or two, it'll be interesting to see if they can compete.

Of course, they have trained hard and improved a lot too. But then they found no one to test their skills with. All they have now are either the current national players which they still are behind 1 - 2 level or they peer groups. So this emerging juniors do not have the opportunity to play with different players enough to prepare them for the future.
Again, playing in tourneys is very time consuming, not all people can get out there. I know some 40 somethings that play a very decent game and ask them about playing in the U.S. Open or other tourneys and they all say, too much time. They don't have the time. It's very hard to get out there.



Easy, go and ask. :p

Which corporations would want to sponsor an event with such a small spectator bases ? I tried Pizza Hut before they would not even bother. Maybe some smaller businesses would .... but that is not our main target !! We want to go mainstream ..... like NIke, Reebok, Adidas, Billabong, etc etc who might be interested in sports pertinent wears or accessories.
Just my 2 cents.

[DinkAlot]

We want to go mainstream ..... like NIke, Reebok, Adidas, Billabong, etc etc who might be interested in sports pertinent wears or accessories.
Just my 2 cents.

I agree, and Nike is the key.

[harimau]

Sorry this is kind of a short notice !! But this info has been available in OCBC website since the beginning of the year (www.ocbadmintonclub.com). Here is the offer :
What : FREE COACHING CLINIC

Who : Sponsored by YONEX, K&D Graphics, OCBC and BEBE's CAFE
Special thanks to SCBA

When : Jan 28, 06 From : 9:00 am - 2:30pm (8:30 am check in)

Where : OCBC
1432 N Main St, Orange, CA 92867
Phone : 714-639-6222

Free luncheon Provided

After that, Exhibition by world champions and Top Players

HS Coaches are encourage to sign up. Seat are limited so hurry up !!!
For official sign up form, please go to www.ocbadmintonclub.com.

[harimau]

After the COaching Clinic, an Exhibition by world champions and other US national Players will take place in OCBC at around 2:30pm. For those baddicts or badminton fans around So CAL who would like to experience real world class badminton first hand, you guys are welcome to come and watch the real things. This ain't back yard stuff ......

Come one come all ...... the thrill is free ...... bring all your friends .....

[harimau]

EVen though it did not draw a huge turn out of high school coaches from the Southern Section, the clinic was so productive and knowledgeable even for people like myself and others who have been playing badminton for years. There were so many new tips being offered by the big names like Howard Bach, Tony Gunawan, Halim Haryanto, and Bob Malaythong.

There must be about 13 coaches from various High Schools like Bolsa Grande, La Quinta, Cypress, Redland HIgh School, Colton HS, Pioneer Middle School, Mira Costa HS Etc. We all learned so much in a 3 short hour of training. It started out from proper warm up procedures, strecthing, basic grips, hitting position, different strokes, foot works, and single & double & Mix double formation and strategies. And then how to do multi-birds feeding.

We must thank the collaboration between Yonex and OCBC, its coaches for hosting such an excellent event. We hope they will continue doing it next year too.

To top it all, Bebe's Cafe sponsored the luncheon for all participants of the clinic plus Yonex gave out gift bags to all of us......

What an excellent way to spend a Saturday morning ........

[SaintDragon]

There must be about 13 coaches from various High Schools like Bolsa Grande, La Quinta, Cypress, Redland HIgh School, Colton HS, Pioneer Middle School, Mira Costa HS Etc. We all learned so much in a 3 short hour of training. It started out from proper warm up procedures, strecthing, basic grips, hitting position, different strokes, foot works, and single & double & Mix double formation and strategies. And then how to do multi-birds feeding.


Hurray, my coach actually went to the clinic. That's good news since the school is need of better training.

[harimau]

Hurray, my coach actually went to the clinic. That's good news since the school is need of better training.
Is your coach name Mike something ?
I played against him ....He was an old timers; i think he played in the A rank tournament in the 70's. He still has the strokes but since he has not been playing for more than 10 years......he lacks the stamina and the touch or consistencies. But he knows how to play the game .... He should know how to teach you guys the proper techniques. You guys are lucky ..!!

[harimau]

MS - Raju Rai
WS - Eva Lee
MD - Howard Bach/Eric Go
WD - Eva Lee/May Mangkalakiri
XD - May Makalangkiri/Bob Malaythong

Runner ups :
MS : Eric Go
WS : Jamie Subandhi
MD : Bob Malaythong & Raju Rai
WD : Jamie Subandhi & Jennifer Coleman
MX : Bob Malaythong & May Makalangkiri

Congratulations to all winners & the runner ups !!!!

[cheongsa]

MS - Raju Rai
WS - Eva Lee
MD - Howard Bach/Eric Go
WD - Eva Lee/May Mangkalakiri
XD - May Makalangkiri/Bob Malaythong

Runner ups :
MS : Eric Go
WS : Jamie Subandhi
MD : Bob Malaythong & Raju Rai
WD : Jamie Subandhi & Jennifer Coleman
MX : Bob Malaythong & May Makalangkiri

Congratulations to all winners & the runner ups !!!!

Interesting... Malaythong/Makalangkiri beat Malaythong/Makalangkiri in the finals?

[harimau]

Interesting... Malaythong/Makalangkiri beat Malaythong/Makalangkiri in the finals?
SOrry mistyped.

It should be :

Runner-up :

MX : Howard Bach & Jennifer COleman

Hei thanks for pointing it out CHeongsa....

[harimau]

2006 Thomas Cup Team
Raju Rai (1st MS, 2nd MD) - OCBC, CA
Eric Go (2nd MS, 3rd MD) - OCBC, CA
Howard Shu (3rd MS) - OCBC, CA
Tony Gunawan (1st MD) -OCBC, CA
Howard Bach (1st MD) - OCBC, CA
Bob Malaythong (2nd MD) - OCBC, CA
Ronald Sou (3rd MD) - OCBC, CA

2006 Uber Cup Team
Lili Zhou (1st WS) - Smash City, CA
Jamie Subandhi (2nd WS) - OCBC, CA
Cindy Shi (3rd WS) - OCBC, CA
Mesinee Mangkalakiri (1st WD) - OCBC, CA
Eva Lee (1st WD) - OCBC, CA
Melinda Keszthelyi (2nd WD) - Marblehead, MA
Jennifer Coleman (2nd WD) - OCBC, CA
Rulan Yeh (3rd WD) - OCBC, CA
Rulien Yeh (3rd WD) - OCBC, CA

They are all leaving for Lima, Peru this weekend to represent and fight for the honor of the USA in the Pan AMerican Region before they can go to the next/final round in Japan in APr 28 - May 7, 2006. Good luck to all of them !!!
Hope they can come out from the Panam Zone as the winner.
The 2 teams that present the threat for the US team is :
CANADA & PERU

[harimau]

For the latest Thomas & Uber Cups results and scores, you may want to go to www.tournamentsoftware.com.

As of now, the semifinal standing is as follows:
Thomas CUp:
Canada Vs Guatemala
USA Vs Peru

Uber Cup:
Canada Vs Cuba
USA Vs Peru

My prediction for final will be :

Canada Vs USA for both Thomas & Uber Cups.

And as the prediction for final results :

Thomas cup : USA 4 Canada 1
Uber Cup : USA 3 Canada 2

[DinkAlot]

My prediction for final will be :

Canada Vs USA for both Thomas & Uber Cups.

And as the prediction for final results :

Thomas cup : USA 4 Canada 1
Uber Cup : USA 3 Canada 2

With Lili Zhou playing, the U.S. has a much better chance in the Uber. :D

[harimau]

I Know huh. I remember in the 2004 US Open Lili Zhou destroyed Canadian No 1 single Charmain Reid easily during 1 or 2 round of the main draw. The reason of my prediction is 3 to 2 is that we might lose one single and 1 double event.

But yesterday during the playing time at OCBC, I heard US Uber CUp Team has already advanced by beating Canadian Team 3- 0 but i can't see the results yet at www.tournamentsoftware.com

[harimau]

2006 PABC Mens & Womens Championships
Last updated: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:22 AM

Match overview of CAN UBER - USA UBER on Sat 2/18/2006

1 WS1 Reid, Charmaine - Lee, Eva 11-21 20-22
2 WS2 Florence Lavioe - Lili Zhou 9-21 7-21
3 WS3 Sarah Macmaster - Cindy Shi 18-21 10-21

CAN UBER - USA UBER: 0-3

THOMAS CUP Lines Up USA Vs Canada
1 MS1 Milroy, Bobby - Raju Rai 21-16 20-22 18-21
2 MS2 Dabeka, Andrew - Go, Eric 21-14 21-12
3 MS3 Wojcikiewicz, Stefan - Bach, Howard 21-13 21-4
4 MD1 Milroy, William & Beres, Mike - Gunawan, Tony & Raju Rai 18-21 19-21
5 MD2 Milroy, Bobby & Dabeka, Andrew - Bach, Howard & Go, Eric 15-21 20-22

CAN THOM - USA THOM: 2-3

CONGRATULATIONS TO USA TEAMS of Thomas & Uber Cups Panam Region CHampion !!
They made it into the Final Round which will be held in Japan, in May 2006.

[DinkAlot]

Harimau: thanks for the update.

Raju and Milroy play each other tough, they always go three sets.

Interesting to see Howard and Tony split up (to share the wealth) and play with other partners. :)

[harimau]

It is sad to see such a small turnouts for the Dave Freeman tournament this weekend.

For more info, go to www.tournamentsoftware.com

[DinkAlot]

It is sad to see such a small turnouts for the Dave Freeman tournament this weekend.

For more info, go to www.tournamentsoftware.com (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com)

Agree. I know quite a few SGVBCers are injured and elected not to play.

[harimau]

Agree. I know quite a few SGVBCers are injured and elected not to play.
I think the other issue is the Entry Fee is quite pricey ....plus the distance (Gas price is rather expensive now) .... it actually could be keys determinant to the draw of the crowd.

Comparing to the BAY Area Open which draws an average of 250 - 300 players everytime they hold the tourney, i kind of wonder as to why in the down south tourneys we have not seen that kind of number in any tournaments at all. Is it because we dont have enough players in the south or what ???

[DinkAlot]

I think the other issue is the Entry Fee is quite pricey ....plus the distance (Gas price is rather expensive now) .... it actually could be keys determinant to the draw of the crowd.

Comparing to the BAY Area Open which draws an average of 250 - 300 players everytime they hold the tourney, i kind of wonder as to why in the down south tourneys we have not seen that kind of number in any tournaments at all. Is it because we dont have enough players in the south or what ???

Yes, the entry fee was very expensive...we have plenty of players in the south. :p

[harimau]

Yes, the entry fee was very expensive...we have plenty of players in the south. :p
But where are all those hard core fan who always play in SGVBC until am 2 - 3 am. It seems to me they almost never play at Open tourneys ....

I have seen lots of good players (street players) but they are raw talents who are capable of playing excellent badminton even w no proper training. They hardly participate in the USA Badminton sanctioned event .... do you know roughly why ???

[SaintDragon]

But where are all those hard core fan who always play in SGVBC until am 2 - 3 am. It seems to me they almost never play at Open tourneys ....

I have seen lots of good players (street players) but they are raw talents who are capable of playing excellent badminton even w no proper training. They hardly participate in the USA Badminton sanctioned event .... do you know roughly why ???

Some people just enjoy being lazy : )

[DinkAlot]

But where are all those hard core fan who always play in SGVBC until am 2 - 3 am. It seems to me they almost never play at Open tourneys ....

I have seen lots of good players (street players) but they are raw talents who are capable of playing excellent badminton even w no proper training. They hardly participate in the USA Badminton sanctioned event .... do you know roughly why ???

Who you calling a "street player"?! :eek: ...Oh wait, that's what I am. :p

And we don't play until 2-3am, we play until 3-4am, get it right. :p :D

Why? Lots of reasons:

1) Some go to church on Sunday

2) Some have family obligations

3) Some play for fun, not for glory

4) Some don't like tourney formats/the wait, your whole weekend is gone

5) Some don't feel they are good enough to play :p

6) Some only want to play a few matches, not potentially 5-6 matches that can last all day/weekend: physically too demanding

7) Entry fees cost a lot these days :p

8) I'm sure there are many more reasons that are time and commitment related.

[harimau]

Who you calling a "street player"?! :eek: ...Oh wait, that's what I am. :p

And we don't play until 2-3am, we play until 3-4am, get it right. :p :D

Why? Lots of reasons:

1) Some go to church on Sunday

2) Some have family obligations

3) Some play for fun, not for glory

4) Some don't like tourney formats/the wait, your whole weekend is gone

5) Some don't feel they are good enough to play :p

6) Some only want to play a few matches, not potentially 5-6 matches that can last all day/weekend: physically too demanding

7) Entry fees cost a lot these days :p

8) I'm sure there are many more reasons that are time and commitment related.

Thanks for the feedback, DInk...... i see it they are all legitimate reasons ......
It is just too bad and sad to see cause in northern cal, people who already retired from badminton still come out to support the sport they play even they know that their glory days are over e.g. Ben Lee, Stanley Wu, Kevin Yang, Jin Song, etc..... and esp the highschoolers, they know if they meet one of the USA Badminton Players they will get toasted but they still come out and take up the challenge to find out where they take as compared to our BOB (best of the best). So i dont know what to say .... perhaps players up there have more itch for tournaments than players down south ....just my 2 cents.

[harimau]

COngratulations to Eva Lee of OCBC for winning a triple crown (1st Pl in WS, WD, MX) in the recent Dave Freeman tournament in San Diego. She basically dominated all the events. Also for Raju Rai to get the double crown in MS & MD.

Congratulations to other OCBC players as well for the job well done.

For rest of other results, go to www.tournamentsoftware.com.

[harimau]

Tony GUnawan & Howard Bach are in China Masters 06 Now

[harimau]

Too bad they lost in the Semi Final against China 1st Double Team Fu & Cai.

Hi Dinkalot, it was nice to finally met you on Sunday.

[DinkAlot]

Too bad they lost in the Semi Final against China 1st Double Team Fu & Cai.

Hi Dinkalot, it was nice to finally met you on Sunday.


Fu & Cai were too strong this time for Tony and Howard this time around...oh well, there's always next time. :)

Hello Harimau, it was great to meet you too at SAC. I would never have known it was you until I saw your daughter Claudia from the stands. I was telling my double's partner, Tommy, "I know that girl from somewhere." Then it hit me, she, Yannie and Ants are the most photographed individuals on BC. :D

[DinkAlot]

Double post...weird.

[harimau]

Winners of BOSTON OPEN :

MS : Raju Rai (OCBC) bt Tony Gunawan (OCBC)
WS : Lily Zhou (Smash City) bt Eva Lee (OCBC)
MD : Howard Bach & Bob Malaythong (OCBC) bt Halim Haryanto & Raju Rai (OCBC)
WD : Eva Lee & May Mangkalakiri bt Angelina De Pauw & Laurent Todt
MX : Halim Haryanto (OCBC) & Angelina De Pauw bt Tony Gunawan & Jennifer Coleman (OCBC)

Congratulations to all .....

[harimau]

2006 K&D Graphics United States Adult National Championships
4/7/2006 - 4/9/2006
Orange County Badminton Club, Orange, CA
Contact: Gus Chew gus@kdgpp.com 714-639-8900

Come watch the game ......it is free entry !!!

[DinkAlot]

2006 K&D Graphics United States Adult National Championships
4/7/2006 - 4/9/2006
Orange County Badminton Club, Orange, CA
Contact: Gus Chew gus@kdgpp.com 714-639-8900

Come watch the game ......it is free entry !!!


It's too late to sign-up to play, right?

[harimau]

Way too late Dink.....the deadline was on Mar 7, 06.
Maybe next time around if you are interested. I heard Don Van is playing with Randy Hsia in double event, while Randy will play mix event with CHeryl CHow. Go ...go... our future champion...... the more tournaments they play they more experience they get .....

[ctjcad]

Hi ko Kurtis,
how are you?..
do you know who will play??And where i can see the draw, if it's already up??I can't seem to find it on tournamentsoftware website nor OCBC website...:p
I'm thinking of stopping by to watch..thx for the info..:)

Way too late Dink.....the deadline was on Mar 7, 06.
Maybe next time around if you are interested. I heard Don Van is playing with Randy Hsia in double event, while Randy will play mix event with CHeryl CHow. Go ...go... our future champion...... the more tournaments they play they more experience they get .....

[harimau]

It should be posted under www.tournamentsoftware.com by Thursday evening or Wednesday nite. The draw is quite small .....i heard it is like less than 60 players.....

[ctjcad]

Thanks for the info ko Hardi ..:)
hmm, looks like the draw is up already...
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=10065
yah, the draw is quite small, but quite interesting as i can see a few SGVBC players participating...didn't see Tony or Halim participating..But Howard and Bob will strut their stuff as a new pair for the first time..:)
BTW, just wondering, do you know if this tournament will use the new 21-pt under-trial scoring system or the normal scoring system..:rolleyes:

It should be posted under www.tournamentsoftware.com by Thursday evening or Wednesday nite. The draw is quite small .....i heard it is like less than 60 players.....

[Viper2005]

Such small draw, looks like a local tournament.

Hardly anyone from east coast coming to this tournament.

I guess the OCBC players scared everyone away at the Boston Open.

Seems tournament participation is getting lower and lower.:(

[DinkAlot]

Such small draw, looks like a local tournament.

Hardly anyone from east coast coming to this tournament.

I guess the OCBC players scared everyone away at the Boston Open.

Seems tournament participation is getting lower and lower.:(

I see a lot of young SGVBCers on the draw. That's good see. :D

[harimau]

USAB has not adopted the new IBF scoring system yet for domestic tournaments. So the old scoring system will still be used (3 x 15, 3x11). You know what i mean.

Again it is just sad to see the low turnout of players. I mean where are you all hard core badminton fanatics ?

[DinkAlot]

Again it is just sad to see the low turnout of players. I mean where are you all hard core badminton fanatics ?

You should have Nick and Claudia play. :D

[harimau]

It is totally a different league still, bro. It can not be forced !!! Let the "force" comes naturally. When it arrives, then of course we will let them play and gain the an invaluable experience to play in an open circuit ...

[DinkAlot]

It is totally a different league still, bro. It can not be forced !!! Let the "force" comes naturally. When it arrives, then of course we will let them play and gain the an invaluable experience to play in an open circuit ...

Of course, I was kidding. :p

[shreky]

Such small draw, looks like a local tournament.

Hardly anyone from east coast coming to this tournament.

I guess the OCBC players scared everyone away at the Boston Open.

Seems tournament participation is getting lower and lower.:(


viper .... who won in the boston open? ... i assume guys from cali?? the boston open organizers haven't updated their website yet and the people i know who played left early when they lost .... just wondering who won.

[Viper2005]

viper .... who won in the boston open? ... i assume guys from cali?? the boston open organizers haven't updated their website yet and the people i know who played left early when they lost .... just wondering who won.

Ladies Singles-Lili Zhou
Mens Singles- Raju
Womens Doubles -Eva & Mei
Mens Doubles-Howard-Bob
Mixed- Halim & Angeline

There is a thread on it.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31649

[harimau]

Of course, I was kidding. :p
Hei how come i did nt see at the bench area for the 06 US Adult National .... Were u there this past two days ?? I saw Don Van .....

[harimau]

2006 K&D Graphics United States Adult National Championships
4/7/2006 - 4/9/2006
Orange County Badminton Club, Orange, CA
Contact: Gus Chew gus@kdgpp.com 714-639-8900

Come watch the game ......it is free entry !!!

During the last two days of 06 US Adult National, i am so glad to see so many junior players stepping up to participate in it. I mean they know that they might not have the chance to win but the courage to take part in it is worth mentioning and earn an applaud for them.

Despite that, i have seen huge improvement from these juniors namely Rena Wang, Joanne Chen, Vimla Phongasavithas, Cheryl Chow, Priscilla Lun, Thuy Hoang, Laurent Todt, Daphne Ng for the girls and Yau Hwa Chan, Emmanuel Pun, Bartolo Chan, Randy Hsia, the Lin Bros (Marvin & Calvin), Chris Lun, Azam Ali, Sasha Boyarin, and of course, Arnold Setiadi, Andrew Todt, Ronald Sou plus others like the Shu Bros, Stephen WOng etc.

Keep up the good work .....

For latest results, go to www.tournamentsoftware.com

[ctjcad]

I saw most of those junior players also myself...They do showed courage and tremendous improvements from the last time i saw them compete, despite their end result..

I know some of the players mentioned are from Northern California, and they are not part of the OCBC training center...
But personally, not too sound i'm undermining the training up north in NorCal, but i strongly believe some of them have the talent and skill in-par or close to par with the OCBC-trained juniors(esp. Bartolo Chen and Arnold Setiadi for Men's and Daphne Ng and Lauren Todt for Women's field)..But IMO getting trained here @ OCBC will really polish their game even more...Just to name two junior player i saw with a big improvement was Jack Shu(the big, tall MD junior player who really showed some power smashing) and Kuei-Ya Chan(WS)..:)..

If they do decide to move down here and train @ OCBC, which i hope those juniors will, boy i can see and picture the US National team really continue the success without any degradation...And i can't wait to see them improve even more and win future US Nationals/IBF tournaments..

Of course, if they are also able to be sent to outside international tournaments, have it Satellite or 1 or 2 stars tournaments, who knows what the limits..:):cool:

After all, they are and will be the future of US Badminton, within 2-3 yrs...:)


During the last two days of 06 US Adult National, i am so glad to see so many junior players stepping up to participate in it. I mean they know that they might not have the chance to win but the courage to take part in it is worth mentioning and earn an applaud for them.

Despite that, i have seen huge improvement from these juniors namely Rena Wang, Joanne Chen, Vimla Phongasavithas, Cheryl Chow, Priscilla Lun, Thuy Hoang, Laurent Todt, Daphne Ng for the girls and Yau Hwa Chan, Emmanuel Pun, Bartolo Chan, Randy Hsia, the Lin Bros (Marvin & Calvin), Chris Lun, Azam Ali, Sasha Boyarin, and of course, Arnold Setiadi, Andrew Todt, Ronald Sou plus others like the Shu Bros, Stephen WOng etc.

Keep up the good work .....

For latest results, go to www.tournamentsoftware.com

[shreky]

Ladies Singles-Lili Zhou
Mens Singles- Raju
Womens Doubles -Eva & Mei
Mens Doubles-Howard-Bob
Mixed- Halim & Angeline

There is a thread on it.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31649


thanks ... i didn't know there was a link on this.

[harimau]

06 US Adult National Results

MS Raju Rai bt Howard Bach 14-17,15-10, 15-9
WS Eva Lee bt Jamie Subandhi 11-7, 11-2
MD Howard Bach & Bob Malaythong bt Ronald Sou & Eric Go 15-11, 15-10
WD Johanna Lee & Grace Peng bt Eva Lee & May Mangkalangkiri 15-8,4-15, 15-7
MX Howard Bach & Eva Lee bt Bob Malaythong & May Mangkalakiri 17-14, 15-4

[TrunkZ69]

Bart does train at OCBC


I saw most of those junior players also myself...They do showed courage and tremendous improvements from the last time i saw them compete, despite their end result..

I know some of the players mentioned are from Northern California, and they are not part of the OCBC training center...
But personally, not too sound i'm undermining the training up north in NorCal, but i strongly believe some of them have the talent and skill in-par or close to par with the OCBC-trained juniors(esp. Bartolo Chen and Arnold Setiadi for Men's and Daphne Ng and Lauren Todt for Women's field)..But IMO getting trained here @ OCBC will really polish their game even more...Just to name two junior player i saw with a big improvement was Jack Shu(the big, tall MD junior player who really showed some power smashing) and Kuei-Ya Chan(WS)..:)..

If they do decide to move down here and train @ OCBC, which i hope those juniors will, boy i can see and picture the US National team really continue the success without any degradation...And i can't wait to see them improve even more and win future US Nationals/IBF tournaments..

Of course, if they are also able to be sent to outside international tournaments, have it Satellite or 1 or 2 stars tournaments, who knows what the limits..:):cool:

After all, they are and will be the future of US Badminton, within 2-3 yrs...:)

[DinkAlot]

Hei how come i did nt see at the bench area for the 06 US Adult National .... Were u there this past two days ?? I saw Don Van .....

I was playing at SGVBC and had other commitments. Next time, I'll "donate" but I'll go down smashing...I mean dinking... :p :D

[DinkAlot]

WD Johanna Lee & Grace Peng bt Eva Lee & May Mangkalangkiri 15-8,4-15, 15-7


Monday Pot play should be interesting at SGVBC, everyone will want to challenge Grace and Johanna. :p :D

[ctjcad]

OK, thanks for the correction TrunkZ69...i didn't know abt that, i guess he recently joined the OCBC training team(saw his name and picture on the OCBC 2006 Elite team)..:cool:

Bart does train at OCBC

[harimau]

Bartolo has been training in OCBC since 2005. He moved here from SF since he started college here at the UCI along with his brother Benedict Chen. He used to train with Arnold Setiadi under coach Kevin Zheng.

[joits]

06 US Adult National Results

MS Raju Rai bt Howard Bach 14-17,15-10, 15-9
WS Eva Lee bt Jamie Subandhi 11-7, 11-2
MD Howard Bach & Bob Malaythong bt Ronald Sou & Eric Go 15-11, 15-10
WD Johanna Lee & Grace Peng bt Eva Lee & May Mangkalangkiri 15-8,4-15, 15-7
MX Howard Bach & Eva Lee bt Bob Malaythong & May Mangkalakiri 17-14, 15-4

i was there for the tournament. even tho i've been playing for a few years, it's my first time to attend a tournament. it was amazing to see how good these players are! loved the rai/bach game and of course the men's doubles.

anyone know why apolo anton ohno was there? i'm guessing he's friends with some of the players.

also, what is pot play? thanks for the info.

[DinkAlot]

also, what is pot play? thanks for the info.

SGVBC has an informal "Pot" on Monday and Thursdays. Entry fee, $5 or $10 per person depending on the number of people that sign up. It's single elimination, minimum 4 teams, max 16 teams, winners take all. Pairing is dependent on who's playing and how many.

Recently there hasn't been too many true Pots. Just one match side bets.

[ctjcad]

i was there for the tournament. even tho i've been playing for a few years, it's my first time to attend a tournament. it was amazing to see how good these players are! loved the rai/bach game and of course the men's doubles.
Too bad Tony Gunawan nor Halim Haryanto (nor other badminton fanatics in the U.S.) didn't sign up and participate to play..but the players who participated were very good themselves..:)
Did you watch last year's World Championship here in our own backyard @ the Anaheim Pond??..If not, you really missed a wonderful treat..
On that note, no worries, wait til you see and attend the upcoming US Open, which hopefully should come this August or September..Now, that's a real IBF grade tournament with other international players participating(albeit a 1* tourney)..:cool:

anyone know why apolo anton ohno was there? i'm guessing he's friends with some of the players.
heh??..Apollo Ohno came to OCBC??..which day, cos i didn't see him..:confused:

[harimau]

Did you know that USA Badminton will adapt into the new scoring system right after TC/UC in Japan due to the fact that most countries (90%) are accepting it now. So guys no more 3x 15 or 3x 11 games anymore .......

[DinkAlot]

Did you know that USA Badminton will adapt into the new scoring system right after TC/UC in Japan due to the fact that most countries (90%) are accepting it now. So guys no more 3x 15 or 3x 11 games anymore .......

Maaaaaan, that stinks. :( ...:p ...:D

[harimau]

Too bad Tony Gunawan nor Halim Haryanto (nor other badminton fanatics in the U.S.) didn't sign up and participate to play..but the players who participated were very good themselves..:)
Did you watch last year's World Championship here in our own backyard @ the Anaheim Pond??..If not, you really missed a wonderful treat..
On that note, no worries, wait til you see and attend the upcoming US Open, which hopefully should come this August or September..Now, that's a real IBF grade tournament with other international players participating(albeit a 1* tourney)..:cool:

heh??..Apollo Ohno came to OCBC??..which day, cos i didn't see him..:confused:
CTJCAD, yup Appollo ONO was there throughout the whole time from Sat thru Sun in the audiance. He is very friendly ..... i took some pics with him.. In fact, he also played some badminton against Raju on Sun afternoon. He looks pretty good .... fast and quick, has some pretty good skills too. I hope he will become badminton ambassador too like the singer, Sally Yap.

[ctjcad]

Did you know that USA Badminton will adapt into the new scoring system right after TC/UC in Japan due to the fact that most countries (90%) are accepting it now. So guys no more 3x 15 or 3x 11 games anymore .......

Maaaaaan, that stinks. :( ...:p ...:D
wow..is that right??..:confused:
wow, so i guess the consensus on the new scoring system is, it will stay permanently after the TC/UC??even before the final decision is decided later during the meeting after TC/UC??...:confused: :rolleyes:

[ctjcad]

CTJCAD, yup Appollo ONO was there throughout the whole time from Sat thru Sun in the audiance. He is very friendly ..... i took some pics with him.. In fact, he also played some badminton against Raju on Sun afternoon. He looks pretty good .... fast and quick, has some pretty good skills too. I hope he will become badminton ambassador too like the singer, Sally Yap.
hehe, i wasn't paying attention and must've missed seeing him then...:p
i wonder if he was sitting the whole time during the tournament, cos i don't recall seeing him playing baddie with Raju..:p
btw harimau, mind sharing the pics you took with Mr. Ohno??..:)

[joits]

i have some pics of Ohno if anyone is interested. you can view my other pics of the tourny there as well. i just got my camera and still learning how to use it so some of the pics are a bit dark.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joits/sets/72057594103105609/

Ohno didn't sit on the bleachers much... he mostly hung on the side of the bleachers with Howard Bach and Eric Go. Saw him hit a birdie up against the wall for a few mins.

[DinkAlot]

i have some pics of Ohno if anyone is interested. you can view my other pics of the tourny there as well. i just got my camera and still learning how to use it so some of the pics are a bit dark.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joits/sets/72057594103105609/

Ohno didn't sit on the bleachers much... he mostly hung on the side of the bleachers with Howard Bach and Eric Go. Saw him hit a birdie up against the wall for a few mins.

Joits, thanks for sharing, this picture is great:

http://static.flickr.com/1/126041259_2446d1ae87_b.jpg

[harimau]

2006 Thomas Cup Team
Raju Rai (1st MS, 2nd MD)
Eric Go (2nd MS, 3rd MD)
Howard Shu (3rd MS)
Tony Gunawan (1st MD)
Howard Bach (1st MD)
Bob Malaythong (2nd MD)
Ronald Sou (3rd MD)

2006 Uber Cup Team
Lili Zhou (1st WS)
Jamie Subandhi (2nd WS)
Cindy Shi (3rd WS)
Mesinee Mangkalakiri (1st WD)
Eva Lee (1st WD)
Melinda Keszthelyi (2nd WD) got injured and is replaced by Laurent Todt
Jennifer Coleman (2nd WD)
Rulan Yeh (3rd WD)
Rulien Yeh (3rd WD)

They are leaving for Sendai, Japan this week to compete in the most prestigious badminton event in the world.

Wish them best of luck ....

[ctjcad]

2006 Thomas Cup Team
Raju Rai (1st MS, 2nd MD)
Eric Go (2nd MS, 3rd MD)
Howard Shu (3rd MS)
Tony Gunawan (1st MD)
Howard Bach (1st MD)
Bob Malaythong (2nd MD)
Ronald Sou (3rd MD)

2006 Uber Cup Team
Lili Zhou (1st WS)
Jamie Subandhi (2nd WS)
Cindy Shi (3rd WS)
Mesinee Mangkalakiri (1st WD)
Eva Lee (1st WD)
Melinda Keszthelyi (2nd WD) got injured and is replaced by Laurent Todt
Jennifer Coleman (2nd WD)
Rulan Yeh (3rd WD)
Rulien Yeh (3rd WD)

They are leaving for Sendai, Japan this week to compete in the most prestigious badminton event in the world.

Wish them best of luck ....
Yes, best of luck to them also..

They should already left, if not within a day??..cos the competition is starting on April 27th??..

Some personal thoughts:
Hmm, noticed Eva won't be playing 1st WS, as a matter of fact not even in a Single event??.. but rather Lily Zhou and the veteran & coach Cindy is playing 3rd WS?? I guess they want to save her(Eva's) energy for the WD event??..But if they go with the current format, SSSDD, hopefully one of the 3 WS player can win, if not they'll be sitting and not playing..
Unfortunate for Ms. Keszthelyi, but what a good news & big break for Ms. Todt..

For 3rd MS, i thought Howard Bach should play instead..Cos it will be the last Men's event, in case they go that far, and he will already played his MD(1st) event with Tony..I thought they should've added Bartolo Chen also, so Raju and Eric Go can just focus on MS..hmmm

Anyways, some of them will have early jitters, but should be fine as the tourney progress. Long wish, but looking fw to them at least reaching the QF..Good luck and they should get lots of experience from this..And hope they enjoy themselves and have lots of fun..:):cool:

[harimau]

I am surprised when i learned that Howard Bach did not join the team to Japan this time. ??????? Now the chance for US TC Team to steal 1 point from other teams become dimmer ......:crying:

[ctjcad]

found this article from Westways magazine(part of AAA) in their May/June 2006 issue. And if you guys scroll down, check out the 2nd article...enjoy!:)

http://www.aaa-calif.com/westways/0506/features/sports.asp

[B3nny H4nn4]

the link doesn't work...

[ctjcad]

..oops, sorry..:p
anyways, here it is in PDFd format; see page 6-9..enjoy-:)

[harimau]

I have a hard copy of the article which i received it from AAA first hand.

[ctjcad]

I have a hard copy of the article which i received it from AAA first hand.
hehe, i've got a hardcopy of the magazine also; but i thought rather than scanning it, it was easier if i find it thru its online website....fortunately, i found it, thus i created the PDF file..;)

[harimau]

Congratulations to Tony Gunawan & Chandra Wijaya for winning the 6 Star 2006 Korean Open Mens Doubles Championship. What an accomplishment !!!

[NarutoFreak1]

Anyone here know Calvin Lin from OCBC?

[harimau]

Anyone here know Calvin Lin from OCBC?
What do you want to know about Calvin ?

[NarutoFreak1]

Like if hes got aim and stuff. I met him during my schools tournament.

[harimau]

Like if hes got aim and stuff. I met him during my schools tournament.
I will get it from him; which HS do you play for ? Did you participate in the Wilson HH High tournament last SAT ?

[NarutoFreak1]

I play for that school. And nah I didn't play. What school you go to? Villa Park?

[Vtec101]

Congratulations to Eva Lee for her triple crown at the Pan Am Games and to the rest of the team.

[cooler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96HNbGGspYg

[DinkAlot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96HNbGGspYg

Thanks for the link!

Wow! Polar Bear sighting at 2:13. :p