View Full Version : Will u take NS8000 over ARM800


rayraymond
05-22-2005, 12:12 AM
Hi,

I have the Yonex Armortec 800 4U/G4 for about 6 months..
the racket is still performing, but will you get the NanoSpeed 8000 over it?

Actually is NS8000 better for single or double? and talking about smashing and control, which one will perform better?

KourKK
05-22-2005, 12:57 AM
I do not know as yet, but i Have a 4U/G4 A800OF, and i will be buying a Nanospeed 8000 on tuesday, i will give you feedback after using the rackets.

nutty
05-22-2005, 02:01 AM
I've tried both NS8000 and AT800 DE and OF, and since I have a preference towards the Slim 10, I would have to go with the NS8000. I play both singles and doubles using the Slim 10, although it is more for singles.

For doubles, I would still prefer the AT800 because they are able to generate more power all things being equal, and as of now, I'm going to say they're more durable until someone can prove that the NS8000 is durable as well (Slim 10s are always breaking on me).

Smashing will definitely be better on the AT800s but for control, that all depends on how you like your rackets, i.e. head heavy, head light etc.

For control, I'd definitely prefer the NS8000, although the AT800 DE is quite close behind.

ants
05-22-2005, 09:15 AM
For singles i would go for NS8000. But for Doubles , AT800 OF is still my preferred choice. :)

Woven
05-22-2005, 08:01 PM
just got my NS8k today, so won't comment on that, but for doubles id prefer AT800DE, xcellent control & pretty good power (im the controller, not smasher).

rayraymond
05-23-2005, 11:10 AM
just got my NS8k today, so won't comment on that, but for doubles id prefer AT800DE, xcellent control & pretty good power (im the controller, not smasher).

I like to smash alot, but the AT800OF i am using is 4U, i want to try NS8k for more power. Is NS8K a good racket for smashing and control?

rayraymond
05-23-2005, 11:17 AM
I like to smash alot, but the AT800OF i am using is 4U, i want to try NS8k for more power. Is NS8K a good racket for smashing and control?

sorry, forgot to mention, i want to get a 3U/4G version.

currently i am using BG80@23lb

Neosakai
05-23-2005, 06:23 PM
According to this chart.. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8579&stc=1

NS8k should have the same or more smashing power as the AT800

I don't think you'll go wrong with buying NS8k

Brave_Turtle
05-23-2005, 08:36 PM
According to this chart.. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8579&stc=1

NS8k should have the same or more smashing power as the AT800

I don't think you'll go wrong with buying NS8k

Don't base your choice on charts. Try it and feel it!

registered
05-23-2005, 08:39 PM
I choose NEITHER hehe just because i rather use my cab 21 when i can go through four of there rather then one nano......... hrm... :D

taneepak
05-23-2005, 09:18 PM
According to this chart.. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8579&stc=1

NS8k should have the same or more smashing power as the AT800

I don't think you'll go wrong with buying NS8k


I don't think this chart in anyway says that the higher you are up on the chart the more power you have. Yonex has officially stated in black and white that the NS8K (power rating 4) has less power than the AT800s AT700, MP99, MP100, MP88 and MP77, and NS7K (power ratings all 5). :)

Neosakai
05-23-2005, 09:21 PM
:o...

I wasn't aware of that sorry.

Taneepak, can you tell me where I can find this information?

rayraymond
05-23-2005, 11:04 PM
:o...

I wasn't aware of that sorry.

Taneepak, can you tell me where I can find this information?

I know the higher you can in the chart the more powerful u can get from smashing. that's y AT800OF and MP100 are on top.
This time NS8K is at top too. and now it move a little to the right. means it is better in single.

I don't know if i switch from 4U to 3U will give me more power in smahsing.?!?!!

HKChua
05-23-2005, 11:14 PM
I don't think this chart in anyway says that the higher you are up on the chart the more power you have. Yonex has officially stated in black and white that the NS8K (power rating 4) has less power than the AT800s AT700, MP99, MP100, MP88 and MP77, and NS7K (power ratings all 5). :)

Sunrise had just called me this morning regarding the 5,4,5 being misunderstood. They will be feeding me with some information, upon receiving it, will post it to the forum.

NS8000 is supposed to be more superior than NS7000.

Thanks.

taneepak
05-24-2005, 02:14 AM
Sunrise had just called me this morning regarding the 5,4,5 being misunderstood. They will be feeding me with some information, upon receiving it, will post it to the forum.

NS8000 is supposed to be more superior than NS7000.

Thanks.

All Yonex's top racquets have always been given the maximum power rating of 5, the exception being the Nano8K. Only an official statement from Yonex Japan on a misprint will allay doubts. It will be interesting to find out what Sunrise or Yonex Japan have to say about this. :D

Morten
05-24-2005, 07:21 AM
can you post this ;) . Its easy to claim but without proof i dont believe you. And if its true i would say its a trick to sell their stuff. Have tried both mp 100, 99 and 88 and 88 is no near as powerful as the other.

KourKK
05-24-2005, 08:08 AM
can you post this ;) . Its easy to claim but without proof i dont believe you. And if its true i would say its a trick to sell their stuff. Have tried both mp 100, 99 and 88 and 88 is no near as powerful as the other.

I dont quite agree with you. I too have the 88/99. But i do not think the power difference is that noticeble. The 99 is stiffer, but i like the flexibility of the 88.

But Back to the topic, i have an 800 OF and now a 8000. I think that the 8000 is a better racket. The Smashing power is incredible, the shots are crisp and the feel is amazing (once you get your timing correct). You wont regret buying it.

McKenny
05-24-2005, 09:56 AM
I choose NEITHER hehe just because i rather use my cab 21 when i can go through four of there rather then one nano......... hrm... :D

Just tried the NS8K for a game but no as powerful as my old Cab21.. However I will still try to prove u wrong since I already paid for it.. haha...

|R|S
05-24-2005, 10:02 AM
i find at800offensive has more power than NS8k. and this is comparing 2U (NS) to 4U (at800)...

i find that the nano series are suitable for those who use wrists and snaps/whips... but the AT800 series is more suitable for those who use arm...

McKenny
05-24-2005, 10:16 AM
i find at800offensive has more power than NS8k. and this is comparing 2U (NS) to 4U (at800)...

i find that the nano series are suitable for those who use wrists and snaps/whips... but the AT800 series is more suitable for those who use arm...

I have got a 3U NS... I guess due to the difficulty in manuevring AT800, I find NS8K is more powerful by the easy snap...

taneepak
05-25-2005, 03:32 AM
Sunrise had just called me this morning regarding the 5,4,5 being misunderstood. They will be feeding me with some information, upon receiving it, will post it to the forum.

NS8000 is supposed to be more superior than NS7000.

Thanks.

Sunrise has probably contacted Yonex Japan about the low power rating of 4 for the NS8K. It will be interesting to find out if more information will be forthcoming. ;)

Fusion_M8
05-26-2005, 10:07 PM
Can anyone who has used both the NS8000 and the AT800OF tell me which racket feels stiffer and has less flex in the shaft ?

Yonex charts claim they both have similar stiffness, but one is head heavy and the other head light. One has 4% more power, the other has 5% more power, but more power than what???

Wanna buy the NS8000, but don't wanna get a racket that feels like an overcooked noodle compared to the stiffness and power of my 3UG4 AT800OF. In Australia, no chance to demo rackets before buying :mad:

Valued opinions anybody?? :confused:

taneepak
05-26-2005, 10:58 PM
Can anyone who has used both the NS8000 and the AT800OF tell me which racket feels stiffer and has less flex in the shaft ?

Yonex charts claim they both have similar stiffness, but one is head heavy and the other head light. One has 4% more power, the other has 5% more power, but more power than what???

Wanna buy the NS8000, but don't wanna get a racket that feels like an overcooked noodle compared to the stiffness and power of my 3UG4 AT800OF. In Australia, no chance to demo rackets before buying :mad:

Valued opinions anybody?? :confused:

Yonex does not measure racquet flex based soley on the shaft. Their flex rating is based on the combined flex of both the frame and the shaft, which actually makes more sense, because the dimensional stability of the frame on off-center hits is crucial. A very stiff shaft is utterly useless if the frame deforms or flexes everytime you hit an off-center shot.
Based on Yonex's flex rating, the NS8K has a flex rating of 4 the NS7K 5. Therefore the NS7K has a stiffer flex. :D

HKChua
05-27-2005, 01:54 AM
Dear Mr. Kelvin Chua,

I am sorry that I have kept you waiting for our reply. Could you allow me to explain what I did for this?

Because the chart was published by our distributor in Singapore, I asked the person here in charge of Singapore distributor to find what kind of chart it was, and why they put 5,5,5 on NS7000 and 4,4,5 on NS8000. Now they are discussing about this and will find how to explain. So could you wait their reply for a while?

For my opinion, there must be some misunderstanding, because the catalog issued by us (YONEX Tokyo) says that NS7000, AT800, AT700, MP100, MP99, and MP88 are power "5" and control "5" even if each of them has each different technology and performance. This is just simply because, all the rackets are in the same level. NS8000 is also in the same level. So as I mentioned above, there must be misunderstanding.

Regards,


YONEX Co.,Ltd.
International Div.



Hi badminton friends,

Above is the reply from YONEX Japan regarding the grading of NS7000 and NS8000. So... those who have been saving for NS8000 need not be so disappointed.

Thanks

cooler
05-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Hi badminton friends,

Above is the reply from YONEX Japan regarding the grading of NS7000 and NS8000. So... those who have been saving for NS8000 need not be so disappointed.

Thanks


http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21062&page=26&pp=10&highlight=AT300

as i have expected, those ratings came from local or regional source, not yonex japan.