Just yesterday I picked up my new MP99 from the stringer. When I got home I noticed there's a grommet that looks like it's falling out.... I have a 6 months warrenty on this, but does this count as a defect? Or will the stringer say it's my fault? The racquet was strung with BG85 at 25x27.

http://img26.echo.cx/img26/500/dscn02765zl.jpg


http://img147.echo.cx/img147/7752/dscn02777ij.jpg


I was kinda in a hurry so the pics are crappy, but you can see a grommet that's not properly placed....


http://img147.echo.cx/img147/2803/dscn02785zu.jpg

It sticks out....


http://img147.echo.cx/img147/9039/dscn02807cq.jpg

and on here you can see that it's not fully inserted..... The one I'm talking about is the 8th grommet from the left


Should I just leave it as it is or should I tell the stringer about it?

I'd probably bring it back to the stringer and tell them about it. You know what they say, it's better to be safe than sorry

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

What's this though?

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

What's this though?

Look like the knots, just the tail piece is a bit too long, i think. ;)

and on here you can see that it's not fully inserted..... The one I'm talking about is the 8th grommet from the left


Should I just leave it as it is or should I tell the stringer about it?

If the gromment is not fully inserted, usually it will damage the gromment faster than it should be (bent). However, just replace a gromment should not be a big deal.

If missing way too much (i.e. string still cutting the edge) then it could be serious, as not only the string will snap faster, the carbon might be cut as well.

Neil: That's a knot, sry for the bad pics.. Not good with cameras..
Is the tail of the knot too big? Should I cut abit of it? :rolleyes:


Btw... I managed to take a better pic of this problem

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/558/dscn02812df.jpg

Now we can clearly see which grommet is going to fall out. Question IS...

Is this a serious problem? I hope not, I mean... I just got the racquet. I haven't even play with it. Or should I not worry about it?

Or like Yodums say, it's better to be safe than sorry? So should I tell the stringer about it anyways?

Just push it in and you are good to go :)

Just push it in and you are good to go :)

Lol I tried that for half an hour... Then I started using a hammar to slightly tap it in. But it's still like this....(this as in the pic right above your post, since I just took that pic)

i bought a ns8k and a lot of the gourmets look even worse then that. They really look like they will fall off. I just bought it as well, prestrung. Anyone know where I can purchase some gourmets?

If you're looking to buy grommets, the cheapest place I,ve seen so far is www.mybadmintonstore.com .

As to the danger of grommets like that-- it's as the others say, if it's too far out that the string will be in direct contact with the carbon, this is bad. A grommet that is in the wrong place is pretty much good for nothing. You should ask your stringer about it-- sometimes grommets go places they shouldn't go (or worse, they get split) because of a hasty stringing job where they use their tools to gouge at it to get the string to pass faster.

I'd take it to the stringer and ask him what's up with that-- it says wonders about the care they put into their jobs.

As to the tail ends of the knots being long, it's a matter of personal preference-- I've never seen it make a functional difference since you're not supposed to be hitting birds up there anyhow. Tails too long do catch on clothing and stuff though:rolleyes:

I think the stringer tied the knot in the wrong hole therefore pushing the grommet outwards. Knot tying grommets are specially designed to be fat and flatter. Stringer is to blame

I think the stringer tied the knot in the wrong hole therefore pushing the grommet outwards. Knot tying grommets are specially designed to be fat and flatter. Stringer is to blame

So the stringer strung the racquet incorrectly?!?! :eek::eek::eek:

That was the last thing I could have suspected... Since the store I got it from is a reputable club...

If you're looking to buy grommets, the cheapest place I,ve seen so far is www.mybadmintonstore.com (http://www.mybadmintonstore.com) .

As to the danger of grommets like that-- it's as the others say, if it's too far out that the string will be in direct contact with the carbon, this is bad. A grommet that is in the wrong place is pretty much good for nothing. You should ask your stringer about it-- sometimes grommets go places they shouldn't go (or worse, they get split) because of a hasty stringing job where they use their tools to gouge at it to get the string to pass faster.

I'd take it to the stringer and ask him what's up with that-- it says wonders about the care they put into their jobs.

As to the tail ends of the knots being long, it's a matter of personal preference-- I've never seen it make a functional difference since you're not supposed to be hitting birds up there anyhow. Tails too long do catch on clothing and stuff though:rolleyes:

Judging from the pics, do you think the problem is very serious? Or should I not worry too much about it as it happens alot?

Judging from the pics, do you think the problem is very serious? Or should I not worry too much about it as it happens alot?

At the risk of sounding bleeding obvious, if it bothers you, why don't you consider taking it back to the shop, telling the stringer your problem with the stringing job and asking her/him to redo it at no charge. If it were my job, I'd redo it for free because it's obviously not supposed to look like that.

Just my $0.02.

At the risk of sounding bleeding obvious, if it bothers you, why don't you consider taking it back to the shop, telling the stringer your problem with the stringing job and asking her/him to redo it at no charge. If it were my job, I'd redo it for free because it's obviously not supposed to look like that.

Just my $0.02.

I will, but for the time being I wanna know if this is a serious problem or a minor one...

Now I'm paranoid from what Jinryu said about the racquet not being strung properly :X

I will, but for the time being I wanna know if this is a serious problem or a minor one...

Now I'm paranoid from what Jinryu said about the racquet not being strung properly :X

If you've got another racquet to play with and you're worried that this one's not been strung properly, then cut the string. That'd relieve the tension on the racquet head.

In the future, if you're concerned about whether or not your (Yonex) racquet is properly strung, insist that the stringer uses the Yonex recommended pattern which is downloadable from the their UK website. Some stringers have their own signature patterns, but I think most would accomodate such reasonable requests (i.e., following manufacturers' recommendations).

HTH.

P.S.: FWIW, I personally don't think it's a serious problem. Cosmetically annoying, yes. Detrimental to your racquet's well-being, no. But, it's your decision.

I think you just need to push the grommet in. However since its already strung, you may need to push harder or wait until your string snap.

I think this shouldn't be a problem. I've seen worse cases of tube-positions (tubes "falling out" i.e.) and they worked out perfectly fine. The string is still touching only the tube, not the frame, so the string won't be damaged anymore then normal. Tubes are somewhat flexible and will form along the string path, maybe even deform, but that's o.k. I'm a stringer myself. If it were my stringjob I would say the string would hold normally and if not within two months: restring for free.

If you are not sure, talk to your stringer and see what he has to say about it. Maybe he'll restring anyway...Good luck :)

There are many different stringing techniques, some stringers tend to tie the knot to the closest hole to save string. But they really should follow the yonex guidlines where the knots should be tied at the 6th and 8th holes. Counting up from the shaft. Otherwise the knot will damage the grommet and they may charge u to get it replaced. I only trust myself and a ERSA qualified stringer or i wont trust them with my precious racket :)

I will, but for the time being I wanna know if this is a serious problem or a minor one...

Now I'm paranoid from what Jinryu said about the racquet not being strung properly :X

Seems ur stringer got an extra cross than the yonex string guide suggests. The last cross should be on B9 (bottom #9), and tie off @ B7. From ur pic, seems ur racket has las cross on B8, and tie off @ B5 instead.

Seems ur stringer got an extra cross than the yonex string guide suggests. The last cross should be on B9 (bottom #9), and tie off @ B7. From ur pic, seems ur racket has las cross on B8, and tie off @ B5 instead.

Ahhhh does that lead to a bad thing? Or just an extra cross? =\

And heh, from what you all say.. This doesn't seem like a big problem. Maybe I'm overworrying

Ahhhh does that lead to a bad thing? Or just an extra cross? =\

And heh, from what you all say.. This doesn't seem like a big problem. Maybe I'm overworrying

With the extra cross, the sweet spot might got shifted a lil bit. However, most ppl will hardly notice the difference. ;)

But they really should follow the yonex guidlines where the knots should be tied at the 6th and 8th holes.

I believe that's true for NS7k/8k and At800. However, for most other rackets, I think that's 7th and 8th. ;)

Anyone know where to buy grommets in Sydney. Had been using grommets from broken rackets. While that is not a problem, like to use new ones.

Neil: That's a knot, sry for the bad pics.. Not good with cameras..
In the first pic I couldn't tell if the string had come out of one grommet but was tied off on the other string.

Just push it in and you are good to go :)
might need to pull the side string towards the middle of the racquet to take some of the pressure off the grommet before it will go back in

In the end the string job was to blame for... I shouldn't have try a different stringer :crying::crying::crying:

I cant understand how can that stringer make such a mistake, i mean the mp99 is one of the most common rackets around! i wonder if hes done it wrong to all the other rackets he strings :/ There are many ways to check for a quality stringer, see if the top and bottom cross strings are the same tension buy just yanking it, same with the last side main strings. Check if there are any cross over strings at the top of the racket, if any exist, its baddddd

Arg you're right... I was slightly hitting the top cross and the bottom cross with the frame of my MP30 and they have a different pitch....:crying:

I'll upload some pics of the strings outside of the grommets... Maybe you guys can find other mistakes :p

By the way.. My friend told me his MP100 also has 3 knots on the bottom and one on the top.. Does that mean his strings are as screwed as mine? :cool:

By the way.. My friend told me his MP100 also has 3 knots on the bottom and one on the top.. Does that mean his strings are as screwed as mine? :cool:

1+3 = 4, means 4 knots (2 pieces) string method, nothing wrong with it. However, need to pay attentino where the knots are tied off, though.

1+3 = 4, means 4 knots (2 pieces) string method, nothing wrong with it. However, need to pay attentino where the knots are tied off, though.

I just had a feeling 3 knots at the bottom is wrong.

But judging from the situation right now, the string job is wrong =\

Say, does the extra cross and that little grommet affect the racquet's durability? You said people hardly notice the extra cross and the shifted sweetspot but would it damage the racquet in any ways?