Date: 3 July 2005
Venue: Singapore Indoor Stadium

Status: 6 star World GP (correct)

Defending Champions 2004:
MS: Kenneth Jonassen (crash out to CH in QF)
WS: Zhang Ning (again face ZM in 2005 SO final)
MD: Luluk Hadiyanto/Yulianto Alven (crash out to Boe/Mogensen in QF)
WD:Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (crash out to GL/HS in SF)
XD: Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (crash out to CQQ/ZTT in QF)


LINE UP FOR AVIVA SINGAPORE OPEN 2005:
XD:
[6]Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thungthongkam (THA)
vs [2]Zhang Jun/Gao Ling (CHN)
Head to Head:
SP/ST 1-4 ZJ/GL (Last one won by SP/ST, AE 2005 QF, 2-0)
Time: 1.00pm

WS:
[2]Zhang Ning (CHN)
vs [8]Zhou Mi (CHN)
Head to Head:
ZN 4-11 ZM (Last previous three won by ZN)
Time: approx 2.00pm following after XD
a repeat of last year Aviva's final


WD:
[3]Gao Ling/Huang Sui (CHN)
vs [7]Zhang Dan/Zhang Yawen (CHN)
Head to Head:
GL/HS 2-0 ZD/ZYW (Last previous two won by GL/HS)
Time: approx 3.00pm following after WS

MS:
[8]Taufik Hidayat (INA)
vs [7]Chen Hong (CHN)
Head to Head:
TH 6-1 CH (Last one won by CH, Japan Open 2005, 2-0)
Time: approx 4.00pm following after WD

MD:
[4]Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto (INA)
vs [6]Mathias Boe/Cartsen Mogensen (DEN)
Head to Head:
CW/SB 1-0 MB/CM (Swiss Open 2005, 2-1)
Time: approx 5.00pm following after MS


I suppose all matches will be held at a same court right?
:)Can Chen Hong make a hat-trick in Singapore? He won it in 2002 and 2003. Taufik is out to win his first trophy after OG. Chen Hong certainly won't have an easy game, Taufik sent lin dan packing in straight sets
:rolleyes:Can the 1997 world champion Chandra/Sigit help Indonesia to defend the MD title won by Luluk/Alven last year? and show they are back to top form again? Or Boe/Mathias could be another rising fearful Danish pair after JE/ML and JR/LP in very soon future?
:eek:Can Prapakamol/Thungthongkam again defeat Gao/Zhang this year after they did it in All-England, to again prove themselves they are at a same level with NR/GM, ZJ/GL etc?
:pWhat about Zhou Mi? I can't wait to see her revenge over Zhang Ning for last year's SO final straight sets defeat. Aiya, Guangxi ma :D

My opinion:

MS: Taufik 55:45
MD: Chandra/Sigit 60:40
WS: 50:50
WD: Gao/Huang 55:45
XD: 50:50

Note: Gao/Huang beat 5th seed Andersen/Schjoldager by 15-0, 15-0 in QF en route to final, but I dunno what happen???

My prediction:

MxD: Zhang/Gao
WS: Zhang Ning
WD: Gao/Huang
MS: Taufik
MD: Candra/sigit

also, if OG = olympic games, then i think this is not the first trophy that taufik is aiming to win (he won indonesia open 2004 remember :D :D )

also, if OG = olympic games, then i think this is not the first trophy that taufik is aiming to win (he won indonesia open 2004 remember :D :D )

Ooops... Sorry I missed out the Djarum Indoensia open 2004... same opponent in the final...

My Prediction
MS : TH vs CH 60:40 Taufik will likely follow IO 2004, defeat LD in SF then win from CH in final
WS: ZN vs ZM 55:45
MD: Candra/Sigit vs Boe/Mongensen 55:45 if only indos can finish in straight set
WD: Gao/Huang vs ZD/ZYW 55:45
XD: 50:50 though i prefer thai win, so chn don't win many titles;)

I guess there will be a lot of off-court relaxed(?? I hope so) players during or not during match times, like fangfang, bao, cai/fu etc, all the players who are not going to play in the final, so don't forget to snap their photos when they are cheering for teammates la:D..!!

My prediction will be;

XD: Zhang/Gao
WS: Zhang Ning
MS: Taufik
WD: Gao/Huang
MD: Candra/sigit

Taufik's the MAn manz...if u saw hom against peter gade u know wat i mean..:)
hm zhou mi's nursing an injury rite? and zhang ning has more experience but older....tough fight i guess...as for men doubles...that candra/sigit pair to win..they're world class!!! :D i dunno bout rest tho...

XD - Zhang Jun/Gao Ling
WS - Zhang Ning
WD - Gao Ling/Huang Sui
MS - Taufik Hidayat
MD - Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto


Once again, Gao Ling proves she's still the best women double player. And Chandra/Sigit prove a big mistake the Indonesian not play them together in TC last year.

Zhang Ning, Singapore Open champions of 2001, 2003, 2004..
Can she win the fourth? And a 3-consecutive champion!!!

Another match much looking forward to: XD!!
Hehe.. don't know should support who, hope it will be 3-game decider:D

i'll buck the popular consensus and predict chen hong over taufik :D :p

As much as i want chen Hong to win.. but i'm still rooting for Taufik to win this match-up. :)

I think the problem Lin Dan lost is more on himself rather than Taufik's game..
Same goes to Xie Xingfang, she was "disinterested" on the court..
That's why tomorrow we can see a close match between Chen Hong and Taufik

Well Lindan have to prove himself again this coming malaysian open. It is definately not going to be easy for him.

Well Lindan have to prove himself again this coming malaysian open. It is definately not going to be easy for him.

Would this affect his confidence?? I don't know.. Or in contrary this will be a motivation for him?

Would this affect his confidence?? I don't know.. Or in contrary this will be a motivation for him?

LD has played Taufik quite a bit lately so if he had lost at any time his confidence would obviously have been lost.

So it's probably better that he loses now and finds his mistakes so that he can fix for Malaysian Open and be ready for the World Champs.

I guess there will be a lot of off-court relaxed(?? I hope so) players during or not during match times, like fangfang, bao, cai/fu etc, all the players who are not going to play in the final, so don't forget to snap their photos when they are cheering for teammates la:D..!!

i dont think many will be here today. only xxf and baobao were here to cheer lindan during his match.

The XDF has begun and Thai is leading, good start

XD is going to rubber after ZJ/GL won the 2nd match 15-7...

Zhang/Gao took the second game 15:7. the first two games 1:1

The XDF has begun and Thai is leading, good start

Some pics from video capture:

more captures......:

more captures......:

nice! hope you keep on to the ms

nice screen capture.
the zhang jun jumpsmash image is almost an art piece:)

the rubber.. it's zj/gl all the way....

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ohhh all pictures r cool!! tell me how to??!! and other match too please <esp. men's single final kekeke>... huhu.. the thai pair lost.. well zhang/gao is still the strongest..

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there r many people wearing yellow shirt.. who they are??

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there is actually no surprise to me

it seems to me that they always win in a 2:1 and they always lose the first game

on the podium........

LS has begun.. Zhang took the 1st set

probably there is no way that you could encode and put the video online (torrent or emule) ??!:)

i would really apreciate it if you coudl do that and many others too:)


tnx


ps: nice pics though

more pics................

LS has begun.. Zhang took the 1st set

love zhang's shirt and she looks beautiful in that skirt(spell correctly?)

probably there is no way that you could encode and put the video online (torrent or emule) ??!:)

i would really apreciate it if you coudl do that and many others too:)


tnx


ps: nice pics though

i will try, the original size is too huge, close to 10gb for the xd match..

Hey sunzhi ... very nice!!!
Haha, zhang ning wong again, same as last year.... a 3rd consecutive title...

i will try, the original size is too huge, close to 10gb for the xd match..


so maybe if you put it in divx or smth... i would even go and see rvmb format:P cause lately i got no new matches to see :crying:

tnx in advance

zhang ning won in 2 sets....

Hey sunzhi!!! Well Done!!!!
I like them so much!!!
Zhang Ning looks like a girl I court before :D:D:D
Hmmm... And i like her shirt colour also>>!!!

Hey sunzhi ... very nice!!!
Haha, zhang ning wong again, same as last year.... a 3rd consecutive title...

she is my favorite female player

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tks guys.. more pics on prize presentation..

Hey, sunzhi, how is XD match?? is it close or wat?? I saw the score for 2nd and 3rd set are like a big margin

please please please please please, put these videos on torrent for the sake of God. :eek:

Hey, sunzhi, how is XD match?? is it close or wat?? I saw the score for 2nd and 3rd set are like a big margin

not so in the 2nd and 3rd set... nt really exciting i must say (in my opinion)..

hey sunzhi!! you're the man of the day!!!:cool:
Aiyaa... now gaoling/huangsui take on zhang/zhang.... seem not going to have a close fight

hey sunzhi!! you're the man of the day!!!:cool:
Aiyaa... now gaoling/huangsui take on zhang/zhang.... seem not going to have a close fight

dont underestimate the young pair :) they are getting back and lead 10-9 now

Sunzhi!! Did you tape down the WS match?? Put more photo here for the match :D:D:D especially Zhang Ning jie's one.... thanks!!!

Sunzhi!! Did you tape down the WS match?? Put more photo here for the match :D:D:D especially Zhang Ning jie's one.... thanks!!!

ok.. shd do that later.. too busy shuttling btw the game and posting here now :)

haha 12-9 to the two zhangs.. wont be surprised to see them taking the game

dont underestimate the young pair :) they are getting back and lead 10-9 now

they are really good !

yeah 13-10
where is sunzhi???
went to upload photos already??
can't wait to see them

Excellent game by the thai pair; though they lost eventually. They have showed potential to be the next top mixed doubles pair :)

Excellent game by the thai pair; though they lost eventually. They have showed potential to be the next top mixed doubles pair :)

hi bmt girl, just back from SIS??

yesss... the zhangs took the 1st game in an exciting thriller.. 15-13...

zip collar shirt!! Look like some leather although they are cotton ones.haha... i suppose, because cotton is good when u sweat a lot right?

Anyway, can't wait to watch the next match, taufik vs chen hong!!

wow.. very good attacking game from the zhangs.. i think good chance for them to win their first major title.. leading 9-5 now...

wow.. very good attacking game from the zhangs.. i think good chance for them to win their first major title.. leading 9-5 now...

hey, 10-9, Zhangs leading... first server :D

ending soon........... 14-10

hey!! closing to Singapore Open title, 14-10, still first server :crying:
Yeah!!! The match ends, Zhangs 15-13, 15-10 to beat Gao Ling/Huang Sui

amazing... the zhangs won in 2 games...

prize presentation....

and now for the big match...

prize presentation....

and now for the big match...

yeah can't wait

hello,

i'm watchin the taufik hidayat VS chen hong. now. well. actually i'm waiting for it to start. :)

Seem like some tears rolling in Yawen's eyes

hello,

i'm watchin the taufik hidayat VS chen hong. now. well. actually i'm waiting for it to start. :)

you lucky one! my telebroadcast stopped here and switch to vollayball :mad:

here's the big one.... time to concentrate :D

sooo many unforced errors from CH...

Hey Sunzhi, I think these are the best photos from BCF!!!! haha thanks to tv coverage, you show us they walk out from player's room and their en route to final record, shake hands with umpires... thanks

omg.. 5-12 led by taufik....:eek:
they are wearing the same shirts??? :D

bad line call whn taufik was serving at 12-9, chen's clearly in shot was ruled out... taufik took the 1st game 15-9...

here's the big one.... time to concentrate :D

thank you for your pictures !!!

taufik!!

go go taufik go go
:D :D :D :D :D

I hope Chen Hong will win the second game, then we have the third game to watch :D.......

I hope Chen Hong will win the second game, then we have the third game to watch :D.......

hope someone record this:crying: i still can't see it on tv

yeeeeehhh go taufik!! go chen hong!! go taufik!! <unconsistent>

hope someone record this:crying: i still can't see it on tv

check out this online scoring
http://www.horizon-sport.com/live/05singopen/frame.php?mcourt=1

taufik leading 7-3 now

oh yeah 8-3 now

taufik leading 7-3 now

I'm pretty worried for Chen Hong, trailing 3-9 now, the serve is still with Taufik.... Hopefully the match won't end so soon

one more point for taufik 9-3

it's taufik all the way.... too many errors frm chen while taufik is on fire..

1 more unforced error giving taufik 12-3 lead

it's taufik all the way.... too many errors frm chen while taufik is on fire..
Yeah, so Chen Hong loses to himself???
it's 13-3 for Taufik, 2 more points to the Singapore Open champion!!!!

what's got into chen.. 1 more error...

just checked the head-to-head record from the worldbadminton.net and notised that for the last 7 matches taufik won 6.

taufik 6-1 chen hong

one more point for taufik 9-3

this is certainly not a close game

match point for taufik

Either Taufik go on to win the title or I(sorry, we?) will see one of the most amazing comeback in badminton history from Chen Hong

OOPSSSSS!!!!

Taufik Hidayat is Aviva Singapore Open 2005 Champion!!

15-3 WHAAAA.. taufik wins!!! yes! yes! yes! online score n sunzhi screen captures ROCKSSS!!

taufik took the game with 15-3

what a big gap

15-3 online score n sunzhi screen captures ROCKSSS!!

LoL!!! Cute chika :D

OOPSSSSS!!!!

Taufik Hidayat is Aviva Singapore Open 2005 Champion!!

soooo happy for him !

no more pictures in coming ?

congrats taufik for the win... i think half the points in the 2nd game are lost by chen instead of won by taufik.. it's painful to watch, imho.. not to take the credit from taufik who's playing really well and in control thru out the match.. kudos...

OOPSSSSS!!!!

Taufik Hidayat is Aviva Singapore Open 2005 Champion!!

Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
finally he manages to show his skills, it looks like nothing can stop him now.
I am so thrilled.
I personally think the real ranking right for today is:

1. Taufik
2. Peter Gade
3. Lin Dan

I know, of course, that it will not come to this ranking in reality ...

here's the pics.....

congrats taufik for the win... i think half the points in the 2nd game are lost by chen instead of won by taufik.. it's painful to watch, imho.. not to take the credit from taufik who's playing really well and in control thru out the match.. kudos...
What happen to Chen Hong?? Was he nervous or something??
It's like Taufik is in his own class of badminton

here's the pics.....

Sunzhi, I like the second, zooming effect :D

here's the pics.....

great pics thank you !

just the game is too short :)

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Let's hope the closing match for Aviva singapore 2005, the MD, wouldn't be an one-sided game...

Taufik found the winning formula to Chinese Players in Singapore Open.
Combination of good nullifying the oppenent's brute smashes, his precise net play, drive, drop shots and sudden smash caused yesterday Lindan and today Chen Hong.

In fact, his skill is not a new, as most of us know his ability. However he did in this competition more consistently and patiently. Hope he keep this form in future.


What happen to Chen Hong?? Was he nervous or something??
It's like Taufik is in his own class of badminton

my favourite indonesian pair(even though i still prefer Candra Wijaya to team up with Tony Gunawan) will be next in action.

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Unexpectedly, woman double game despite of China vs China, gave very exciting, particurlary underdog, Zhang /Zhang nonstop fighting sprit. The score might not reflect the true moment. But there were serveral very very long ralley to garner a point.

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Hey, nice captures !!! chen Hong and taufik face to face and the net in between:cool:

Will Boe/Mogensen be the second JR/Paaske, a nobody in top class badminton players storm into final and went to beat Chandra/Sigit to win title, JR/LP did it in the WC2003 final

amazing speed there in the MD, candra broke his strings and changed his racket while the rally is still ongoing...

and the special lady in the last pic...

on the podium.....

Will Boe/Mogensen be the second JR/Paaske, a nobody in top class badminton players storm into final and went to beat Chandra/Sigit to win title, JR/LP did it in the WC2003 final

possible.. they are very aggressive and pretty good...

amazing speed there in the MD, candra broke his strings and changed his racket while the rally is still ongoing...

and the special lady in the last pic...
Rally is still on going?? Wow, then Chandra must have tremendous speed also to change his racquet... he already put the racquet ready there to expect some situation like this ? :D

Who is that special lady anyway

possible.. they are very aggressive and pretty good...
Yeah , pretty good, 12-6 now led by Boe/Mogensen... Danish MD is awesome!

on the podium.....

still want to thank you again! nice pictures:D

still want to thank you again! nice pictures:D
Anyone has idea about the guy in dark blue shirt in front of Taufik?? from on the podium photos....

YEss.... Boe/Mogensen won the first game!!!

woah.. 1st game to the Danes... good attacking game, and pretty impressive in the defence as well...

still want to thank you again! nice pictures:D

with pleasure... on the MD:

i saw Tony G. did the same thing also at last year's US Open edition...it's all about timing and position on court(if he was far away from the racket, there is no way one would travel all the way across and get back in time..

regarding the lady, i do not know. However she is Indonesian as i saw her and a couple of her friends on the QF day talked with Taufik...she could be Deswita Maharani??(Taufik's gf), but can't confirm, could be just another friend...

Rally is still on going?? Wow, then Chandra must have tremendous speed also to change his racquet... he already put the racquet ready there to expect some situation like this ? :D

Who is that special lady anyway

saw Boe and Mogensen played in last year's US Open..they lost to Tony G. and Howard Bach in straight sets in the Final...The key to beating them is to play net, short drops and small/short shuttles, don't give them high ones for them to smash down as they are very tall...If you can control the net and give them low/short shuttles and force them to retrieve and lift those, then they will have a harder time...

could be Candra's/Sigit's first time meeting and playing against them??...

woah.. 1st game to the Danes... good attacking game, and pretty impressive in the defence as well...

heh

i thought i hear sometime ago that taufik hidayat is dating pi hongyan????

regarding the lady, i do not know. However she is Indonesian as i saw her and a couple of her friends on the QF day talked with Taufik...she could be Deswita Maharani??(Taufik's gf), but can't confirm, could be just another friend...

I just read an Indonesian website dated 2002 Deswita said that she will end her single status soon to engage with Taufik..!! Any indonesian fellows here can tell me about this??

yeah candra and sigit won the second game

into the rubber... candra/sigit won the 2nd set 15-8...

could be Candra's/Sigit's first time meeting and playing against them??...
They met once in Swiss Open 2005, the Indonesian won by 2-1

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Hey, this is an exciting match!!!! In the rubber!!
Oopsss... Chandra/Sigit led by7-2... hope the dane can close up before they change court...

lots of protest from the danes, last few pics, boe rubbing his eyes in protest of a line call which didnt go down well with the crowds...

lots of protest from the danes, last few pics, boe rubbing his eyes in protest of a line call which didnt go down well with the crowds...
What do you mean Boe rubbing his eyes??!!

What do you mean Boe rubbing his eyes??!!

he was telling the line judge to rub his eyes :)

10-5 led by indonesian!!!!
Go Boe Go Mogensen!!!

go candra!!!!!!
go candra!!!!!!
go candra!!!!!!
:D

with pleasure... on the MD:

hehe, you are certainly the star of today here;)

2 more points!!! googogogogogogogogogoogogogogogo :D

amazing recovery by the indos at 10-5... simply superb...

Sunzhi, I've said this just now, but I must say it again,
you're man of the day!!!!!

match point for candra and sigit now

go sunzhi! go sunzhi! go sunzhi!

thanks for the great pix! I'm here in the philippines, having to content myself with live scores, but your nice picture uploads make for a much better experience :)

yeh my favourite pair won the game.

sunzhi, did u record the games? can u pls upload them to www.megaupload.com (http://www.megaupload.com) pls. i can't wait to see. pleasssssssssssseeeeeeee.

yesssshhhhhh... its over... candra/sigit back on track... the last few points was exciting but the danes made lots of mistake.. nerves??

anyway, that's it... tks guys...

cheers....

sunzhi, did u record the games? can u pls upload them to www.megaupload.com (http://www.megaupload.com) pls. i can't wait to see. pleasssssssssssseeeeeeee.


its recorded in mpeg2 hence the size is huge.. will try to encode it 1st before uploading, most probably thru bit torrent...

I must say those picture uploads are absolutely wonderful! Cheers mate! Big two thumbs up! :)

What was the final score?

Joe P.

gotta go now.. late for appointment... cheers...

its recorded in mpeg2 hence the size is huge.. will try to encode it 1st before uploading, most probably thru bit torrent...

So you've got all the games? including the ones from quarter finals onwards? That would be awesome! Really want to see all of Taufik's games from QF to today's final.

Anyway, thanks again mate!

Joe P.

I must say those picture uploads are absolutely wonderful! Cheers mate! Big two thumbs up! :)

What was the final score?

Joe P.

8-15 , 15-8, 15-7 in favor of the indonesians :)

whoooooooooooaaa candra/sigit win!!! yayyyy!!!! im very happy today!! thanks a million sunzhi for the pics!! hope u can do it again for other tourney..;) ;)

I didn't watch all the matches but I recall Chen Hong wearing this shirt pattern but Taufik was wearing other designs... guess they decided to colour-coordinate for the finals :)

Official results:
MS Champion: Taufik Hidayat (INA)
WS Champion: Zhang Ning (CHN)
MD Champions: Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto (INA)
WD Champions: Zhang Yawen/Zhang Dan (CHN)
XD Champions: Zhang Jun/Gao Ling (CHN)

China won 3 champions and Indonesia won 2... :D Zhang is the most powerful player in China, out of 5 chinese players who got champions, they are all Zhangs except Gao Ling:)

Official results:
MS Champion: Taufik Hidayat (INA)
WS Champion: Zhang Ning (CHN)
MD Champions: Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto (INA)
WD Champions: Zhang Yawen/Zhang Dan (CHN)
XD Champions: Zhang Jun/Gao Ling (CHN)

China won 3 champions and Indonesia won 2... :D Zhang is the most powerful player in China, out of 5 chinese players who got champions, they are all Zhangs except Gao Ling:)

haha i noticed that too ,interesting:D

initially i thought gao/huang would just walk away winners. but i was surprised that zhang yawen had so much aggression and determination in her! she really deserved to win and it was a very entertaining match with lots of "oooh"s and "aaaah"s.

im so sad boe and morgensen lost...:( but im also a candra sigit fan...:)

im so sad boe and morgensen lost...:( but im also a candra sigit fan...:)
i'm happy to see there is another young danish pair to come...!!!:cool:

how old are they???:confused:

how old are they???:confused:
Mathias Boe is 25 and Cartsen Mogensen is 22 :)

ok thanks...haha...

Congrats to Taufik for being a rare one to beat 2 top chinese players to win the tournament. Everybody, please knee down and bow to Mr Taufik Hidayat. Everyone should learn his foot work and goto shuttle attitude. What a player! Perfect game.
Now close the thread and move over to Malaysian Open!
rgds:D

Congrats to Taufik for being a rare one to beat 2 top chinese players to win the tournament. Everybody, please knee down and bow to Mr Taufik Hidayat. Everyone should learn his foot work and goto shuttle attitude. What a player! Perfect game.
Now close the thread and move over to Malaysian Open!
rgds:D

hey do you know what taufik said in the interview after the match? i just saw it on the news just now.

he said something like "i love the fans here...and i can assure you i'm coming back here next yr. xxx(couldnt here properly) will be here, and my gf will be here too." and i cant hear what else he said.

i know everyone knows he is one of the most well respected doubles players in modern badminton.and has feature in many exciting matches.however i didnt expect candra to pull all the stops to make the finals crowd pleasing.he actually change his racket in the middle of the match right after he had pushed a shot towards the denmark opponent.that is the weirdst thing i have ever seen.i dont think anyone has seen a player run out of court to change his racket during the middle of the match.youve all gotta seee that scene again when you download it.he was like gone and back in a flash.

i know everyone knows he is one of the most well respected doubles players in modern badminton.and has feature in many exciting matches.however i didnt expect candra to pull all the stops to make the finals crowd pleasing.he actually change his racket in the middle of the match right after he had pushed a shot towards the denmark opponent.that is the weirdst thing i have ever seen.i dont think anyone has seen a player run out of court to change his racket during the middle of the match.youve all gotta seee that scene again when you download it.he was like gone and back in a flash.

last november's open here had the same thing happening. i cant remember if it was the same pair or eriksen. but that person ended up getting reprimanded by the umpire. it is considered a foul. i was suprised the umpire was quite lenient to him today.

but seriously i was rather shocked to see him scurrying off like a mouse to his bag and was wondering what he was up to.

I m so happy Taufik finally win......
Go Taufik...

I m so happy Taufik finally win......
Go Taufik...
He won it so easily.....

yeah !!! taufik and candra/sigit win , it's very good to see taufik finally can be a champion again
But I am sad because gao/huang lose to the chinese younger pair

wow..never know this forum exists till today...so i will say hi first :)
good to know that taufik and candra/sigit won in today's final (yes, i am an indon, but based overseas :P). used to dislike taufik (a talented but spoilt brat with huge ego), but i observed that he has finally matured into a fine player especially after his olympic win last year. unbelievable matches against peter gade and lin dan, and he fully deserved his victory! hopefully he can maintain his form for the WC in august. he can afford to drop the malaysian open :)

candra/sigit....they're old...and i actually root for alven/luluk nowadays...but seem that the youngsters have declined in form recently. candra/sigit is slower too...and that will be dangerous against the youngsters like cai/fu and jung/lee (whom i rate very very highly...and they are already no 7 after less than 1 year). on skills and experience, candra/sigit probably is top of the list, together with paaske/rasmussen and eriksen/larsen, but, stamina and speed are no longer their weapons. anyway, good to see them collecting their second title of the year and third title after being re-paired late last year.

other upcoming young double players that i fancy: kidho/setiawan (but they always ended up losing to paaske/rasmussen in almost every tourney!) and gunawan/riyadi (currently WR40, but they managed to sneak into the second round in Singapore Open). i believe they will be up there in the top 10 come one year time. jung/lee is also another upcoming top double players...certainly the best from korea and a handy replacement for the 2 legendary pairs of ha/kim and lee/lee.

Taufik is on top of his game at the moment. Looking foward to the Msian Open.

yeah !!! taufik and candra/sigit win , it's very good to see taufik finally can be a champion again
But I am sad because gao/huang lose to the chinese younger pair

it could be "fixed" u know...since the younger pair never won any majors...so, its kinda title rotation for those top 4 chinese pairs.

Does anybody remember who are the semifinalists in WC 2003?? Especially the one defeated by Xia? was he lin dan?

it could be "fixed" u know...since the younger pair never won any majors...so, its kinda title rotation for those top 4 chinese pairs.
Hmmm.. not sure for this time.. but there are really some kind of system exists in Chinese team really?
I've forgotten in which competition, but I remember Lin Dan said this before, "I train so hard, but still have to follow team's order" after losing to a teammate.. because the teammate holds a better record and is more likely to win against the opponent in final..

I hope I am wrong:)

Does anybody remember who are the semifinalists in WC 2003?? Especially the one defeated by Xia? was he lin dan?

the other semi-finalist was wong choon han and shon sheung mo

it was bao chunlai who lost to xia. bcl himself defeated taufik and roslin back-to-back in the round of 1/16 and quarter-final

Hmmm.. not sure for this time.. but there are really some kind of system exists in Chinese team really?

i think there was a debate...there were some tourneys where one pair actually withdrawed from the final...and the title went to the other pair of course (esp for women's doubles). the chinese team also received some kinda warning i think.

i think there was a debate...there were some tourneys where one pair actually withdrawed from the final...and the title went to the other pair of course (esp for women's doubles). the chinese team also received some kinda warning i think.
yeah, is there any proof for this in badminton already?? I don't know....
but this occurs in the chinese table tennis team (in a chinese affair SF, the one who is more likely to win the final if the other finalist is not chinese, should win in SF, of course not everytime)

Anyway, to sunzhi, how did you put these captures from TV(channel 5) to computer?? or are you using computer to watch it??

I'm so happy Taufik and Candra/Sigit won. Taufik beat two Chinese players and beat his rival Lin Dan in a convincing 2 straight sets. Does anyone have video footage of Candra/Sigit vs. Boe/Mogensen? According to the pictures, the game looked like a great match.

Go Indonesia!!

regarding the lady, i do not know. However she is Indonesian as i saw her and a couple of her friends on the QF day talked with Taufik...she could be Deswita Maharani??(Taufik's gf), but can't confirm, could be just another friend...

She and her friend were sitting behind me at the guest section during the Taufik-Lindan match and were screaming for Taufik throughout the match... "tahan tahan..." (which means 'hang on') :D

Anyway, to sunzhi, how did you put these captures from TV(channel 5) to computer?? or are you using computer to watch it??


was watching it on tv (linked to my pc and hs a tv card installed). used a cordless keyboard to do the capture...

the talk about match fixing isn't anything new, and i am sure it's there all the time. but just aint right to 'accuse' a team of doing so if the match didn't end as it should have been. in this case, the way i look at it, the two zhangs won fair and square. the match was exciting and the zhangs apart from having more fire, also hd more desire to win. if it was 'fixed' so the young pair who has not won anything big, won, thn i believe it should have been given to wei yili/zhao tingting instead.

anyway, let's see how they (the two zhangs) fare in the coming m'sia open. i think they are in the same quarter with the top korean pair....

just my 2 cts..

more captures on the final secs of the MD....

So you've got all the games? including the ones from quarter finals onwards? That would be awesome! Really want to see all of Taufik's games from QF to today's final.

Anyway, thanks again mate!

Joe P.

hi... not all, only the finals...

She and her friend were sitting behind me at the guest section during the Taufik-Lindan match and were screaming for Taufik throughout the match... "tahan tahan..." (which means 'hang on') :D

so she's really the lady in white?

She captured the attention of a photographer:
http://www.pbase.com/oeyvind/image/45636073
http://www.pbase.com/oeyvind/image/45636072

She captured the attention of a photographer:
http://www.pbase.com/oeyvind/image/45636073
http://www.pbase.com/oeyvind/image/45636072

wow. 200/1.8 that's a sharp lens.

the talk about match fixing isn't anything new, and i am sure it's there all the time. but just aint right to 'accuse' a team of doing so if the match didn't end as it should have been. in this case, the way i look at it, the two zhangs won fair and square. the match was exciting and the zhangs apart from having more fire, also hd more desire to win. if it was 'fixed' so the young pair who has not won anything big, won, thn i believe it should have been given to wei yili/zhao tingting instead.

anyway, let's see how they (the two zhangs) fare in the coming m'sia open. i think they are in the same quarter with the top korean pair....

just my 2 cts..

There have been many allegations of match fixing which I find unfounded, including this one. Did those who made the allegations even watch the match? Both pairs fought tooth-and-nail. It was obvious that the Zhang pair piled the pressure Huang Sui and most often, she could not handle it. Meanwhile, both the Zhangs were impressive, especially the petite Zhang Yawen whose partnership with Xie Zhongbo also caused the upset of Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung. The Zhangs also easily defeated Wei/Zhao in the quarterfinals.

Based on that performance, it spells gloom for Wei/Zhao who may be relegated to number 4 or even 5 when Du/Yu makes their move.

Based on that performance, it spells gloom for Wei/Zhao who may be relegated to number 4 or even 5 when Du/Yu makes their move.

mmm time for wei to get into XD as well then:)

There have been many allegations of match fixing which I find unfounded, including this one. Did those who made the allegations even watch the match? Both pairs fought tooth-and-nail. It was obvious that the Zhang pair piled the pressure Huang Sui and most often, she could not handle it. Meanwhile, both the Zhangs were impressive, especially the petite Zhang Yawen whose partnership with Xie Zhongbo also caused the upset of Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung. The Zhangs also easily defeated Wei/Zhao in the quarterfinals.

Based on that performance, it spells gloom for Wei/Zhao who may be relegated to number 4 or even 5 when Du/Yu makes their move.

yeah i agree, im surprised that there is actually talk of match fixing. it was a rather thrilling match in my opinion.

There have been many allegations of match fixing which I find unfounded, including this one. Did those who made the allegations even watch the match? Both pairs fought tooth-and-nail. It was obvious that the Zhang pair piled the pressure Huang Sui and most often, she could not handle it. Meanwhile, both the Zhangs were impressive, especially the petite Zhang Yawen whose partnership with Xie Zhongbo also caused the upset of Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung. The Zhangs also easily defeated Wei/Zhao in the quarterfinals.

Based on that performance, it spells gloom for Wei/Zhao who may be relegated to number 4 or even 5 when Du/Yu makes their move.

Ok ok...I admit that I am a little bit quick to accuse the Chinese Team of match fixing. I apologize for that :) Of course, I know they are a very good upcoming pair and it's time for them to win a major title sooner or later. They are bound to be up there from the moment they were promoted from the juniors. Sigh...when you have 4-5 Chinese pairs in the top 10, every tournament is an almost foregone conclusion. Lee/Lee is still not stable and they even lost to the scratch pairing of Novita/Polli...unbelievable...

yeah i agree, im surprised that there is actually talk of match fixing. it was a rather thrilling match in my opinion.
Because the match is thrilling and both pairs played seriously, it didn't mean that the match is not fixed, i mean they could plan it before the match and make the match thrilling so that ppl didn't think that the match was fixed.
This is just my opinion of course and I can't prove it, but I have read the article that say IBF must act to stop the chinese's team-order but I forget where I read it.
I hate match fixing :mad: :mad:

Because the match is thrilling and both pairs played seriously, it didn't mean that the match is not fixed, i mean they could plan it before the match and make the match thrilling so that ppl didn't think that the match was fixed.
This is just my opinion of course and I can't prove it, but I have read the article that say IBF must act to stop the chinese's team-order but I forget where I read it.
I hate match fixing :mad: :mad:

hmm you've got a point. i guess this will remain a controversy forever.

hmm you've got a point. i guess this will remain a controversy forever.
Is there any written rules or act in IBF saying that "team's order" or "match fixing" is prohibited....

Because the match is thrilling and both pairs played seriously, it didn't mean that the match is not fixed, i mean they could plan it before the match and make the match thrilling so that ppl didn't think that the match was fixed.
This is just my opinion of course and I can't prove it, but I have read the article that say IBF must act to stop the chinese's team-order but I forget where I read it.
I hate match fixing :mad: :mad:

you are not alone, i hate match fixing too.

if one has the mindset that a match is fixed no matter how thrilling and exciting it was solely because it didn't end per strength or ranking order, one could never enjoy the game.

i would suggest you to watch the alleged match. if you have already done so, well, i guess there's nothing to add that cd change your mind ;)

peace....

Regarding the WD, since Gao had played 62 minutes of badminton over 3 sets against the Thais in the XD a couple of hours before playing in the WD, isn't it reasonable to expect that she would be a bit tired going into the WD, hence a loss is not unexpected?

Regarding the WD, since Gao had played 62 minutes of badminton over 3 sets against the Thais in the XD a couple of hours before playing in the WD, isn't it reasonable to expect that she would be a bit tired going into the WD, hence a loss is not unexpected?


yup.. was a little surprise at the order of play. shdnt the organizer schedule it in such a way that a player who is playing in 2 matches be given sufficient time to recover? :confused: WD was played right after WS which is normally, not a lengthy game..

Both pairs fought tooth-and-nail. It was obvious that the Zhang pair piled the pressure Huang Sui and most often, she could not handle it.


off topic but Huang Sui seems to have gained a lot of weight since last year :)

its recorded in mpeg2 hence the size is huge.. will try to encode it 1st before uploading, most probably thru bit torrent...

Hi sunzhi,

can we still expect these mpegs ? :)

TIA
Yuval

I just read an Indonesian website dated 2002 Deswita said that she will end her single status soon to engage with Taufik..!! Any indonesian fellows here can tell me about this??


2002? :confused: man that s old. deswita and taufik is no longer together, thats wat the local newspaper wrote. they broke up a few months ago. Taufik is with someone else now. Its Ami Gumelar I guess or Amy?? daughter of Agum Gumelar. The lady in white might be her,the nose shows some similarity to her father s. deswita is the opposite nose characteristic, she has this uncommonly big nose for an indon(nostrils included)but still ok looking. the lady in white is definitely not deswita.

2002? :confused: man that s old. deswita and taufik is no longer together, thats wat the local newspaper wrote. they broke up a few months ago. Taufik is with someone else now. Its Ami Gumelar I guess or Amy?? daughter of Agum Gumelar. The lady in white might be her,the nose shows some similarity to her father s. deswita is the opposite nose characteristic, she has this uncommonly big nose for an indon(nostrils included)but still ok looking. the lady in white is definitely not deswita.

juicy gossip by some infotainment & local media that Taufik broke up with Deswita and back to ex. girl friend, Wynne Prakusya (Tennis player) after they were showed walk together.
The media have correct it since Taufik talked clearly about his family & girl friend in Sng Open's press conference.

so now taufik's with Ami Gumelar? who is she? and are they engaged?

so now taufik's with Ami Gumelar? who is she? and are they engaged?

Indonesians would probably know who Ami's father is. Her father, Agum Gumelar is a Lieutenant-General of TNI in Indonesia.. And her mom is the Head of Konggres Wanita Indonesia (Kowani).. Yes, Taufik and Ami are engaged..
God, just last year Deswita said that they are going to get married soon after Athens 2004....... Guess they are just not meant to be together..

Actually Ami's mother, Linda Agum Gumelar, was in Singapore for the Aviva Open.. While a lot of people left after the Men's Doubles Medal Ceremony, many people stayed back.. Those who stayed back would probably see most of the Indonesian players shaking hands very politely with an old lady.. She is Linda Agum Gumelar. Ami's parents are big shots in Indonesia.

wow.. taufik's heart really changes very fast man.. almost the same as the speed of light?

it's a smart move :)

it's a smart move :)
what is a smart move ?

Taufik is mature in his game at the moment. Only the girls are giving him a hard time.

Taufik is mature in his game at the moment. Only the girls are giving him a hard time.
I still can't understand:confused:

I still can't understand:confused:
Do you all mean that Taufik is having a hard time to deal with the girls and relationship??

Do you all mean that Taufik is having a hard time to deal with the girls and relationship??

You can say that.

2002? :confused: man that s old. deswita and taufik is no longer together, thats wat the local newspaper wrote. they broke up a few months ago. Taufik is with someone else now. Its Ami Gumelar I guess or Amy?? daughter of Agum Gumelar. The lady in white might be her,the nose shows some similarity to her father s. deswita is the opposite nose characteristic, she has this uncommonly big nose for an indon(nostrils included)but still ok looking. the lady in white is definitely not deswita.
yeah, that's why... They already mention about engagement in 2002 but then after that the engage thingy was delayed, is it?? so until this year they broke up...

Indonesians would probably know who Ami's father is. Her father, Agum Gumelar is a Lieutenant-General of TNI in Indonesia.. And her mom is the Head of Konggres Wanita Indonesia (Kowani).. Yes, Taufik and Ami are engaged..
God, just last year Deswita said that they are going to get married soon after Athens 2004....... Guess they are just not meant to be together..


Now this is confusing. I've just read in "jawa post" today that Ami Gumelar was there at the olimpic to support Taufik. Refering to that fact(if its a fact alright), there's no way that Deswita would say such a thing as marriage unless they have already made a pre breaking up agreement to keep it secret which i think is bridging up all this fact. For selebrities like them, its not an easy thing to keep something like that a secret for almost a three quarter year now. Media in indonesia is aggresive and brutal if its something to do with people breaking up or having an affair. Sometimes they are ahead of the person him/herself in realizing that something is happening. Its like"am i having an affair? oh..now isee, i am having an affair".
It makes same sense back to me now, for a long time Taufik and Deswita kept saying that everything is going alright despite the fact that they were never seen together in public.

but there is another incoherent fact. If it was Linda Agum Gumelar in singapore to support Taufik, then why would the same newspaper said that Agum Gumelar don't seem to approve to this relationship? in fact, when asked about it, Agum suddenly lost his friendliness to the press and walked away to his office while saying "that's their own bussiness". offcourse, Taufik is known as a playboy here.

Ami is Taufik's new girlfriend. Their wedding will be scheduled sometimes in February 2006.

oh please, ive been switching through channels, and found two channels which discuss taufik hidayat's love life,(oh please,,,,), he looks helpless with all the cameras and people following him, he looks like hes at some parking area or sumthin
also the girl in the pics posted is NOT ami, (ami and taufik both interviewed), ami looks like female version of agum,lil bit like deswita, but i think wita is prettier, but he looks pretty relaxed, and even laughed a little when the reporters joked about the possibility of it being an arranged marriage, lol:D
he admit tho that he is going out with ami
also agum said he had no problem with it

i cant believe im watching those shows!:eek: :crying:

ami looks like female version of agum,lil bit like deswita, but i think wita is prettier, but he looks pretty relaxed, and even laughed a little when the reporters joked about the possibility of it being an arranged marriage, lol

i can never think of the female version of Agum. that sounds horrible. why don't u just use a simple and humble words like "not so beautiful"or"not so hot".

i can never think of the female version of Agum. that sounds horrible. why don't u just use a simple and humble words like "not so beautiful"or"not so hot".
what? oh
maybe becos she IS hot?
i mean, yes, she resembles agum, becos she has smallish eyes and full lips, just like him, but i didnt say i didnt think she was pretty
lol:D
anyway, if i really thought that she was unpretty, surely i wouldnt say that i thought she looked like deswita right?