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KourKK
07-07-2005, 10:32 AM
MS
Lin Dan v Chen Hong
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin
MD
(currently waiting for the website to show results)
XD
Nathan/Gail v Thomas/Kamilla
Chen/Zhao v Sudket/Saralee
Lee/Lee v Nova/Lilyana
Robert/Natalie v Songpol/Kulchala
WS
LiLi v Yu Hirayama
Lu Lan v Zhu Lin
Xu Huaiwen v Yao Jie
Kaori Moi v Zhang Ning
WD
Yang/Zhang v Wong/Chin
Gail/Donna v Zhang/Zhang
Saralee/Sathinee v Gao/Huang
Ella/Joanne v Wei/Zhao
Qidong
07-07-2005, 10:37 AM
MS
Lin Dan v Chen Hong
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin
Sound like a preview of the world championship. The world's best 7 MS players are in the quarter final. :)
KourKK
07-07-2005, 10:41 AM
I reckon that Chen Jin's Inclusion is a major surprise, upsetting Kenneth Jonnasen like that. He is showing alot of promise with his young age. I dont believe that any other country has someone like him, malaysia's Lim Kenn is still testing out the waters i reckon.. although hopefully he can take over from LCW
Quasimodo
07-07-2005, 10:41 AM
Interesting results on the women's side. 2 English pairs in doubles and and a visible dent in the Chinese armour in the singles event. It almost seems like they're having a little problem coming up with the next generation. Xie, though ranked #1, isn't as dominant as Gong Ruina, Zhou Mi, Dai Yun, et al. were and the juniors are just starting to break into the senior tour.
unregistered
07-07-2005, 10:49 AM
For those who don't know, chen jin was a world junior champion.
KourKK
07-07-2005, 10:50 AM
But then again, China's Dominance in MS is amazing, out of 8, 4 are chinese, Lin Dan/Chen Hong/Chen Jin/Bao ChunLai, and the others are (2) Malaysian (Hafiz/Lee Chong Wei), (1) Danish (Peter Gade), (1) Indonesian (Taufik)
anyone willing to hazard a prediction for the semi finals?
im going with
Lin Dan v Hafiz (hopefully :p )
Bao ChunLai v LCW (lets hope home support tips it in his favour)
Qidong
07-07-2005, 10:58 AM
anyone willing to hazard a prediction for the semi finals?
Quarterfinal:
Lin Dan v Chen Hong - Lin Dan
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim - Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei - Taufik
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin - Bao Chun lai
Semifinal:
Lin Dan vs Hafiz Hashim - Hafiz Hashim
Tafuik vs Bao Chun Lai - Bao Chun Lai
Final: (features 2 of the tallest MS players)
Hafiz vs Bao - Bao
weeyet
07-07-2005, 11:01 AM
it's always exciting to have malaysia player in malaysia open final :D
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:04 AM
it's always exciting to have malaysia player in malaysia open final :D
lets just hope that is the same for the World Championships final, or even better, all malaysian Final :D :D
weeyet
07-07-2005, 11:06 AM
lets just hope that is the same for the World Championships final, or even better, all malaysian Final :D :D
Anyway, hope Chong Wei can do well in Malaysian Open because his world ranking had dropped to 8th, while Hafiz still maintain at 6th
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:07 AM
Anyway, hope Chong Wei can do well in Malaysian Open because his world ranking had dropped to 8th, while Hafiz still maintain at 6th
really? what would a win (finals) do to his ranking? and what would losing here to taufik mean?
badMania
07-07-2005, 11:09 AM
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto vs Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Thomas Laybourn/Peter Steffensen
Yeo Yeon Seong/Jeon Jun Bum vs Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto
Sang Yang/Xie Zhongbo vs Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock
Predicted winners in bold
badMania
07-07-2005, 11:10 AM
really? what would a win (finals) do to his ranking? and what would losing here to taufik mean?
It will just affect the seedings for the WC. Taufik should be seeded at worst 5th, depending on his performance in KL. Chong Wei will be below him (either 6th or 7th seed).
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:11 AM
seems that Wong Choon Han and Chew Choon Eng put up a valiant fight.. 17/15 15-10
weeyet
07-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto vs Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Thomas Laybourn/Peter Steffensen
Yeo Yeon Seong/Jeon Jun Bum vs Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto
Sang Yang/Xie Zhongbo vs Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock
Predicted winners in bold
YOu mean Predicted?? oh my god... i thought Wong/Chew lost
weeyet
07-07-2005, 11:12 AM
really? what would a win (finals) do to his ranking? and what would losing here to taufik mean?
Get better ranking to avoid top 4 seeds before semifinal
sunzhi
07-07-2005, 11:18 AM
YOu mean Predicted?? oh my god... i thought Wong/Chew lost
yeah, wong/chew lost to the koreans
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:21 AM
how many points would one get if one won the world championships ? :rolleyes:
yowkee
07-07-2005, 11:25 AM
yeah, wong/chew lost to the koreans
I just came back from Cheras Badminton Stadium, what a night...and lots of exciting games :)
To me Wong Choon Hann looks promising in MD (especially when he smash), his 1st game with Peter was coming back from 0-9 to 13-13, that's a pretty fast game, entertaining....too bad he's just making too many mistakes at 2nd game. Peter looks very excited to win over Wong.
badMania
07-07-2005, 11:33 AM
YOu mean Predicted?? oh my god... i thought Wong/Chew lost
These are the predicted winners for the quarter-finals! Wong/Chew lost to the Koreans and I predict that Candra/Sigit will beat the Koreans tomorrow.
badMania
07-07-2005, 11:36 AM
how many points would one get if one won the world championships ? :rolleyes:
The winner in a 7* tournament such as WC or Olympic will get 6000 WR points.
The winner in a 6* tournament such as China or Indonesian Open will get 5400 WR points.
The winner in a 5* tournament such as Singapore or Japan Open will get 4800 WR points.
The winner in a 4* tournament such as All England or Malaysia Open will get 4200 WR points.
The winner in a 3* tournament such as Swiss Open will get 3600 WR points.
The winner in a 2* tournament such as Chinese Taipei Open will get 3000 WR points.
The winner in a 1* tournament will get 2400 WR points.
and...the winner in a Satellite tournament (Grade A) will get 1800 WR points.
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:45 AM
The winner in a 7* tournament such as WC or Olympic will get 6000 WR points.
The winner in a 6* tournament such as China or Indonesian Open will get 5400 WR points.
The winner in a 5* tournament such as Singapore or Japan Open will get 4800 WR points.
The winner in a 4* tournament such as All England or Malaysia Open will get 4200 WR points.
The winner in a 3* tournament such as Swiss Open will get 3600 WR points.
The winner in a 2* tournament such as Chinese Taipei Open will get 3000 WR points.
The winner in a 1* tournament will get 2400 WR points.
and...the winner in a Satellite tournament (Grade A) will get 1800 WR points.
Dont you think that the Olympics and WC deserve a higher point allocation?
Hmm, Well, right now, there are NO malaysians in ANY of the top 5 in the world... hopefully that changes though
legendarycroc
07-07-2005, 12:32 PM
MS
Lin Dan v Chen Hong
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin
MD
(currently waiting for the website to show results)
XD
Nathan/Gail v Thomas/Kamilla
Chen/Zhao v Sudket/Saralee
Lee/Lee v Nova/Lilyana
Robert/Natalie v Songpol/Kulchala
WS
LiLi v Yu Hirayama
Lu Lan v Zhu Lin
Xu Huaiwen v Yao Jie
Kaori Moi v Zhang Ning
WD
Yang/Zhang v Wong/Chin
Gail/Donna v Zhang/Zhang
Saralee/Sathinee v Gao/Huang
Ella/Joanne v Wei/Zhao
what? XXF didnt make it in WS? I wonder how LinDan feels...
weeyet
07-07-2005, 01:55 PM
what? XXF didnt make it in WS? I wonder how LinDan feels...
Fangfang was upset by Singapore's Li Li in the first round in 3 sets!!
I guess Lin Dan have to do more comforting. Probably he have to win to make her happy as well.
Syaoran_Style
07-07-2005, 03:28 PM
.. I wish Fangfang will regain this incredible form that she had all this year, that would be unfair if she doesn't win the WC .. after all efforts that she made in order to become world number one !
But well i wish also that hongyan will win this WC 2005 lol
i don't know who should i choose lool
jack27
07-07-2005, 07:34 PM
Any live on TV? when? thx!
legendarycroc
07-07-2005, 08:22 PM
not here... :( Badmnton is never on, even in the olympics...
hcyong
07-07-2005, 09:51 PM
The world has turned upside down. Where the WS ranks were drastically destroyed, the cream of the MS seem to be able to hold off the pretenders rather easily.
MS
If there is one team-mate Lin Dan does not care to play against, it is Chen Hong. The same is also true vice versa. Lin Dan to win.
Peter Gade faces a very tough home opponent in Hafiz. I think Hafiz will take this one.
Taufik is the player of the moment. Chong Wei will fight tooth-and-nail but find that it is not enough. Taufik to win.
Chen Jin blemished the record for the top seeds. Bao will put a halt on it promptly. There are no easy opponents in the quarter-final stage, but Bao is the envied one today.
WS
Seems to me that predicting against your feeling is the way to go here.
My feeling says Yu Hirayama will beat Li Li. Even though she has just beaten the World #1, Li Li's success is sporadic, but Yu's record over past tournaments has been a steady improvement.
It's a toss-up between Lu Lan and Zhu Lin. I don't know them enough.
On paper Yao Jie will defeat Xu Huaiwen, but the women has been shredding the papers recently. I still think Yao will win.
Zhang Ning is the anchor for the favourites. She is the one person will keep all those youngsters from running riot. Zhang to win the title.
MD
Luluk/Alven defeated Choong/Lee yesterday, and today will take down another Malaysian pair. Chan/Koo has time on their side, but Malaysians are getting impatient.
Laybourn/Steffensen upset the form books by ousting team-mate Boe/Mogensen. Their match against Fu/Cai will be very interesting. Fu/Cai to win.
Candra/Sigit against unknown Koreans. My money should be safe with the Indons. Candra/Sigit for the title.
Tan/Ong has as good a chance as other Malaysians to make the semi-final. Sang Yang and Xie Zhongbo are proven doubles players on their own right. As a pair, they defeated 8th-seeded Kidho/Setiawan. I predict a Chinese win.
WD
I think we will see an all-Chinese semi-final lineup, even though admittedly, this fact is not as cut-in-stone as a few years back.
XD
A win for Robertson/Emms, Sudket/Saralee, Widianto/Natsir and Blair/Munt.
badMania
07-07-2005, 10:43 PM
MS
If there is one team-mate Lin Dan does not care to play against, it is Chen Hong. The same is also true vice versa. Lin Dan to win.
Peter Gade faces a very tough home opponent in Hafiz. I think Hafiz will take this one.
Taufik is the player of the moment. Chong Wei will fight tooth-and-nail but find that it is not enough. Taufik to win.
Chen Jin blemished the record for the top seeds. Bao will put a halt on it promptly. There are no easy opponents in the quarter-final stage, but Bao is the envied one today.
MD
Luluk/Alven defeated Choong/Lee yesterday, and today will take down another Malaysian pair. Chan/Koo has time on their side, but Malaysians are getting impatient.
Laybourn/Steffensen upset the form books by ousting team-mate Boe/Mogensen. Their match against Fu/Cai will be very interesting. Fu/Cai to win.
Candra/Sigit against unknown Koreans. My money should be safe with the Indons. Candra/Sigit for the title.
Tan/Ong has as good a chance as other Malaysians to make the semi-final. Sang Yang and Xie Zhongbo are proven doubles players on their own right. As a pair, they defeated 8th-seeded Kidho/Setiawan. I predict a Chinese win.
Peter has so far beaten 3 Malaysians and face another one in the quarter-final. Luluk/Alven have also beaten 2 Malaysian pair and face one more today...what a luck they have :eek:
Now, if both Taufik and Bao Chunlai win, it will be an interesting encounter. So far, Taufik has managed wins against his previous nemesis (Lin Dan and Peter Gade). Bao is another of his nemesis....hope that he can beat Bao and meet Lin Dan again in the final :)
Candra/Sigit against Fu/Cai or Luluk/Alven in the final? They are a good bet for another title...but...the Chinese pair is always dangerous with their much better stamina and all-attack strategy. Hope that it will be an all-Indo final and a first title for Luluk/Alven this year.:D
leocheng
07-07-2005, 11:02 PM
Go peter,It is time to change the statistics.
Since you have beaten three Malaynsian players,you can win Hafiz too
Go!Go!!Go!!!
KourKK
07-07-2005, 11:12 PM
Gade did lose to hafiz though, in their last meeting in the Jati internation test held about 2 weeks back.. still a close game though, 3 sets
fanzzz
07-08-2005, 12:46 AM
Any live on TV? when? thx!
i DOn't Know Malaysia open will show on tv or not . iF noT wrong Malaysia will live on tv semi final and final at night !! :p
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 12:57 AM
i DOn't Know Malaysia open will show on tv or not . iF noT wrong Malaysia will live on tv semi final and final at night !! :p
any idea which channel? tks...
Sealman
07-08-2005, 01:08 AM
Any live on TV? when? thx!
According to www.starhub.com.sg (http://www.starhub.com.sg) the semi finals will be shown at 9th July 6pm and the finals at 12noon 10th July, both on Channel 21 (Singapore time)
Cheers
*GaDe~CaMiLlA*
07-08-2005, 01:10 AM
LIVE COVERAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :p
(Live)Malaysian Open Semi Final
Time:6:30:00 PM
Date:9-Jul-2005
Channel:SuperSport(80)
(Live)Malaysian Open Finals
Time:2:00:00 PM
Date:10-Jul-2005
Channel:SuperSport(80)
kyiyu
07-08-2005, 01:14 AM
Today is already the quater final day for Malaysia Open. So far I dont see even a single picture from the open :confused: :( :mad: :crying: .
Can some one share the photos :D :D :D :D :D .
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 01:21 AM
According to www.starhub.com.sg (http://www.starhub.com.sg) the semi finals will be shown at 9th July 6pm and the finals at 12noon 10th July, both on Channel 21 (Singapore time)
Cheers
wow.. thts good news.. :D
weeyet
07-08-2005, 02:55 AM
Today is already the quater final day for Malaysia Open. So far I dont see even a single picture from the open :confused: :( :mad: :crying: .
Can some one share the photos :D :D :D :D :D .
Hafiz in action!!
wl2172
07-08-2005, 03:54 AM
Thank you weeyet....can you please give us more?
Quarterfinal:
Lin Dan v Chen Hong - Lin Dan
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim - Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei - Taufik
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin - Bao Chun lai
Semifinal:
Lin Dan vs Hafiz Hashim - Hafiz Hashim
Tafuik vs Bao Chun Lai - Bao Chun Lai
Final: (features 2 of the tallest MS players)
Hafiz vs Bao - Bao
Judging from his SO form, I should think Peter Gade has more than an equal chance of beating Hafiz, granted the latter has home ground advantage. :D
And who knows what will happen if he succeeded. He might even beat Lin Dan and justify a place in the Finals!
And then, a repeat of his gigantic match with Taufik during the SO QF will be a sight to behold! ;)
smash
07-08-2005, 05:49 AM
LIVE COVERAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :p
(Live)Malaysian Open Semi Final
Time:6:30:00 PM
Date:9-Jul-2005
Channel:SuperSport(80)
(Live)Malaysian Open Finals
Time:2:00:00 PM
Date:10-Jul-2005
Channel:SuperSport(80)
None live chanel in Indons :crying:
smash
07-08-2005, 05:55 AM
[QUOTE=KourKK]MS
Lin Dan v Chen Hong
Peter Gade v Hafiz Hashim
Taufik v Lee Chong Wei
Bao Chun Lai v Chen Jin
So far I only missed predict on Chen Jin instead of Jonnesen on my previous prediction.... :)
Hopely the quarter..semi & final round will as my prediction (MS single prediction folder) Lin vs Taufik...
and Taufik will get the title I suppose :D
wl2172
07-08-2005, 06:00 AM
Judging from his SO form, I should think Peter Gade has more than an equal chance of beating Hafiz, granted the latter has home ground advantage. :D
And who knows what will happen if he succeeded. He might even beat Lin Dan and justify a place in the Finals!
And then, a repeat of his gigantic match with Taufik during the SO QF will be a sight to behold! ;)
That is assuming Taufik will get past Lee CW.
nugroho
07-08-2005, 06:23 AM
well.. i hope so... taufik will pass him by .. :D
wl2172
07-08-2005, 06:25 AM
well.. i hope so... taufik will pass him by .. :D
I hope not.... :)
I can't help being happy for Li Li, this diminutive lady who celebrates another birthday with her teammates in KL.
After almost being whitewashed by Zhou Mi in R2 of the SO by earning just a solitary point, she shocked Zhou by taking the second game 13-11. With that she has rediscovered her confidence and self-determination.
Therefore it is no small wonder that she could even defeat the World No. 1 Xie Xingfang, just as Ronald Susilo has beaten Lin Dan at the Athens Olympics, albeit that Xie may not be feeling well.
Li Li was talent-scouted in China when she was barely 13 years old I think and brought to Singapore to be trained as a professional. Whilst some of the girls who accompanied her failed by the wayside, she persevered and underwent the necessary training by mainly Chinese coaches to claim the coveted WS crown of the last Commonwealth Games. She has aslo helped Singapore to win the mixed team silver medal at the last Southeast Asian Games. For her achievements and contribution to Singapore badminton, Li Li has been admitted to the Hall of Fame, on par with such badminton luminaries as Wong Peng Soon, Ong Poh Lim and Ismail Marjan.
Her success has even enticed her mother to come to Singapore. She is now employed by the SBA for about 2 years now I think and is actively involved in coaching very young players still in primary schools.
I certainly hope that Li Li will be able to sail through her QF tonight as a gift for her 22nd birthday(?) and so that we can see her in action on Channel 21 in the SF.
Good Luck, Li Li!
nugroho
07-08-2005, 06:54 AM
I can't help being happy for Li Li, this diminutive lady who celebrates another birthday with her teammates in KL.
After almost being whitewashed by Zhou Mi in R2 of the SO by earning just a solitary point, she shocked Zhou by taking the second game 13-11. With that she has rediscovered her confidence and self-determination.
Therefore it is no small wonder that she could even defeat the World No. 1 Xie Xingfang, just as Ronald Susilo has beaten Lin Dan at the Athens Olympics, albeit that Xie may not be feeling well.
Li Li was talent-scouted in China when she was barely 13 years old I think and brought to Singapore to be trained as a professional. Whilst some of the girls who accompanied her failed by the wayside, she persevered and underwent the necessary training by mainly Chinese coaches to claim the coveted WS crown of the last Commonwealth Games. She has aslo helped Singapore to win the mixed team silver medal at the last Southeast Asian Games. For her achievements and contribution to Singapore badminton, Li Li has been admitted to the Hall of Fame, on par with such badminton luminaries as Wong Peng Soon, Ong Poh Lim and Ismail Marjan.
Her success has even enticed her mother to come to Singapore. She is now employed by the SBA for about 2 years now I think and is actively involved in coaching very young players still in primary schools.
I certainly hope that Li Li will be able to sail through her QF tonight as a gift for her 22nd birthday(?) and so that we can see her in action on Channel 21 in the SF.
Good Luck, Li Li!
it will be very nice present for her and make some change in WS map of the world.
nugroho
07-08-2005, 06:54 AM
I hope not.... :)
wanna bet????
:D
wl2172
07-08-2005, 06:57 AM
wanna bet????
:D
Not really, I am just cheering for my countryman, like you. But I must agree that Taufik is on fire.
kyiyu
07-08-2005, 06:59 AM
I wish her for best bright future too.:p
I can't help being happy for Li Li, this diminutive lady who celebrates another birthday with her teammates in KL.
I certainly hope that Li Li will be able to sail through her QF tonight as a gift for her 22nd birthday(?) and so that we can see her in action on Channel 21 in the SF.
Good Luck, Li Li!
tutu_h
07-08-2005, 07:04 AM
Not really, I am just cheering for my countryman, like you. But I must agree that Taufik is on fire.
me too, even though i know LCW is not as consistent as Taufik (still my favourite) but i still hope that those from my country can win the game.
go go Chong Wei and go go Hafiz. Malaysia Boleh!!!
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 07:05 AM
any update yet?? isn't it better to start the matches earlier considering now the QF stage? :confused: the MD matches (which are normally pretty lengthy) only start at 21.30.. thn again, still better thn the Indonesia Open which went all the way past midnight :D
tutu_h
07-08-2005, 07:06 AM
any update yet?? isn't it better to start the matches earlier considering now the QF stage? :confused: the MD matches (which are normally pretty lengthy) only start at 21.30.. thn again, still better thn the Indonesia Open which went all the way past midnight :D
:eek: :eek: :eek: & hahahaha:D :D :D
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 07:07 AM
me too, even though i know LCW is not as consistent as Taufik (still my favourite) but i still hope that those from my country can win the game.
go go Chong Wei and go go Hafiz. Malaysia Boleh!!!
i believe Taufik has a slight edge over Lee CW and on paper, shd have no problem advancing. but thn again, nvr underestimate Lee, he is a fighter and once he got his game going, it's gonna be really exciting.. may the best man win..
chika
07-08-2005, 07:51 AM
None live chanel in Indons :crying:
hey GOOD NEWS to smash and to everyone in indonesia.., if you have kabelvision, then u can watch MALAYSIA OPEN 2005 [LIVE] on FAMILY CHANNEL (Channel 10)!!
Semifinal
9 July 2005
05.30 PM (indonesia time)
Final
10 July 2005
01.30 PM (indonesia time)
and also Badminton on the Street and The Legend Duel on METRO TV [LIVE] on sunday 10 july, starts from 8 AM..
IM VERY EXCITING!! YES! YES! YES!
tutu_h
07-08-2005, 07:59 AM
hey GOOD NEWS to smash and to everyone in indonesia.., if you have kabelvision, then u can watch MALAYSIA OPEN 2005 [LIVE] on FAMILY CHANNEL (Channel 10)!!
Semifinal
9 July 2005
05.30 PM (indonesia time)
Final
10 July 2005
01.30 PM (indonesia time)
and also Badminton on the Street and The Legend Duel on METRO TV [LIVE] on sunday 10 july, starts from 8 AM..
IM VERY EXCITING!! YES! YES! YES!
hi chika, i'm in germany, no Live on TV! no Live Score on Internet!!!
so, could u pls update me on the latest results. please.
kemana
07-08-2005, 08:13 AM
any news on ms?
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:18 AM
er.... can taufik make it to the semi-final(of cos i wish he could)...
but won't he be too tired after the singapore open....
well just keep my fingers crossed and wish him all the best...
go taufik... go taufik... :D
kemana
07-08-2005, 08:20 AM
er.... can taufik make it to the semi-final(of cos i wish he could)...
but won't he be too tired after the singapore open....
well just keep my fingers crossed and wish him all the best...
go taufik... go taufik... :D
the match should be over till now, i reeeeally want to know the result:(
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:24 AM
the match should be over till now, i reeeeally want to know the result:(
the match is over??? really??? can someone update the scoring??? thx... :D
kemana
07-08-2005, 08:29 AM
the match is over??? really??? can someone update the scoring??? thx... :D
it should begin at 8 pm so i guess i should be over now
kokcheng
07-08-2005, 08:29 AM
I can't help being happy for Li Li, this diminutive lady who celebrates another birthday with her teammates in KL.
After almost being whitewashed by Zhou Mi in R2 of the SO by earning just a solitary point, she shocked Zhou by taking the second game 13-11. With that she has rediscovered her confidence and self-determination.
Therefore it is no small wonder that she could even defeat the World No. 1 Xie Xingfang, just as Ronald Susilo has beaten Lin Dan at the Athens Olympics, albeit that Xie may not be feeling well.
Li Li was talent-scouted in China when she was barely 13 years old I think and brought to Singapore to be trained as a professional. Whilst some of the girls who accompanied her failed by the wayside, she persevered and underwent the necessary training by mainly Chinese coaches to claim the coveted WS crown of the last Commonwealth Games. She has aslo helped Singapore to win the mixed team silver medal at the last Southeast Asian Games. For her achievements and contribution to Singapore badminton, Li Li has been admitted to the Hall of Fame, on par with such badminton luminaries as Wong Peng Soon, Ong Poh Lim and Ismail Marjan.
Her success has even enticed her mother to come to Singapore. She is now employed by the SBA for about 2 years now I think and is actively involved in coaching very young players still in primary schools.
I certainly hope that Li Li will be able to sail through her QF tonight as a gift for her 22nd birthday(?) and so that we can see her in action on Channel 21 in the SF.
Good Luck, Li Li!Hopefully one day Singapore will produce some home grown talents to be as good as the China imports.Singapore is rich enough to indulge in sports.They should ,as their supremacy in swimming is slowly but surely being overtaken byit's neighbour.
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:36 AM
it should begin at 8 pm so i guess i should be over now
so anyone knows bout the scoring???
vince 1
07-08-2005, 08:37 AM
According to the latest sports news just now, Chong Wei advance to the semis!!
The score still in the process!
kemana
07-08-2005, 08:39 AM
According to the latest sports news just now, Chong Wei advance to the semis!!
The score still in the process!
really! cry ~~~`:crying:
F-38-I
07-08-2005, 08:40 AM
[Really?!? Where did u get the score from?
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:40 AM
According to the latest sports news just now, Chong Wei advance to the semis!!
The score still in the process!
u mean taufik lost??? :eek: :crying:
Johansen
07-08-2005, 08:43 AM
Chong Wei - Taufik 15/5 15/0
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)
Johansen
07-08-2005, 08:44 AM
Gade - Hashim 15/10 12/15 15/5
Lin Dan - Chen Hong wo
Bao Chunlai - Chen Lin 15/8 15/7
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk/)
F-38-I
07-08-2005, 08:44 AM
Mmm, I stil can't believe it!!! Don't u guys in Malaysia watch the match on ur TV? Please give us the right scores!!
vince 1
07-08-2005, 08:44 AM
u mean taufik lost??? :eek: :crying:
I received the sms from my friend who now in Cheras Stadium!
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:45 AM
Chong Wei - Taufik 15/5 15/0
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)
i don see taufik's match scoring there...
xijiayu
07-08-2005, 08:45 AM
According to the latest sports news just now, Chong Wei advance to the semis!!
The score still in the process!
If this is true, then I have mixed feeling, both delighted and sad. Why? Because this shows that he can only perform well in Malaysia, truly jaguh kampung!
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 08:45 AM
Oh my... How is it possible that the score is 15-5 15-0 for Taufik's loss?
Lin Dan won Chen Hong thru W/O also...
My my... this Msia Open sure full of surprises..:eek: :eek: :eek:
Li Li made it thru to the Semi's !!! :D :D :D
F-38-I
07-08-2005, 08:46 AM
What?!? So easy taufik was beaten!!!
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:46 AM
Oh my... How is it possible that the score is 15-5 15-0 for Taufik's loss?
Lin Dan won Chen Hong thru W/O also...
My my... this Msia Open sure full of surprises..:eek: :eek: :eek:
Li Li made it thru to the Semi's !!! :D :D :D
OMG!!! it is just too er... surprising... but sad... :crying:
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 08:48 AM
*scratch head*... dun understand... simply cant imagine a 15-0 lost by Taufik.. Hmm...
But, guess worth watching the Semi's tml wif Lin Dan vs Peter
kemana
07-08-2005, 08:50 AM
Mmm, I stil can't believe it!!! Don't u guys in Malaysia watch the match on ur TV? Please give us the right scores!!
i believe the result is true but i really want to know some detail about the match is anyone there tonight could you please describe it for us,please~~~
i just can't believe my eyes, the score is so shocking
F-38-I
07-08-2005, 08:51 AM
Mm, Do u have any news beside MS?
helloworld
07-08-2005, 08:51 AM
Chong Wei - Taufik 15/5 15/0
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)
15/0 unbelievable
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:52 AM
i believe the result is true but i really want to know some detail about the match is anyone there tonight could you please describe it for us,please~~~
i just can't believe my eyes, the score is so shocking
u mean taufik really lost??? :eek:
wl2172
07-08-2005, 08:53 AM
Chong Wei - Taufik 15/5 15/0
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)
Taufik got whacked.....anyway, you win some, you lose some. As Peter likes to say.
But is this confirmed?
ploppers
07-08-2005, 08:53 AM
15-0...that's unbelievable. I'm glad Gade made it through though :D:D
Aerotus100JP
07-08-2005, 08:54 AM
Malaysia Open Quarter-Finals Match Results 8/7/2005
Mixed Doubles
1) Robertson Nathan & EMMS Gail 1* bt Laybourn Thomas & Rytter Juhl Kamilla 8* (15/6,15/8)
2) Chen Qiqiu & Zhao Tingting 3* bt Prapakamol Sudket & Thungthongkam Saralee 5* (15/9,15/7)
3) Lee Jae Jin & Lee Hyo Jung 6* bt Widianto Nova & Natsir Lilyana 4* (15/8,15/8)
4) Blair Robert & Munt Natalie 7* bt Anukritayawan Songpol & WorawichitchAikul Kulchala (17/15,8/15.17/16)
Ladies Singles
1) LILi bt Hirayama Yu (11/9,11/4)
2) Zhu Lin bt Lu Lan (11/9.11/6)
3) Yao Jie 4* bt Xu Huaiwen (8/11,11/3,11/9)
4) Zhang Ning 2* bt Mori Kaori (11/1,11/4)
Men's Singles
1) Lin Dan 1* bt Chen Hong 7* (WO)
2) Peter Gade 3* bt Hafiz Hashim 6* (15/10,12/15,15/5)
3) Lee Chong Wei 4* bt Taufik Hidayat 8* (15/5,15/0)
4) Bao Chunlai 5* bt Chen Jin (15/8,15/7)
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Taufik got whacked.....anyway, you win some, you lose some. As Peter likes to say.
But is this confirmed?
well... seems like taufik need some rest after the singapore open yah...
F-38-I
07-08-2005, 08:56 AM
Aach, why there's no live score at the malay website?!?
wl2172
07-08-2005, 08:56 AM
yes....he must be very tired and gave up
xijiayu
07-08-2005, 08:57 AM
Initially, I thought Hafiz had better chance to make it to semifinal, compared to LCW in view of in-form Taufik performance in Singapore. The results have certainly surprised me a lot and sad to know Hafiz failed to make the cut. Otherwise, it would be an interesting China vs Malaysia semifinal.
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 08:57 AM
The score u haf above shows :CW vs Taufik 15-5 15-10
But on the BAM website, it's 15-5 15-0... whichever is correct?:confused:
ploppers
07-08-2005, 08:58 AM
Another W/O with Lin Dan vs Chen...hmmm
vince 1
07-08-2005, 08:58 AM
Finally, the match results is updated! Taufik was beaten
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 08:58 AM
The score u haf above shows :CW vs Taufik 15-5 15-10
But on the BAM website, it's 15-5 15-0... whichever is correct?:confused:
well... wad is the different in the scoring...
kokcheng
07-08-2005, 08:59 AM
A win no matter what is still a win.Call him jaguh kampung,or whatever,he has beaten Taufik.Lcw can be proud,and he is the man who will stand a good chance as anybody to win the world championship this August.
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:00 AM
Finally, the match results is updated! Taufik was beaten
well... seems like we have to accept the fact yah... :(
xijiayu
07-08-2005, 09:00 AM
Another W/O with Lin Dan vs Chen...hmmm
This is not new anymore. Anything can happen in Chinese team when you want to put your country pride as top priority.
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:01 AM
This is not new anymore. Anything can happen in Chinese team when you want to put your country pride as top priority.
Hmm............. :rolleyes:
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:03 AM
Guess the new Thai pair for MX is worth taking note of... 3 close games before losing to Robert & Natalie... ... :rolleyes:
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:05 AM
can some kind soul please post the scoring for LCW v Taufik? We know who won, but 15-5, 15-10 and 15-5,15-0 is a HUGE difference
vince 1
07-08-2005, 09:06 AM
Gade eliminated the fourth Malaysia first class player!
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:06 AM
can some kind soul please post the scoring for LCW v Taufik? We know who won, but 15-5, 15-10 and 15-5,15-0 is a HUGE difference
o... sorry my fault i din see the 1 infront... ghee... ^o^
sorry ya...:o
xijiayu
07-08-2005, 09:08 AM
Gade eliminated the fourth Malaysia first class player!
Yes, this is why I feel quite embarrased with. None of them could stop him. Maybe Gade is too strong to beat at the moment. Can Lin Dan does that?
frozen44
07-08-2005, 09:09 AM
wow ! wat a suprise of the century! taufik lost 15/0 ??
just came back from cheras stadium !! damm it.. actuall wanna go for the quater final match over there but somehow ticket was sold out ...damm damm !!
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:10 AM
no one can confirm whether its 15-0 or 15-10 as yet... .. :(
cant_backhand
07-08-2005, 09:11 AM
Yes, this is why I feel quite embarrased with. None of them could stop him. Maybe Gade is too strong to beat at the moment. Can Lin Dan does that?
gade is unstopable now - i know he will win the MSC Bao" u next and then Lin Dan go go gade
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:11 AM
So tis going to be Lin Dan v Peter Gade and LCW v Bao ChunLai...
What are the odds for a Lin Dan v LCW final? they have only met once before, with Lin Dan winning 3-15 15-13 15-6 in the 2004 Thomas Cup.
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:11 AM
Yes, this is why I feel quite embarrased with. None of them could stop him. Maybe Gade is too strong to beat at the moment. Can Lin Dan does that?
well... may be he is back for revenge... :D
wl2172
07-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Yes, this is why I feel quite embarrased with. None of them could stop him. Maybe Gade is too strong to beat at the moment. Can Lin Dan does that?
Lin Dan has unfair advantage, had 1 rest day.
leocheng
07-08-2005, 09:13 AM
peter win Hafiz
peter defeat Lin dan tomorrow!!
I support you
But today,taufik‘s performance is so bad!
vince 1
07-08-2005, 09:13 AM
Now, waiting the result of the Malaysia first woman double, but this is an uphill task for them!:(
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:13 AM
Oh, and to add to that... Bao ChunLai has played Lee Chong Wei three times, and lost all three.. this will be interesting.
kemana
07-08-2005, 09:15 AM
peter win Hafiz
peter defeat Lin dan tomorrow!!
I support you
But today,taufik‘s performance is so bad!
you were there ? what is the match like ?
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 09:16 AM
i cant believe my eyes :eek: :eek: :eek: taufik beaten in that kinda score line??? anyone watched the match? what happened??
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:18 AM
i cant believe my eyes :eek: :eek: :eek: taufik beaten in that kinda score line??? anyone watched the match? what happened??
i would like to know wad happened too....
wl2172
07-08-2005, 09:19 AM
peter win Hafiz
peter defeat Lin dan tomorrow!!
I support you
But today,taufik‘s performance is so bad!
I support peter as well. I don't like China's tactics.
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:19 AM
I believe everyone would like to know!! ... one of the major upsets!!
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 09:21 AM
notice that out of 12 s-finalists (frm WS, XD, MS), only Lin Dan, Zhang Ning and Chen QQ/Zhao TT are repeat of Singapore Open?? amazing...
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:22 AM
how about the MD???
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:23 AM
MD games still on... guess results will be out much later
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:23 AM
MD games still on... guess results will be out much later
who is playing now???
xijiayu
07-08-2005, 09:23 AM
I support peter as well. I don't like China's tactics.
Perhaps some sort of conspiracy. Who know?
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:24 AM
are u guys sure LCW really perform that well tonight?
15-0 is really tooo unbelievable
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:25 AM
If it is 15-0 though... maybe the person uploading scores missed out the "1" to make it 10... but dunno.. anyone knows the real score?
kokcheng
07-08-2005, 09:25 AM
I support peter as well. I don't like China's tactics.Mee too.It's high time for China to be blue-blooded and not to resort to uncalled for tactic.Please show some respect to all badminton fans all over the world.
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:26 AM
Perhaps some sort of conspiracy. Who know?
thts wat they always do anyway..nothing new
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:26 AM
are u guys sure LCW really perform that well tonight?
15-0 is really tooo unbelievable
well it shocked me too... and maybe everyone was shocked...
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:26 AM
who is playing now???
all MD started at 9.30pm... games going on now
chika
07-08-2005, 09:27 AM
WHATS WRONG WITH TAUFIK!? HUH.. i thought could see him on semi or final.. but.. huhu.. the first set only 15-5.. and then 15-0.. pretty embarrassing for an olypmpic winner.. it seems he played without any spirit..
but.. yeah we have to accept it.. maybe he's only tired.. hope he will make a revenge on world champ..
LCW!! GOOD JOB!! hope he can get into final.. and beat lin dan..
taufik-ist
07-08-2005, 09:28 AM
peter win Hafiz
peter defeat Lin dan tomorrow!!
I support you
But today,taufik‘s performance is so bad!
no doubt taufik is one of the best player,
i think he was not in the mood to win the game....
and his stamina was only 30 % left and let lcw won easyly :)
his main goal is world championship
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:29 AM
well... honestly i was just looking through the tv guide a minute ago to see if there is any match shown on tv... and when i found one taufik was out... :(
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:31 AM
full results oredi out on www.bam.org.my (http://www.bam.org.my)
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:31 AM
well... honestly i was just looking through the tv guide a minute ago to see if there is any match shown on tv... and when i found one taufik was out... :(
he was just conserving his energy..rmember he said that he wanted to win either one of the Sg Open or Msia Open..anything else is a bonus. since he has already won the sg open, so he need not push too mcuh this time round as long as he dont lose to player lower ranked than him, he wont lose much point and he still qualify for WC
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:33 AM
he was just conserving his energy..rmember he said that he wanted to win either one of the Sg Open or Msia Open..anything else is a bonus. since he has already won the sg open, so he need not push too mcuh this time round as long as he dont lose to player lower ranked than him, he wont lose much point and he still qualify for WC
phew~ that should be a relieved...
kemana
07-08-2005, 09:34 AM
he was just conserving his energy..rmember he said that he wanted to win either one of the Sg Open or Msia Open..anything else is a bonus. since he has already won the sg open, so he need not push too mcuh this time round as long as he dont lose to player lower ranked than him, he wont lose much point and he still qualify for WC
i think about it too, but i remember he said he want to be world no.4 before the WC, but he is only 5 now , guess he still need some more point ...
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:34 AM
HADIYANTO Luluk & ALVEN Yulianto 1* bt CHAN Chong Ming & KOO Kien Keat 7* 17/16,15/7
FU Haifeng & CAI Yun 4* bt LAYBOURN Thomas & STEFFENSEN Peter 15/6,15/6
WIJAYA Candra & BUDIARTO Sigit 3* bt YOO Yeon Seong & JEON Jun Bum 15/4,15/11
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:35 AM
HADIYANTO Luluk & ALVEN Yulianto 1* bt CHAN Chong Ming & KOO Kien Keat 7* 17/16,15/7
WIJAYA Candra & BUDIARTO Sigit 3* bt YOO Yeon Seong & JEON Jun Bum 15/4,15/11
yeah... both the indonesians pair won... :D
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:35 AM
he was just conserving his energy..rmember he said that he wanted to win either one of the Sg Open or Msia Open..anything else is a bonus. since he has already won the sg open, so he need not push too mcuh this time round as long as he dont lose to player lower ranked than him, he wont lose much point and he still qualify for WC
I dont think think we can say that about taufik though.. no player will lose on purpose (apart from maybe the chinese team).. maybe LCW just played really well, with the support of the home crowd
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:36 AM
SANG Yang & XIE Zhongbo bt TAN Bin Shen & ONG Soon Hock
For WD, as usual ALL chinese teams :cool:
chika
07-08-2005, 09:38 AM
i was shocked too when i see that nova/lilyana lost the match... only one more step to the semi.. the only hope for indonesia is MD.. hope luluk/alven or sigit/candra win tonight..
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:39 AM
I dont think think we can say that about taufik though.. no player will lose on purpose (apart from maybe the chinese team).. maybe LCW just played really well, with the support of the home crowd
maybe he wasnt playing at 100%. he didnt expect LCW to give 110% infront of home crowd and giving him a 0 in the 2nd game..
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:39 AM
I dont think think we can say that about taufik though.. no player will lose on purpose (apart from maybe the chinese team).. maybe LCW just played really well, with the support of the home crowd
why would the chinese team lose on purpose too??? i don think anyone would even do that...
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:40 AM
why would the chinese team lose on purpose too??? i don think anyone would even do that...
not lose, but keep giving walkovers.. like Chen Hong did for Lin Dan in the All Englands, and Now at the Malaysian Open
taufik-ist
07-08-2005, 09:40 AM
I dont think think we can say that about taufik though.. no player will lose on purpose (apart from maybe the chinese team).. maybe LCW just played really well, with the support of the home crowd
the jaguh kampung legacy continues.... rashid shidek was former jaguh kampung
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:40 AM
HADIYANTO Luluk & ALVEN Yulianto 1* bt CHAN Chong Ming & KOO Kien Keat 7* 17/16,15/7
its sad to see chan/koo lost
saw them in action in Sg open last week. KKK is playing really well... hope to see more from him in future
Aerotus100JP
07-08-2005, 09:41 AM
Malaysia Open Quarter-Finals Match Results 8/7/2005
Women's Doubles
1) Yang Wei & Zhang Jiewen 1* bt Wong Pei Tty & Chin Eei Hui 7* (15/11,15/2)
2) Zhang Dan & Zhang Yawen 6* bt Emms Gail & Kellogg Donna (15/2,15/4)
3) Gao Ling & Huang Sui 3* bt Thungthongkam Saralee & Chankrachangwong Sathinee 5*(15/12,15/5)
4) Wei Yili & Zhao Tingting 2* bt Tripp Ella & Wright Joanne 8* (15/9,15/5)
Men's Doubles
1) Hadiyanto Luluk & Alven Yulianto 1* bt Chan Chong Ming & Koo Kien Keat 7* (17/16,15/7)
2) Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun 4* bt Laybourn Thomas & Steffensen Peter (15/6,15/6)
3) Wijaya Candra & Budiarto Sigit 3* bt Yoo Yeon Seong & Jeon Jun Bum (15/4,15/11)
4) Sang Yang & Xie Zhongbo VS Tan Bin Shen & Ong Soon Hock ( no update)
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:41 AM
maybe he wasnt playing at 100%. he didnt expect LCW to give 110% infront of home crowd and giving him a 0 in the 2nd game..
i think he lost his determintation and mood to play when he got 0 so he cant be bothered to fight in the match any longer...
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 09:41 AM
he was just conserving his energy..rmember he said that he wanted to win either one of the Sg Open or Msia Open..anything else is a bonus. since he has already won the sg open, so he need not push too mcuh this time round as long as he dont lose to player lower ranked than him, he wont lose much point and he still qualify for WC
had he said he would win both SO and MO, there will be lots of finger pointings of him being cocky... :cool: what is the difference btw losing to a player of lower and higher ranked? there's no penalty right? if the logic of the lost is him conserving energy, might as well give a WO.. that will be much better thn getting only 5 points.. my 2 cts..
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:42 AM
Too obvious that the Chinese players are always doing that in IBF tournaments
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:43 AM
why would the chinese team lose on purpose too??? i don think anyone would even do that...
few years back china team had this really sucky practise whereby if 2 chinese player meet in any international competition.. the decider will only be the 1st set. whoever lost the 1st set, will have to give up the match..taht is why if u check back the score between chinese players , the 1st set is always very close and 2nd set is just for show
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:45 AM
few years back china team had this really sucky practise whereby if 2 chinese player meet in any international competition.. the decider will only be the 1st set. whoever lost the 1st set, will have to give up the match..taht is why if u check back the score between chinese players , the 1st set is always very close and 2nd set is just for show
hm... i c.... but isn't it like er... not fair...
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:46 AM
Too obvious that the Chinese players are always doing that in IBF tournaments
chinese team must be practising alot of unfair rules that causes so many chinese players leaving china and play for other countries
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:46 AM
hm... i c.... but isn't it like er... not fair...
And Giving WalkOvers isnt fair for the other players aswell, because it means taht Lin Dan basically gets a free day to rest and recover.
magical_phoenix
07-08-2005, 09:46 AM
Has anyone had proof that Chinese teams are usually giving walkovers on purpose?? In All England championship, ppl were debating on whether Lin lost on purpose.. Isn't it just cruel?? I mean, it seems that they really underestimated Chen Hong or something. Chen Hong is still a really good player, as far as I'm concerned.. Well, just a thought.
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:48 AM
hm... i c.... but isn't it like er... not fair...
the reason is simple..they dont want their players to fight it out and used up all their energy among themselves..so their coach(or management) limit the fight to only 1 set... like taht chinese players can perform better on international compettion.. now it looks like its gettings worst, they dont even get on the court, just simply give WO.....dont evenneed to sweat it out..wat a way to cheat points
KourKK
07-08-2005, 09:48 AM
Has anyone had proof that Chinese teams are usually giving walkovers on purpose?? In All England championship, ppl were debating on whether Lin lost on purpose.. Isn't it just cruel?? I mean, it seems that they really underestimated Chen Hong or something. Chen Hong is still a really good player, as far as I'm concerned.. Well, just a thought.
but this isnt the first time its happened between chinese players...
Qidong
07-08-2005, 09:49 AM
had he said he would win both SO and MO, there will be lots of finger pointings of him being cocky... :cool: what is the difference btw losing to a player of lower and higher ranked? there's no penalty right? if the logic of the lost is him conserving energy, might as well give a WO.. that will be much better thn getting only 5 points.. my 2 cts..
Maybe he lost on purpose to CW to protest Chen Hong's W/O and Bao's easy match with Chen Jin so that Lee CW can conserve his energy to play Bao tomorrow. :D :D :D
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:50 AM
the reason is simple..they dont want their players to fight it out and used up all their energy among themselves..so their coach(or management) limit the fight to only 1 set... like taht chinese players can perform better on international compettion.. now it looks like its gettings worst, they dont even get on the court, just simply give WO.....dont evenneed to sweat it out..wat a way to cheat points
hm... i c... it is really unfair to other players ya... but it is their choice so what to do...
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:50 AM
Has anyone had proof that Chinese teams are usually giving walkovers on purpose?? In All England championship, ppl were debating on whether Lin lost on purpose.. Isn't it just cruel?? I mean, it seems that they really underestimated Chen Hong or something. Chen Hong is still a really good player, as far as I'm concerned.. Well, just a thought.
im not sure if there are any proof, but its just their way of doing things
perhaps to get the best result for their country. tahts explains why so many chinese players left the country..just look at those WS originated fr china playin for other
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:51 AM
haiz... seems like the Chinese are manipulating the matches indirectly :rolleyes:
xofrevlis
07-08-2005, 09:52 AM
few years back china team had this really sucky practise whereby if 2 chinese player meet in any international competition.. the decider will only be the 1st set. whoever lost the 1st set, will have to give up the match..taht is why if u check back the score between chinese players , the 1st set is always very close and 2nd set is just for show
Very true, with players from the Chinese squad confirming that practice themselves. But an excerpt from another thread some time ago quoted Li Yong Bo as saying that they don't do that anymore. And in any case, it is possible for Chen Hong to give Lin Dan a walkover for reasons other than that of a tactical nature. It's just that we, the public don't know which it is but it's wrong to condemn and hold them guilty until proven innocent.
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:52 AM
haiz... seems like the Chinese are manipulating the matches indirectly :rolleyes:
but sadly we don't have any proof to say that ya...
hunghing
07-08-2005, 09:52 AM
hm... i c... it is really unfair to other players ya... but it is their choice so what to do...
i believe wat happen inside china camp is like this...
they will follow wat their coach says..if he says withdraw, they have to do it..
if any players dont follow, he can easily get him out of the national team since china has so many potential player waiting to get listed in the team..
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 09:53 AM
well, u know i know... WE KNOW :cool:
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 09:53 AM
i believe wat happen inside china camp is like this...
they will follow wat their coach says..if he says withdraw, they have to do it..
if any players dont follow, he can easily get him out of the national team since china has so many potential player waiting to get listed in the team..
so other player don have the chance to perform and earn points...
magical_phoenix
07-08-2005, 09:58 AM
Very true, with players from the Chinese squad confirming that practice themselves. But an excerpt from another thread some time ago quoted Li Yong Bo as saying that they don't do that anymore. And in any case, it is possible for Chen Hong to give Lin Dan a walkover for reasons other than that of a tactical nature. It's just that we, the public don't know which it is but it's wrong to condemn and hold them guilty until proven innocent.
Well, Li Yong Bo said it and that settled it.. Still, all the Chinese players really deserve the world ranks they get (if not better). Whatever it is, I only have one thing to say to them: 中国队,加油!!!
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 10:07 AM
not jumping in defense of the chn team, no matter what they do, as long as the internal matches don't end according to 'expectation', there'll surely be lots shoutings of 'match fixing'.. thn again, how much do we know? i believe the golden rule shd always be 'innocent till proven guilty and not the other way round'...
do other teams 'practice' the same tactic? apparantly no, really no?? rather, do they have the opportunity of doing the same? if thrs other country as dominant as chn, who knows... for now, only chn has the strength with so many good players hence the luxury of 'match fixing'..
as to many good chn players running away because of the unfairness of such 'ruling', really?? not because they were relegated to B, or C team hence the lack of opportunity to perform?
let's stick to the game instead of raising the issue of match fixing every single time whn chn is involved.. let's enjoy the game.. ;)
peace....
Steven
07-08-2005, 10:08 AM
Do anyone snap some photo of the QF match today. Please post it. TQ!!!!!!!!!!
:)
indo_gal
07-08-2005, 10:09 AM
Well, Li Yong Bo said it and that settled it.. Still, all the Chinese players really deserve the world ranks they get (if not better). Whatever it is, I only have one thing to say to them: 中国队,加油!!!
anyway... no matter wad a person may support a different team but we still have to respect their decision...
wl2172
07-08-2005, 10:11 AM
Chong Wei Sweeps Past Taufik To Enter Semis
KUALA LUMPUR, July 8 (Bernama) -- Malaysian number one and defending champion Lee Chong Wei created a pleasant upset by beating favourite Taufik Hidayat of Indonesia to advance into the semi-finals of the Malaysian Open at the Kuala Lumpur Badminton Stadium here Friday night.
Chong Wei's superb display of speed and aggression saw him winning 15-5, 15-0, handing Taufik one of the most embarrassing defeats of his career.
After winning the first set 15-5 with relative ease, Chong Wei used his jumping smashes to good effect and made Taufik chase shadows on numerous occasions in the second whilst the packed stadium cheered on.
The Indonesian, who came here fresh from winning the Singapore Open last week, was a pale shadow of himself and looked lethargic, especially in the second set, failing to exert himself to make returns.
With the win, Chong Wei, the fourth seed, will meet Bao Chung Lai of China.
Meanwhile, world number one and top seed Lin Dan of China did not have to lift the racket to make the semi-finals as his opponent Chen Hong conceded a walkover due to a recurrence of his back injury after Thursday's win over Indonesian Sony Dwi Kuncoro.
Chong Wei's joy was, however, overshadowed by Hafiz Hashim's exit after losing to Danish player Peter Gade Christensen in three sets.
Hafiz, who lost the first set 10-15, staged a spirited fightback to take the second set 15-12 but ran out of steam in the third to lose 5-15.
In another all-Chinese quarter-final encounter, Bao Chunlai defeated Chen Jin 15-8, 15-7 in straight sets to advance.
Meanwhile, in the women's singles, unseeded Li Li of Singapore continued her superb form with an easy 11-9, 11-4 win over Japan's Yu Hirayama to advance into the semi-finals.
Li Li, who upset top seed Xie Xingfang in the first round, will meet Zhu Lin of China who beat compatriot Lu Lan 11-9, 11-6 to book her berth.
Yao Jie of the Netherlands also made it to the semi-finals after beating German Xu Huaiwen 8-11, 11-3, 11-9 in three sets while second seed Zhang Ning stamped her mark with a 11-1, 11-4 victory over Japan's Kaori Mori.
-- BERNAMA
Much more accurate reporting from Bernama. Rajes Paul from "The Star" take note, you have made many silly errors before. Please read http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25099
*~Taufik~*
07-08-2005, 10:14 AM
so it's a comfirmation that taufik's 2nd set is a 0-15?
Badmincraze
07-08-2005, 10:15 AM
so it's really 15-0 :(
sunzhi
07-08-2005, 10:32 AM
omg.. that sure is one embarrasing defeat.. i remember he (taufik) lost to lin dan in ABC 2001 2-15, 3-15... unbelievable...
SE1992
07-08-2005, 10:43 AM
I am so, so happy that Steven Gerrard has signed up for another two years...........ooops wrong forum.
I mean I am so, so happy that Lee Chong Wei won....yeah!!!!
jug8man
07-08-2005, 10:43 AM
wow..... this is abit late..... but i just found out LCW gave taufik the duck.
amazing things happen when im away........... hmmmph.
cheers
8man
ctjcad
07-08-2005, 11:49 AM
Hmm, i thought Taufik(along with LinDan) will be playing in the upcoming Asia vs. Europe tournament later in Phillippines(after Malaysian Open)...Could this be the case, he's saving up his energy for that tournament..Boy, hope he(and the coach) knows what he's doing and has enough energy to play there and hope he doesn't injure himself, exerting so much energy playing in 3 straight tournaments...Heard he already ran out of gas in the Malaysian Open??...:p.
It'll be sad if he gets injured, in that "mind-boggling" tourney, playing against Europe's "2nd and 3rd tiered" players, and won't attend or can't play in the WC..Hope this is not a "setup", resting the other top 7-8 MS players, and making LinDan and Taufik work and play...
I might sound a bit selfish here, but the WC is only a month away and he needs as much rest and practice as he can..Oh well, i guess they're doing it for the money... :rolleyes:
Taufik got whacked.....anyway, you win some, you lose some. As Peter likes to say.
But is this confirmed?
wl2172
07-08-2005, 11:56 AM
wanna bet????
:D
Next time....count your chickens after they hatch. Taufik was handed a duck :)
Qidong
07-08-2005, 12:05 PM
Haha, I can tell people Taufiik is just 5 points better than me. :D :D :D For sure if I play Lee CW, the score will deinitely be 0-15 0-15. Taufik is just 5 points better. Just kidding. :D :D :D
Joanne
07-08-2005, 12:12 PM
I went!!! Amazing. Just amazing. My first 'international' tournament that I went for in my life...
The atmosphere was *wow*.
Of course.. only idiots like me forget to bring my camera.
And I was supposed to go down with my coach to see the games from the 'ground' level, the ones where only certain people are allowed. Due to some miscommunication I didn't know about this.. and sat with the other audience till nearly the end. Reached at 6.30pm, left at 11.45pm.
Taufik seemed rather slow when he played. He hardly stretched for certain shots. Some people said that he was drunk till 4am last night, but we don't know how true that is. But if it's true, it explains why he was slow today.
The other matches were frustrating. Malaysian players, that is. Hafiz lost to Gade in a rubber set.. the women doubles lost in straight sets, and Chan/Koo lost too.
The most frustrating match was Tan/Ong against the 2 China players. They had the lead 12-6 in the rubber set. They were on the attacking side most of the time. But they couldn't kill the shuttle! They tapped and tapped and smashed and smashed but the shuttle couldn't die. And they cleared quite a few shots out. Really sad. It was the last match, everyone was watching. Perhaps they felt the pressure.
Still, it was a fantastic day.:D
Hopefully one day Singapore will produce some home grown talents to be as good as the China imports.Singapore is rich enough to indulge in sports.They should ,as their supremacy in swimming is slowly but surely being overtaken byit's neighbour.
Actually we have already started the process by importing foreign talents and starting our own sports school. We do have our own Kendrick Lee who was the runner-up in the World Junior Championships 2002.
It is not that Singapore lacked the badminton talents in the young age-group such as Li Li's when we first brought her here. We do have good potentials and with the inception of the sports school, we are now able to entice them with parental consent to study in this special school. As with most Chinese parents, the paper-chase comes first, therefore they are the ones who decide what their children will do. Happily this has changed somewhat in Singapore and I hope we will see many more sports talents being admitted into the ss.
It is not easy to maintain one's dominant position in sports. It will be a matter of time before others catch up. So even for China, it can't remain still and be happy with what it is doing now for then other countries will soon be able to match and even surpass it.
Talking about swimming, we have an ex-Olympic swimmer who is now at the pinnacle of our sports administration pyramid. But this gentleman is able to mix studies with swimming during his student days. Who says studies and sports do not mix and does not pay? :D
jug8man
07-08-2005, 12:48 PM
Maybe he lost on purpose to CW to protest Chen Hong's W/O and Bao's easy match with Chen Jin so that Lee CW can conserve his energy to play Bao tomorrow. :D :D :D
my thinking is different but i do agree with you on some parts.
2 matches: all chinese affair..... obviously easy passages for china players into the semis.
Gade Vs Hashim, and Taufik Vs Lee Chong Wei
who ever won between the taufik vs LCW match... 1 thing is certain..... the winner will face a fresh china player in the semi.
plus! LCW is the defending champ and playing in front of homecrowd. this means LCW is sure to give 110%
if taufik did beat LCW..... taufik would be easy prey in the next round.
and for a man like taufik..... semifinal isnt good enuff to motivate him.
cheers
8man
ps. not taking anything away from LCW! MALAYSIA BOLEH!
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 01:08 PM
I've this website that says lee chong wei defeated peter gade...today..:confused:
I agree that we should give the benefit of the doubt to Chen Hong, who is reported to have suffered a back injury and NOT to cast him with doubt and conspiracy.
Yes, we know that both countrymen hail from the same province and are very good friends off court, but as the AE had shown, Chen Hong went all out to defeat Lin Dan. I'm sure Chen wants to do well to win more points and prize money. But the injury, which normally has to be confirmed by a neutral doctor at site I think, put paid to his ambitions and he reluctantly surrended to his compatroit, coincidentally.
Had Chen continued to play despite his injury, no matter how serious or otherwise, he would have worsened it and may not be able to show up for the all important WC, which is just around the corner! Worse still, he might be out of action for a few months just as Peter Gade had experienced before. Remember how difficult it was for Peter to go through his rehabilitation and after that to have to go through the qualifying rounds to gain entry to the main draw?
If you were in Chen Hong's shoes, would you want to take such a risk? If you were Chen Hong's coach, would you recommend he continues to play? Therefore, if Chen's case is genuine, is it fair for us to brand him a conspirator or even worse, a match fixer?
Guilty as proved???
khwong
07-08-2005, 01:38 PM
Wow! guess who did i bump into during supper right after the matches.
Lee Chong Wei, Koo Kien keat and 2 female friends. They had wantan mee for supper! Too bad i did not carry a camera at that time. Great atmosphere at the stadium just now. it was AMAZING!!!!!
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 01:40 PM
Wow! guess who did i bump into during supper right after the matches.
Lee Chong Wei, Koo Kien keat and 2 female friends. They had wantan mee for supper! Too bad i did not carry a camera at that time. Great atmosphere at the stadium just now. it was AMAZING!!!!!
how much was it ($) to get in the stadium and watch the matches?
khwong
07-08-2005, 01:47 PM
how much was it ($) to get in the stadium and watch the matches?
Preliminaries RM10
semifinals RM15
finals RM20
the quarterfinals today was sold out. had to park my car miles away!
gonna catch it live on tv from semifinals onwards.
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 02:03 PM
omg! So little?!!!Thats like $6.50CAN for the finals...!!
virusvoodoo
07-08-2005, 02:50 PM
I agree that we should give the benefit of the doubt to Chen Hong, who is reported to have suffered a back injury and NOT to cast him with doubt and conspiracy.
Yes, we know that both countrymen hail from the same province and are very good friends off court, but as the AE had shown, Chen Hong went all out to defeat Lin Dan. I'm sure Chen wants to do well to win more points and prize money. But the injury, which normally has to be confirmed by a neutral doctor at site I think, put paid to his ambitions and he reluctantly surrended to his compatroit, coincidentally.
Had Chen continued to play despite his injury, no matter how serious or otherwise, he would have worsened it and may not be able to show up for the all important WC, which is just around the corner! Worse still, he might be out of action for a few months just as Peter Gade had experienced before. Remember how difficult it was for Peter to go through his rehabilitation and after that to have to go through the qualifying rounds to gain entry to the main draw?
If you were in Chen Hong's shoes, would you want to take such a risk? If you were Chen Hong's coach, would you recommend he continues to play? Therefore, if Chen's case is genuine, is it fair for us to brand him a conspirator or even worse, a match fixer?
Guilty as proved???
True but I bet he wouldn't given his opponent a walkover if it was some other player from another country. He would at least use some of his strength to try to advance. Also, this happens quite a few times with Chinese players, probably way more than the players from other countries.
This is why I do not like Chinese players anymore. I am a strong supporter of Gade and Hidayat; since Taufik is out, I am rooting for Gade all the way!
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 02:52 PM
o anyone know when chen jin and bao chunlai are playing? I haven't heard any news about the result, so im asumming that they haven't played yet...:confused:
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 02:54 PM
True but I bet he wouldn't given his opponent a walkover if it was some other player from another country. He would at least use some of his strength to try to advance.
but if its any injury that would stop him from playing for the WC he wouldn't do it...this is the one open he cant win with an injury.. whats more important, the malaysian openor the world champsionships? THe WC obviously, Chen HOng and his coach knows that, so that surrenderred...Besides Lin DAn and Chen HOng know eachother, thers no rivalry there...They even came from the same country!!!
Treker
07-08-2005, 03:59 PM
but if its any injury that would stop him from playing for the WC he wouldn't do it...this is the one open he cant win with an injury.. whats more important, the malaysian openor the world champsionships? THe WC obviously, Chen HOng and his coach knows that, so that surrenderred...Besides Lin DAn and Chen HOng know eachother, thers no rivalry there...They even came from the same country!!!
I am a Chinese but I am really sick of this type of selfishness by these two players. There were full house of people who paid to watch this game! So for the healthy of this sports, I suggest IBF set up a rule to investigate and punish this kind of act in the future!
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 04:22 PM
I am a Chinese but I am really sick of this type of selfishness by these two players. There were full house of people who paid to watch this game! So for the healthy of this sports, I suggest IBF set up a rule to investigate and punish this kind of act in the future!
then again its like 5$, that's not much money, is it..IF you were chen hong what would you do? Get popularity or End your career? That's the decision he had to make, he made the right one, probably not the brave and honourable one...
ArmotecDude
07-08-2005, 04:33 PM
I agree with everyone who said that Chinese players have always give walkovers or give games away to their teamates. It goes back to the time with Yang Yang and Zhao Jian Hua (or since the beginning) where Yang Yang would bow out to give ZJH more points...I have a match between them two where YY just kept clearing to ZJH who is a strong agressive player who attacked at every opportunity...I also have a match of YY and Morten Frost...YY seemed like 2 different players..
Anyways! Go Candra/Sigit! For the title!
ploppers
07-08-2005, 04:48 PM
I don't like how China is immediately accused for cheated whenever a player w/o to another. This HAS happened to other countries and no one suspected them. For example, I believe it was the 2002 China open when Peter Rassmusen gave a w.o to Peter Gade. No one said anything about Peter being ordered to give a walk over just so that Peter G. could get some points for he upcomming wc. Whether China did it or not, it's not fair to immediately point fingers when such an incedent occurs.
Treker
07-08-2005, 05:16 PM
I don't like how China is immediately accused for cheated whenever a player w/o to another. This HAS happened to other countries and no one suspected them. For example, I believe it was the 2002 China open when Peter Rassmusen gave a w.o to Peter Gade. No one said anything about Peter being ordered to give a walk over just so that Peter G. could get some points for he upcomming wc. Whether China did it or not, it's not fair to immediately point fingers when such an incedent occurs.
It does not matter which country are the players from. If this is the attitude in this sports, then one day it will be in the position being kicking out Olympics. BTW, how many times this happened between these two players???
Treker
07-08-2005, 05:39 PM
then again its like 5$, that's not much money, is it..IF you were chen hong what would you do? Get popularity or End your career? That's the decision he had to make, he made the right one, probably not the brave and honourable one...
You mean 5 US $s?! That's a lot for the people over there.
wl2172
07-08-2005, 05:48 PM
You mean 5 US $s?! That's a lot for the people over there.
Hi treker....you think we can't fork out US5 to watch a match? It is full house my friend. Tickets are sold out.
Wait a minute, I know....it must be pirated tickets, 10 cents per piece.
streamyx
07-08-2005, 05:52 PM
09/07/05, 02:10:11
KUALA LUMPUR, July 8 (Bernama) -- Malaysian number one and defending champion Lee Chong Wei created a pleasant upset by beating favourite Taufik Hidayat of Indonesia to advance into the semi-finals of the Malaysian Open at the Kuala Lumpur Badminton Stadium here Friday night.
Chong Wei's superb display of speed and aggression saw him winning 15-5, 15-0, handing Taufik one of the most embarrassing defeats of his career.
After winning the first set 15-5 with relative ease, Chong Wei used his jumping smashes to good effect and made Taufik chase shadows on numerous occasions in the second whilst the packed stadium cheered on.
The Indonesian, who came here fresh from winning the Singapore Open last week, was a pale shadow of himself and looked lethargic, especially in the second set, failing to exert himself to make returns.
With the win, Chong Wei, the fourth seed, will meet Bao Chung Lai of China.
Meanwhile, world number one and top seed Lin Dan of China did not have to lift the racket to make the semi-finals as his opponent Chen Hong conceded a walkover due to a recurrence of his back injury after Thursday's win over Indonesian Sony Dwi Kuncoro.
Chong Wei's joy was, however, overshadowed by Hafiz Hashim's exit after losing to Danish player Peter Gade Christensen in three sets.
Hafiz, who lost the first set 10-15, staged a spirited fightback to take the second set 15-12 but ran out of steam in the third to lose 5-15.
In another all-Chinese quarter-final encounter, Bao Chunlai defeated Chen Jin 15-8, 15-7 in straight sets to advance.
Meanwhile, in the women's singles, unseeded Li Li of Singapore continued her superb form with an easy 11-9, 11-4 win over Japan's Yu Hirayama to advance into the semi-finals.
Li Li, who upset top seed Xie Xingfang in the first round, will meet Zhu Lin of China who beat compatriot Lu Lan 11-9, 11-6 to book her berth.
Yao Jie of the Netherlands also made it to the semi-finals after beating German Xu Huaiwen 8-11, 11-3, 11-9 in three sets while second seed Zhang Ning stamped her mark with a 11-1, 11-4 victory over Japan's Kaori Mori.
cooler
07-08-2005, 06:24 PM
09/07/05, 02:10:11
KUALA LUMPUR, July 8 (Bernama) -- Malaysian number one and defending champion Lee Chong Wei created a pleasant upset by beating favourite Taufik Hidayat of Indonesia to advance into the semi-finals of the Malaysian Open at the Kuala Lumpur Badminton Stadium here Friday night.
Chong Wei's superb display of speed and aggression saw him winning 15-5, 15-0, handing Taufik one of the most embarrassing defeats of his career.
After winning the first set 15-5 with relative ease, Chong Wei used his jumping smashes to good effect and made Taufik chase shadows on numerous occasions in the second whilst the packed stadium cheered on.
The Indonesian, who came here fresh from winning the Singapore Open last week, was a pale shadow of himself and looked lethargic, especially in the second set, failing to exert himself to make returns.
With the win, Chong Wei, the fourth seed, will meet Bao Chung Lai of China.
Meanwhile, world number one and top seed Lin Dan of China did not have to lift the racket to make the semi-finals as his opponent Chen Hong conceded a walkover due to a recurrence of his back injury after Thursday's win over Indonesian Sony Dwi Kuncoro.
Chong Wei's joy was, however, overshadowed by Hafiz Hashim's exit after losing to Danish player Peter Gade Christensen in three sets.
Hafiz, who lost the first set 10-15, staged a spirited fightback to take the second set 15-12 but ran out of steam in the third to lose 5-15.
In another all-Chinese quarter-final encounter, Bao Chunlai defeated Chen Jin 15-8, 15-7 in straight sets to advance.
Meanwhile, in the women's singles, unseeded Li Li of Singapore continued her superb form with an easy 11-9, 11-4 win over Japan's Yu Hirayama to advance into the semi-finals.
Li Li, who upset top seed Xie Xingfang in the first round, will meet Zhu Lin of China who beat compatriot Lu Lan 11-9, 11-6 to book her berth.
Yao Jie of the Netherlands also made it to the semi-finals after beating German Xu Huaiwen 8-11, 11-3, 11-9 in three sets while second seed Zhang Ning stamped her mark with a 11-1, 11-4 victory over Japan's Kaori Mori.
Great to see li mao and team are bearing fruit of their labor so soon. Note the report said SPEED and aggression of CW, the missing part of the old MAL team. What happen to taufik's great technique, great tight net, great deception?? U ask, cooler, taufik had beat LD in SG open with similar scores and LD is faster. Yes taufik did. My answer to that is about the often unmentioned component, more important than speed, that is mental. I believe LD was mentally lax or weak (from over confidence at the sudirman win). What CW dish out to taufik was speed and aggression, ie, (sustain) speed and mental toughness. The scores have shown how powerful these two skills are over any other skills.
The chineses are never really strong in the mental dept. LD choked at athen. Choking = mental lapse. I view MAL and INA are mentally stronger than the china team. Look at zhang ning, it took her TEN years to get her jinx out(IMO, ZN almost lost at athen too if mia audina didnt poop out half way of 2nd game). IMO, there is no WS player physically built to near perfection like zhang ning. That is why she can play much longer than most WS player. If her mental remain tough or even improve with time, she can continue to win titles. China can 'milk' her for a little while longer so may i say :D
legendarycroc
07-08-2005, 06:25 PM
You mean 5 US $s?! That's a lot for the people over there.
to get into a sport event? Its usually like 20-50$!!
nugroho
07-08-2005, 07:22 PM
according to indonesia local newspaper.. taufiq got problem n his back... he tried to frigt up on the 1st set.. bet it was getting worse...
i hope it will be over before the WC...
God BLess him... Amin...
:)
Treker
07-08-2005, 08:16 PM
Hi treker....you think we can't fork out US5 to watch a match? It is full house my friend. Tickets are sold out.
Wait a minute, I know....it must be pirated tickets, 10 cents per piece.
That's why you like to see a match, not w/o, right?
kevin&sandy
07-08-2005, 10:39 PM
well it shocked me too... and maybe everyone was shocked...
taufik already showing signs of not fighting back at the end of the 1st set. he was slow and not attacking LCW. LCW was playing very well and showed the same form when he trashed shoji sato during the Sudirman Cup.
cooler
07-09-2005, 01:55 AM
according to indonesia local newspaper.. taufiq got problem n his back... he tried to frigt up on the 1st set.. bet it was getting worse...
i hope it will be over before the WC...
God BLess him... Amin...
:)
hmm, I read from an interview (somewhere in BF) that taufik was feeling great after taking SG open MS title and has a goal to bag a win from either SG or MAL open before going to the WC.
wl2172
07-09-2005, 03:29 AM
That's why you like to see a match, not w/o, right?
Malaysians are relatively well-off nowadays, I think we can afford US5 to watch a match. I found your comment that US5 may be beyond us rather unfortunate. :)
SmartCivet
07-09-2005, 03:53 AM
True but I bet he wouldn't given his opponent a walkover if it was some other player from another country. He would at least use some of his strength to try to advance. Also, this happens quite a few times with Chinese players, probably way more than the players from other countries.
This is why I do not like Chinese players anymore. I am a strong supporter of Gade and Hidayat; since Taufik is out, I am rooting for Gade all the way!
what you say only simply show you are jealous of china team's success.
SmartCivet
07-09-2005, 04:00 AM
not jumping in defense of the chn team, no matter what they do, as long as the internal matches don't end according to 'expectation', there'll surely be lots shoutings of 'match fixing'.. thn again, how much do we know? i believe the golden rule shd always be 'innocent till proven guilty and not the other way round'...
do other teams 'practice' the same tactic? apparantly no, really no?? rather, do they have the opportunity of doing the same? if thrs other country as dominant as chn, who knows... for now, only chn has the strength with so many good players hence the luxury of 'match fixing'..
as to many good chn players running away because of the unfairness of such 'ruling', really?? not because they were relegated to B, or C team hence the lack of opportunity to perform?
let's stick to the game instead of raising the issue of match fixing every single time whn chn is involved.. let's enjoy the game.. ;)
peace....
you say what i want to say!
KourKK
07-09-2005, 04:12 AM
you say what i want to say!
I believe that what the important issue here is for the supporters and viewers who pay good money to watch a semi/quarter/final match, and they want to see a titanic struggle, with brilliant shots and amazing skills on display... so walkovers, whether because of giving your teammate a rest or whatever... is of course dissapointing for the other competing professionals, but more so for the supporters, whom without their support we would have no tournaments...
I believe that what the important issue here is for the supporters and viewers who pay good money to watch a semi/quarter/final match, and they want to see a titanic struggle, with brilliant shots and amazing skills on display... so walkovers, whether because of giving your teammate a rest or whatever... is of course dissapointing for the other competing professionals, but more so for the supporters, whom without their support we would have no tournaments...
but if a player is indeed injured, will the game be interesting?
perfect example, LeeCW vs. Taufik. Taufik was apparently injured as reported above, but he still played, and the score was 15-5 / 15-0, was that game interesting?
KourKK
07-09-2005, 04:17 AM
but if a player is indeed injured, will the game be interesting?
perfect example, LeeCW vs. Taufik. Taufik was apparently injured as reported above, but he still played, and the score was 15-5 / 15-0, was that game interesting?
Good Point, you cant tell whether a player is really injured or just giving up when he concedes a walkover... but either way.. i feel that his concience should know the truth, as we can only assume.. But About LeeCW vs Taufik, That might not have been interesting to the fans, but im sure the fans applaud Taufik Hidayat for his commitment to the game, and for his dedication to his fans, and the will to never say die.
It does not matter which country are the players from. If this is the attitude in this sports, then one day it will be in the position being kicking out Olympics. BTW, how many times this happened between these two players???
if badminton gets kicked out of the olympics due to attitude, it will not be due to the attitude of the players/teams, but instead the attitude of the supporters like yourself. if whenever there are any injuries or poorly played matches, the whole world goes in and blindly blamed it as match-fixing without verifying the facts, we will give badminton a very bad image due to all these unsubstantiated rumors and accusations.
Good Point, you cant tell whether a player is really injured or just giving up when he concedes a walkover... but either way.. i feel that his concience should know the truth, as we can only assume..
yes. agree. we should not throw in blind accusations. we must verify the facts first. it is easy to blame, but difficult to justify.
But About LeeCW vs Taufik, That might not have been interesting to the fans, but im sure the fans applaud Taufik Hidayat for his commitment to the game, and for his dedication to his fans, and the will to never say die.
i doubt it, it was home game for LeeCW. ;)
KourKK
07-09-2005, 04:25 AM
i doubt it, it was home game for LeeCW. ;)
hahah.. true true :D .. but you never know with malaysian fans.. as im sure they have let down our sporting teams before, such as in the last edition of the Tiger Cup, Malaysia Played indonesia in the Quarterfinals, they played in the national stadium at bukit jalil, but yet, there were more indonesian fans in the crowd (if you can call it that)
sunzhi
07-09-2005, 05:15 AM
True but I bet he wouldn't given his opponent a walkover if it was some other player from another country. He would at least use some of his strength to try to advance. Also, this happens quite a few times with Chinese players, probably way more than the players from other countries.
This is why I do not like Chinese players anymore. I am a strong supporter of Gade and Hidayat; since Taufik is out, I am rooting for Gade all the way!
trust me, playing one more match would not have much effect on the chinese players, if the stamina or conserving energy is your concern :)
this happen more often to the chn players because they are there all the time, because of their domination, agree??
DaN_fAn
07-09-2005, 05:22 AM
not jumping in defense of the chn team, no matter what they do, as long as the internal matches don't end according to 'expectation', there'll surely be lots shoutings of 'match fixing'.. thn again, how much do we know? i believe the golden rule shd always be 'innocent till proven guilty and not the other way round'...
do other teams 'practice' the same tactic? apparantly no, really no?? rather, do they have the opportunity of doing the same? if thrs other country as dominant as chn, who knows... for now, only chn has the strength with so many good players hence the luxury of 'match fixing'..
as to many good chn players running away because of the unfairness of such 'ruling', really?? not because they were relegated to B, or C team hence the lack of opportunity to perform?
let's stick to the game instead of raising the issue of match fixing every single time whn chn is involved.. let's enjoy the game.. ;)
peace....
I know!let's stop that there.why,even if we have had all been there to watch the match we could n'tell whether he really had an injury or no.so,how can we sit a thousand miles away and comment??Benefit of doubt should go to Chen Hong[who according to me would not do a thing like that]
I will confess one thing though, i am no fan of all chinese finals!
jurong_twister
07-09-2005, 12:40 PM
could it be related to the world ranking?
looks to me he doesnt want to be in the same pool as Lin Dan.
hcyong
07-09-2005, 10:07 PM
could it be related to the world ranking?
looks to me he doesnt want to be in the same pool as Lin Dan.
The only way to make sure you're not in the same half as Lin Dan (assuming Lin Dan will be world #1), is to be world #2.
belfastnole2
07-10-2005, 02:21 AM
of course we cannot jump to conclusions because we do not know the facts however how many times has a chinese player withdrawn through injury against a NON chinese player compared with a compatriot -i believe that statistically the FACTS are overwhelming -you can draw your own conclusions
uluh dayak
07-10-2005, 04:02 AM
according to indonesia local newspaper.. taufiq got problem n his back... he tried to frigt up on the 1st set.. bet it was getting worse...
i hope it will be over before the WC...
God BLess him... Amin...
:)
his back? iheard it was his abdomen. he strained some muscle or whatever it is in the first round against a japanese player. but he managed to beat 1 more player before beaten by LCW. if its true, we should bow 4 this kind of sportmanship. all the way to the last drop of muggle blood.
But its also stupid, WC is just a few months away.he should,ve rest. not like he hassomething to prove right?
ctjcad
07-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Yah, agree...BTW, the World Championship is next month already, not "a few months away"...That's why if he's playing in the upcoming "Asia vs. Europe" tournament in the Phillippines, that'll even further delay his recovery....gud knows why??... :rolleyes:
But its also stupid, WC is just a few months away.he should,ve rest. not like he hassomething to prove right?
Yah, agree...BTW, the World Championship is next month already, not "a few months away"...That's why if he's playing in the upcoming "Asia vs. Europe" tournament in the Phillippines, that'll even further delay his recovery....gud knows why??... :rolleyes:
this will be a light game for him. He may not play the game seriously.
ctjcad
07-10-2005, 02:28 PM
so he will not be playing seriously heh this coming week??...hmm, gud knows why, but even if it's gonna be light matches for him, it's gotta be the money thing(win or lose), even if the supposed rib injury is still lingering...but if Taufik thinks he can "recover" in about 4 weeks time, then more power to him..
this will be a light game for him. He may not play the game seriously.
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