Badminton crowd : loud or quiet?

[kwun]

i see there are some differing opinions on how a badminton crowd should show their support during a badminton tournament. some thinks that too much noise is bad. some thinks that the more the better atmosphere. let's see what other members thinks...

[w_h_y]

Badminton is Badminton, distracting cheers should not be blended into the game!Cheerings between rallies are ideal, no mater how loud they are, I mean after all, we are all badminton FANS who paid to see the exciting game. "Whoooo Ahhhh!!!!" during smashes should be elminiated. It's badminton, not Karl Malone posting a FT in an NBA game!



i see there are some differing opinions on how a badminton crowd should show their support during a badminton tournament. some thinks that too much noise is bad. some thinks that the more the better atmosphere. let's see what other members thinks...

[Pre-emptive]

I would say as loud as you could when not in rally and quiet or cheer politely with respect during the rally. Main thing is not to upset or distract the players while they are playing. Bare in mind that they are playing world class badminton and not club game or basketball.

Sorry cooler for stealing your quote:

funny: when the interviewer asked martin (DEN) after their lost, Martin went , laugh a bit witha facial expression, hello, are u deaf, the crowd is loud and crazy.

[Jumpalot]

I have seen most of the cheers in badminton and including this WC. There wasnt anything that would bothered me except for rare occassional someone would say "out" before the play is dead. Professionals are professionals and they really should already know how to play in a noisy environment afterall its a sport and ultimately the fans are the ones paying and supporting the sport for any sport to be commercilly successful. Realistically and ideally the fans really have every right to cheer in ways they feel like as long as its not interrupting the play. In most professional sports in US, fans can "almost" say anything and cheer any time they want. Many times fans will talk directly to opponents and putting them down verbally. But guess what, the game goes on and the players keeps going. Whether thats right or wrong, it's now part of almost all professional games.

I believe we all want badminton to be a major sport one day and we all want to be treated as equals when compared to basketball, baseball, football and hockey. So there may be a time when we have to sit down and decide if we are any more "special" than other sport where a fan must remain virtually silent for a special periods of time.

[madbad]

My vote is for loudness anytime. However you will find that during rallies, most spectators concentrate on the game until an exciting moment (smash, dive, trick shot) when they may OOH and AAH. If someone wants to lend vocal support to a favourite player, by all means knock yourself out. Players should be professional enough to play through noisy crowds/distractions.

[cooler]

in amercia, audience participation is encouraged :D
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Parody :)


The starting line-up

# Player Pos How recruited Fate
- ---------------- --- -------------------------- ------------------------
1 Steve Sax 2B playing at jazz club six life sentences
2 Wade Boggs 3B punched out by Barney
3 Darryl Strawberry RF pulled for pinch hitter
4 Jose Canseco LF baseball card convention saving burning house
5 Don Mattingly 1B washing dishes at home kicked off team
6 Ken Griffey, Jr. CF overdose of nerve tonic
7 Mike Scioscia C deer hunting radiation overdose
8 Ozzie Smith SS touring Graceland lost in Mystery Spot
9 Roger Clemens P thinks he's a chicken


pic 1 the pep talk
pic 2 darryl strawberry showing homer's of his ability
pic 3 Bart and Lisa chanting : Darrrryl... Darrrryl....... (audience participation :p)

[DinkAlot]

Noise? Ever heard of home court advantage? That's the whole point. :p

[jcl49]

Any of the above I feel is acceptable. The one which I can not tolerate is those occasions where some audience member shout "out" when the shuttle is close to the lines. They do not only do this once, but repeatedly. Hopefully, it doesn't influence any players - experienced or inexperienced.

[pommyg]

Any of the above I feel is acceptable. The one which I can not tolerate is those occasions where some audience member shout "out" when the shuttle is close to the lines. They do not only do this once, but repeatedly. Hopefully, it doesn't influence any players - experienced or inexperienced.

LOUD :crying:

Pommy

(http://www.thebadmintonstore.com)

[ErrBerr]

Loud! Shows that badminton isn't a boring sport but an exciting and exhilarating game! ;)

[Locomoco]

The sport needs some drunken badminton hooligans... :p

[CG 99]

I reckon they should cheer as loud as they want. Most players will be concentrating so hard that they might not even notice the crowd once the rally has started. I also find that the crowd actually get gradually quieter in a long rally as they become more absorbed in it.


Suppose it depends on the type of player whether they like the noise or not. Some will play to the crowd and will thrive of the feedback, others won't like it as much, but you can't have it both ways.:p

[nkiattin]

Loud is good but no yelling "OUT" or "IN" though. I think the loud cheering kept Howard going during the match. But he should definitely stop interacting with the crowd because he got warned twice.

[coops241180]

definitely as loud as possible all the time, with exaggeration when a player can smash - i remember wc2003 when malaysians were playing - there was a hardcore bunch of supporters screaming 'ya' every time one of them was winding up for a smash - it was great.

also i have experience playing thru noise - it's not as hard as you might imagine, even for a rubbish player like me.. very easy to get lost in concentration - altho difficult to tell your partner that it's their's :D ah well :D

[wood_22_chuck]

Loudly! Please, between rallies, and especially when an imminent smash is coming ... :D

Badminton is an exciting, dynamic sport, like real-life chess! Battle-hard, play hard. Cheer hard.

-dave

[madbad]

Y'know, just had this thought. D'ya think it's the people who complain about the noise during rallies that the noise actually bothers. In other words they're using the players as a smokescreen for their own intolerance to the noise. Personally I don't think most players are bothered. Hmmm... just a thought.

[Azwok]

I reckon the level at the All England championships is about right. Though this year, someone brought a trumpet/ fanfare in, I think it was one of the danish junior national squad who were there. That really annoyed me. When a player is winding up for a smash and the crowd are doing this "ooowwaaa" sorta thing, the largest "a" being when the smash is actually hit, thats great, gives some really great atmosphere, expecially if theres like 3 or 4 continual smashes. It also seems to give this addictive quality to the rally, assuming that I'm watching it on my PC, I keep rewinding and replaying it, anyone else know what I mean?

I voted for loud cheering in between rallies btw...

[xflubb]

cheer anytime. encourage audience participation. otherwise there would be little point to going to a live badminton event. it's all in good fun anyways.

[Loh]

I prefer the stadium to come alive with noise, action and colour. It should be a cauldron of excitement, If the rules allow it, bring along your 'music- and noise-making' instruments, whether home-made or bought, paint your face, wear your team's fanciful colours or mascots, gang up to deliver a punchline or sing a chorus, fly your flag, dance on the aisle, enjoy yourself!

Badminton must be seen as entertainment, therefore spectators must feel that they have enjoyed themselves when they leave the stadium. The crowd should be allowed to join in the merry making uninhibited so long as they don't break the law. Let the umpire control the proceedings on court and make sure that the game runs smoothly.

Supporters should not hestitate to cheer their favourites, urge them on, cajole them to make a big smash, make noise to support their winning shots and for long and interesting rallies particularly in doubles, etc. Inhibit them and they will not enjoy themselves and they may not return to support the game. I rather have a noisy stadium than a dead and quiet one.

However, spectators must also learn to be more considerate and should not do things for long periods that may interfere with the viewing pleasure of those around them e.g. by consisitently standing up and blocking their view. But I would also urge those who prefer to be less active to be more understanding that a spillover of excitement and youthful exuberance is inevitable and they should learn to give and take, otherwise it may be better for them to stay home and watch the telly.

Make a badminton event an item of entertainment and expectation, a time for enjoying oneself, a place to be seen and heard, a meeting place for friends, relatives and acquaintances and a place to let go of one's emotions! :D

[MikeJ]

I guess it's to-each-his/her-own. :D It's true that badminton is not like golf, where the audience MUST be quiet while the players are hitting the ball.

I personally prefer to only cheer after rallies and to allow the players to concentrate during rallies by being quiet (but that's just my own preference).

I guess, like in the US or Indonesia, it's really just difficult to contain zeal and emotions when you really want your players to win.

Maybe the only taboo or forbidden thing to do is to distract the players by shouting "OUT" or "IN" or "FAULT" or by using light (e.g. flash from a camera, etc).

[wedgewenis]

When watching badminton

Crowd Noise is good! - but I also must hear the shuttle being hit :eek:

- the solution is just how the ppl covering it setup/capture the sound for the event.

[DaN_fAn]

When watching badminton

Crowd Noise is good! - but I also must hear the shuttle being hit :eek:

- the solution is just how the ppl covering it setup/capture the sound for the event.
Yes,i agree.Crowd noise btw and during the rallies infact add to the interest of watching a match..but definitely they should n't be that loud that i cant hear the Shuttle at all.Coz primarily i have come to watch a badminton match and enjoy myself.So,i would like it to be noisy during the rally[but not that noisy that i cant hear the shuttle sound at all] and after the rally anything will do.The crowd can scream their head off after the rally and i would n't mind.
So my vote is like ,btw options 1 and 2.

[YS_Po]

Loud is good but no yelling "OUT" or "IN" though. I think the loud cheering kept Howard going during the match. But he should definitely stop interacting with the crowd because he got warned twice.

Loud anytime is good. I esp like the ooowwaaa Azwok was talkin about..

You are not allowed to interact with the crowd?... hmm how did he interact?? :confused:

[aiyuuw]

i like loud, encouraging, expressive and energetic crowd!!!!:D

love it, wc crowd is awesome, as for indo open (which i attended last year) the crowd was energetic, but slightly rude to indonesian players' opponent

[ants]

The louder the better. Make the game more exciting. :)

[Andy05]

loudly! make lots of noise between and during rallies

I think getting a whole crowd behind you would be a big confidence boost. When the crowd is really cheering then it would make you up your game.
Also if the crowd puts you off then you obviously aren't 100% committed to the game. The top pros in any game should be able to play with noisy crowds or they shouldn't play, with all their training and practice ignoring a crowd should be easy.

[Eurasian =--(O)]

The louder the better. Make the game more exciting. :)

Ya noise and exictement make games better! No question about it! Imagine an NBA game with no one cheering... it would suck, no electrical atmosphere, it would be kinda lame.

[Cheung]

Have you guys seen it when one players smashes and the crowd shouts out together just as the player smashes? And if it's a winning smash they go wild?

I just love that :D

[red00ecstrat]

noise somehow was really annoying especially with those against u!
i remembered that there was a game (but forgot in which tournament). that was peter gade vs soni dwi kuncoro. peter's performance was pretty bad just because of the noise which was made by soni's fans during rallies.

[red00ecstrat]

forgot to mention. my vote's for "quiet, hand clapping between rallies. (eg. JPN open)"

[sjoe]

Loud or anything esle is fine but manner is important. Personnaly I don't like hooliganism like the sort of behaviour of some Indonesian supporters, abusing and intentionally blocking the other opposing supporters so to provoke confrontations, placing their banner infront of you to annoy you. I seen this alot and sat next to Indonesian supporters during Thomas Cup in KL, scary ! and poor 5 Danish fans with their flag was covered by a group of Indonesian supporter with their flag.

[Trance]

I think it should be loud to show support but sometimes during rallies it might be annoying. But of course if the rallies are exciting, who wouldn't get a little excited? :D

[eggyolk]

i choose "loudly, make noise only between rallies, stay quiet during rallies". For me, badminton is fun and intense sport. Crowd that making noise during rallies is also fine with me but it should've respect on the other side.

[Slammer]

yeah its fun:D

but not if you're the one who's making the mistakes.

[tze yang]

i think it shld b loud...coz i dnt think the players will hear anything during rallies as theyre concentrating hard at least its like tht for me...i only hear cheers or sounds between rallies

[harrycoomer]

If he continued he would have been expelled from the game.


Hi everyone,

I just finished my singing on Sunday and it was lots of fun. Hadn't sang for a long time and I do miss my fans. I was surprised the show up in Union Square was so plentiful. The people were warm and wonderful as always. The finalists were surprisingly good but I was disappointed the girls were not as good as the guys. I hope more girls will come out cos goodness knows we need them!

Being a crazed fan myself at the World Championships was also a very exciting experience for me. I didn't realise that watching these games would be so exhausting. We had excellent 2nd row middle isle seats so we were treated to a melee of phenomenal wrist control, ghostly footwork, jumping, smashing, cooolness, stamina, and estactic energy. It sucked the energy right out of me just watching it. I was a complete groupie being introduced to my IDOL PERSONIFIED "SIGIT Budiarto". Fortunately my friend was Indonesian and was able to translate our conversation and she even offered him my phone number much to my astonishment, but luckily I scrambled out of that one, but Sigit was kind enough to give me his number which I will forever put in my badminton historic archives but will never bother him with a call hopefully! Surprisingly, he was so shy he almost shrunk away from me! Can't imagine such ferocity on the court, is so quiet and gentle off. I met Zhang Ning who requested to get my photo but I was more happy to get hers. She is a joy to watch. Like Badminton Ballet, so graceful and floating, she even lost with such grace to the other girl, can't pronounce her name. What about the little miester from Taiwan? Her steely determination to beat all the odds clutched at everyones hearts. We got to talk to some of the players that lost and it was interesting to hear what they thought were the reasons and how truly disappointed they were as well as how they would do it different if they had the chance. The consensous was there was quite much wind blowing the ball and that made it especially challenging.

I had 11 friends with me altogether in ages from 13 to 76. ALL of us thought it was one of the most enjoyable and eye opening experiences for us (and we've seen alot!). To see atheletes of that calibre right in front of our eyes was truly amazing. Lin Dan lost, and America won! Lin Dan, a great fighter, but just not on that night. Maybe another time. I'm sure since he lost, losing to Taufik is worthwhile?? We all have our bad days. Tony did some AMAZING technical magic, but I'm sure Howard worked hard too cos he didn't want to let his partner nor America down, and together, they didn't! Does he matter if Howard bragged a little? I would think he has earned some bragging rights... (I don't understand how some people want to criticise Howard), but it's a free world. He did block so many shots and I'm sure with the pressure to do well, he did his very best and more.

On the whole, I will never forget the close up experience on WC and I hope I will have many more opportunities. Hooray to all the winners.... and ones who tried to win. At least they tried. he hee.. at our club I already see people with "Sigit" shots and Lin Dan smashes, some Taufikness and a few swollen ankles from trying to do the Tony thing. ha ha.. It's so cute to watch and just makes us love Badminton more and more and more......

Hope you all don't mind me just thinking aloud...

Sally

[cooler]

If he continued he would have been expelled from the game.

I'm against call for expulsion in that situation, it isn't detrimental to the opposing side(unless they make complaint)

I just wish umpire and service judges show more leniency on minor infraction that really doesnt impact the rally during crucial moment of the match (unless opponents makes complaint).
For example, lin dan vs peter gade, 3rd game, 11-12 for peter and servicing underhand, service judge faulted peter for servicing a bit too high. I dont think peter gained any advantages on this error but at this crucial moment of the game, it hurts peter way more than the illegal serve onto LD. Peter never recovered and lost that 3rd game 11-15. I believed that service call secured LD the win IMO.

As for howard's excitement on court, same thing, the umpire should give pause and warnings. I'm glad the MD final outcome wasn't determined by some frivolous penalty on howard.

Take hockey for example, during sudden death overtime, especially on big games, players can basically do illegal checking, punching, grabbing, highsticking, etc while the referee overlook them unless they are meant to injure and/or crucial to the game outcome.

[harrycoomer]

If you cannot handle a bad line call, the umpire ruling against you, the crowd booing or your oponent psyching you out, you should not be in the game.

Lin Dan for instance never had his head in the game against Taufik. After trailing 13-0 in the first game, you think he would change his tactics.

While admiring a braggadocio is a matter of taste, comparing a contact sport like Ice Hockey to Badminton is inappropriate. All the racquet sports are still gentlemanly (and womanly ) affairs. In Tennis they even say "quiet please" :).


I'm against call for expulsion in that situation, it isn't detrimental to the opposing side(unless they make complaint)

I just wish umpire and service judges show more leniency on minor infraction that really doesnt impact the rally during crucial moment of the match (unless opponents makes complaint).
For example, lin dan vs peter gade, 3rd game, 11-12 for peter and servicing underhand, service judge faulted peter for servicing a bit too high. I dont think peter gained any advantages on this error but at this crucial moment of the game, it hurts peter way more than the illegal serve onto LD. Peter never recovered and lost that 3rd game 11-15. I believed that service call secured LD the win IMO.

As for howard's excitement on court, same thing, the umpire should give pause and warnings. I'm glad the MD final outcome wasn't determined by some frivolous penalty on howard.

Take hockey for example, during sudden death overtime, especially on big games, players can basically do illegal checking, punching, grabbing, highsticking, etc while the referee overlook them unless they are meant to injure and/or crucial to the game outcome.

[wmb2002]

While admiring a braggadocio is a matter of taste, comparing a contact sport like Ice Hockey to Badminton is inappropriate.Yup, ice hockey is more like a brawl than a sport. Badminton, on the other hand, utilizes a multitude of athletic and mental skills without intentionally hurting the opponents. So, comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. :eek: ;)

[GGsally]

"If you cannot handle a bad line call, the umpire ruling against you, the crowd booing or your oponent psyching you out, you should not be in the game."

I think at that level, and the many years of training to get to that level, which most of us would never see the light of day, all players are quite ready for the challenges of all of the above. But I didn't know Howard was bragging. I kind of thought he was just wanting to get the crowd going and rooting for America. I kind of got caught in the hype too. I'm not even from America and I was rooting (is that right spelling) for them. I did see the umpire give him a talking, but thought Howard's reaction was very respectful. Maybe I know Tony and Howard and they are just such nice people so I want to root for them too. But I just have to say that I admire anyone that can even get near that kind of level. I suppose in any sport too, not just badminton.

I do agree that Lin Dan didn't seem to have too much fight in him, not like his game against Gate. I guess playing against Taufik is alot of pressure especially since Taufik seems the epitome of coooooollnessssss. Such admiration!!!

GGSAL

[cooler]

Yup, ice hockey is more like a brawl than a sport. Badminton, on the other hand, utilizes a multitude of athletic and mental skills without intentionally hurting the opponents. So, comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. :eek: ;)
u didnt get my point. :rolleyes:
I'm highlighting that in hockey, even potential game impacting infraction are sometime left uncall while in peter's case, it was a non-game cruical infraction and was called. This is about frivolous penalty calls, not about which sport has more body contact :rolleyes:

[cooler]

If you cannot handle a bad line call, the umpire ruling against you, the crowd booing or your oponent psyching you out, you should not be in the game.


If you can't handle howard's cheering to the crowd, YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE GAME.


oops, too late, another post :o

[TrunkZ69]

Wasn't the crowd at WC's nothing compared to a few asian countries? I thought the Malay. open and the Indo open were EXTREMELY loud!!! I have a few DVD's of them and the crowd is crrazzy loud. Though the players didn't try to get a rise out of the crowd, it was still louder than WC's. And i think they should be more leinent like Cooler said, esp during those really close games, you don't want to end the game on a sour note such as PG vs LD or the AE04 MD final.

[harrycoomer]

In particular one clowning around in a Malaysian flag and the Indonesian transvestite section (not sure why they are prominent in KL :) ).

[cooler]

Kwun (or other Mods), i suggest post #222 and onward from the thread

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22477&page=23&pp=10

be moved to here.

[GGrebecca]

In particular one clowning around in a Malaysian flag and the Indonesian transvestite section (not sure why they are prominent in KL ).

I hope you listen to the webmaster kwun and start a thread of your own to discuss your negative viewpoint of Howard Bach. People who share your views or who feel like debating you can then click on your thread. It was already unfortunate manner on your part to try to hijack the OCBC thread with your less-than-expert putdown of Howard.

[GGsally]

I don't know about the crowd cheering cos I've only been to 2 games in my life. One in Gwangchou and Anaheim, but I really was surprised there were still good seats to be sold even on August 18th for the last final games. Besides that, half the people there were people we knew!! 1/5 was from GGBC, I'm sure the others were from UBC and Smash City and OCBC or San Gabriel, then I even met 20 odd people whom I met while I was playing in VRC in Vancouver not to mention my VRC friends who were with me, greeting every 3rd person who came down the aisle cos they are buddies in VRC! So you can imagine the Badminton population here. BUT, thanks to Tony and Howard, I'm sure there will be a BIG upheaval in the game of Badminton and hopefully we will see much much greater audience number, therefore, your screaming fans, will arrive very soon! But I did scream so loud during the final game that we all lost our voice! Isn't that just so fun???

Sally

[kwun]

Kwun (or other Mods), i suggest post #222 and onward from the thread

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22477&page=23&pp=10

be moved to here.

suggestion taken... thanks.

[carlol]

Professional players should be mentally tough... loud cheers during rallies should not break their concentration. As the saying goes... if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

All things should have a limit though.... so actions directly affecting players such as camera flashes and throwing stuff into the playing area should be a no-no. I cannot imagine a Ron Artest vs the crazy crowd basketbrawl like incident ever happening in badminton though... :p

[cooler]

Professional players should be mentally tough... loud cheers during rallies should not break their concentration. As the saying goes... if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

All things should have a limit though.... so actions directly affecting players such as camera flashes and throwing stuff into the playing area should be a no-no. I cannot imagine a Ron Artest vs the crazy crowd basketbrawl like incident ever happening in badminton though... :p

no just only mentally tough but learn how to challenge external noise (cheering or booing) into your advantage over ur opponents

[hcyong]

Loud cheering during rallies is fine with me. If there is only one moment where there shouldn't be much noise, it is during service. Have you noticed that some people purposely make a loud noise (from some instrument) at the moment of service? That is unsporting.

If you insist on being quiet during rallies, what if there are four courts playing concurrently. Don't tell me the audience will have to quiet all the time.

However, it is not the decible of the cheering that is important. It is the manner of cheering that is important. For me, 2 things are important:
1. Cheer for your player, not against the opponent. Love is good. Hate is no good. Things like booing the opponent when he questions a line-call should be cut down.
2. Be sensitive to other spectators. Some instruments are extremely annoying, including those air-filled plastic clappers that are given out free. Do not keep banging on them. Also, if you stand up a lot of times, the people at the back will be annoyed.

[cooler]

i would be too busy focusing on their (pros) techniques and footwork to do any screaming ;) although i would be much louder in double match than single match

[seven]

I think the crowd should cheer lowdly all the time! :)
This is what makes the game so enjoyable, both for players and spectators!

Personally as a player, whether cheering for me or against me, the more noise the better! That's when I play best! ;)

[Loh]

I think the crowd should cheer lowdly all the time! :)
This is what makes the game so enjoyable, both for players and spectators!

Personally as a player, whether cheering for me or against me, the more noise the better! That's when I play best! ;)


Hi Seven, you seemed to have disappeared for a long while and there is total silence .... :confused:

But now you're back, we'll cheer loudly for you! :D

[seven]

Hi Seven, you seemed to have disappeared for a long while and there is total silence .... :confused:

But now you're back, we'll cheer loudly for you! :D

Hi Loh,

yes I have been quite silent recently... I've been quite busy and my internet at home is not working and I have less time to connect to BF... :(

Anyway, don't worry I'm still following the badminton world closely, and preparing my new season as a player too! :)

[cheekygen]

This is an interesting topic to be discuss on.. I think there is no specific way or method on how the crowd should cheer; whether it should be loud or quiet because each country/culture is different in cheering. Instead, it is the player's mentality; the way they think...will decide if the crowd helps them to perform better or worst...... because the presence of others could enhance or hinder the individual performances... this could be explain by :


- Social Facilitation - The enhancement of dominant responces due to the presence of others. The mere-presence of crowd will help to enhance the player's performance. Take Tony and Howard for example, Tony mentioned that he was very tired during the rubber game with Chandra and Sigit but the crowd's cheering and support help him to persevere.... this can be a very good example of social facilitation .

- Distraction-Conflict theory - When one is working on a task, the presence of others is distracting and this distraction produces a conflict between paying attention to the game and paying attention to the game. This is very common situation when players lose focus especially when the crowd booing and making noise. When the player is distracted, they cannot pay attention o their game and this hinder their performance on court. We can observe this kind of situation in team events such as Thomas and Uber Cup.


I would say that it really depends on how smart the player use the crowd for their advantage. We often heard that people play better at home because of home ground advantage... it could be right if the players are in-form.... what if they are not in-form, the distraction comes in with the worry of being judged (evaluation apprehention) by others and pressure to win in front of the home ground hinder their performance. The Thomas Cup 2000 in Malaysia is a good example of this situation where Malaysia team failed to do well even though the stadium was full of people.

Even when we play socially, the mere presence of others do effect how we play... guys play harder and even dive to take a shot when some cool girls is watching them play. Some might be too shy and get nervous when they realize some cool girls is watching them play, hence, hit all outside..... so it also depends on individual personalities as well.

[tobradex]

I say cheer loud, all the time. It pumps you up, brings you down etc etc. I don't know any action sport that the crowd is told to be quiet with the exception of tennis and golf.

I don't think badminton is anything like golf (tennis, mm ok maybe similar but not the same). I think crowd involvement enhances most sports.

In golf and tennis the crowd needs to stay quiet because they need to concentrait on a difficult task, they train in mostly quiet environments no? Movements distract them. But other than people walking close to the court I don't think it distracts a badminton player?

The only thing is maybe if you play doubles and you need to hear your partner yell "OUT!" or "MINE!" (in whatever language). But even then your crowd needs to be pretty loud to drown that out. I say shout out all the time. Make it fun to watch and play.

[$100 Dreams]

Have you guys seen it when one players smashes and the crowd shouts out together just as the player smashes? And if it's a winning smash they go wild?

I just love that :D

me too!! :p its like everyone is one big family for that moment!!

btw, i voted the first one!! :D

[w3wmfhe]

badminton isn't goft or tennis ..it is more like basketball or volleyball.
cheering for ur favorite or home player during the game , and making the game more enjoyable and hv fun

[-George-]

i think that cheering crowds is one of the features that make badminton unique-in a vast majority of sports people are expected to remain silent, take tennis for example. an excited badminton crowd creates an atmosphere like no other.

[demolidor]

Funny how most votes went to 2 and most comments are for 1. I'm telling you if you've seen videos of INA open you will definitely choose 1 :)
I know a lot of players would like some more enthousiasm so def. not 3 (like it is over here), that even looks boring on tv :p

[Lin Dan-Fan]

If he continued he would have been expelled from the game. I hate it when the player about to go up for a smash the crowd goes: "OOooooohhhhhhh UE!!" I HATE IT.

[Baderz_Jas]

I hate it when the player about to go up for a smash the crowd goes: "OOooooohhhhhhh UE!!" I HATE IT.

Well, I actually quite like it, but when it's too much, it's quite annoying! :mad: (when there's about 100 (:D hehe) smashes in the rally!:p

[jordenrocks]

At the club that I play at you might get a scattered applause, as for tornaments I agree that loud cheering in between rallys is fine.

[aZn_Popcorn]

i voted for "loudly! make lots of noises between and during rallies".
I think the crowd should be aloud to cheer as loud as they want as long as it doesn't get out of hand. This is what makes the game so enjoyable, both for players and spectators!

[Volts]

Definately lound, i love when my friends scream like crazy during matches it fun

[robc06]

Cheer between rallies, clap yell players names etc. Clap for both sides as well. When a good shot is hit, usually the is a automatic "ooooohhhh" from the crowd in awe of apreciation of the shot.

[olle_whitehead]

i have to say that i like quite (not silence) during rallies and especially just before serve because i like to think about many things while i'm getting ready to serve or recieve serve but as soon as the rally has ended i'd love to hear the place erupt normally i erupt on court aswell

[ProWhip]

I hate it when the player about to go up for a smash the crowd goes: "OOooooohhhhhhh UE!!" I HATE IT.


Oh i love that...It just adds to the tournament atomsphere. I think people should be able to cheer whenever, beacuse i think (at least for me) its more daunting when its dead silent, knowing everyone is watching you, than loud cheering and support. Cheering makes it funner (also pumps them up) for players, at least for some.

[All4Baddy]

Its better to be quiet when the game is on. Its kinda distracting when you are playing and yet you can't really hear your shots. After the point, you can be as noisy as you like.

[hara^kazuko]

Kenneth was interviewed after winning a match in Thomas Cup..

He said that he loves playing around Asian countries when the crowd goes emotionally with your game

While somewhere else the audience could be reading a book or ordering snacks

[wing-omega5-0]

i'd say loud noise is fine as long as nothing offensive is yelled to the players, about the players. still, i think the sound of the bird can also effect the rally because some players may use the sound to predict wut shot is coming at them in the next millisecond. so my vote is for noise in between rallies.

who knows, there may also be times when too much noise from one side of the arena can act as killer air conditioning pushing a well-done clear bkac towards the net as a drop :D.

[czarina]

i do believe that a silent audience will do because they are distracting the player although it improve self confidence audience need to have right manners in watching

[taneepak]

Badminton is not a game of chess. The earliest, purest form of game was the gladiators, fighting each other or with wild animals, to the death. What do you think the crowd was then? Today's Thomas Cup badminton matches, especially when they are played in Indonesia or Malaysia, have the same Roman spectators voicing their most basic instincts.

[event]

I hate it when the player about to go up for a smash the crowd goes: "OOooooohhhhhhh UE!!" I HATE IT.I love that. Some of the most fun I've ever had watching badminton was during the men's doubles at the Sydney Olympics when there was a huge Indonesian contingent cheering that way for every smash by Tony or Chandra. I lived alone then so I could cheer for Indonesia without fear of reprisal. Last year, there was just a small group of Indonesians at the finals in Incheon watching the nail-biter between Jens/Martin and Candra/Sigit but the volume was amazing. Korean fans can get pretty worked up, too, but they don't preface the smashes in the same way. I love the dynamic between crowd and defender in those situations because the defender is at turns warned of impending doom and deceived when the drop shot comes instead.

[jerby]

I really lvoe the atmosphere when everybody's shouting like that. Was greta to do at the EC (we had a small group, very fun)

the players hardly notice it though, 100% focus..and you'll always see the pro's thanking the croud, no matter what noise they make..What would a pro think if there're 2.000 people in a stadium, and everybody's just claps a little..like they're watching gras grow...

[badmad]

i guess making loud noise makes the game more entertaining.. i guess that noise shouldn't affect too much a players' performance because during the match, he is psychologically too much into thinking about points and the match and the title and the pride that noise wouldn't bother him much.

also, on and off noise would be more disturbing than a continuous sound... purely my opinion... :p

[badmad]

Badminton is not a game of chess. The earliest, purest form of game was the gladiators, fighting each other or with wild animals, to the death. What do you think the crowd was then? Today's Thomas Cup badminton matches, especially when they are played in Indonesia or Malaysia, have the same Roman spectators voicing their most basic instincts.

don't mind but this comparision is too neanderthal... i wont say that we want a game like one should be routed... certainly everyone wants to have a well balanced, exciting game in which his side should win... :)

[hara^kazuko]

That's what makes badminton unique from other racquet sports... the crowd is no less excited than the world cup's

[badmad]

That's what makes badminton unique from other racquet sports... the crowd is no less excited than the world cup's

in that way, wimbledon SUCKS!!!! on one hand, the rules and regulations of this tourney makes it more charming and on the other hand, it sucks big time... i won't be surprise when McEnroe was pissed after winning wimbledon and when Agassi refused to play wimbledon after denied to wear colored shirts and headband... :p so funny it wud hv been... atleast it's getting better in wimbledon these days...

other games like one-day Cricket (if u know), Baseball and mother of all sports , Soccer make u feel go all crazy, frenzied, excited and what not... (short on finding words to describe the feelings... :D :p)

[deROSE]

i suppose a little cheering will not do any harm.It does help to boost players' confidence.But too much does affect the players 'concentration.They tend to feel more pressure and then loose focus.hmmm..but i think i will go for the second choice.

[B Kwok]

I like the cheering between rallies but as a junior player I get parents and friends cheering for their player. This is fine but it really just ticks me off when they cheer every single time I make an unforced error. When they do this, I just think, either "shut up" lol or "do you know the game?" I know it's a little harsh but it is quite annoying.

[Dreamzz]

haha, it's only natural, i'm sure you'll get used to it and find that it won't bother you after a while.
one question though : where are your friends and family who should be cheering for you when your opponents make mistakes? :D

[macca]

i only play at club level - so im confined to sports halls and churches for the most part. I find it really off putting when you are playing in a 1 court hall, and absolutely everyone is dead silent whilst you're trying to serve.

[didierblack]

i love when its really loud and noisy!!!

[thatoneaznguy]

It's a major confidence builder when they're cheering for you, if they're cheering aganist you and no one's cheering for you, it just demoralizes you.
I know, I have experience.

[SystemicAnomaly]

The problem that I have with loud noises during a rally, for both tennis & badminton, is that players are likely to miss out on some important feedback. The sound a ball or shuttle makes when it contacts an opponent's strings can be very important information. Is is struck solidly or is it a mishit? Is it a brushed sound or was it hit squarely? How much spin was imparted?

Players react to these sounds both on a conscious & a subconscious level.

Even tho' light waves travel faster than sound waves, for events that are in our local vicinty we will actually respond to the sound before we react to the information we get from our eyes. This is because our aural (auditory) reaction time is considerably quicker than our visual reaction time. Sprinters hear & react to the sound of the starting pistol a lot quicker than their visual system can respond to the sight of the pistol firing.

To test this phenomenon, check out the link within the discussion below:
MyBrainTrainer.com/board/topic.asp?topic_id=496 (http://www.mybraintrainer.com/board/topic.asp?topic_id=496)


So my point is that, since our auditory reaction time is superior to our visual reaction time, it makes sense to be able to hear the sound of the shuttle on the opponent's strings so that we can make a quicker, more informed response to that contact. Loud crowd noises can mask some of this important feedback.

[westwood_13]

Canada Winter Games, it was deafeaning 100% of the time. Never had such fun playing.

I think the mental and adrenaline impact of the cheering has more of a positive effect, enough to outweight the deleterious effect of missing string-sound feedback.

[bayu_ir]

The problem that I have with loud noises during a rally, for both tennis & badminton, is that players are likely to miss out on some important feedback. The sound a ball or shuttle makes when it contacts an opponent's strings can be very important information. Is is struck solidly or is it a mishit? Is it a brushed sound or was it hit squarely? How much spin was imparted?

Players react to these sounds both on a conscious & a subconscious level.

Even tho' light waves travel faster than sound waves, for events that are in our local vicinty we will actually respond to the sound before we react to the information we get from our eyes. This is because our aural (auditory) reaction time is considerably quicker than our visual reaction time. Sprinters hear & react to the sound of the starting pistol a lot quicker than their visual system can respond to the sight of the pistol firing.

To test this phenomenon, check out the link within the discussion below:
MyBrainTrainer.com/board/topic.asp?topic_id=496 (http://www.mybraintrainer.com/board/topic.asp?topic_id=496)


So my point is that, since our auditory reaction time is superior to our visual reaction time, it makes sense to be able to hear the sound of the shuttle on the opponent's strings so that we can make a quicker, more informed response to that contact. Loud crowd noises can mask some of this important feedback.
silent or cheerfull, quiet or loud, just be ready if you play in Indonesia. This is not your own game, it's ours! :D. Be confident with your shoot and technique or you'll get "real time" course:p , cause we're all (almost) badminton players. Peace.

[BombaTwIsT]

loud during crazy rallies and in between rallies because i get momentum when the crowd cheers for me after doing a really nice shot, but if the crowd cheers for my opponent, it gives me momentum to turn things around and sometimes i do turn things around ;).

[_Badmint0n_]

I would defiently have to say loud between rallys, when i am playing i pefer quite because of all the distractions coming from all around me, its much easier to concentrate when its quite, but then when ur between rallies its nice to here people cheering for you =D

[SystemicAnomaly]

Badminton is not a game of chess. The earliest, purest form of game was the gladiators, fighting each other or with wild animals, to the death. What do you think the crowd was then? Today's Thomas Cup badminton matches, especially when they are played in Indonesia or Malaysia, have the same Roman spectators voicing their most basic instincts.

This is not really the case at all. Badminton, in its earliest forms (such as Poona), was usually a game of cooperation rather than competition. In this respect it might be likened to playing catch or doing footbag maneuvers in a circle. The game as we know it did not become competitve until the mid-19th century. Around the 1860s (?), the British military decided to add a barrier (a net) and some boundaries (often, an hourglass shape). It was only a century ago or so that the present rectangular boundaries became the standard.

I'll also take issue with the opening statement. Badminton is not exactly a game of chess -- but played at a skillful level, the strategy, especially for doubs, becomes rather chess-like in nature. I would not diminish the game by implying that it has nothing to do with strategy.

[SystemicAnomaly]

In case you missed it, the following link illustrates how important sound reflexes can be:

explorelearning.com/index.cfm?method=cResource.dspDetail&ResourceID=43 (http://www.explorelearning.com/index.cfm?method=cResource.dspDetail&ResourceID=43)

If you run this demo, you will undoubedtly discover that your ability to hear & react to a stimulus is considerbly faster than your ability to respond to the sight of a stimulus.

[JoeM.]

I think the crowd should be really loud, because i just love watching games with this amazing atmosphere :D
Even if i don't know how it really feels when you're playing, I prefer a loud crowd to the silence :D

In my opinion, the pros should be able do focus in the match and forget the crowd... if they can't, they shouldn't be a pro ;)

[Bobbert]

Loud noises between and during the rallies for the win! For some reason I play way better when people are watching me or cameras are pointed at me (Attention freak?). This might not be the case for everyone, but if many people are watching me and cheering, I tend to play much better and get way more into the game. As long as the people aren't shouting vile things or spewing insults at me or my opponent or anyone for that matter, I see no reason as to why it would really matter. If loud noises distract you then I would see why, but personally I find it more thrilling and exciting if someone goes OHHH when I smash.

[BombaTwIsT]

Loud noises between and during the rallies for the win! For some reason I play way better when people are watching me or cameras are pointed at me (Attention freak?). This might not be the case for everyone, but if many people are watching me and cheering, I tend to play much better and get way more into the game. As long as the people aren't shouting vile things or spewing insults at me or my opponent or anyone for that matter, I see no reason as to why it would really matter. If loud noises distract you then I would see why, but personally I find it more thrilling and exciting if someone goes OHHH when I smash.

this is also the same for me, it is very thrilling whenever people cheer for me during the rally, it tells me that im in control of the rally and that i decide whether the rally goes in my favor or their favor in most cases. (:

[markhamplayer]

As loud as possible when I'm winning!
Keep very quiet when I'm losing!

[xXHilikusXx]

loud ftw, just dnt shout my name, i hate it when ppl shout my name its very distracting

[RiZzSs]

I'm danish and i am very sad about the way danes cheer. They almost only clap their hands and maybe shout once in a while. For me the "ideal" cheering is the asian way to do it!! they cheer on both of the players, even tho it might be an european and an asian player!! They cheer to get the best match, not to make one of the players play bad!! I have also observed that in the asian tournaments, theres always a nice atmosphere!! I hope it will become that way to in Europe, and Denmark!!:)

[virus]

I think all badminton fans should act like football fans without violence and destruction etc.

[Smichz]

Noise? Ever heard of home court advantage? That's the whole point. :p

Totally agree with u!:)..totally discouraging the opponents.Sad but true..as long as they're not "booing" too hard n of course,no violence."Jia you,jia you" or "malaysia boleh" or something like that wont do any harm..:)
But the perfect one will be clapping for a good game,both side,not only for their side..

[Smichz]

As loud as possible when I'm winning!
Keep very quiet when I'm losing!

Agree with u as well..:D

[ammatuerplayer]

Cheer will distract the player
so-just dead and silence

[azabaz_ipoh]

a sport competition with dead silent fans are, how you say it, DEAD! there's the cheers that distract the players and then there is the cheers that motivates the players. and all this will play a part in their mental strength. imagine all sport competitions with silent spectators. what is the use of being there in the first place? the beauty of it is the emotional investment in the watching of a good match. and when you are emotional, you have to scream, and shout, and groan, and whatever noise is appropriate at the moment :D but no noise at all will be a bore. :)

[hiroisuke]

I love silent matches. They're hard to find, and it's easier to lose yourself in the match, just you (and maybe your partner) and your opponent(s) and the game. It's much more enjoyable, because it's just so incredibly serene and enjoyable without interruptions or anything like that.

[maron]

Professionals are professionals and they really should already know how to play in a noisy environment afterall its a sport and ultimately the fans are the ones paying and supporting the sport for any sport to be commercilly successful. Realistically and ideally the fans really have every right to cheer in ways they feel like as long as its not interrupting the play. In most professional sports in US, fans can "almost" say anything and cheer any time they want. Many times fans will talk directly to opponents and putting them down verbally. But guess what, the game goes on and the players keeps going. Whether thats right or wrong, it's now part of almost all professional games.

I believe we all want badminton to be a major sport one day and we all want to be treated as equals when compared to basketball, baseball, football and hockey. So there may be a time when we have to sit down and decide if we are any more "special" than other sport where a fan must remain virtually silent for a special periods of time.

I strongly agree with your opinion :) I think professionals are already an expert at adjusting themselves in a noisy environment. Actually concentrating ability is one of the most important skills that professionals should acquire. In addition, environment where fans can express their excitement is a crucial part of sports to become a major sports and develop commercially :D

Also, when competitive rally is going on, the audience tend to keep silent automatically to focus themselves on the game. :)

[Polar Bear]

Loud between rallies only. As a spectator I want to hear the action as well as watch it. That is experience the match as completely as possible. Heck, if they're going to allow noise during the rally at events then they should at least serve alcohol and make it really entertaining.

[Polar Bear]

As loud as possible when I'm winning!
Keep very quiet when I'm losing!


Opposite for me. I want it quiet when I'm winning so I don't lose my focus and as loud as possible when I'm losing so nobody can hear me swearing.

[Xinguy]

For me i wont mind anything but if it is loud during rallies like ina open, But if the crowd are supporting me it would be better for me yes although there's pressure during the game but it would be a very fun game to play:D
& it would be good if i win the match double bonus:D

[Xinguy]

Cause i've been in this situation before:D half of the crowd supporting me while the other half supporting my opponent, Like team event tournament is actually quite fun to play:) but of cos u must be in good form haha:p

[Loh]

Loud between rallies only. As a spectator I want to hear the action as well as watch it. That is experience the match as completely as possible. Heck, if they're going to allow noise during the rally at events then they should at least serve alcohol and make it really entertaining.

Bottles might be thrown at the opposing players! This migjht incite a fight between opposing supporters! Others caught in between may want to escape. The herd instinct could cause a stampede, all hell may break loose and casualties could result. Examples can be found in soccer!

No there is a limit and the organizers must take the necessary precautions to prevent such incidents.

By and large, spectators are quite okay, even the boisterous ones. Most also want to enjoy a good rally between the players and they tend to be quieter during those moments. The unruly ones may get unfriendly stares from others! ;)

[Polar Bear]

[quote=Loh;744778]Bottles might be thrown at the opposing players! This migjht incite a fight between opposing supporters! Others caught in between may want to escape. The herd instinct could cause a stampede, all hell may break loose and casualties could result. Examples can be found in soccer!

No there is a limit and the organizers must take the necessary precautions to prevent such incidents.

Actually the Alcohol thing was a joke but, they could do what stadiums in the US do and serve it it plastic cups.

[Oldhand]

loud ftw, just dnt shout my name, i hate it when ppl shout my name its very distracting
If xXHilikusXx is what they need to shout, I don't think you need to be worried about being distracted :eek:
I can't even pronounce it, much less shout it :confused:

[Loh]

If xXHilikusXx is what they need to shout, I don't think you need to be worried about being distracted :eek:
I can't even pronounce it, much less shout it :confused:

Yah, very, very difficult to pronounce ... zzzzz zzzz????

Actually he should feel proud cause the audience may think someone new is playing on court! ;)

[Oldhand]

If xXHilikusXx is what they need to shout, I don't think you need to be worried about being distracted :eek:
I can't even pronounce it, much less shout it :confused:


Yah, very, very difficult to pronounce ... zzzzz zzzz????

Actually he should feel proud cause the audience may think someone new is playing on court! ;)
Try saying it... and you'll end up hissing :D
It would sound as if a dozen snakes had been let loose among the audience :p

[Polar Bear]

Ok this post is sort of a combination reply to crowd noise in between action and another thread talking about the breaks in the flow of the game due to line call verifications.

In hockey when there is a break in the action an organ player starts playing music to 'rev up' the fans. (In more modern arenas they just play recorded music). I know it sounds dumb but you have to remember if the goal is to sell this game in N. America you are dealing with millisecond attention spans. So it's either music or scantily clad cheerleaders. Personally I'd go with the cheerleaders. I can always bring my Ipod! :D

[Oldhand]

Ok this post is sort of a combination reply to crowd noise in between action and another thread talking about the breaks in the flow of the game due to line call verifications.

In hockey when there is a break in the action an organ player starts playing music to 'rev up' the fans. (In more modern arenas they just play recorded music). I know it sounds dumb but you have to remember if the goal is to sell this game in N. America you are dealing with millisecond attention spans. So it's either music or scantily clad cheerleaders. Personally I'd go with the cheerleaders. I can always bring my Ipod! :D

I don't think you need cheerleaders, scantily clad or not, when certain Japanese and Korean women players are around... :p
They are distracting enough :D

[yippo888]

its nice to have support wen ur playing!wen u know people r cheering 4 u!and also knowing they r enjoying the match......the only intolerable thing is the damn out call from a spectator!but since wen did a badminton player ever trust another persons judgement?even if my doubles partner shout out....i wudnt blindly leave it....i wud use my own judgement.....(cuz hes usually wrong:p) but still.

and as a player in generally loud aswell......shout yes, or cumon after u win a rally. or encourage myself and partner when wer behind....wen the crowd see ur into it....they get more into it.

[koo_fan]

kkk doesnt need that.
we cheered for him,he'll make the blurred face.

he may appreciated that support off-court.
well.. he did smile to the fans.after the game.

[viral52]

well I think this is a tough question. because if you are getting cheered at you would get more encouraged...but...soe people would find it quite distracting.
So, the solution to that would be that do what the person playing wants.(loud/quiet)

ps.not sure if this would help

[koo_fan]

well I think this is a tough question. because if you are getting cheered at you would get more encouraged...but...soe people would find it quite distracting.
So, the solution to that would be that do what the person playing wants.(loud/quiet)

ps.not sure if this would help
ask them personally????
is that possible?

[Winston_T]

louder and louder. that's good for the players

[jchan04]

loud is the excitment! it gets players pumped up and they'll try hard. in professional badminton, at match point; its common to see a player hand gesturing to the crowds to cheer him/her on.

[Sleepy]

Badminton is Badminton, distracting cheers should not be blended into the game!Cheerings between rallies are ideal, no mater how loud they are, I mean after all, we are all badminton FANS who paid to see the exciting game. "Whoooo Ahhhh!!!!" during smashes should be elminiated. It's badminton, not Karl Malone posting a FT in an NBA game!

Spot on. It just seems unsporting to make noise during play. I always feel sorry for rugby or football players have a constant noise to distract them.

[Louisa]

I vote for make noise between rallies...but somehow, it is interesting to do 'ohhh', 'ahh' in the rallies, especially when smashing...hahahaha...I like that

[viral52]

ask them personally????
is that possible?
good point---thats why i said its a tough question

[BlankShot]

I'm used to playing in a loud environment. LOUD PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE ;O

[demolidor]

So .... has this years Thomas & Uber Cup changed any opinions? :p How can anyone possibly not vote for option #1 ;).

[limsy]

it was depend on the player mentaly...i will not affect by crowd...

[CHOcobo]

crowd should make noise when ever they want. just like basketball and football. basketball courts gets really noisy especially near end games.

[ssertere]

loud... louder and louder....

[phandrew]

I prefer a bit of sound but not dead quiet. It feels creepy playing badminton in a place with no sound apart from the sound of shuttlecock being hit.

[Woody]

I am a Line Judge and worked in the cauldron of the recent Thomas/ Uber Cup Finals in Jakarta and wish to comment about playing when there is a loof noise.

The crowd who were extremely knowledgable about badminton got behind any team particularly if Malaysia were playing as they did not want them to win at any cost. They were singing in tune by the thousands most of the time and shouted ooh! when their own player hit the shuttle or aah! when the opponent played their stroke.

This noise was continuous throughout most of the matchs and if there were Indonesian players on court then the roof lifted off at every stroke.

Did any of the players from either side take any notice of the noise?

Not a bit. In fact if the volume subsided a little then the players made gestures towards the crowd to lift the volume.

I had to sit with ear plugs in both ears to protect my hearing as the crowd were at full volume less than 0.5 metres behind me. Could I (or any of the players) hear the Umpire who was using a microphone. Absolutely not. We as line judges had to rely on lip reading and following the score then following set procedures.

This was a fabulous atmosphere and if the top players in the World can cope with this level of noise then I am sure that any of us mere mortals should just shu up and put up with what we see as noise.

[Chiku]

louder is better... can burn up ur fighting spirit...:)

[phandrew]

louder is better... can burn up ur fighting spirit...:)

Then why not play at a rock concert then:D:D:D

[Chiku]

haih...at rock concert, the noise r differ than noise make fr games spectators la bro...:rolleyes: am prefer all the spectators are cheer leader...:D:D

[N4ruto]

I like it loud as in Option 1. Badminton is great this way.

[14players]

Just like tennis game,
When the players are not (yet) playing,
Its okay for the crowd to make alot of noise to support the players.

When they are about to play, or playing,
The crowd should keep their big mouth shut.

In some countries their Courts do not have crowd control/discipline.
Local Policemen are the best people to handle these situation.
Referees/players are at a risk to tell the crowd to keep quiet.

Even watching the game at home, I have to tune down the volume down and up a afew times.
This is my personal opinion.

[Woody]

I will pose a series of questions for BC'ers?

If you are faced with an 8-10,000 shouting singing, screaming crowd as there was in jakarta for the recent TUC finals how do you propose that they are stopped?

Yes the auditorium had some 600 Police and Military personnel in the vicinity to provide a general security blanket for the event. What do you want them to do to stop the crowd making the noise at the wrong time?

Eject people from the crowd?

Do you want them to use physically force?

Do you want them to draw their guns and escort people from the hall?

What would happen if the Police/ Military did any of the above?

I can tell you there would be a complete riot with a lot of bloodshed.

Do the players take any notice of the noise?

Of course they do not, it is quite common to see players wave their arms at the crowd to encourage them to cheer and make a noise.

[cooler]

i think the armed guards are there to protect the umpire and line judges in case the crowd don't like their call:p:p:p

[ctjcad]

..there are some BCers, in the crowd, who watched those matches and in some cases might not agree with the umpires' or line judges' calls...;)

[N4ruto]

Maybe out of topic a little, but recently in the US Open (tennis), Novak Djokovic got distracted by the crowd when he tried to serve. They were shouting and this really annoyed him. He lose the game and went on to lose the match to Roger Federer. However, we do not see this in badminton. Professional badminton players seems to be unfazed by the crowd. :)

[Shifty]

Maybe out of topic a little, but recently in the US Open (tennis), Novak Djokovic got distracted by the crowd when he tried to serve. They were shouting and this really annoyed him. He lose the game and went on to lose the match to Roger Federer. However, we do not see this in badminton. Professional badminton players seems to be unfazed by the crowd. :)

tennis players need to toughen up:p:p:p australian archers deliberately train with people actively trying to distract them. helps their concentration.

[Danstevens]

Noise between rallies is fine, but I prefer dead silence when I'm playing. The snooker approach wouldn't be bad either. Clapping at good shots/rallies but keeping quiet for the majority of the time.

[EasyJazzy]

What about using music instrument ? Drum, cymbals, trumpet ?
that's quite annoying.

i prefer noise beetween rallies.

[TNBRE]

I don't think loud is a good thing for when people are playing (even in between rallies). The reason for this is because it might a) make the guy who's the butt of all of the insults from the crowd nervous (and might not make for a good match) or b) make the guy who's getting all the praise nervous and make him mess up. Just my opinion.

[koo_fan]

Maybe out of topic a little, but recently in the US Open (tennis), Novak Djokovic got distracted by the crowd when he tried to serve. They were shouting and this really annoyed him. He lose the game and went on to lose the match to Roger Federer. However, we do not see this in badminton. Professional badminton players seems to be unfazed by the crowd. :)
When djokovic couldnt absorbed the pressure,that 's his problem.Got nothing to do with the audience.Correct me if i was wrong.I think the audience payed for the game.
Nature of fans is to support and cheered.If an athlete declared himself a pro,act like one.

[K4mu1]

Even when I'm playing, I would always prefer loud and crazy one! Why? These crowds get me fired up, even in the rally. Silent crowd makes me lost my fighting spirit T.T... Crowds in my School is just as crazy as number 1! (Loud in rallies, but sometimes they're suddenly becoming silent)

[krisss]

My personal opinion on this :D :

I think that most of the time the crowd should be reasonably quiet , clapping and cheering at good shots sometimes in the rallys , clapping between the rallies aswell.

But sometimes isn't it good , when the rally is massive , and everyone cheers before the smashes?

I think overall the sounds should be limited whilst the players are serving etc... , and that the majority of rallies people stay at a reasonable level.

But sometimes when the rallies are just that bit more extra special people can cheer :D

[Krisna]

INA fans make loud noises at all times anywhere on earth... I saw INA fans [probably from the Indonesian Embassy there] shout loudly throughout the match in the Russian Open [Moscow].... :p ... at the Athens Olympics and in the Sydney Olympics too... INA fans all share the same code of conduct.

We bring Istora to you, wherever you are... :D

[Oldhand]

Rarely has an army or a warrior fought wrapped in silence :p
Without (a lot of) sound, a contest would lose its excitement.

[Nuetronist]

I really like the crowd cheering in between rallies, but during a rally, I think it would be better for the crowd to stay quite - however, after smashes and other special things I think crowds can make short bursts of noise, because after all, its a crowd, and people want to get excited =D

So I guess my opinion is make noise, but don't be obnoxious or overly disctractive about it.

[koo_fan]

AE' this year is quite loud.
Like it that way.

[riz125]

i went to all england on the 5th of March. have to say was impressed with all our asian people cas we all were very loud but all the english people were too quite. i think you need to cheer your teams to support them and incourage them. so i think loud is deffinetly thumbs up but i think you should only be loud in between rallies like Tennis. well thats my opinion : )

[Zabee]

well it's great that badminton was overwhelming ...let's hope one day it can match the football crowds

[hellopanda3]

When I voted, I voted that fans should stay quiet in between rallies like tennis. (I'm also a tennis player and I watch a lot of tennis)
But then I realized, that cheering when players are smashing or when there is a really good rally is somewhat unique to badminton. (Although I am an avid ping pong player, I do not watch ping pong competitions so I don't know how the fans are in ping pong.)
Badminton as it is right now has a really fun atmosphere and as a player, I would want the fans to be drawn to the match.

To the people that say that the fans should cheer in between rallies:
Although this may be ideal, but in many (all) badminton tournaments, matches are going on right next to each other. It's not like each rally is finishing at the exact same time. Yes, in between rallies would still decrease the noise, but it's not like the fans are cheering to distract the players. They are cheering to root for their player(s).

Country pride runs strong.

[hellopanda3]

well it's great that badminton was overwhelming ...let's hope one day it can match the football crowds

I hope badminton will get larger, but I don't know about football crowds.
How will all of them fit?
They won't be able to see the match.
The court is too small.
Yes, I know you didn't really mean football crowds.
Or did you?
Ha.
No, but seriously, I want to see the day where badminton players start earning more.

[Zabee]

well i watch quite a lot Football or i should say Soccer games & the rord play a big part , they cheer , clap , dance & what so evr crazy stuff can be seen too hahaha....for e.g. when Messi or Kaka showing thier skills everyone whethere they are supporting the home or away sides wil get excited..i don't know bout Badminton but certainly Soccer have lots of Drama in it......we should even given C. Ronaldo an Oscar during 06 World Cup for his provocation action..

[kkliong]

laud.......
woooooo
haiiii yaaaaa

[Zabee]

erm that's more like martial arts movies sounds.............

[bradmyster]

LOUD!!!!! gets you fired up when you hear the croud and you know it gives you that edge when the atmosphere is pumping :)

I love it!!!

[Nextech0]

Loud noise in between rallies. It can be distracting during a rally to have 1 person yelling at you; I can't imagine a massive crowd yelling at you.

Of course, the gasps and cries of awe when a player makes am amazing shot are perfectly ok. :p

[bradmyster]

i find i zone out during a rally. Im concentrating purely on the shuttle and my oppononent and what im doing rather than listening or watching spectators around the court.

SO LOUD LOUD LOUD!!! so i can stop and hear when the points over :D

[awanxbaia]

Loud... To make player spirit high enough....

[Aeries]

I don't like it quiet. It makes me think that everyone is staring intensely at you, their eyes burning into your body, which makes me feel nervous and uncomfortable :P

But i don't like it really loud either like everyone is yelling and talking about all sorts because it makes my mind wander to what they're talking about. When i was younger i used to have a bad habit of daydreaming, and things like an interesting conversation nearby distract me haha :P

But i do like encouraging yells and the 'ooohs' and 'aaahs' because it fires me up and makes me want to play to the best of my ability :) And it makes me feel like people are interested in watching me play which feels so good :D

[OConnell]

I do think too much noise may disturb the game and the players' concentration. Anyway, cheers in between rallies is always welcomed:D

[Zabee]

correct....i think it'sa individual problem don't always blame it on others...

[Amin Khalili]

I read some thread(about cheating If Im not wrong) , they say that some crowded only support for their player only . Sometime they disturb the opponent when playing(like out,in and etc.......) . Well , my question is , do this big national tournament have problem like this?
BTW , I follow my mood . Sometime keep silent , sometime loud when rally and sometime loud all the time(chaiyo,chaiyo!) .

[Zabee]

it's almost the the same in any sports .. take example of football many aware that racial issues does exsits..

[gamepurpose]

sorry for being of the subject, but what is chaiyo, chaiyo mean?
I think that's wat people yell in one of those chinese badminton matches on youtube.

[ctjcad]

sorry for being of the subject, but what is chaiyo, chaiyo mean?
I think that's wat people yell in one of those chinese badminton matches on youtube.
..they yell this out:
http://community.travelchinaguide.com/forum2.asp?i=46902

[ajack]

I would make as loud as possible between rallies, but stay quite in the other time. Keeping silence also helps player to focus on their games.

In Yonex Sunrise Vietnam Open, many Vietnamese people tried to yell whenenver Tien Minh began smashing to support him. It was just not fair with Chong Wei Feng and the other opponent.

Why aren't any pros use iPod when playing badminton? :D

[kakinami]

The sport needs some drunken badminton hooligans... :p

THAT IS MEEH!!!!

[ctjcad]

...your lungs emptying blares and cheers for the Nippon players during the 2007 U.S. Open...they still kinda reverberate in my ears..:eek::p ;)

[chrisnchips]

approve of a loud crowd as long as they're not using those air-horns...

ok:
-drums
-thunder sticks
-vocals
-etc.

[chrisnchips]

Why aren't any pros use iPod when playing badminton? :D
because they may need to dodge shuttles that are too flat/high and are going out, perhaps?? :rolleyes::confused:

[jug8man]

Beware the Vuvuzela?

The Vuvuzela cometh!!!

[KYW917]

Once, my teammates were playing doubles against another school, and it was an Away game. One of my teammates did a great drop shot, it hit the ground, and then the opponent hit it back over. But the crowd, just started cheering because they thought it was a good, legit net shot. We protested, but the point counted just because the crowd cheered, so everyone assumed it was a good shot.

[porroy]

Its an awesome experienced watching badminton games when the crowd was also into the game, aside from watching the game itself, fans' reaction were just another show itself.... LOL

[aaronhor]

I enjoy the atmosphere for any badminton events held in Indonesia or Malaysia. The crowd are always so supportive. Though they make a lot of noise, but it is really very enjoyable.
http://www.badmintonclip.blogspot.com/

[Avenger]

I love the atmosphere in Indonesia
it feels pretty lively and tense (Especially in finals)
I love how Indonesian supporter shout habisin! habisin! habisin! (habisin means finish him / her / them)

or when they use (what is it? 2 sticks and you hit those two stick and produce "bam" sound)
it's like: IN-DO-NE-SIA bambam bambam bam IN-DO-NE-SIA bambam bambam bam


sorry for being of the subject, but what is chaiyo, chaiyo mean?
I think that's wat people yell in one of those chinese badminton matches on youtube.

chia you is.. (kinda hard to explain)
it is like, saying "lift up your spirit!"
to encourage them
to cheer them, something like that

[Gicutzu]

chia you is.. (kinda hard to explain)
it is like, saying "lift up your spirit!"
to encourage them
to cheer them, something like that

Is this the same thing that table tennis players yell when they win a point (I've heard badminton players yell it as well, some Japanese ones)? Although that sounds more like "cho"...

[Avenger]

Is this the same thing that table tennis players yell when they win a point (I've heard badminton players yell it as well, some Japanese ones)? Although that sounds more like "cho"...

maybe you mean "yosh(a)" ?
that's japanese expression, it is like saying "yes!" when you win a point

[Gicutzu]

maybe you mean "yosh(a)" ?
that's japanese expression, it is like saying "yes!" when you win a point

It's definitely more like "cho" or "sho" or something like that. Asian (mostly Chinese) and some European players shout it in table tennis, and some Asian and even some European players shout it in badminton (or something that sounds just like it), when they win a point.

[Novitano]

As long as its for support, could be as loud as you want. Once you cross into being mean-spirited towards the other team or person (the one you're not supporting), then it becomes rather annoying. But it can serve to motivate you too.

I recall one situation like that, we managed a 2-1 comeback after losing the first game. The silence of the crowd due to disbelief (I'm guessing we were underdogs), was just beautiful. (;

[demolidor]

:D Can we rent them for the Japan Open?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=82rS6SLgrJQ#!