View Full Version : Cheers Asian (Singapore) Satellite 2005


msenghl
09-06-2005, 10:08 AM
The competition is now on till 11th Sep. Venue is Singapore Badminton Hall. Website is:

http://www.singaporebadminton.org.sg/horizon/110897649405ibsi06main.htm

Sealman
09-08-2005, 09:24 PM
Today is quarterfinals day.

Quite surprised that Xing Aiying (No. 1) is seeded higher than Li Li (No. 2) for the WS.

What happened to our Singapore No. 1 fan aka BC Singapore photographer? Loh, where are you.......? :D

Jansenkzh
09-09-2005, 02:56 AM
Only Kendrick, WIEMPIE Mahardi, Erwin make it.... malaysia are really good. Xing AIying and lili make it only... i think why those male single nv make it because of not being full time players. Most of them are quite young. Anyone going to watch tmr?

indo_gal
09-09-2005, 06:54 AM
Only Kendrick, WIEMPIE Mahardi, Erwin make it.... malaysia are really good. Xing AIying and lili make it only... i think why those male single nv make it because of not being full time players. Most of them are quite young. Anyone going to watch tmr?


can i still get the ticket tml???

kyiyu
09-09-2005, 08:24 AM
I dont really understand why our top-notch players playing in Satellite rather than more prestigeous game. :confused:

Kedrick, Xi Aiying, Lili, Li YiJia whom apparently in top 20 in world rank should play in Asian Game so that they can gain more experience and be useful when they encouter really top players.

I am no longer suprise when they were thrashed out by low rank players in world classed game depite thier suprerity of ranks. Lili was pushed out by young and unknown chinese girl in Malaysia Open and China Master.

Good to garner the points from satellite to elevate the word ranking. But they should not always playing. Without any exposure in good game, world rank is nothing and can't live with the status. :(

And endless comment of our team official or coach stating with complacent remarks of "satisfactory, upto expectation or improving etc..." at every end of the tounarment.

I noted thier comment about Ronald's progress when he beat a few players in Surdiman Cup 2005 as "satifactory imprvement". I see the point otherwise. What kind of improvement can be expected from age of Ronald (26+ years old) where Chinese player would have retired and become a coach.

I would rather see and cheer fresh Singaporeans should participate in this kind of satellite game and not any of our players who are in the world ranking of 20.

What a dissapointment!!!!!:mad:

msenghl
09-09-2005, 08:37 AM
I agree with kyiyu, but my guess is that Cheers or SBA wants SG players to win local competition.

Jansenkzh
09-09-2005, 09:40 AM
I now see the point why Loh said local talent are not enough. No matter how good the players are, they won't be as good as the oversea talent which is quite true. Singapore can't even win malaysia, we can't expect to see miracle happening when its against china or indo or thai. :( But anyway still wishes singapore team to work harder. :o

madbad
09-09-2005, 10:39 AM
... Singapore can't even win malaysia, we can't expect to see miracle happening when its against china or indo or thai.

Huh?? You are implying that Thailand is stronger than Malaysia??

Jansenkzh
09-09-2005, 10:44 AM
It might be true in long term. Thailand players are hopeful. :p If you see the young thailand students play, you might have the same thinking as me.

Huh?? You are implying that Thailand is stronger than Malaysia??

madbad
09-09-2005, 10:56 AM
It might be true in long term. Thailand players are hopeful. :p If you see the young thailand students play, you might have the same thinking as me.

I think in the next 5 years or so, Malaysia will be way stronger than the Thais in the men's game. I cannot think of a strong singles player or doubles pair beyond their respective No. 1s. Malaysia on the other hand have strong and young players doing resonably well (3 doubles pairs, Kuan Beng Hong for example). The women's game is another story as Malaysia has been traditionally weak. However there is a glimmer of light.

Jansenkzh
09-09-2005, 10:57 AM
Its free entrance.

can i still get the ticket tml???

Jansenkzh
09-09-2005, 11:01 AM
I agree, but it seem both countries are improving rapidly. Thailand players in the mix double were quite good as can be seen in singapore open. Msia will be about the same or better i think.

I think in the next 5 years or so, Malaysia will be way stronger than the Thais in the men's game. I cannot think of a strong singles player or doubles pair beyond their respective No. 1s. Malaysia on the other hand have strong and young players doing resonably well (3 doubles pairs, Kuan Beng Hong for example). The women's game is another story as Malaysia has been traditionally weak. However there is a glimmer of light.

wl2172
09-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Singapore can't even win malaysia, we can't expect to see miracle happening when its against china or indo or thai. :( But anyway still wishes singapore team to work harder. :o

lol...you must be joking right, to think that thai is stronger than Malaysia?

You forgetting about Lee CW, Hafiz, Wong Choong Hann, Kuan Beng Hong, Sairul, Roslin....and thats just singles.

Perhaps i can list our MD pairs as well, but please go check the world rankings :p. If i am not wrong, Mal have 4 in the top 20. I find it quite insulting that you think Malaysian badminton are pushovers.

What you are seeing in Cheers are 3rd liners juniors, and are not true representation of the Mal strength. Perhaps substituting Thai with Denmark or South Korea would be more appropriate.

As far as badminton goes, there are 5 main powers at present: China, Indonesia, Denmark, Malaysia and South Korea.


http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=7

xijiayu
09-10-2005, 08:27 AM
Malaysia is in the MD final against Korea. Hope they can win this time.

Jansenkzh
09-10-2005, 08:29 AM
I mean in time to come, but not to be too bias :)

lol...you must be joking right, to think that thai is stronger than Malaysia?

You forgetting about Lee CW, Hafiz, Wong Choong Hann, Kuan Beng Hong, Sairul, Roslin....and thats just singles.

Perhaps i can list our MD pairs as well, but please go check the world rankings :p. If i am not wrong, Mal have 4 in the top 20. I find it quite insulting that you think Malaysian badminton are pushovers.

What you are seeing in Cheers are 3rd liners juniors, and are not true representation of the Mal strength. Perhaps substituting Thai with Denmark or South Korea would be more appropriate.

As far as badminton goes, there are 5 main powers at present: China, Indonesia, Denmark, Malaysia and South Korea.


http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=7

jug8man
09-10-2005, 08:33 AM
SORRY TO ANNOUNCE THIS

but kendrick has fallen to the great indonesian defence of Jeffer Rosobin.

the however is still hope for singaporeans as Wiempie Mahardi has made it into the finals keeping the Singapore flag hope alive in the MS category.


cheers

8man

Jansenkzh
09-10-2005, 08:58 AM
If Kendrick would to have lost to Rosobin, i doubt Mahardi would be able to make it also. :crying::crying: But anyway, i wish him all the best.

SORRY TO ANNOUNCE THIS

but kendrick has fallen to the great indonesian defence of Jeffer Rosobin.

the however is still hope for singaporeans as Wiempie Mahardi has made it into the finals keeping the Singapore flag hope alive in the MS category.


cheers

8man

shawn30_k
09-10-2005, 09:43 AM
i agree with you on this.malaysia have doubles heros who are capable of challenging top pairs like the indonesians and koreans.ranking is of not much help really.many more talented people are rank below other who are less talented as them.thailand only have their mix doubles pair but then again most of malaysias shuttler are young and bright.and young talent has been constantly flowing in,so in 5 years time we will see.i think malaysia will be better in the team competitions.lol...you must be joking right, to think that thai is stronger than Malaysia?

You forgetting about Lee CW, Hafiz, Wong Choong Hann, Kuan Beng Hong, Sairul, Roslin....and thats just singles.

Perhaps i can list our MD pairs as well, but please go check the world rankings :p. If i am not wrong, Mal have 4 in the top 20. I find it quite insulting that you think Malaysian badminton are pushovers.

What you are seeing in Cheers are 3rd liners juniors, and are not true representation of the Mal strength. Perhaps substituting Thai with Denmark or South Korea would be more appropriate.

As far as badminton goes, there are 5 main powers at present: China, Indonesia, Denmark, Malaysia and South Korea.


http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=7

indo_gal
09-10-2005, 10:00 AM
SORRY TO ANNOUNCE THIS

but kendrick has fallen to the great indonesian defence of Jeffer Rosobin.

the however is still hope for singaporeans as Wiempie Mahardi has made it into the finals keeping the Singapore flag hope alive in the MS category.


cheers

8man

who is jeffer rosobin??? he is an indonesian??? never heard of his name b4...

badMania
09-10-2005, 10:02 AM
I dont really understand why our top-notch players playing in Satellite rather than more prestigeous game. :confused:

Kedrick, Xi Aiying, Lili, Li YiJia whom apparently in top 20 in world rank should play in Asian Game so that they can gain more experience and be useful when they encouter really top players.


I am also quite surprised to see them choosing to compete in a Grade A tournament. I guess its the home ground factor. Jiang/Li and Hendra/Li are two good pairs and they would have given the Asian Championships more sparks. Its not that the SBA doesn't have the money....

jug8man
09-10-2005, 10:02 AM
who is jeffer rosobin??? he is an indonesian??? never heard of his name b4...

1996 Asian champion MS.

badMania
09-10-2005, 10:04 AM
who is jeffer rosobin??? he is an indonesian??? never heard of his name b4...

He's a former Asian Champion but unfortunately, similar to Wiempie Mahardi (who now plays in Singapore), he couldn't make the grade and drops out of the Pelatnas. Its kind of scarry to think that Indonesia now only has 3 men's singles players and out of this 3, Simon Santoso still has yet to impress in the past year.

ants
09-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Any results from the Satellite Open?

x50926x
09-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Any results from the Satellite Open?

Jiang/Li won the Women's Doubles title against Ha Jung Eun & Kim Min Jung.
[15-3, 15-1]

FINALS
Singapore unless otherwise stated.

[WS]Xing Aiying will play Li Li.
[MXD] Saputra/Li will play Lee Yong Dae & Ha Jung Eun [KOR]
[MS] ROSOBIN Jeffer [INA] will play WIEMPIE Mahardi.
[MD] LEE Yong Dae & CHO Gun Woo [KOR] will play NG Kean Kok & HONG Chieng Hun [MAS]

x50926x
09-11-2005, 04:26 AM
[MS] Jeffer Rosobin def. WIEMPIE Mahardi
15-8, 15-11

[WS] Li Li def. Xing Aiying
11-7, 9-11, 11-5

[MD] Ng Kean Kok/HONG Chieng Hun def. Lee Yong Dae/CHO Gun Woo
13-15, 15-6, 15-3

[MXD] Hendri Saputra/Li Yujia def. Lee Yong Dae & Ha Jung Eun
15-6, 15-8

hcyong
09-11-2005, 05:12 AM
What is the point of getting foreign players? What is the point of getting them to play in an 'A' tournament when there are better tournaments running concurrently?

The whole point is to uplift the local badminton scene. Who do you think will come to watch the tournament if all these players play in the Asian Champs instead?

xijiayu
09-11-2005, 05:23 AM
Good to see Msia backup men double won in this championship. congratulation to them!

wl2172
09-11-2005, 06:44 AM
yeah...congrats to them.

hcyong
09-11-2005, 06:54 AM
I was watching Ng/Hong play against an even younger Malaysian pair in the quarters. The younger pair was impressive. They took the first set but then ran out of steam. I think they should be from the BJSS. One of them was tiny. I hope he grows taller.

xijiayu
09-11-2005, 07:38 AM
I was watching Ng/Hong play against an even younger Malaysian pair in the quarters. The younger pair was impressive. They took the first set but then ran out of steam. I think they should be from the BJSS. One of them was tiny. I hope he grows taller.

Ng/ Hong can be our 6th pair and hope Yap can ask them to join national team. How old are they? I know Ng used to play with KKK or CCM in one of the junior championships. Are they younger than our 2004 WJC?

protomedea
09-11-2005, 11:27 AM
Jeffer ROSOBIN plays for Chinese Taipei. Link: http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=7789

Jiang/Li won the Women's Doubles title against Ha Jung Eun & Kim Min Jung.
[15-3, 15-1]

FINALS
Singapore unless otherwise stated.

[WS]Xing Aiying will play Li Li.
[MXD] Saputra/Li will play Lee Yong Dae & Ha Jung Eun [KOR]
[MS] ROSOBIN Jeffer [INA] will play WIEMPIE Mahardi.
[MD] LEE Yong Dae & CHO Gun Woo [KOR] will play NG Kean Kok & HONG Chieng Hun [MAS]

Sealman
09-11-2005, 07:57 PM
He's a former Asian Champion but unfortunately, similar to Wiempie Mahardi (who now plays in Singapore), he couldn't make the grade and drops out of the Pelatnas. Its kind of scarry to think that Indonesia now only has 3 men's singles players and out of this 3, Simon Santoso still has yet to impress in the past year.

I watched Jeffer (representing Indonesia) played a very patient game against Kendrick and Mahardi and he hardly smashed. Also saw his wife and his two cute kids. Congratulations to him on his win!

Sealman
09-11-2005, 08:02 PM
Good to see Msia backup men double won in this championship. congratulation to them!

The Malaysian players were very defensive in the finals. After winning the first game, the young attacking Koreans ran out of steam and lost the next two games. Hope to see them make it to the senior squad :)

hcyong
09-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Jeffer ROSOBIN plays for Chinese Taipei. Link: http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=7789

You can't tell this days... You can have Tony Gunawan playing for the US, Flandi/Eng playing for England, others playing for Switzerland, Hong Kong, Netherlands, Taiwan, Singapore and who knows where else.

ants
09-11-2005, 08:12 PM
Its good to know that the Msian National Team discards won the tourney in the mens doubles... yeah , you did hear it right.. discards.

xijiayu
09-12-2005, 01:56 AM
Its good to know that the Msian National Team discards won the tourney in the mens doubles... yeah , you did hear it right.. discards.

Wow! discards also so good! :D

wl2172
09-12-2005, 03:08 AM
Its good to know that the Msian National Team discards won the tourney in the mens doubles... yeah , you did hear it right.. discards.

Its good to see that we finally have some breadth and depth for our MD, but I am slightly concerned of out MS. At present, only Lee CW can really challenge for honours. Hafiz is unpredictable, Wong and Roslin are getting old, Kuan, Sairul and Lee TS are mediocre and cannot be relied upon at the moment.

Also, MD players can last longer, but MS lifespan is significantly shorter. I think Mal really need to do something for MS. Relying on Lee CW all the time is not good for him. Perhaps Hafiz needs a change of direction as well in his approach (a new coach?).

badMania
09-12-2005, 03:14 AM
Its good to see that we finally have some breadth and depth for our MD, but I am slightly concerned of out MS. At present, only Lee CW can really challenge for honours. Hafiz is unpredictable, Wong and Roslin are getting old, Kuan, Sairul and Lee TS are mediocre and cannot be relied upon at the moment.

Realistically, Malaysia only has LCW, KBH, and Hafiz Hashim as their "long-term" players. Lee TS and Sairul Amar are too weak and I heard they will be booted out of the team. I also bet that WCH and Roslin will retire soon.

eskey
09-12-2005, 03:56 AM
Realistically, Malaysia only has LCW, KBH, and Hafiz Hashim as their "long-term" players. Lee TS and Sairul Amar are too weak and I heard they will be booted out of the team. I also bet that WCH and Roslin will retire soon.

Is WCH going to be MD player? cos In Sing and Mal open, he played on MD also.

taufik 4eva
09-14-2005, 07:13 AM
I dont really understand why our top-notch players playing in Satellite rather than more prestigeous game. :confused:

Kedrick, Xi Aiying, Lili, Li YiJia whom apparently in top 20 in world rank should play in Asian Game so that they can gain more experience and be useful when they encouter really top players.

I am no longer suprise when they were thrashed out by low rank players in world classed game depite thier suprerity of ranks. Lili was pushed out by young and unknown chinese girl in Malaysia Open and China Master.

Good to garner the points from satellite to elevate the word ranking. But they should not always playing. Without any exposure in good game, world rank is nothing and can't live with the status. :(

And endless comment of our team official or coach stating with complacent remarks of "satisfactory, upto expectation or improving etc..." at every end of the tounarment.

I noted thier comment about Ronald's progress when he beat a few players in Surdiman Cup 2005 as "satifactory imprvement". I see the point otherwise. What kind of improvement can be expected from age of Ronald (26+ years old) where Chinese player would have retired and become a coach.

I would rather see and cheer fresh Singaporeans should participate in this kind of satellite game and not any of our players who are in the world ranking of 20.

What a dissapointment!!!!!:mad:

HAHAHAHA.BECAUSE IT IS THEIR HOME GROUND .SO THEY HAVE TO PLAY.
IF NO GOOD PLAYERS IS PLAYING.THEY WILL B VERY LESS SUPPORTERS

msenghl
09-15-2005, 09:13 AM
Anyone has pics for this event? Please post them if you do. Thanks