Lin Dan's Technique

[paulchow]

I've read quite a few posts where Lin Dan was criticized for have poor technique in both his strokes and his footwork. Following these statements the poster will often explain his speed around the court and general ability to win games by saying he compensates by being incredibly fit and/or strong and/or mentally tough.

Whether or not you agree with the above statements, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the quality of Dan's technique and specifically, if you agree with said statements, exactly what you feel are the flaws in his shot mechanics or footwork.

[Brave_Turtle]

Lin is a counter attack player with an offensive style. He is left handed and often cuts the bird so it's hard for the opponent to predict where he will put the bird.

He also has one of the best cross court jump smash of the circuit, I'd say 75% effective.

I don't think Lin has poor techniques. Of course he doesn't have wide range of shots compared to Taufik has but saying he doesn't have good technique is a bit too much.

It's hard to say what are Lin's weak points as he is almost perfect when he plays well. Against LCW at MO, he really had hard time when LCW would clear in his deep forehand and especially his forehand corner. Against Taufik at WC, Lin couldn't match Taufik at the net.

I'm not a pro but I think that if you want to beat Lin, you have to play a technical game whitout exhausting yourself too much, not too offensive not too defensive. Pin him at the net or in corners. But its always hard to be better technically against a guy that is already technically good and with godly stamina.

[BethuneGuy]

Taufik destroyed Lin Dan at net at WC. I think that was the most crucial factor to his victory. LD was scared to play taufik at net, and Taufik I noticed, dropped a lot in the first game.

[Qidong]

Taufik destroyed Lin Dan at net at WC. I think that was the most crucial factor to his victory. LD was scared to play taufik at net, and Taufik I noticed, dropped a lot in the first game.

Yes, both Taufik and Sony dominated Lin Dan at the net in SC. I'm surprised his net game didn't improve much in WC because his coaches should have noticed that in SC and done something.

[eskey]

[QUOTE=paulchow]I've read quite a few posts where Lin Dan was criticized for have poor technique in both his strokes and his footwork. Following these statements the poster will often explain his speed around the court and general ability to win games by saying he compensates by being incredibly fit and/or strong and/or mentally tough.

[eskey]

I've read quite a few posts where Lin Dan was criticized for have poor technique in both his strokes and his footwork. Following these statements the poster will often explain his speed around the court and general ability to win games by saying he compensates by being incredibly fit and/or strong and/or mentally tough.

Whether or not you agree with the above statements, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the quality of Dan's technique and specifically, if you agree with said statements, exactly what you feel are the flaws in his shot mechanics or footwork.

I don't think Lin Dan has poor technique. If he does, how can he is ranked no 1 now and won many matches/tournaments (regardless of small or big), unless other players that he had beaten are poorer than his :) He is very very quick in footwork, offensive, aggressive and recovery from defence as well (how many times we've seen him diving all over the courts and yet still get the play on, and sometimes he can re-attacks the opponent as well).

The thing is if we compare him against Taufik for certain strokes/skill, for example, backhand and net play, of course Taufik is better than him, but it doesn't mean Lin Dan has poor technique, it just comparison between "good" and "better", so I think when Taufik meet Lin Dan in the match, he can take advantage/make use his strengh against LD's weakness, that's why LD had very difficult games during last 2 encounters.

So I think, when we do comparison between 2 players, we can say, one is better than the other one for certain area but who will win the match between them, will depend on how they can make use/maximize their strength to exploit the opponent's weekness.

Who knows, next time we'll see Lin Dan as better player on the net and he can challenge Taufik again (esp on net play) when he meet him on court, let's hope for that :)

[kemana]

I don't think Lin Dan has poor technique. If he does, how can he is ranked no 1 now and won many matches/tournaments (regardless of small or big), unless other players that he had beaten are poorer than his :) He is very very quick in footwork, offensive, aggressive and recovery from defence as well (how many times we've seen him diving all over the courts and yet still get the play on, and sometimes he can re-attacks the opponent as well).

The thing is if we compare him against Taufik for certain strokes/skill, for example, backhand and net play, of course Taufik is better than him, but it doesn't mean Lin Dan has poor technique, it just comparison between "good" and "better", so I think when Taufik meet Lin Dan in the match, he can take advantage/make use his strengh against LD's weakness, that's why LD had very difficult games during last 2 encounters.

So I think, when we do comparison between 2 players, we can say, one is better than the other one for certain area but who will win the match between them, will depend on how they can make use/maximize their strength to exploit the opponent's weekness.

Who knows, next time we'll see Lin Dan as better player on the net and he can challenge Taufik again (esp on net play) when he meet him on court, let's hope for that :)
i am more interested in a taufik vs. Lcw game , which maybe will be held in the coming Indo open:rolleyes: but i can't see it anyway:(

[Simp84]

Lin Dan is extremely fast on court... footwork is ok... but fast due to his fitness!
His jump smash is the lethal weapon that he use for winning... however I personally think he is not deceptive enough.. its very predictable when he is about to execute his Jump Smah~ very fancy move I gota admid :p

[jamesd20]

Lin Dan is extremely fast on court... footwork is ok... but fast due to his fitness!
His jump smash is the lethal weapon that he use for winning... however I personally think he is not deceptive enough.. its very predictable when he is about to execute his Jump Smah~ very fancy move I gota admid :p

Absolutley right, footwork ok (compared to other top players actually not very good) but main asset is physical capability (agility, power) which allows to mask those weaknesses under most circumstances.

And his weakness is his strokeplay in terms of deception, quality and consistency in his strokes.

[DinkAlot]

Agree with what's been said, this is a very good and informative thread. *thumbs up*

:)

[fast3r]

I don't think Lin Dan has poor technique. If he does, how can he is ranked no 1 now and won many matches/tournaments (regardless of small or big),

BEcause he uses speed and power. His technique is poor compared to other top players. For example, when he goes to the forehand corner, he tends to lean over to the shuttle rather than properly getting behind it.

[Brave_Turtle]

BEcause he uses speed and power. His technique is poor compared to other top players. For example, when he goes to the forehand corner, he tends to lean over to the shuttle rather than properly getting behind it.

Yeah I noticed it too! Thats how LCW got him at Malaysia Open. Players should play his in corners especially in his forehand corner.

He tends to overprotect his backhand nowadays.

[taufik-ist]

most china players, including lin dan, are not well trained at the net

[jamesd20]

Players should play his in corners especially in his forehand corner.



Incidently that is why BCL has a good record against Lin, because his shots are generally well placed into the corners and are quite accurate, exposing his weakness in being able to move completely to corner.

He is very very quick in reaching 3/4 full areas of the court, but his techniques do not allow him to effectivley cover the full court and play good quality strokes.

If you watch a game of his you will see when the shot reach the deep rear court he cannot get behind a shuttle to control the rallies, and likewise in the extreme front of the court.

(Taufik is also guilty of this flaw, but his superior strokeplay covers this for the most part, but again still struggles against BCL)

[eskey]

Incidently that is why BCL has a good record against Lin, because his shots are generally well placed into the corners and are quite accurate, exposing his weakness in being able to move completely to corner.

He is very very quick in reaching 3/4 full areas of the court, but his techniques do not allow him to effectivley cover the full court and play good quality strokes.

If you watch a game of his you will see when the shot reach the deep rear court he cannot get behind a shuttle to control the rallies, and likewise in the extreme front of the court.

(Taufik is also guilty of this flaw, but his superior strokeplay covers this for the most part, but again still struggles against BCL)

What's the record between BCL and LD? I thought LD has better records against BCL

[kemana]

What's the record between BCL and LD? I thought LD has better records against BCL
it's true, LD has better record against BCL

[jamesd20]

Yes BCL does have worst record, but in the first instance LD has worse record, LD claims BCL is his toughest opponent.

BCL has lost his mental grip on LD though

[monkeymagic]

BCL has lost his mental grip on LD though

^ What you on about ? LD has beaten BCL the last 4 times they have met. BCL never had a mental grip on LD in the first place in my opinion.... if he did LD has gotten better !! that's why he is no 1 !!!

I think LD knows (or Taufik knows his weakness) that his weakness is his net play and corner backhands.... but he compensates that in his fitness and smashing game.

If LD could play every aspect of his game perfect, he would be so highly ranked and everyone else would be no where !! It will be boring watching him play !! just like it was boring watching shcumacher winning the F1 all them years ago.

We are only human and as humans we are not perfect. LD is not perfect but that is how he plays, sure his coach is right now probably coaching him netplay shots and disguising his trick shots better but that would mean the other aspect of his game would suffer !! would his smashes still be just as powerful ? would he still be as quick ? I doubt it.

The jury is still out on what LD is going to play like next time.... but why change something if it works ?

[BoboTheBadder]

Lin Dan's weakness is his inability to play the game to his strengths. He's very fast paced and offensive, but for some reason he hasn't used it to his advantage as much this year when compared to last. His netplay hasn't always been the greatest, but he doesn't seem to be improving it or changing his playstyle a bit, such that he doesn't rely on it as much to force his opponent to lift so he can execute his jump smash.

Also I agree with previous points: Lin Dan does protect his backhand a lot. If you didn't notice, Taufik has a pretty mean backhand, which means he's able to take the shuttle a lot later (when it's already behind you) vs. around-the-heads where it can be quite a pain to hit. Chinese coaching styles emphasize around-the-head shots and not using your backhands unless you absolutely have to, which kind of evolved Lin Dan into:

1) Protecting his backhand side and
2) Being slower to his forhand/not getting in position/just sucking

In fact, Chinese style of play requires superior footwork so they can always get in position for the shuttle, especially on the backhand side. This is because most Chinese coaches teach a grip/hitting style that relies solely on forearm protonation with little to no wrist movement. I've had a lot of people tell me my grip and hitting style is wrong, but I was taught everything in China... it's just really different, though the difference is so subtle that you can't really tell on a TV screen.

Lin Dan has a VERY, VERY good around-the-head shot, probably the best on the pro-circuit. The only problem was that his opponents (especially Taufik) are able to exploit his netplay and forehand to force him out of position more and tire him out. I don't care how good his fitness is, but pushing him to 3 sets every match is going to tire him out sooner or later, especially if it happens several days in a row like it did at WC2005. I don't remember if I mentioned this in a previous post, but Lin Dan looked REALLY tired going into the third game against Gade in the semi-finals. In fact, if you didn't notice, his smash winners went down dramatically halfway through the second game (probably due to physical stress). If Gade had pushed him to the backcourt more or smashed more he probably would have taken the match, but instead he resorted to more basic four corners play. And when it comes to that, a tired Lin Dan > a tired and aging Gade.

As for the subtle differences I mentioned, Bao Chunlai has the best strokework I've seen on the Chinese team. The strokes he uses are exactly the same ones I was taught. It might be hard to see the whole wrist thing, but the best example would be for forehand crosscourt net drops. If they ever do a closeup of it, notice how he doesn't move his wrist at all, but instead rolls the racket around his palm with his fingers and lets his wrist and forearm movement follow naturally with the racket twist. This is how Chinese players can be so deceptive if they get into position quickly enough to execute a shot. A finger movement is a lot smaller and harder to detect than a full-out wrist one.

[jamesd20]

^ What you on about ? LD has beaten BCL the last 4 times they have met. BCL never had a mental grip on LD in the first place in my opinion

but why change something if it works ?

Bao Beat Lin in their first three meetings on the circuit, from then on he went downhill.


He should be looking to change, because it hasnt worked. His main priority should be to beat Taufik and/or win a major. as this will be the only way he is going to win a Major tournament. The only tournament of note he has won of note so far has been 2004 AE, in 4 years on the circuit for a so called superman isnt very good imo.

[DinkAlot]

The only tournament of note he has won of note so far has been 2004 AE, in 4 years on the circuit for a so called superman isnt very good imo.

James: at first I was going to disagree with what you posted but upon re-reading, more carefully, I agree; Lin Dan isn't very good at being a "superman", but he is very good at being ranked # 1. :p

[jamesd20]

he is very good at being ranked # 1. :p

100% Agree With that.

[DinkAlot]

100% Agree With that.

Only time will tell how much longer Lin Dan can sustain his super speed style. I bet not too much longer. I bet he'll still be a top player but he will have to improve his all around game (which he is doing) so he doesn't have to rely on his super speed all the time.

Maybe soon, LD can win a few points the easy way, by drop shot instead of jump smash or diving all over the place making unbelievable saves. :eek: :p :D

[genjyo]

well, lin dan doesnt like his nickname very much though he may be proud when he first got it as a honor.
i think it is not that serious for discussing the name;)

everyone has his own advantage, as for lin dan, speed and power are his strongpoints so he endeavor to enhance them to be his vital weapons.
on the otherwise, his weakness is very obvious which was exposed totally in the wc finals.
maybe he wont become a perfect player but he should insist his own style, learn everything may result in losing yourself

anyway, i fancy lin dan is a top player at this time, not the toppest coz diligence cant replace genius absolutely:p

taufik has a excellent backhand, not everyone can use that skill so well...
as long as you present your best, that is pretty good and has no regret:)

[DinkAlot]

taufik has a excellent backhand, not everyone can use that skill so well...

Yes, it's the best in the business; at least from what I have seen so far. Any in history have a comparable/better backhand?

[ye333]

Agree. Taufik's backhand is the most complete I have ever seen.
Actually, I have seen quite a few of his games, and I think his had not
shown such complete backhand techs until this year. I don't know
that is my illusion or he really changed his backhand style this year.


Yes, it's the best in the business; at least from what I have seen so far. Any in history have a comparable/better backhand?

[DinkAlot]

Agree. Taufik's backhand is the most complete I have ever seen.
Actually, I have seen quite a few of his games, and I think his had not
shown such complete backhand techs until this year. I don't know
that is my illusion or he really changed his backhand style this year.

Now this is a "Super Man" backhand. :p

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1169/thbackhandgrip8ca.jpg

[jamesd20]

He has had the backhand as perfect as ever since he won his first tournament at 15 (brunei open). Even then people said it was the best in the business.

Genjyo sums it up perfectly, dilligence cannot compete with absolute genius.

[fast3r]

Also I agree with previous points: Lin Dan does protect his backhand a lot. If you didn't notice, Taufik has a pretty mean backhand, which means he's able to take the shuttle a lot later (when it's already behind you) vs. around-the-heads where it can be quite a pain to hit. Chinese coaching styles emphasize around-the-head shots and not using your backhands unless you absolutely have to, which kind of evolved Lin Dan into



It is true that you shouldn't play a backhand unless you absolutely have to. With the right footwork you should be able to play a round the head shot quite easily. The reason that the backhand is frowned upon is because it takes a lot more time, allowing your opponent more time to recover. Also the range of shots most people can play, including the top players in th world, is far more limited on the backhand.

[DinkAlot]

It is true that you shouldn't play a backhand unless you absolutely have to.

Absolutely but sometimes your opponents are too good and you just have to hit a lot of backhands...like me. :p

[ye333]

Also hitting a round-of-head consumes more energy... :)

Absolutely but sometimes your opponents are too good and you just have to hit a lot of backhands...like me. :p

[DinkAlot]

Also hitting a round-of-head consumes more energy... :)

That's what I usually do to avoid the backhand but sometimes I'm just exposed. I always try to play people better than me. As a result they make me hit shots I don't normally want to hit. :p

[BethuneGuy]

Offtopic, but the backhand has allowed to cover the court better because now that I can hit it, I dont have to be so conscious about protecting my backhand corner. And those annoying low lifts down my backhand side.

[monkeymagic]

Maybe it's a gentic thing or out of lack of training (or neglect)..... but watching the WC. All the chinese players even the women go round the houses (as the say it chinese) rather use their backhand. Even when my dad, when he was training us when we were young, will show us and tell us to do the same thing..... 15 years on and nothing seems to change. Why is that ?

Also I never knew hitting round the head requires and consumes more energy....must get more coaching for backhand from brother :crying:

[mila trajano]

i am a badminton player and greatest dream is to see in person my favorite player LIN DAN. this happened during the MVP2 Cup here in the philippines. he's so marvelous in the way he play and that's why he is number ONE again. i was so happy coz he's accomodating and let his fans take picture with him and of course, i have a picture of LIN DAN and an autographed picture. LIN DAN is fantastic and great player. MORE POWER TO YOU, LIN DAN

[EastDevil]

Only time will tell how much longer Lin Dan can sustain his super speed style. I bet not too much longer. I bet he'll still be a top player but he will have to improve his all around game (which he is doing) so he doesn't have to rely on his super speed all the time.

Maybe soon, LD can win a few points the easy way, by drop shot instead of jump smash or diving all over the place making unbelievable saves. :eek: :p :D

Players evolve. While they are young, they tend to be interested in speed and power games. As they get older, they change their game accordingly. I think they simply try to bank on what they can do now and figure the rest out later. :D

[cao ci dan]

:eek: wow...i like this thread so much...teach me a lot...thanks!!:)

[Youngunz_77]

1 thing, athelthicism

[Green72(CAN)]

It seems like at least a couple of indonesian players have good backhands. I've seen Sigit do backhand smashes that surprised the opponent, and of course, Taufik has an awesome backhand.

Although one has fewer choices available when using the backhand, using it can be surprising to an opponent.

[Master Yoda]

i am a badminton player and greatest dream is to see in person my favorite player LIN DAN. this happened during the MVP2 Cup here in the philippines. he's so marvelous in the way he play and that's why he is number ONE again. i was so happy coz he's accomodating and let his fans take picture with him and of course, i have a picture of LIN DAN and an autographed picture. LIN DAN is fantastic and great player. MORE POWER TO YOU, LIN DAN


Sad mate, you should kiss peoples arse so much. I hate the celebrity culture

[MSHSBadmPlayer]

most china players, including lin dan, are not well trained at the net

i beg to differ. look at zhang ning, xie xingfang and wang lin's netplay.

edit: okay, maybe not XXF :D

[bad_fanatic]

How can you guys say that Lin Dan's footwork is just OK? Lin Dan's footwork isn't as smooth as Taufik or Peter Gades, but that doesn't mean that his foot isn't as good. His footwork is just rigid or rough. To me, his footwork is just as good as anyone else out there.

Deceptive: Lin Dan is Deceptive. It is obvious when he's going for a smash, but it's hard to tell if it's cross court or down the line. If he's not deceptive, you think he would be so effective in his smashing. In addition, has tricked or got many of his opponent flat foot many times, including taufik that the 2006 Thomas Cup held in Japan.

Lin Dan's net skill is not bad. He dominated Peter Gade at net in 2004 Thomas Cup Finals, and Taufik at the the 2005 Sudirman Cup finals. The reason for him not doing so well at net lately, I don't know, but Lin Dan can play the net.

[Konnichiwa]

Sad mate, you should kiss peoples arse so much. I hate the celebrity culture

yeah i know its so wrong to look up to your idol who's number one in the world.... what are people thinking :rolleyes:

[Qidong]

Lin Dan's net skill is not bad. He dominated Peter Gade at net in 2004 Thomas Cup Finals, and Taufik at the the 2005 Sudirman Cup finals. The reason for him not doing so well at net lately, I don't know, but Lin Dan can play the net.

Are you sure? I watched both matches. LD was dominated at the net by PG and Taufik, and even Sony. LD's weakest area is at the net. Other than that he doesn't have any weakness. Almost forgot his other weakness are his bad temper and like to throw racquet at his opponent's coach. :D:D

[bad_fanatic]

Are you sure? I watched both matches. LD was dominated at the net by PG and Taufik, and even Sony. LD's weakest area is at the net. Other than that he doesn't have any weakness. Almost forgot his other weakness are his bad temper and like to throw racquet at his opponent's coach. :D:D

Yes I'm pretty sure about it. LD was pretty much in control of the net while playing with PG. 2005 Sudirman Cup, Taufik was dominating the net at the beginning of match, but LD stepped up his game and was terrific at the net.

In both game with PG and TH, LD was not dominated at the net. To me he actually more in control then the opponent. What I'm trying to say is that, LD has good net skills. However he does not exploited like a lot of other players.

About the throwing racket issue, that's a different topic and we can talk about on a different thread.

[cooler]

Are you sure? I watched both matches. LD was dominated at the net by PG and Taufik, and even Sony. LD's weakest area is at the net. Other than that he doesn't have any weakness. Almost forgot his other weakness are his bad temper and like to throw racquet at his opponent's coach. :D:Dif only u r lucky enough to have a racket thrown at u by LD:p:rolleyes:

[cooler]

Yes I'm pretty sure about it. LD was pretty much in control of the net while playing with PG. 2005 Sudirman Cup, Taufik was dominating the net at the beginning of match, but LD stepped up his game and was terrific at the net.

In both game with PG and TH, LD was not dominated at the net. To me he actually more in control then the opponent. What I'm trying to say is that, LD has good net skills. However he does not exploited like a lot of other players.

About the throwing racket issue, that's a different topic and we can talk about on a different thread.why even compare net skills of LD to whoever, 2+ years ago? Unlike PG and TH (your examples), LD had improved since then.

[Athelete1234]

Sad mate, you should kiss peoples arse so much. I hate the celebrity culture
You bump a thread just to flame a fan of LD who's only posted once? Wow.

[ye333]

In fact in the 05 SC match, LD got several net points at the beginning of 1st game. The mandarin commentator ("Han the Big Mouth" :D) commentated excitedly that LD had better net skill than TH, while ZJH, the co-commentator, appeared to have different opinions. As the match progress, TH became the one who dominated the net. Maybe LD dominated again in the 2nd game but I could not remember since I usually only watch the 1st game. :D

Personally I don't think LD has as good net skills as TH. Meaning: if both hit the shuttle at the same position, TH usually can deliver net shots with better quality. But LD makes it up by getting into position faster than anyone else, which means he can hit the shuttle more comfortably. That's how he dominates the net.

I think technically LD is not as complete as CH or TH. But he has his strength. He is above anyone else in anticipation. This combined with his speed enables him to get into position quicker than anyone else and intercept before his opponents has time to recover from their previous shots. :cool:


Yes I'm pretty sure about it. LD was pretty much in control of the net while playing with PG. 2005 Sudirman Cup, Taufik was dominating the net at the beginning of match, but LD stepped up his game and was terrific at the net.

In both game with PG and TH, LD was not dominated at the net. To me he actually more in control then the opponent. What I'm trying to say is that, LD has good net skills. However he does not exploited like a lot of other players.

About the throwing racket issue, that's a different topic and we can talk about on a different thread.

[Master Yoda]

yeah i know its so wrong to look up to your idol who's number one in the world.... what are people thinking :rolleyes:

Know problem with looking up your favorite player etc. But he said it was his greatest dream to meet him, he just a person. Now that is sad, thats arse licking sad, what kind of life must that dude have if that is his greatest dream

[Master Yoda]

You bump a thread just to flame a fan of LD who's only posted once? Wow.

I'm a fan of LD but i'm not in love with him

[volcom]

Know problem with looking up your favorite player etc. But he said it was his greatest dream to meet him, he just a person. Now that is sad, thats arse licking sad, what kind of life must that dude have if that is his greatest dream

Man what the hell is your problem?

[Master Yoda]

Man what the hell is your problem?

My problem is most of the people on this website seem to have no self respect and just see some1 who can play better than them as a god. The same with pretty much every forum I have visited. Very sad indeed, maybe their mummies didn't say they loved them enough, I don't know but there something wrong

[taneepak]

Know problem with looking up your favorite player etc. But he said it was his greatest dream to meet him, he just a person. Now that is sad, thats arse licking sad, what kind of life must that dude have if that is his greatest dream

You don't have to be so rude and vulgar, just because you do not agree with what he said. Come on, where are your manners?

[Smichz]

haha..if this goes around,next time,there will be LCW fansclub,TH fansclub,BCL fansclub,PG fansclub,SDK fansclub,etc..n each members of the fansclub will fight against each other after every matches,or competition.

[Oldhand]

Just in case someone missed it, this thread relates to Lin Dan's technique :)

[yy_ling]

My problem is most of the people on this website seem to have no self respect and just see some1 who can play better than them as a god. The same with pretty much every forum I have visited. Very sad indeed, maybe their mummies didn't say they loved them enough, I don't know but there something wrong

hey, i think you have became the Sith, no longer Jedi master Yoda

[azabaz_ipoh]

i don't know much about technique. i am struggling with it myself. and i have not done any research or extensive reading on techniques but my opinion is for someone to dominate a sport surely he is doing something right. most probably most of the things right. i dont believe anybody can be a good professional player without a good solid foundation of technique. i just think that some are just more graceful than others. LD might look coarse with his techniques but i never think his technique is inferior.

[Elixau]

Lin Dan's technique is at professional player's level. It's just that some professional players have prettier techniques than others.

[Konnichiwa]

My problem is most of the people on this website seem to have no self respect and just see some1 who can play better than them as a god. The same with pretty much every forum I have visited. Very sad indeed, maybe their mummies didn't say they loved them enough, I don't know but there something wrong

obviously your an ignorant fellow with no dreams and no inspirations...so how bout you just keep your dumbazz comments to yourself huh? we all have someone we look up to and to get to actually see that person in real life im sure would be a real treat.....seems you have alot of anger maybe your mommy didnt hug or kiss you enough either :D

[bad_fanatic]

obviously your an ignorant fellow with no dreams and no inspirations...so how bout you just keep your dumbazz comments to yourself huh? we all have someone we look up to and to get to actually see that person in real life im sure would be a real treat.....seems you have alot of anger maybe your mommy didnt hug or kiss you enough either :D

I don't condone to forum arguments, but that was a good one.

I think azabaz_ipoh, Elixau and some others of are trying to say is that. Lin Dan's does have good Technique. However he may not look as graceful like other top notch player, but he does have good technique.

[Athelete1234]

I'd say LD has amazing technique. The only problem is, he only likes to do what he's good at; zipping around the court like greased lightning, huge smashes, and a lot of around the head, in a sense, he has mastery over basic badminton technique. LCW and TH have more techniques to rely on, but LD is master of the basic stuff. Not to mention his fitness is insane.

[taneepak]

BTW do you notice that Lin Dan probably has the greatest "bend" in his overhead (round the head) smash among the singles players? This acrobatic-like ability, reflecting an extremely strong core, shrinks the court for him.

[bananakid]

I'd say LD has amazing technique. The only problem is, he only likes to do what he's good at; zipping around the court like greased lightning, huge smashes, and a lot of around the head, in a sense, he has mastery over basic badminton technique. LCW and TH have more techniques to rely on, but LD is master of the basic stuff. Not to mention his fitness is insane.

Isn't the whole point of a match is to play to your own strength? It's harder than you think, just to keep your opponent playing to your strength, and keep them away from your weakness.:cool:

Having more technique may be good to watch from an audience point of view, and sometimes may help the player to get out of trouble, but that doesn't necessary mean the more technique you have, the better you are. Just look at the number of trick shots Hafiz has, and look at his result from 2007... that should prove a point.:p