Indonesia Open 2005 SEMI-FINAL (24/09/2005)

[keigo911]

Today lotz of game drag in rubber set!
And most of the winner of the 1st game has no luck to win thier match....

[baihaki_as]

Yes, he's achievement would be even greater since Thailand is not known as a powerhouse in men's badminton, not since the 60s.

if you watch bp vs kj you'll see that bp have alot of talents, if he play in my country i think he''ll more develop with more sparing patners player

[yuval_ba]

if you watch bp vs kj you'll see that bp have alot of talents, if he play in my country i think he''ll more develop with more sparing patners playerI agree, he seems a very talented player
I'm sure he can give a good match to any player around today

[moonsilk]

Yes, he's achievement would be even greater since Thailand is not known as a powerhouse in men's badminton, not since the 60s.

Badminton in Thailand remains an unpopular sport up till today.
And for thais who know about badminton,most of them link badminton to ONLY Boonsak.Hahaha!

Boonsak did really well today!
I love his trick shots and back hand smash!!

[abedeng]

I agree, he seems a very talented player
I'm sure he can give a good match to any player around today

I agree with both you and Baihaki, too bad BP's neither Indonesian nor Malaysian, his talents could be further refined with high quality sparring. We'd really could use him to face the mighty Chinese ...

[SmartCivet]

hyun il beat sony?but i read the previous post, only find two set score. sony win the first set 15-6, hyun il win the seconde set 15-7,but dont read the rubber set' score?!

[SmartCivet]

hyun il beat sony?but i read the previous post, only find two set score. sony win the first set 15-6, hyun il win the seconde set 15-7,but dont read the rubber set' score?!
should be 6-15, 15-7 15-7 . :p

[divad]

Hi all, i'm new member in this forum...nice to know all of you :)

i read on www.detik.com (http://www.detik.com) (indonesia language) today that LHI had beatan sony 15-6, 7-15, 7-15...and will face BP in the final match after BP won over Kenneth Jonassen.

all Indonesian final will happen in MD category. Candra Wijaya/Sigit Bugiarto (world champ) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan (asian champ)

Candra/Sigit bt Carsten Mogensen/Mette Schjoldager (Denmark) 15-4 15-11,
Markis/Hendra bt Lee Wan Wah/Choong Tan Fook 17-16 17-14.

MixDouble, Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir will face another INA players, Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty on the final...

david



hyun il beat sony?but i read the previous post, only find two set score. sony win the first set 15-6, hyun il win the seconde set 15-7,but dont read the rubber set' score?!

[Arief]

sony was definitely exhausted in the later set... hyun il kill him easily with drop shots..

[Sammy]

I agree with both you and Baihaki, too bad BP's neither Indonesian nor Malaysian, his talents could be further refined with high quality sparring. We'd really could use him to face the mighty Chinese ...

Well, give him an Indonesian or Malaysian nationality like some other countries do. They gave nationality to some Chinese players.

[Badmincraze]

anyone knows at wat score did Jiang/Li lost to the koreans in the WD ? :confused:

[baihaki_as]

Well, give him an Indonesian or Malaysian nationality like some other countries do. They gave nationality to some Chinese players.

i think thailand won't release him, and usually the contry that give nationality must be don't have good player or even don't have. so why malaysia or indonesia must pay him if they have alot of stock

[divad]

sony was definitely exhausted in the later set... hyun il kill him easily with drop shots..

maybe sony still has a problem with his injury...
i think LHI will win on the final match...he has proved it on SF. Just my feeling...:p

[divad]

i think thailand won't release him, and usually the contry that give nationality must be don't have good player or even don't have. so why malaysia or indonesia must pay him if they have alot of stock

100% agree baihaki_as
chinese players move to other countries because of the very tight competition level in their country,china..but not in thailand

[tony rules]

how do u know that taufik was called jaguh kampung before? when?
hei he still have chance, do u know that taufik also call jago kampung before, so be patient :):)

[baihaki_as]

how do u know that taufik was called jaguh kampung before? when?

i know it from newspaper before he won the olympic title and i think this issue that make big fight between him and Joko s.

i think lcw is a consistent player you can see his record in worldbadminton.net, maybe not his luck that he often fail in outside his country

[Sammy]

i think thailand won't release him, and usually the contry that give nationality must be don't have good player or even don't have. so why malaysia or indonesia must pay him if they have alot of stock

You're right. Anyway, it's not proud to win tournaments with "imported" players. What about buying the whole Brazilian players to tremendously improve the chance to win World Cup. IBF should do something about the rules of import players. IBF should encourage those countries to unearth their home grown players. Probably hire some good coaches.

[**KZ**]

You're right. Anyway, it's not proud to win tournaments with "imported" players. What about buying the whole Brazilian players to tremendously improve the chance to win World Cup. IBF should do something about the rules of import players. IBF should encourage those countries to unearth their home grown players. Probably hire some good coaches.


singapore is an example
they hav imported players in table tennis, badminton n many other sports.
i dun think any country should rely on players from other countries for a medal

[CaesarZ]

i think thailand won't release him, and usually the contry that give nationality must be don't have good player or even don't have. so why malaysia or indonesia must pay him if they have alot of stock

If given a chance, Singapore would be most interested. They depend everything on imported players. Their population is small and there is absolutely no high grade local talent.

[Sammy]

singapore is an example
they hav imported players in table tennis, badminton n many other sports.
i dun think any country should rely on players from other countries for a medal

Haha....couldnt agree more. They do not excel in any sport at all with their own home grown players therefore they have to import. How I wish they can buy the Brazillian team to win World Cup. At least Asia get to win World Cup sooner than later. :D

[extremenanopowe]

ok man see you in final.

Lets take some rackets and start playing.:D

I'll be at hotel mulia, let me know if you want to meet up.

rgds

[**KZ**]

If given a chance, Singapore would be most interested. They depend everything on imported players. Their population is small and there is absolutely no high grade local talent.

sometimes i feel angry when an imported athlete from singapore wins something big

[CaesarZ]

anyone knows at wat score did Jiang/Li lost to the koreans in the WD ? :confused:

They lost 15-1, 15-7.

[Sammy]

sometimes i feel angry when an imported athlete from singapore wins something big

I dont feel anything cause to me its the imported players who won it not Singapore.

[CaesarZ]

sometimes i feel angry when an imported athlete from singapore wins something big

I won't feel angry but if i am a singaporean i won't feel proud cos i won't feel like is a true singaporean that has achieved that. It's rather much like a short cut to bring sports glory to the country but I don't feel this is a long term solution. Sometimes is not so much the results that count, is how much effort that is put in.

If a player is not as naturally gifted as players from other countries, then i think he/she should put even more effort to compensate for this.

[moonsilk]

100% agree baihaki_as
chinese players move to other countries because of the very tight competition level in their country,china..but not in thailand


Some of Boonsak's team mates in Thailand team look up to him as an idol.
Sometimes when they meet people of other countries,they will tell others how good Boonsak is!
Many of them called him as P'Man instead of man(his nickname).
P'Man means Man ge ge or Man brother.
This shows that they respect him eventhough he is just their team mate!!

Even the guys in the team think that Boonsak is good looking!
Haha!:D
As far as I know,the team mates in thai team always encourage each other.
I believe its the bond they have that make them stay together.
So I think they wont move to other countries just because of very tight competition.

[kanive]

all Indonesian final will happen in MD category. Candra Wijaya/Sigit Bugiarto (world champ) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan (asian champ)


uhh.. not quite..

World Champs are Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach :D

[twdc08]

emm...can any one show me the score of the WD match of C.E.H/W.P.T vs saralee / sathinee???

Singapore....i think singapore inported many players from china...
eg:Li Yu Jia,Jiang Yan Mei,Li Li......for table tennis is Li Jia Wei.(olympic no.4
she is ronald susilo`s girl friend right??

[moonsilk]

emm...can any one show me the score of the WD match of C.E.H/W.P.T vs saralee / sathinee???

Singapore....i think singapore inported many players from china...
eg:Li Yu Jia,Jiang Yan Mei,Li Li......for table tennis is Li Jia Wei.(olympic no.4
she is ronald susilo`s girl friend right??

They are engaged!
Heard that they are getting married next year!Haha!

[genjyo]

emm...can any one show me the score of the WD match of C.E.H/W.P.T vs saralee / sathinee???

Singapore....i think singapore inported many players from china...
eg:Li Yu Jia,Jiang Yan Mei,Li Li......for table tennis is Li Jia Wei.(olympic no.4
she is ronald susilo`s girl friend right??

ya, haha, you are right
i think they gave A BIG SURPRISE to the people all over the world in OG when li jia wei stunned wang nan and susilo beat #1:p

[keigo911]

They are engaged!
Heard that they are getting married next year!Haha!

wah.....sounds good!
What sports will they let thier children play in the future??
Badminton o Table tennis??
Lets Guess......hehe!!:D :D :D
O combination of both?? Hahaha!!!:) :) What game it that leh....??!!:p :eek: :p :eek: :p

[nellute]

I won't feel angry but if i am a singaporean i won't feel proud cos i won't feel like is a true singaporean that has achieved that. It's rather much like a short cut to bring sports glory to the country but I don't feel this is a long term solution. Sometimes is not so much the results that count, is how much effort that is put in.

If a player is not as naturally gifted as players from other countries, then i think he/she should put even more effort to compensate for this.

Right. No point getting angry.

These are second rank players from power house, China. If they chose to stay in China, they will not have any chance to excel. From professional point of view, that is the right thing to do.

[CaesarZ]

emm...can any one show me the score of the WD match of C.E.H/W.P.T vs saralee / sathinee???

Singapore....i think singapore inported many players from china...
eg:Li Yu Jia,Jiang Yan Mei,Li Li......for table tennis is Li Jia Wei.(olympic no.4
she is ronald susilo`s girl friend right??

Chin/Wong won 15-10, 17-16.

This is also the first time they got the better of saralee/sathinee.

[moonsilk]

wah.....sounds good!
What sports will they let thier children play in the future??
Badminton o Table tennis??
Lets Guess......hehe!!:D :D :D
O combination of both?? Hahaha!!!:) :) What game it that leh....??!!:p :eek: :p :eek: :p

I think they can have a combination of both!
Best if Ronald can coach his son and Jiawei coach her daughter!
They can be their parents/coaches!
:p

Hope that Ronald will get well soon,so that he can play in tournies again.

[YanQing]

So funny!Yah,hoping that Ronald recovers soon too!I also think they can have a combination of both!How adorable that sounds!
I think they can have a combination of both!
Best if Ronald can coach his son and Jiawei coach her daughter!
They can be their parents/coaches!
:p

Hope that Ronald will get well soon,so that he can play in tournies again.

[divad]

Thank you 4 d info:)
and i think BP also doesn't want to move to other country cause he's an idol now!!

one of the Chinese players, 4 example : Pi Hong Y moves to France because she couldn't compete with her team mates...Zhan Ning,XXF, Gong Xi Cao (I wonder where she is...??), etc. so that she can find more advantages in the 'new country'...What do ya think??


Some of Boonsak's team mates in Thailand team look up to him as an idol.
Sometimes when they meet people of other countries,they will tell others how good Boonsak is!
Many of them called him as P'Man instead of man(his nickname).
P'Man means Man ge ge or Man brother.
This shows that they respect him eventhough he is just their team mate!!

Even the guys in the team think that Boonsak is good looking!
Haha!:D
As far as I know,the team mates in thai team always encourage each other.
I believe its the bond they have that make them stay together.
So I think they wont move to other countries just because of very tight competition.

[x50926x]

If given a chance, Singapore would be most interested. They depend everything on imported players. Their population is small and there is absolutely no high grade local talent.


singapore is an example
they hav imported players in table tennis, badminton n many other sports.
i dun think any country should rely on players from other countries for a medal

When you say Singapore depends everything on foreign talents, then you are very wrong. Singapore don't depend everything on local talents. For example, Wushu and swimming. And their Wushu athletes and swimmers are better than most of the other South-East Asians. I don't see that being regarded as depending on foreign talents. And i can say that they are high-grade.

And if you think any country should not rely on foreign talents for a medal, then what's the point of USA hurray-ing when Gunawan/Bach won the World Championships? What's the point of Hong Kong being happy when Wang Chen won ABC? They are also foreign talents anyway. And i don't see anyone saying this that time.

We feel proud when foreign talents wins because they are still part of your country. They are groomed here, they live here. And without Singapore, i don't think they will ever make their mark in the sporting arena. Because Singapore brought them over from China that's why they have got the chance to excel. I don't even think they have got the chance to perform when they are in China. They have got too many good players there that they sometimes forget about the a little above average players. So when Singapore brings them over, they become even more famous than some other players who other better than them who are still stuck in China.

Is this considered wrong? We're helping them actually. And even if they are foreign talents, they won't be doing so well if Singapore doesn't have the ability to do so. Because Singapore have the capability, the foreign talents can rise. And is that called relying on foreign players? Singapore plays a part in moulding the foreign talents too. So i think it's really rude to say that about Singapore.

[keigo911]

I think they can have a combination of both!
Best if Ronald can coach his son and Jiawei coach her daughter!
They can be their parents/coaches!
:p

Hope that Ronald will get well soon,so that he can play in tournies again.


haha!!
Nice Idea!:p

[moonsilk]

Thank you 4 d info:)
and i think BP also doesn't want to move to other country cause he's an idol now!!

one of the Chinese players, 4 example : Pi Hong Y moves to France because she couldn't compete with her team mates...Zhan Ning,XXF, Gong Xi Cao (I wonder where she is...??), etc. so that she can find more advantages in the 'new country'...What do ya think??

Welcome!!
Haha!Yup,he's an idol now,even in his team...:D

I agree that there are too many talented players in China.
Far too many!!
Perhaps they are moving to other countries to prove themselves.
If they stay in China,theres no way they can excel when they are not given equal chance to play and to represent the team.