Men's Singles
Boonsak Polsana(THA) vs Lee Hyun-Il(KOR)

Women's Singles
Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED)

Men's Doubles
Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA)

Women's Doubles
Chin Ei Hui/Wong Pei Tty(MAS) vs Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won(KOR)

Mixed Doubles
Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir(INA) vs Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty(INA)

hope tat chin/wong will win:)

My prediction:

MS - Boonsak Ponsana

WS - Mia Audina

XD - Widianto/Natsir

WD - Chin/Wong

MD - Candra/Sigit

:D :D :D

My prediction:

MS - Boonsak Ponsana

WS - Mia Audina

XD - Widianto/Natsir

WD - Chin/Wong

MD - Candra/Sigit

:D :D :D

I agree with you!!
Good for MS,WS and WD!
I think the title will mean a lot to them when they win titles once in a blue moon.Haha...

Go Boonsak!!

Men's Singles
Boonsak Polsana(THA) vs Lee Hyun-Il(KOR)

Women's Singles
Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED)

Men's Doubles
Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA)

Women's Doubles
Chin Ei Hui/Wong Pei Tty(MAS) vs Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won(KOR)

Mixed Doubles
Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir(INA) vs Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty(INA)


i find an interesting phenomenon
indo can seize the MD&XD titles for no suspense but no chance for the others;)

wau~at least still can see malaysians in final...hope u can success!!!

my predictions:
MS-LEE HY:)
WS-WANG C:)
MD-SIGIT/CHANDRA:)
WD-CHIN EH/WONG PT:)
XD-NOVA/NATSIR:)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

This is a best chance for BOONSAK to grasp the title outside
GO GO .... BOONSAK

It is irrational to predict Chin / Wong will win. But I do hope so.

hope tat chin/wong will win:)


yeah!!!
Support...:)

yeah!!!
Support...:)


wong/chin, I'm proud of u..... mal. bolehhhhhh..

yeah!!!
Support...:)

Ya, last hope for Malaysian to bring back a title home in this IO !
MD, you can do it ! Be determined and go all the way for it.
Am sure we all Malaysian are behind your back to give support...

MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!! :p :p :p

does anyone have any idea bout the order of play?

MEN'S SINGLES
BOONSAK PONSANA

WOMEN'S SINGLES
MIA AUDINA

MEN'S DOUBLES
MARKIS KIDO/HENDRA SETIAWAN (FIRST MAJOR WIN -- THEY DESERVE IT!)

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
LEE HYO JUNG/LEE KYUNG WON

MIXED DOUBLES
NOVA WIDIANTO/LILYANA NATSIR

This is a best chance for BOONSAK to grasp the title outside
GO GO .... BOONSAK
I wish for his victory as well :D

u guys should give lee hyun il some credit...he came out being the underdog and beat lee chong wei and sony dwi kuncoro. and i think like one or two years ago, he use to be ranked number one, and this might b the start of his comeback:D . yeah so, my vote goes to lee hyun il

u guys should give lee hyun il some credit...he came out being the underdog and beat lee chong wei and sony dwi kuncoro. and i think like one or two years ago, he use to be ranked number one, and this might b the start of his comeback:D . yeah so, my vote goes to lee hyun il

same here, I was about to give the same comment. I am really amazed that he beat LCW and sony at his home court. Further more, I think it has been quite a while since Korea has win any world title in MS.;)

It is irrational to predict Chin / Wong will win. But I do hope so.

Yeah!!...Mal Boleh....

And this one will be a historical day for malaysia badminton team!!:D

Do anyone knows what time MS final will be played?

My prediction:

MS - Boonsak Ponsana

WS - Mia Audina

XD - Widianto/Natsir

WD - Chin/Wong

MD - Candra/Sigit

:D :D :D

i think for md and xd the youngters will be win, senior indonesian players often give the winning to the youngster, and for wd i prefer korean, the singapore can be beaten easily so no problem with malaysian i think.

It is irrational to predict Chin / Wong will win. But I do hope so.
Yes, if they do win, it's going to provide a headache for the M'sian headcoach because comparisons will be made to the men's doubles.

Just off the top of my head, I can't remember the last time a M'sian doubles pair actually won a Grand Prix event.

The only one in my memory is Choong Tan Fook, and Lee Wan Wah back in 1999? (it was S'porean Open, then called "Konica Cup").

Yeah.. I support Malaysia's Chin and Wong.. !! :D Go Malaysia!! Jiayou!;)

The Finals Will Start at 1.30 pm (+8GMT) (malaysian/singaporean time)

cant wait.. anoter four and a half hours to go

lets go Boonsak. Your are the underdog.
Khup kun khup.
:D

Just off the top of my head, I can't remember the last time a M'sian doubles pair actually won a Grand Prix event.

The only one in my memory is Choong Tan Fook, and Lee Wan Wah back in 1999? (it was S'porean Open, then called "Konica Cup").

Choong/Lee won the Malaysia Open 2004. Chan/Koo won the Chinese Taipei Open 2004.

Ms- Boonsak. He is a very talented player in my opinion but still lack of expirience because he seldom paticipate in tournament. He only participate in big tournament and always give a surprise by eliminating the seeded player

WD- This should go to Korean as they are better compare to Malaysian. But Malaysian still can win if they make less mistake and play at their best. Remember nothing is Impossible.

My prediction
MS-(hard to predict)
WS-Mia Audina
MD-Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto
WD-Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won
MXD-Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
The home crowd really support Boonsak yesterday and he played well againts Kenneth Jonassen, while Lee Hyun Il is on his best performance after beating Sony and Lee Chong Wei... Both of them deserve to get the title...

Lee Hyun Il vs Ponsana head-to-head...3 to 3. However, Lee won their last meeting in Singapore this year with a crushing score: 15-7, 15-1

Lee Hyun Il vs Ponsana head-to-head...3 to 3. However, Lee won their last meeting in Singapore this year with a crushing score: 15-7, 15-1

Go Ponsana! I support him.

Chin Ei Hui/Wong Pei Tty(MAS) vs Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won(KOR)

MAS - KOR 3 - 3 from 1-3

4-3 smash Chin
3-4 smash LHJ
3-4 net LHJ
4-4 net ret. serv Wong
5-4 bh drop shot LHJ
4-5 long

4-5 placing LKW
5-4 easy smash LHJ
6-4 good ret. LKW
7-4 easy placing LHJ
8-4 net ue Chin
9-4 easy soft smash by LHJ
10-4 long ue Wong

11-4 net ret. serv. Wong
12-4 net ue
13-4 long placing Wong
14-4 smash LHJ
14-4 smash, KOR out of position
15-4 easy smash LHJ

Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won(KOR) v Chin Ei Hui/Wong Pei Tty(MAS) 15-4

i think for md and xd the youngters will be win, senior indonesian players often give the winning to the youngster, and for wd i prefer korean, the singapore can be beaten easily so no problem with malaysian i think.

who is youngster, Tetty 3 years older than Natsir while Nugroho younger than Widianto

Mas lead 3-1

3-1 easy placing LHJ
1-3 long
2-3 too high netting
3-3 drop shot LHJ
3-3 smash Wong
3-3 failed netting LHJ
4-3 smash MAS
4-3 long ue Chin
3-4 long ue MAS

4-4 long ret. smash
4-4 good drop shot
5-4 smash LHJ
6-4 smash KOR
7-4 net ue Wong
8-4 easy placing LHJ
4-8 smash MAS

4-8 let lob in
5-8 placing
8-5 long ret. smash
9-5 long lob ue
10-5 easy drop shot LHJ
11-5 wide ue
12-5 net ret. serv ue
13-5 easy placing LHJ
13-5 smash Wong after long rally
14-5 long lob ue
15-5 easy drop shot

Quick game,
Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won(KOR) v Chin Ei Hui/Wong Pei Tty(MAS) 15-4 15-5

Disppointing result for the Malaysians. This is a good achievement anyway.

Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED)


Mia lead 4-0
5-0 drop shot Mia
0-5 lob in
1-5 wide ue Mia
2-5 wide ue
5-2 long
6-2 let the serv. in
2-6 long
6-2 lob in, Wang out of postion
2-6 wide fe Mia

6-2 wide smash Wang
2-6 wide f.e
6-2 sharp drop shot Mia
2-6 wide ue
6-2 wide, after long rally & crossed drop shot

errr


how come you have the result for WD already

where's the result for MS

i thought MS supposedly the first final match?

2-6
3-6 good netting Wang
6-3 failed netting Wang
3-6 smash Wang
4-6 let the ball in
6-4 wide ue Wang

7-4 great crossed drop shot
4-7 long
7-4 net
4-7 crossed netting Wang
5-7 long lob Mia
6-7 net drop shot

7-6 failed netting Wang
6-7 sharp crossed drop shot Wang
7-7 long ue Mia
7-7 long lob Wang

7-4 great crossed drop shot
4-7 long
7-4 net
4-7 crossed netting Wang
5-7 long lob Mia
6-7 net drop shot

The 1st good match of the day... Thanks for the updates Sandy.

7-7 long serv.
7-7 failed netting
7-7 wide crossed ue Mia
8-7 smash, Wang lead

9-7 long f.e Mia, after long rally & shap drop shot
10-7 wide crossed ue Mia
11-7 net ue Mia

Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED) 11-7

Wang lead 11-7 1-0

2-0 smash Wang
0-2 long
2-0 wide ue Mia
0-2 placing Mia
2-0 smash Wang
3-0 placing Wang
4-0 long ue Mia

think Wang Chen is walking away wif the title..... Mia's stamina wearing out...

5-0 smash & drop shot Wang
0-5 good placing
1-5 let the ball in
5-1 sharp drop shot Wang after weak ret.
6-1 wide ue
1-6 long smash
6-1 smash Wang

7-1 failed netting Mia
1-7 good drop shot & netting from both players
7-1 smash Wang

8-1 net f.e Mia
1-8 great netting Mia

8-1 net drive Mia
9-1 smash Wang
10-1 failed netting
11-1 smash touch the net Wang

Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED) 11-7 11-1

the next match

Boonsak Polsana(THA) vs Lee Hyun-Il(KOR)

Let's go Boonsak!!!

Boonsak Polsana(THA) vs Lee Hyun-Il(KOR)

Boonsak service

1-0 long LHI
0-1 drop shot LHI
1-1 closed wide smash BP after long rally
1-1 net ret. smash LHI
2-1 wide drop shot, BP lead
3-1 jumping smash BP
4-1 failed netting
1-4 smash & smash LHI
2-4 wide BP
3-4 net ue BP

4-4 let the ball in
5-4 netting duel, LHI win
6-4 tricky placing LHI
7-4 netting & placing LHI
8-4 wide ue BP

4-4 let the ball in
5-4 netting duel, LHI win
6-4 tricky placing LHI
7-4 netting & placing LHI
8-4 wide ue BP


Come on Boonsak!!! Catch up!! Su SU!!!

Boonsak Polsana(THA) vs Lee Hyun-Il(KOR)

Boonsak service

1-0 long LHI
0-1 drop shot LHI
1-1 closed wide smash BP after long rally
1-1 net ret. smash LHI
2-1 wide drop shot, BP lead
3-1 jumping smash BP
4-1 failed netting
1-4 smash & smash LHI
2-4 wide BP
3-4 net ue BP

Come on P' Man Su SU ka!!!!;)

9-4 very closed netting LHI
4-9 wide placing
9-4 good netting LHI
4-9 wide bh drop shot

5-9 closed netting BP
9-5 good netting LHI ret closed netting BP
5-9 half smash BP
9-5 let the ball in

10-5 fast crossed netting LHI
5-10 lob ball in, LHI out of position
10-5 smash LHI
11-5 netting duel, smash winner LHI
5-11 placing BP

6-11 net LHI
11-6 wide lob
12-6 netting duel and crossed netting by LHI
13-6 wide smash BP
6-13 let the ball in

P' Man su su wai na kha...;)

13-6 smash LHI after much netting
14-6 long lob ue BP
6-14 let the ball in
7-14 smash BP
8-14 closed netting BP

9-14 smash BP
10-14 drop shot BP, after smash & netting
14-10 let the ball in
15-10 smash LHI


Lee Hyun-Il(KOR) lead Boonsak Polsana(THA) 15-10

Come on Boonsak.....Take 2nd set...Su Su!!

I ma laewwwwwwwwwwww


Man must win ......

Now set 2

BP 0 - 3 LEE

mai ben rai P'Man yang cha-naa dai su su kao wai na ka....;)

Man need turnning point like yesterday ...

Now BP 0-6

Man need turnning point like yesterday ...

Now BP 0-6

This does not look good......
COME ON BOONSAK!!!!!

Lee Hyun-Il(KOR) lead Boonsak Polsana(THA) 15-10

LHI lead 1-0
2-0 long
3-0 good drop shot LHI
4-0
5-0 failed netting BP
6-0 net ret. serv. ue
7-0 smash LHI
0-7 long smash
7-0 good crossed drop shot

BP 0-8 laew krub


yae laewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

8-0 wide lob
9-0 smash LHI after netting duel
10-0 smash LHI

Boonsak is 0-10 laew ...

.....................

0-10 long ue LHI
10-0 long serv
11-0 long lob ue BP

Boonsak is 0-11 krub .. so many unforce errors

8-0 wide lob
9-0 smash LHI after netting duel
10-0 smash LHI

Come on....break the egg!!!!

chai yae jing jing, P' Man ka su su noi na ka....nit nung k dai ti 1 laeww.....ka;)

12-0 net ue
0-12 good netting BP
12-0 failed netting BP
0-12 long f.e

Boonsak is now 0-12 ....

many unforced error and no luck at all ..

BP got first point.........................1-12

Boonsak is now 0-12 ....

many unforced error and no luck at all ..
arrggg!!!! concentrate!!

1-12 wide crossed drop shot LHI, BP out of position
2-12 long bh lob
3-12 good smash ret. BP

BP is now 3-13...


he is getting better .. but i don't know it's too late ??

BP is now 3-13...


he is getting better .. but i don't know it's too late ??

It's never too late! Come On Man!!!!

Now is BP 3-13 ..............

Lee is too good today

LEE is 14-3 ..


championship point

12-3 smash LHI, after weak bh ret.
13-3 lob in good place
14-3 long lob
3-14 good netting BP
14-3 failed netting BP
3-14 failed netting LHI
14-3 good netting LHI after much drop shot
15-3 smash LHI


Lee Hyun-Il(KOR) d Boonsak Polsana(THA) 15-10 15-3

BP lost already 10-15, 3-15

so sad krub .. but today is LEE'day jing jing ...

Man tried his best laew krub ...

good luck to Thai fans krub ..

BP lost already 10-15, 3-15

so sad krub .. but today is LEE'day jing jing ...

Man tried his best laew krub ...

good luck to Thai fans krub ..


Dang... Too bad for Man, too many errors.

My prediction
MS-(hard to predict)
WS-Mia Audina
MD-Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto
WD-Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won
MXD-Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
The home crowd really support Boonsak yesterday and he played well againts Kenneth Jonassen, while Lee Hyun Il is on his best performance after beating Sony and Lee Chong Wei... Both of them deserve to get the title...

hey sugar_free!! Lee Hyun Ill won:D :D :D

Yeah!!...Mal Boleh....

And this one will be a historical day for malaysia badminton team!!:D


yeah!
Chin/Wong of MAS, let's create the miracle at IO 2005!
Malaysia boleh!;)

Ms- Boonsak. He is a very talented player in my opinion but still lack of expirience because he seldom paticipate in tournament. He only participate in big tournament and always give a surprise by eliminating the seeded player

WD- This should go to Korean as they are better compare to Malaysian. But Malaysian still can win if they make less mistake and play at their best. Remember nothing is Impossible.


i like ur words!
Nothing is Impossible!!!;)

Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir(INA) d Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty(INA) 15-13 15-?? (I left to watch TV)

Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA)

Kidho/Setiawan took 1st set 15-10


Wijaya/Budiarto lead 2-0 2nd set

3-0 net ret. smash HS
0-3
1-3 net ue SB

2-3 net f.e SB
3-3 smash HS
4-3 net SB, MK/HS lead
5-3 failed netting CW
6-3 smash MK

7-3 smash HS
3-7 smash CW
3-7 failed netting SB
4-7 good netting SB
7-4 wide ret SB
8-4 wide CS
8-4 smash SB
4-8 flying smash SB

4-8 failed netting CW
5-8 let the ball in
6-8 placing SB
7-8 net ue HS
8-7 placing MK
9-7 net ue CW
10-7 net fe SB
11-7 wide fe SB

11-7 wide MK
7-11 wide placing lob HS
8-11 net drive HS
9-11 jumping smash by CW & SB
9-11 net SB
11-9 net fe CW

12-9 offensive play by MK/HS
12-9 short serv HS
9-12 net smash HS

10-12 placing CW
11-12 net fe HS
12-12 net fe MK
13-12 fast placing SB

13-12 smash HS
14-12 net HS, good defence CW/SB, offensive play MK/HS
15-12 long smash HS

Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) vs Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA) 10-15 15-12

come on, candra/sigit!

3rd set play

CW serv.

0-0 net ue SB
1-0 smash HS
2-0 net fe SB
3-0
4-0
5-0 smash MK
5-0 jumping smash CW
0-5 jumping smash SB
0-5 drop shot HS
5-0 net SB
6-0 bh drive HS
6-0 net serv HS
7-0 smash MK
8-0 good ret. smash MK

0-8 long ret. MK
1-8 net MK
1-8 good netting HS
8-1 good smash HS
8-1 wide bh placing
9-1 smash MK
10-1 net ue SB
1-10 net MK

2-10 wide MK, good defense CW/SB
3-10 net ue MK
3-10 smash HS
10-3 out of position SB
11-3 wide ret. smash CW
11-3 lucky net ball
12-3 smash HS
13-3 placing MK
3-13 netting SB

3-13 smash HS
13-3 long smash CW
14-3 smash MK
15-3 net smash CW

Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA) d Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) 15-10 12-15 15-3

Both pair played in fast playing, agressive play from Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan, Hendra has fast & sharp smash.

3-13 smash HS
13-3 long smash CW
14-3 smash MK
15-3 net smash CW

Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan(INA) d Chandra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto(INA) 15-10 12-15 15-3
so chandra and sigit lost ?? can't believe this:(

Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan.

This is the pair to be reckoned with. This convinced me why Choong/Lee had lost to them. I do not want to blame Choong/Lee, they are doing their best in the final years of their career. I wish to see more young Malaysian pair can match the Indonesians in terms of speed and power.

chandra/sigit kelong lah.
Whats the kelong word in bahasa indo?
rgds:D

Without the Chinese, this tournament lacks thrill.;) ;)

Without the Chinese, this tournament lacks thrill.;) ;)
but full of upsets i feel:o

Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir(INA) d Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty(INA) 15-13 15-?? (I left to watch TV)



Nova Widyanto/Lilyana Natsir(INA) d Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty(INA)
15-13 15-1

chandra/sigit kelong lah.
Whats the kelong word in bahasa indo?
rgds:D

'main mata'?? so dissapointed with this result.. I was expecting something like XD final.. when Nova/Natsir showed their true power in the second set.. but I'm also glad in the sense that Markis/Hendra have improved a lot.. (if not kelong)

Are you sure that they (Candra/Sigit) "kelong' ?? I am not sure..I guess it was just the fact that Markis and Hendra played well..they will be the Indonesian future pair in MD beside of course Luluk/Alven.....

Congratulation to Markis and Hendra:p ....Candra and Sigit...you are still one of the best pair in this world..hope to see your game again sometimes...

CS/SB give a nice opportunity to boost MK/HS' morale to become world class players...but not like Simon S...don't u think he is quite short than other proffesional MS players..??

Are you sure that they (Candra/Sigit) "kelong' ?? I am not sure..I guess it was just the fact that Markis and Hendra played well..they will be the Indonesian future pair in MD beside of course Luluk/Alven.....

Congratulation to Markis and Hendra:p ....Candra and Sigit...you are still one of the best pair in this world..hope to see your game again sometimes...

CS/SB give a nice opportunity to boost MK/HS' morale to become world class players...but not like Simon S...don't u think he is quite short than other proffesional MS players..??

for Simon.. from what I heard.. the pelatnas insider said that during training, normally Simon can match Taufik and Sony.. eg. they normally play 7 sets. Taufik won him by 4-3, or sometimes Simon won. It shows that he has a alot of talents.. i think he need to change coach to Mulyo, to prepare him mentally to play outside...

8-1 net drive Mia
9-1 smash Wang
10-1 failed netting
11-1 smash touch the net Wang

Wang Chen(HKG) vs Mia Audina(NED) 11-7 11-1
Sounds like Mia Audina ran out of gas after leading 6-2 in the first set. The tiring 3 game match with Wong Mew Choo probably has affected her play in the finals by a lot.

So, its play eye lah. I tot "kelip kelip" or "bagi chan" or "bagi muka". haha.
Its good if they can improve, certainly more enjoyable to see and keep badminton more interesting.
tks.:D

'main mata'?? so dissapointed with this result.. I was expecting something like XD final.. when Nova/Natsir showed their true power in the second set.. but I'm also glad in the sense that Markis/Hendra have improved a lot.. (if not kelong)

Simon susah lah. He needs lotsa stamina. Training and the real thing is different. Again, maybe Taufik main mata during training as well. Sometimes also because of historical achievements, maybe Taufik gets more respect from other coz he wins more tournaments. May take 1 to 2 years for Simon and of course there will be new players like Icuk's son coming in soon.:D So time is running out. I just love to see Icuk did his back hand smash. Missed it. Like a bull! Must be drinking lotsa "Red Bull".:eek:

for Simon.. from what I heard.. the pelatnas insider said that during training, normally Simon can match Taufik and Sony.. eg. they normally play 7 sets. Taufik won him by 4-3, or sometimes Simon won. It shows that he has a alot of talents.. i think he need to change coach to Mulyo, to prepare him mentally to play outside...

yes, I saw the match live. She's not on form and totally outplayed her own self. But it seems that she's thinner now and can really run around the court which amazes me with some of the dropshot retrievals.:crying: Reminds me of susi. Alan was there in the hall. Didn't see her.

Sounds like Mia Audina ran out of gas after leading 6-2 in the first set. The tiring 3 game match with Wong Mew Choo probably has affected her play in the finals by a lot.

Congrats to MarkisK&HendraS...They have now won back to back "big" tourneys..They were my "dark horse" pair in the MD event, prior to them winning. But now, after winning their last 2 tourneys, i'm expecting them to continue their *magnificent* performance in the upcoming tourneys..
Perhaps PBSI intention of not allowing them to come to the recent WC "did wonders" to their psyche, playing like "gangbusters" lately..PBSI must be smiling now upstairs..:) :rolleyes: :cool:

We shall see how MK/HS perform in the near future. Hopefully their latest success will boost their confidence and they won't become overconfident and lazy. Personally, I think, they are more "consistent" than the Alven/Luluk pairing.. :rolleyes: :)

Markis Kidho/Hendra Setiawan.

This is the pair to be reckoned with. This convinced me why Choong/Lee had lost to them. I do not want to blame Choong/Lee, they are doing their best in the final years of their career. I wish to see more young Malaysian pair can match the Indonesians in terms of speed and power.

Congrats to MarkisK&HendraS...They have now won back to back "big" tourneys..They were my "dark horse" pair in the MD event, prior to them winning. But now, after winning their last 2 tourneys, i'm expecting them to continue their *magnificent* performance in the upcoming tourneys..
Perhaps PBSI intention of not allowing them to come to the recent WC "did wonders" to their psyche, playing like "gangbusters" lately..PBSI must be smiling now upstairs..:) :rolleyes: :cool:

We shall see how MK/HS perform in the near future. Hopefully their latest success will boost their confidence and they won't become overconfident and lazy. Personally, I think, they are more "consistent" than the Alven/Luluk pairing.. :rolleyes: :)

My congrats too...and my predictions did come true. I think they were personally disappointed not being sent to the WC last mth. Although I don't think they can reach the semi-final (as was the target by PBSI), I thought a quarter-final berth will be reachable. Instead, Flandy/Eng Hian (who were ranked lower) were sent and got into the quarter-final. Of course, its time for Markis/Hendra to win a tournament or two this year after the recent disappointments at Singapore and Malaysia Open.

I am glad that they show their true potential by winning two back-to-back tournaments. Along the way, they have beaten several top pairs, including no 6 ranked Jung Jae Sung/Lee Jae Jin (whom I reckon will be their biggest threat to be world no 1 in the coming years), former world champions and world no 1 Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto, world no 3 Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen, and world no 11 Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock.

I watched the match just now and was impressed by the sheer attacking power of the young duo. Candra/Sigit (who were normally good in defense) simply could not respond in the first and last set. I also agree with your comment that this young pair has more prospect than Luluk/Alven. Both are only 21 years old...(at least 3 years younger than Luluk/Alven) and along with Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi (23/20), I rate these two pairs as Indonesia's main double pairs in the coming years to come. Hendra/Joko is slowly moving up and will be ranked no 25 by next week.

Some reliable source told me that sometimes when players from both countries face each other in the finals, under certain special circumstances , the lower ranked players will be "given" the win for the purpose for higher ranking points to advance for future tournaments. Like what i said, only under special circumstances. I'm not implying this happen in the recently concluded Indo Open.

Can someone be kind enough to translate this article (in Indonesian) to the ppl here? I am a little bit too lazy to do that at the moment (need to wake up early in the morning)...hehe...perhaps ctjcad can do that....:D thanks in advance!

INDONESIA OPEN 2005 AJANG PEMBUKTIAN GANDA MARKIS/HENDRA Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan membuktikan diri mereka sebagai calon ganda putra terkuat Indonesia setelah menundukkan pasangan nomor satu dunia Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto pada final turnamen Djarum Indonesia Terbuka 2005, Minggu.

Markis/Kido berhasil merebut mahkota juara turnamen berhadiah total 250.000 dollar AS itu setelah menang tiga set, 15-10, 12-15, 15-3 di Istora Gelora Bung Karno, Jakarta.

Melalui permainan cepat dan penempatan bola silang yang akurat, Markis/Kido berhasil memimpin jauh 11-3 pada set pertama. Candra/Sigit berhasil mengejar hingga 10-13, akan tetapi sebuah smes keras Hendra membuat finalis Kejuaraan Dunia 2005 itu harus kehilangan set pertama, 10-15.

Candra/Sigit bangkit pada set kedua dan menunjukkan mengapa mereka disebut-sebut sebagai pasangan yang memiliki pertahanan terbaik di dunia. Tertinggal 8-11, mereka malah berhasil mengejar dan memenangkan set tersebut 15-12.

Markis/Kido rupanya benar-benar ingin membuktikan bahwa mereka telah pantas untuk menggantikan senior mereka tersebut dengan menunjukkan permainan yang sangat baik pada set ketiga. Tanpa kesulitan, pasangan yang telah bersama sejak 2003 itu langsung melaju 8-0.

Sebuah pukulan Candra yang menyangkut di net, memastikan Markis/Kido memperoleh gelar kedua setelah mereka memenangkan Kejuaraan Asia 2005 di Hyderabad pada 6 September lalu.

"Kami senang bisa mengalahkan pasangan terbaik di dunia dan membuktikan bahwa kami mampu untuk menjadi juara," kata Markis Kido usai pertandingan.

Menurut dia, kegagalan untuk berangkat ke Kejuaraan Dunia di Anaheim California Agustus lalu menjadi motivasi besar untuk merebut sebanyak-banyaknya gelar, termasuk Indonesia Terbuka.

Pasangan yang menempati peringkat 10 IBF itu lalu mengatakan bahwa target berikut mereka adalah mencapai prestasi terbaik pada Belanda Terbuka pada 11-16 Oktober dan Denmark Terbuka yang berlangsung 18-23 Oktober.

Sementara itu Candra dan Sigit mengakui bahwa permainan junior mereka kali itu memang jauh lebih baik dan sangat pantas untuk menjadi juara.

"Mereka memainkan bola-bola cepat dengan baik dan kami tidak bisa mengimbangi mereka," kata Sigit mengomentari kekalahannya pada final itu.

Sigit juga menyatakan bahwa Markis/Kido telah pantas untuk disebut sebagai calon pengganti mereka sebagai pasangan terbaik Indonesia dan dunia.

"Kami berharap permainan mereka terus konsisten dan berkembang makin pesat," ujarnya.

Sementara Candra mengaku tidak terlalu kecewa terhadap kegagalan mereka untuk menjadi juara setelah sebelumnya mereka juga gagal menjadi juara dunia, kalah dari pasangan Amerika Serikat, Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach.

"Pencapaian ini sudah maksimal dan tidak semua orang bisa mencapai final. Lagipula yang mengalahkan kami adalah para junior yang akan menggantikan kami. Namun kami yakin bisa berbuat lebih baik dari pada hari ini," kata Candra lalu mengatakan bahwa mereka akan segera melupakan kekalahan ini dan menatap ke depan.

Dengan kemenangan itu, Markis/Kido memperoleh hadiah sebesar 18.000 dollar AS, sementara Candra/Sigit mengantungi 10.000 dollar AS.(*)

Some reliable source told me that sometimes when players from both countries face each other in the finals, under certain special circumstances , the lower ranked players will be "given" the win for the purpose for higher ranking points to advance for future tournaments. Like what i said, only under special circumstances. I'm not implying this happen in the recently concluded Indo Open.

It could happen...as we have seen pretty frequently in women's doubles involving young and senior Chinese pairs. To players like Candra/Sigit, winning another Indonesia Open (which they have won twice) probably won't mean as much as winning the All England or World Championships. So, they could probably have relaxed a bit and see how far their juniors can go. But, Markis/Hendra is playing very well and they fully deserve they title after beating two former world champions.

We also saw in the mixed doubles that Nova/Butet somehow look pretty relaxed in the first set and allowed their younger compatriot to close behind 13-14. Only when they showed their true power in the second set that we could see which is the better pair at the moment. Anggun/Tetty still has a lot to improve....especially Anggun!

I've been away for a month so i might have missed the explanation to this, but why do the chinese players not play in this?

We shall see how MK/HS perform in the near future. Hopefully their latest success will boost their confidence and they won't become overconfident and lazy. Personally, I think, they are more "consistent" than the Alven/Luluk pairing.. :rolleyes: :)

Congratulations to Markis and Hendra! They were so inspired during the match and deserved the win. IMHO they understand each other much better than the Alven/Luluk pair. And they do not quarrel. :) Hopefully they would not become complacent in future.

Sure, here goes the translation. I noticed Antara news made some typo, naming Markis/Kido instead of Markis/Hendra...

Indonesia Open 2005 A Proven Ground for Men's Double pair Markis/Hendra, Jakarta (ANTARA News)- Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan proved themselves as one of Indonesia's Men Double's strongest candidate, after defeating the no.1 ranked Men Double pair in the world Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto in the Final of the 2005 Djarum Indonesia Open, Sunday.

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiwawan successfully grabbed the Men Double's title, with a prized money of US$250,000 after winning in 3 sets, 15-10, 12-15, 15-3 at Istora Gelora Bung Karno, Jakarta.

Utilizing fast rallies and accurate cross court shots, Markis/Hendra were able to lead 11-3 in the first game. Candra/Sigit was able to catch up the score until 10-13, but a hard smash from Hendra forced the 2005 World Championship's finalist to relinquish the 1st game, 10-15.

But Candra/Sigit rose to the occasion in the 2nd game and proved why they have been called many times as having one of the best defense in the world. Trailing 8-11, they were able to catch up and won the 2nd game 15-12.

Hendra/Hendra apparently wanted to prove that they deserve to be the ones to replace their seniors by showing a very stable game in the 3rd game. Without any difficulties, the pair which have been together since 2003 quickly led 8-0.

Candra's shot which returned to the net, all but guaranteed Markis/Hendra winning the title after their victory in the 2005 Asian Badminton Championship in Hyderabad last September 6th.

"We are happy to be able to defeat the best pair in the world and proved that we are capable of becoming a champion" said Markis Kido after the match.

According to him, their failure of going to the World Championship in Anaheim, California last August became their biggest motivation for them to win as many titles, including the Indonesian Open.

The pair which currently ranked no. 10 in the world, said their next main target is to reach the best possible result in the Dutch Open on October 11-16 and Denmark Open which is slated for October 18-23.

Meanwhile, Candra and Sigit acknowledged that the play of their juniors was much better and they deserved to be champions.

"They played very fast rallies against us and we weren't able to match them" said Sigit commenting on their Final match's defeat.

Sigit also said Markis/Hendra deserved to be "called" as their "successor" as "Indonesia's and World's best pair".--- :eek: :rolleyes: :cool:

"We hope their game can be consistent and keep improving even more" he said.

Meanwhile Candra acknowledged he wasn't disappointed with their defeat after recently failing to become World Champions, losing from the American pair, Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach.

"This result is already maximum and not everyone can reach the Final. Besides, the pair who defeated us are our juniors who will replace us. But we feel we can do much better than today" said Candra who also said they will quickly forget this defeat and look forward ahead.

With this win, Markis/Hendra will take a large prize money of US$18.000, while Candra/Sigit collected US$10,000.

Can someone be kind enough to translate this article (in Indonesian) to the ppl here? I am a little bit too lazy to do that at the moment (need to wake up early in the morning)...hehe...perhaps ctjcad can do that....:D thanks in advance!

INDONESIA OPEN 2005 AJANG PEMBUKTIAN GANDA MARKIS/HENDRA Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan membuktikan diri mereka sebagai calon ganda putra terkuat Indonesia setelah menundukkan pasangan nomor satu dunia Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto pada final turnamen Djarum Indonesia Terbuka 2005, Minggu.

Markis/Kido berhasil merebut mahkota juara turnamen berhadiah total 250.000 dollar AS itu setelah menang tiga set, 15-10, 12-15, 15-3 di Istora Gelora Bung Karno, Jakarta.

Melalui permainan cepat dan penempatan bola silang yang akurat, Markis/Kido berhasil memimpin jauh 11-3 pada set pertama. Candra/Sigit berhasil mengejar hingga 10-13, akan tetapi sebuah smes keras Hendra membuat finalis Kejuaraan Dunia 2005 itu harus kehilangan set pertama, 10-15.

Candra/Sigit bangkit pada set kedua dan menunjukkan mengapa mereka disebut-sebut sebagai pasangan yang memiliki pertahanan terbaik di dunia. Tertinggal 8-11, mereka malah berhasil mengejar dan memenangkan set tersebut 15-12.

Markis/Kido rupanya benar-benar ingin membuktikan bahwa mereka telah pantas untuk menggantikan senior mereka tersebut dengan menunjukkan permainan yang sangat baik pada set ketiga. Tanpa kesulitan, pasangan yang telah bersama sejak 2003 itu langsung melaju 8-0.

Sebuah pukulan Candra yang menyangkut di net, memastikan Markis/Kido memperoleh gelar kedua setelah mereka memenangkan Kejuaraan Asia 2005 di Hyderabad pada 6 September lalu.

"Kami senang bisa mengalahkan pasangan terbaik di dunia dan membuktikan bahwa kami mampu untuk menjadi juara," kata Markis Kido usai pertandingan.

Menurut dia, kegagalan untuk berangkat ke Kejuaraan Dunia di Anaheim California Agustus lalu menjadi motivasi besar untuk merebut sebanyak-banyaknya gelar, termasuk Indonesia Terbuka.

Pasangan yang menempati peringkat 10 IBF itu lalu mengatakan bahwa target berikut mereka adalah mencapai prestasi terbaik pada Belanda Terbuka pada 11-16 Oktober dan Denmark Terbuka yang berlangsung 18-23 Oktober.

Sementara itu Candra dan Sigit mengakui bahwa permainan junior mereka kali itu memang jauh lebih baik dan sangat pantas untuk menjadi juara.

"Mereka memainkan bola-bola cepat dengan baik dan kami tidak bisa mengimbangi mereka," kata Sigit mengomentari kekalahannya pada final itu.

Sigit juga menyatakan bahwa Markis/Kido telah pantas untuk disebut sebagai calon pengganti mereka sebagai pasangan terbaik Indonesia dan dunia.

"Kami berharap permainan mereka terus konsisten dan berkembang makin pesat," ujarnya.

Sementara Candra mengaku tidak terlalu kecewa terhadap kegagalan mereka untuk menjadi juara setelah sebelumnya mereka juga gagal menjadi juara dunia, kalah dari pasangan Amerika Serikat, Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach.

"Pencapaian ini sudah maksimal dan tidak semua orang bisa mencapai final. Lagipula yang mengalahkan kami adalah para junior yang akan menggantikan kami. Namun kami yakin bisa berbuat lebih baik dari pada hari ini," kata Candra lalu mengatakan bahwa mereka akan segera melupakan kekalahan ini dan menatap ke depan.

Dengan kemenangan itu, Markis/Kido memperoleh hadiah sebesar 18.000 dollar AS, sementara Candra/Sigit mengantungi 10.000 dollar AS.(*)

yes, I saw the match live. She's not on form and totally outplayed her own self. But it seems that she's thinner now and can really run around the court which amazes me with some of the dropshot retrievals.:crying: Reminds me of susi. Alan was there in the hall. Didn't see her.

Do you guys/gals think MC can match Wang Chen if she was in the final?

yeah!
Chin/Wong of MAS, let's create the miracle at IO 2005!
Malaysia boleh!;)

Chin/Wong were totally outplayed by Lee/Lee. I think Chin/Wong still has a lot to learn. Their smashes are not powerful. net play not tight enough and too many enforce errors made. I hope Rexy can make them become a formidable pair. During the final they made too many mistakes and enfore errors and slow too making Lee/Lee earning easy points. Lee/Lee were good but its difficult to judge as the Chinese pairs were not there.

Chin/Wong were totally outplayed by Lee/Lee. I think Chin/Wong still has a lot to learn. Their smashes are not powerful. net play not tight enough and too many enforce errors made. I hope Rexy can make them become a formidable pair. During the final they made too many mistakes and enfore errors and slow too making Lee/Lee earning easy points. Lee/Lee were good but its difficult to judge as the Chinese pairs were not there.

Their coach is Cheah Soon Kit, don't know how much contact they have with Rexy. If they can beat Saralee/Sathinee, I don't see why they should go out easily to anyone, so perhaps it's a matter of consistency.

Do you guys/gals think MC can match Wang Chen if she was in the final?
I would guess no, as Wang Chen has dominated over Wong Mew Choo everytime they meet.

Their coach is Cheah Soon Kit, don't know how much contact they have with Rexy. If they can beat Saralee/Sathinee, I don't see why they should go out easily to anyone, so perhaps it's a matter of consistency.

I thought I saw Rexy and Kim Hock on the coach seats yesterday during the match. I guess Soon Kit was not there. I think Rexy should take over this pair to improve on their smashing and speed and let Soon Kit groom other pairs.

I would guess no, as Wang Chen has dominated over Wong Mew Choo everytime they meet.

Hmm...how many times have they meet? From the Final look like Wang Chen was way too superior than Mia.

Hmm...how many times have they meet? From the Final look like Wang Chen was way too superior than Mia.
Actually Mia and Wang Chen had met countless time and they beat each other. I do not know the head-to-head record, though.

Mia was not so focus in her final match yesterday, partly because she's in rush to catch the plane. She flew back to Holland just after the game...

Actually Mia and Wang Chen had met countless time and they beat each other. I do not know the head-to-head record, though.

Mia was not so focus in her final match yesterday, partly because she's in rush to catch the plane. She flew back to Holland just after the game...

if i din hear the commentator wrongly, think i heard her saying they've met 14 times n head-to-head is 7-7... so Wang Chen made it 8-7 yesterday... :rolleyes:

if i din hear the commentator wrongly, think i heard her saying they've met 14 times n head-to-head is 7-7... so Wang Chen made it 8-7 yesterday... :rolleyes:
From www.worldbadminton.net


PLAYER HEAD-TO-HEAD

Mia AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=4327&firstrec=0&recno=1&recs=1&searchplayernumber=4327) 7 - 7 Chen WANG ~ (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/biography.asp?pnumber=5882&firstrec=0&recno=1&recs=1&searchplayernumber=5882) http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/uploads/4327b.JPG NED National Authority HKG http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/uploads/5882g.jpg 22 Aug 1979 Date of Birth 21 Jun 1976 Jakarta Place of Birth Beijing, China 161 Height 170 - Weight - Right Right/Left Handed Right
Year Tournament & Nation Round Winner Score 2004 YONEX ALL ENGLAND OPEN 2004
ENGLAND Quarter-Finals AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 11-5 11-0 2003 CHINA OPEN 2003
P. R. OF CHINA Quarter-Finals WANG ~ 8-11 5-11 2003 CHINESE TAIPEI OPEN 2003
CHINESE TAIPEI Semi-Finals AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 11-2 11-3 2003 Korea Open 2003
KOREA Gold Medal Final AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 11-3 10-13 11-0 1998 Japan Open 1998 (I)
JAPAN Quarter-Finals WANG ~ 3-11 6-11 1997 World Championships 1997 (I)
SCOTLAND Quarter-Finals WANG ~ 6-11 4-11 1996 Indonesia Open 1996 (I)
INDONESIA Semi-Finals WANG ~ 2-11 11-4 8-11 1995 All England Open 1995
ENGLAND Quarter-Finals AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 10-12 12-11 12-10 Team Tournaments Year Tournament & Nation Round Winner Score 2003 Sudirman Cup 2003
NETHERLANDS TEAM WANG ~ 6-11 8-11 2002 Uber Cup Finals (CHN) 2002 TF
P. R. OF CHINA TEAM AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 7-5 7-1 7-5 1997 World Grand Prix Finals 97 IR
INDONESIA TEAM AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 12-9 7-11 12-9 1996 World Cup 1996 (IR)
INDONESIA TEAM WANG ~ 9-11 11-3 7-11 1996 Uber Cup Finals 1996
HONG KONG TEAM AUDINA TJIPTAWAN ~ 11-4 11-6 1995 World Grand Prix Finals 95 IR
SINGAPORE TEAM WANG ~ 12-11 10-8

Sigit also said Markis/Hendra deserved to be "called" as their "successor" as "Indonesia's and World's best pair".--- :eek: :rolleyes: :cool:

"We hope their game can be consistent and keep improving even more" he said.

ctcad, did Sigit really put it that way? Maybe the writer put it incorrectly.
I believe the following is what Sigit really said about Markis/Hendra after the match.
(Quoted by KoranTempo 26/9/2005)
"Mereka bisa menjadi penerus kami jika tetap konsisten dengan permainan yang seperti ini."

It's really different, isn't it? :)

(Quoted by KoranTempo 26/9/2005)
"Mereka bisa menjadi penerus kami jika tetap konsisten dengan permainan yang seperti ini."

It's really different, isn't it? :)

Can anyone pls translate the above sentence? Thank you... :)

Badmincraze, maybe it goes like this :

"They will be our next generation (means Indonesian future pair after Candra/Sigit) if they are consistent like they played today (in the Indonesian Open 2005 Final)"

Hope you get it:p

Inonesian player played so well yesterday..that means..Indonesian donimation in dobles (mens and mixed) grwoth so well, and show to us regeneration in the final match yesterday..
Go..go..Badminton Indonesia..http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
(I Love My Country..he..he..http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif)

Badmincraze, maybe it goes like this :

"They will be our next generation (means Indonesian future pair after Candra/Sigit) if they are consistent like they played today (in the Indonesian Open 2005 Final)"

Hope you get it:p

Thank you so much, Peace !! :D

Lee Hyun Il on Sunday became the first South
Korean to win the men's singles in the Indonesian
Open badminton tournament when he beat
Thailand's Boonsak Ponsana in straight sets 15-
10, 15-3.;)


"I feel happy," said Lee through an interpreter after
taking the title and the 20,000-dollar prize, saying
he had pushed for rapid rallies after realizing that
Boonsak was avoiding fast games.

Lee said he had had to exert himself more when
facing Indonesia' s Sonny Dwi Kuncoro in the semi-
finals. He got through to the finals of the 250,000
dollar event only after a tough rubber of 6-15, 15-7,
15-7. :D

"I have to admit that my opponent is much better,
his smashes are very steep and fast. I did not
think the game would go that fast," Boonsak said.

"In the second set, I did not know what to do."

In the all-Indonesian mixed doubles finals, first-
seeded team Nova Widianto and Liliyana Natsir
beat Anggun Nugroho and Yunita Tetty, seeded
seventh, 15-13, 15-1.

In the men's doubles, also an all-Indonesian affair,
the day's only rubber match ended in an upset win.
Seventh-seeded Markis Kidho and Hendra
Setiawan defeated first-seeded Candra Wijaya and
Sigit Budiarto 15-10, 12-15, 15-1.

In the women's singles final Hong Kong's Wang
Chen easily beat Indonesian-born Dutch star Mia
Audina Tjiptawan 11-7, 11-1.

In the women's doubles, South Korea's Lee Kyung
Won and Lee Hyo Jung defeated Malaysia's Wong
Pei Tty and Chin Eei Hui 15-4, 15-5.
;)

Badmincraze, maybe it goes like this :

"They will be our next generation (means Indonesian future pair after Candra/Sigit) if they are consistent like they played today (in the Indonesian Open 2005 Final)"

Hope you get it:p

I think it's more like this :

They COULD be our future successor ( as Indonesia's no 1 MD & one of world greatests ) if they could maintain their consistency playing like this ( the way they beat Chandra & Sigit ).