Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan

[Ningtyas]

How far this young Indonesian pair can go?
I saw them play for the first time on 2005 Indo Open final. What a play! They were amazing. Dahsyat!

"Untuk bola-bola tipis, Markis dan Hendra memang yang terbaik," said MD coach Herry Iman Pierngadi in Tabloid Bola. Meaning : Markis and Hendra are the best for "bola-bola tipis" (steep shots?).

The Malaysian pair they beat on the semifinal looks so frustrated with Markis/Hendra's attacks. Even Candra and Sigit had no answers for their amazing shots. Until now they have beaten almost all best MD pairs in the world such as Cai/Fu, Sigit/Candra, Jonas/Lars, and Tony/Howard in several tournaments.

It was indeed a huge dissappointment for them when they failed to participate in the 05 WC. But I think it was also *a blessing in disguise*. The failure did give them the highest motivation to prove themselves.
"Kami bertekad untuk meraih gelar sebanyak-banyaknya," say Markis Kido to Seputar Indonesia daily newspaper. (Translation : "We eager to win titles as many as we can.")
"Kami ingin membuktikan bahwa kami layak dikirim ke turnamen berkelas seperti kejuaraan dunia." ("We wish to prove that we deserve to be sent to world-class tournament such as the World Championship").

Time will tell, but I do believe that Markis Kidho (not Kido)/Hendra Setiawan have the potential to be the future world champion!

[valentino]

I'm looking forward for more of their competitions!

[Phydhel]

Very true indeed, i can see the exploding aura from this pair. They are 100% capable of becoming the next Candra/Sigit if not better.

[Ningtyas]

Ya, I hope so. Hendra Setiawan have excellent smash in front of the net. Not just fast and powerful, but the angle is just unbelievable. It's remind me of similar shots by Park Joo Bong. Excellent! Can't wait to see their next action.

Hope they continue to perform their best everytime they play.

[sugar_free]

I remember after they won the Indo Open final, they were asked whether they are ready to be the next World Champion or not. "Siap jadi Juara Dunia?" (Are you ready to be the World Champion?) and both of them (Hendra, followed by Kidho) said "Siap" (Ready)... Well, I just hope that they will do their best and be the next World Champion just like their seniors before... Btw, were they semi-finalist or the finalist of the World Junior Championship in 2000?

[Melmel]

Hi all! anyone of you would kindly post their pictures here?

[yuichiru_cloudy]

well..i read in Bola that Sutiyoso said to them, prepare your self in next match.

i think that mean they will be sent in next match not Chandra-Sigit.:p
finally Indonesia got a new-talented player..
hopely they will got a success.

[badMania]

well..i read in Bola that Sutiyoso said to them, prepare your self in next match.

i think that mean they will be sent in next match not Chandra-Sigit.:p
finally Indonesia got a new-talented player..
hopely they will got a success.

Markis/Hendra will be sent to compete in the coming Holland Open and Denmark Open 2005. They will also be going to the SEA Games in Manila.

However, it seems that Rudi Hartono is still skeptical about the pair. He said that their victory at the Indo Open was because it happened that they faced Candra/Sigit (an old pair) and it was held in Jakarta. Plus the fact that the Chinese pairs were not even there. The test will come in the Denmark or China Open and he expected that they WIN at least either one tournament to show that they really can become Indonesia's no 1 pair.

Oh come on....it will be tough for any pair to win at Denmark or China Open and u expect them to win AT LEAST one? In my opinion, a semi-final placing in the 5* and 6* rated tournaments and a top 5 ranking by the end of the year will be a good achievement for this young pair.

I am thinking that he's being too demanding and a little unfair! What about Luluk/Alven....they haven't even won a single tournament yet this year. Let alone Flandy/Eng Hian, whom I think should retire since last year's Olympic.

I do agree that the real test will come in the Thomas Cup. I am pretty confident that they can beat China's second pair of Sang Yang/Zheng Bo. However, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun will be a tougher nut to crack. But the same thing apply to other Indo pair. They seem to have difficulty playing against this Chinese pair.


This is the quote from the article in Bola.
Ketua Bidang Pembinaan Prestasi dan Pelatnas PB PBSI, Rudy Hartono, mengaku puas dengan hasil yang dicapai Kido/Hendra meski dengan catatan.
“Saya puas, tapi gelar juara itu tidak menjadi ukuran karena mereka bermain di Indonesia dan lawannya Candra/Sigit. Tapi, tolong buktikan bisa atau tidak menang di Hong Kong dan Cina Terbuka? Tidak usah jadi juara di dua tempat itu, cukup satu saja,” tegas Rudy.

Untuk ganda putra, diharapkan Kido/Hendra bisa menempa diri lebih gigih. “Bukan maksud saya meremehkan, tapi di Indonesia Terbuka yang dihadapi adalah Candra/Sigit, yang sudah tidak muda lagi. Sekarang, bagaimana caranya bisa menang melawan Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun? Itu lawan kita yang sesungguhnya karena Cina kalau untuk Piala Thomas akan luar biasa mati-matian,” tambahnya.

[Ningtyas]

Btw, were they semi-finalist or the finalist of the World Junior Championship in 2000?

I don't think so. As far as know, Markis Kidho and Hendra Setiawan were just paired up in 2003. It was Christian Hadinata who "menjodohkan mereka." Before that Markis used to be paired with Hendra Riyadi, didn't he?

[Ningtyas]

well..i read in Bola that Sutiyoso said to them, prepare your self in next match.

i think that mean they will be sent in next match not Chandra-Sigit.:p
finally Indonesia got a new-talented player..
hopely they will got a success.

Another media say it differently. It is said that Sutiyoso told Markis and Hendra, "Prepare yourself for the Thomas Cup."
Most likely Markis/Hendra will be included in the TC team. Good for them !

[Ningtyas]

Markis/Hendra will be sent to compete in the coming Holland Open and Denmark Open 2005. They will also be going to the SEA Games in Manila.

However, it seems that Rudi Hartono is still skeptical about the pair. He said that their victory at the Indo Open was because it happened that they faced Candra/Sigit (an old pair) and it was held in Jakarta. Plus the fact that the Chinese pairs were not even there. The test will come in the Denmark or China Open and he expected that they WIN at least either one tournament to show that they really can become Indonesia's no 1 pair.

Oh come on....it will be tough for any pair to win at Denmark or China Open and u expect them to win AT LEAST one? In my opinion, a semi-final placing in the 5* and 6* rated tournaments and a top 5 ranking by the end of the year will be a good achievement for this young pair.

I am thinking that he's being too demanding and a little unfair! What about Luluk/Alven....they haven't even won a single tournament yet this year. Let alone Flandy/Eng Hian, whom I think should retire since last year's Olympic.

Maybe Rudy Hartono said so just to motivate Markis/Hendra further, so that Markis/Hendra will have another 'proving ground' after the Indo Open. :)

[Ningtyas]

I don't think so. As far as know, Markis Kidho and Hendra Setiawan were just paired up in 2003. It was Christian Hadinata who "menjodohkan mereka." Before that Markis used to be paired with Hendra Riyadi, didn't he?
Ups sorry, it's a typo. Markis Kidho's former partner is Hendra A Gunawan, who is now paired with Joko Riyadi.

[chiamhc]

No matter what had happened, Indonesia double players are fearsome and unpredictable in their tactic. Their players can combination well and switching partners even make them more unpredictable.

Their young players keep on making names in the world badminton arena. Other than Malaysia, the rest still have a lot to catch up. Else, in years to come we will see the same scenario as to what had happened to F1, the race is dominated by a few driver. We will see that the sport is losing its popularity.

[Only CW]

Does anyone have any information about Hendra Setiawan?? He and his partner play very well. How old is he? he looks very young and energetic...he is so cool but very nice...

[verinee@yey]

he is 22 years old....ya he's cool n nice

[Only CW]

22?! I thought he was younger. It's so pity that there is few pictures in China Open. I met Hendra several times in China open, he is nice when I ask for his signature. Very lovely when he smiles......

[badMania]

22?! I thought he was younger. It's so pity that there is few pictures in China Open. I met Hendra several times in China open, he is nice when I ask for his signature. Very lovely when he smiles......

He is "very shy" according to Ko Herry IP :D

[Only CW]

He is "very shy" according to Ko Herry IP :D
:eek: what does it mean??:confused:

[taufik-ist]

:eek: what does it mean??:confused:

he doesn't 'talk' to much :D

[esther]

This pair are keep improving many;)

[yannie]

Markis Kido
Malaysia Open 2007

[Only CW]

any more,yannie?:D

[haifeng4ever]

Kido looks kinda fierce. Never seen him smile.

[yannie]

any more,yannie?:D

not at the moment.
actually your nickname stands for only candra wijaya, right? but can be interpreted as only chong wei also.

[cooler]

Kido looks kinda fierce. Never seen him smile.
he is constantly thinking about jumpsmashing:D

[emmsfan]

His jump smashes are wonderful, despite his lack of height, but it doesn't matter, he's doing a good job!!

[yannie]

According to www.doha-2006.com (http://www.doha-2006.com)

Markis Kido is 164cm tall. http://www.doha-2006.com/gis/SPORTS/CO/IGCOParticipantInfo.aspx?Register=5802006

And Hendra Setiawan is 181 cm tall. http://www.doha-2006.com/gis/SPORTS/CO/IGCOParticipantInfo.aspx?Register=5802007

[Only CW]

not at the moment.
actually your nickname stands for only candra wijaya, right? but can be interpreted as only chong wei also.

yeah.. you are quite quite:D originally it's for candra wijaya.. but not bad for chongwei...haha:cool: both my favorite

[yannie]

Markis Kido:
http://www.doha-2006.com/img/photo/5802006.jpg

Hendra Setiawan:
http://www.doha-2006.com/img/photo/5802007.jpg

[yannie]

Just a pic of Hendra S.

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/91/01/18371019/568985677l.jpg

[Only CW]

wow, nice nice nice pic!!:D

[yannie]

Another pic of Markis-Hendra

I wonder why sooooooooooo many INA badminton players from are called Hendra. Juniors as well.

[yannie]

Hendra Setiawan....

[Only CW]

I can count his beard pretty well, :D this one hasn't showed his charm compared with the previous one....heihei, but also good ha

[JaCk™]

this pair will be split up soon right??

[bic33]

what?? they're a good pair! is there any reason that they'll be broken up?.. i mean, individually speaking, they're the two best MD players from INA... (with the exception of CW)

[JaCk™]

isn't it Markis with Luluk and Alven with Hendra? or Markis with Alven and Luluk with Hendra? I heard PBSI is experimenting with these two new pairs.

[sugar_free]

I heard it will be Markis and Luluk, Alven and Hendra... How come they put Markis and Luluk together? Both of them are short...

[badMania]

I heard it will be Markis and Luluk, Alven and Hendra... How come they put Markis and Luluk together? Both of them are short...

No more...Kido is still paired with Hendra, while Luluk still sticks to Alvent.

[alfa-2]

experimenting again.......hope it works for INA team.......they havent been consistent enough lately in MD events (except for the old combo)....

[alfa-2]

same like MAS MD, which solely depends on KKK/TBH.....

[yannie]

Why look so unhappy when you've beaten Cai/Fu?

[cooler]

Why look so unhappy when you've beaten Cai/Fu?
they're still in disbelief:p

[JaCk™]

Markis and Hendra are always quiet and serious, especially Markis. So serious when playing. I like to see Markis power smash. Lots of such players in badminton academy. Short but explosive.

[kimpe_bultang]

Heard frm someone that Markis was sick/injured.. But, then, heard again from Ko Hendra that Markis's well again... So glad.. :D They'll be going to Aviva S'pore Open, Superleague Indo, n maybe Indo Open too..

[badMania]

Heard frm someone that Markis was sick/injured.. But, then, heard again from Ko Hendra that Markis's well again... So glad.. :D They'll be going to Aviva S'pore Open, Superleague Indo, n maybe Indo Open too..

Given that it's the home event, they WILL DEFINITELY have to compete in the Indonesia Open 2007.

[meiying]

OMG.. I hope Markis is not injured/sick. I wanna see him play. I hope they will have good results in these 2 tournaments..Come on Markis!!!!

[yannie]

OMG.. I hope Markis is not injured/sick. I wanna see him play. I hope they will have good results in these 2 tournaments..Come on Markis!!!!

Hahahaha it's good to see Mei Ying give her full support to her favourite player, namely Markis Kido!!!

[kimpe_bultang]

OMG.. I hope Markis is not injured/sick. I wanna see him play. I hope they will have good results in these 2 tournaments..Come on Markis!!!!
Dun worry, Mei Ying, he has recovered.. Ko Hendra assured me so.. Hahahahahhaha..:D :D Let's just hope he won't get injured again, Ko Hendra too.. And other players..:cool:

[RRen1/26]

yupz2...lets pray for the best for kido/hendra in this 2 tournament (spore n indo) i juz cant stand watching them lose anymore, huaaa....

[ctjcad]

..just want to share this small news as INA top's MD pair are being prepared for the upcoming WC..
http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2239&Itemid=2

Berlatih Menggunakan Bola "Kura-Kura"
Written by Kompas
Thursday, 19 July 2007
Jakarta, kompas - Berbeda dengan dua ganda lainnya, Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto dan Joko Riyadi/Hendra AG, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan tidak tampil dalam turnamen Filipina Terbuka yang berlangsung 17-22 Juli. Mereka lebih difokuskan untuk tampil dalam Kejuaraan Dunia, 13-19 Agustus, di Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"Kami memang akan lebih disiapkan untuk main di Kejuaraan Dunia," komentar Kido, Rabu (18/7), yang pekan lalu bertanding di kejuaraan China Masters dan lolos hingga ke final.

Dalam turnamen tersebut, Kido/Hendra kalah di final dari ganda asal tuan rumah, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, lawan yang dikalahkan mereka saat menjuarai China Terbuka 2006.

Untuk Kejuaraan Dunia nanti, Kido mengatakan, program latihan dia dan Hendra akan lebih fokus untuk meningkatkan kekuatan. Hal ini dilakukan untuk mengantisipasi laju shuttlecock yang lambat yang biasanya digunakan di Malaysia.

"Di Malaysia, shuttlecock yang digunakan biasanya berat, jadi power kami harus ditambah, selain pertahanan juga harus kuat. Supaya biasa bermain dengan shuttlecock yang lambat, saat latihan, ujung shuttlecock-nya ditekuk dulu," kata Kido.

Tahun lalu, Kido/Hendra menjadi sorotan para pesaingnya saat meraih gelar dari dua kejuaraan dalam waktu sebulan, yaitu Hongkong dan China Terbuka. Akan tetapi, setelah itu, baru di China Masters, pekan lalu, Kido/Hendra bisa kembali tampil di partai final.

Selain Fu/Cai, Kido menyebutkan, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong dan Candra Wijaya/Tony Gunawan adalah lawan terberat yang akan dihadapi di Malaysia nanti. "Luluk/Alvent juga sudah main bagus lagi," kata Kido, yang mengalahkan seniornya itu di semifinal China Masters.

Adapun untuk Kejuaraan Dunia, penampilan Kido/Hendra tahun ini akan menjadi yang kedua setelah tahun lalu bermain di Madrid, Spanyol. Saat itu Kido/Hendra tersingkir di perempat final, kalah dari Anthony Clark/Robert Blair (Inggris).

Secara keseluruhan, Indonesia gagal mendapat satu gelar pun seperti yang terjadi di Kejuaraan Dunia 1999 dan 2003.
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(quick translation)...
Training with "Turtle" shuttlecock
Written by Kompas
Thursday, 19 July 2007
Jakarta, kompas -Different with the other 2 doubles pairs, Luluk Hadiyanto & Alvent Yulianto and Joko Riyadi & Hendra AG, Markis Kido & Hendra Setiawan did not attend the Philippines Open which was held on July 17-22. Instead they are focusing on the upcoming World Championships, August 13-19, in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
"We are indeed being prepared to play in the World Championships", remarked Kido, on Wednesday (07/18), who competed last weekend in the China Masters and advanced to the Final.
In that tournament, Kido & Hendra lost in the Final against the host's MD pair, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, the opponents whom they defeated when they won the 2006 China Open.
For the upcoming World Championships, Kido stated, the training program he and Hendra take will focus on strength. This matter is being worked on to anticipate the "slower" speed of the shuttlecock, which is usually the case in Malaysia.
"In Malaysia, the shuttelcock is usually heavier/slower, so our strength must be increased, beside having a strong defense. In order for us to play with a heavier shuttlecock, during training, the shuttlecock feathers' tips are being bent(out)", added Kido.
Last yr, Kido/Hendra became a main focus from their competitors after winning titles in 2 tournaments in only a month, which were the HongKong and China Open. But it wasn't until in China Masters, last weekend, where Kido and Hendra were able to reach the Finals.
Besides Fu & Cai, Kido said, Koo Kien Keat & Tan Boon Heong and Candra Wijaya & Tony Gunawan are the toughest opponents which he'll face in Malaysia. "Luluk and Alvent have also played better", added Kido, who defeated his seniors in the semifinals of China Masters.
On top of the World Championships, Kido & Hendra's appearance this yr will be their second time after attending last yr in Madrid, Spain. At that time Kido & Hendra were eliminated in the Quarter Final, losing against Anthony Clark & Robert Blair (England).
Overall, Indonesia failed to win even 1 title just like what happened in the 1999 and 2003 World Championships.
*Boy, i can imagine, that must be some real slow birdies being hit.:eek::p

[Ningtyas]

How far this young Indonesian pair can go?
I saw them play for the first time on 2005 Indo Open final. What a play! They were amazing. Dahsyat!
....
Time will tell, but I do believe that Markis Kidho (not Kido)/Hendra Setiawan have the potential to be the future world champion!


Yes they did! Great job. I did believe that they are capable of becoming World Champion, I just did not expect that they would achieve it in just two years!

Congrats

[Only CW]

congratulations....a nicest birthday present...

[aaron_11]

yeah congrats for kido/setiawan.. well deserved victory for them.. they play really well against LYD/JJS.. especially kido's smashes.. sharp n powerful.. i wonder how a short guy can delivers such a powerful smash *wf... haha.. but sadly they lost all the three meetings wit kkk/tbh.. but tat was last time.. i bet they can easily humiliate kkk/tbh now!!! hahaha...

[Ai Mei]

wew I think today is Hendra's bday
hehe happy birthday to him :D:D
hope he can keep his winning at the upcoming tournaments :D:D

[armortecfans]

wew I think today is Hendra's bday
hehe happy birthday to him :D:D
hope he can keep his winning at the upcoming tournaments :D:D

I think his birthday is tomorrow. Yes, I do hope they can maintain this for the future. The WC title is the great present for Kido and Hendra's birthday.
Go Kido and go Hendra !!!!

[Ai Mei]

I think his birthday is tomorrow. Yes, I do hope they can maintain this for the future. The WC title is the great present for Kido and Hendra's birthday.
Go Kido and go Hendra !!!!
:eek::eek:
but i read at wikipedia that his bday is today (24 August)....:D

[Darien]

yeah congrats for kido/setiawan.. well deserved victory for them.. they play really well against LYD/JJS.. especially kido's smashes.. sharp n powerful.. i wonder how a short guy can delivers such a powerful smash *wf... haha.. but sadly they lost all the three meetings wit kkk/tbh.. but tat was last time.. i bet they can easily humiliate kkk/tbh now!!! hahaha...

yes sir!!!!!!:D

[cooler]

if kido keep playing like that, one day his racket arm will fall off:p

[emmsfan]

Congrats to Kido-Setiawan for getting the world title!! (even though they beat my fav player in the process, actually in the final) It's great that they finally get a world title for Indonesia!! I agree with you, aaron, they might be able to beat KKK-TBh now!! And I LOVE Kido's smashes too!!
The picture of the China Masters is actually quite funny, even though CY-FHF were standing a step lower than the Indonesians, Markis is still shorter than them!!

[ctjcad]

..read in the news the other day, actually Markis missed the award ceremony being held in Jakarta with his teammates, along with Presiden SBY and Menpora's Chairman Adhyaksa Dault, for the reason to accompany his mother who is quite ill. Hope Markis can go through this period with perseverance.:p

[v3nnnn]

..read in the news the other day, actually Markis missed the award ceremony being held in Jakarta with his teammates, along with Presiden SBY and Menpora's Chairman Adhyaksa Dault, for the reason to accompany his mother who is quite ill. Hope Markis can go through this period with perseverance.:p

i think he is accompany his father in Surabaya
hope his dad get well soon!:)

[Ai Mei]

hmm he also didnt come to one of Indonesia's talk show "ceriwis" last Thurday
only hendra,nova n butet came....

[ctjcad]

i think he is accompany his father in Surabaya
hope his dad get well soon!:)
..thanks for confirming, v3nnnn:cool:..I thought the same also, as i saw his picture with his mom welcoming him back at the airport, this past Monday..

[kimpe_bultang]

Congratz to Kindra!! Oh, and, happy belated b'day Ko Hendra!! :D

[badMania]

Happy Belated Birthday to both Kido and Hendra :D

The next aim this year will be to beat BOTH Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun and Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong; and at the same time win more Super Series title.

[huangkwokhau]

Jawapos reported today that Markis Kido has a girlfriend named Richasari Pawestri for 8 yrs.
Apparently they met when they were recruited in Pelatnas and both of them from Jaya raya club.
before that markis Kido was born in Bekasi and started playing at PB Dian Jaya ( Bekasi before moving to Jaya Raya.)
Now Richasari is a coach of PB Purnama in Solo...
He is a big fan of Thierry Henry ( Barcelona)....

[ants]

Thierry Henry Fan huh? Good to hear he and the gf still going strong.

[huangkwokhau]

Thierry Henry Fan huh? Good to hear he and the gf still going strong.

well...now we know he cheated his age ( as per Krisna's )...if paper said that they has been together for 8 yrs, now MK is 23 yrs old and GF is one year younger (22) so basically they have been dating when MK was 15 and GF was 14....very unusual age for dating especially for Indonesians..if I use Krisna's so MK is 25 or 26 and GF is 24 or 25...otherwise it is too young for his GF to be a coach as 22 oyrs of age,,...

[ants]

Hahahah.... thats true.. kekeke.. well as many has mentioned in the other thread about age cheating.

[Sandy]

As I knew Richasari was from Tangkas. She was recruited in to Pelatnas in 2002 (or early 2003) and droped in end of 2003 (in this periode a lot of players less than 1 years stayed in Pelatnas, included Andre Kurniawan). Interesting to watch, why a lot of players from Solo and arround choose to join Jakarta clubs instead of Djarum that near from Solo. I noticed Icuk, Joko, Bambang, Nova Widianto, Hendry/Wandry Kurnia Saputra, Eny Erlangga, Eny Widowati, Richasari until junior player Nandang Arif. Also players from Tegal and arround, Simon Santoso, Hendra Setiawan & Heny Budiman.

Djarum has strong relation with players from Surabaya and arround, Maria Kristin (Tuban), Alan B.K., Yohan H.K., Minarti Timur, Sylvinna Kurniawan, Shendy Puspa, Holvy De Pauw, Arif Rasidi (Surabaya), Chindana Hartono, Wiwis Meyliana (Tuluangagung), Ari Yuli Wahyu (Kediri). Also the Palembang players Fran Kurniawan, Fernando Kurniawan, Chandra Kowi, Yulianti, Lili Siswanti, Debby Susanto, M. Ahsan.

Suryanaga and other clubs around Surabaya had strong relation with players from Yogyakarta and arround, Tri Kusharyanto, Finarsih, Aprilia, Fauzi Adnan.

[huangkwokhau]

As I knew Richasari was from Tangkas. She was recruited in to Pelatnas in 2002 (or early 2003) and droped in end of 2003 (in this periode a lot of players less than 1 years stayed in Pelatnas, included Andre Kurniawan). Interesting to watch, why a lot of players from Solo and arround choose to join Jakarta clubs instead of Djarum that near from Solo. I noticed Icuk, Joko, Bambang, Nova Widianto, Hendry/Wandry Kurnia Saputra, Eny Erlangga, Eny Widowati, Richasari until junior player Nandang Arif. Also players from Tegal and arround, Simon Santoso, Hendra Setiawan & Heny Budiman.

Djarum has strong relation with players from Surabaya and arround, Maria Kristin (Tuban), Alan B.K., Yohan H.K., Minarti Timur, Sylvinna Kurniawan, Shendy Puspa, Holvy De Pauw, Arif Rasidi (Surabaya), Chindana Hartono, Wiwis Meyliana (Tuluangagung), Ari Yuli Wahyu (Kediri). Also the Palembang players Fran Kurniawan, Fernando Kurniawan, Chandra Kowi, Yulianti, Lili Siswanti, Debby Susanto, M. Ahsan.

Suryanaga and other clubs around Surabaya had strong relation with players from Yogyakarta and arround, Tri Kusharyanto, Finarsih, Aprilia, Fauzi Adnan.
Newspaper said that Richasari was from jayaraya....markis mentioned that they both were from Jayaraya club....so which one is right???

[badMania]

Kido and Hendra both ARE from Jaya Raya, the club owned by Ir. Ciputra, one of INA's property tycoons.

There are 4 articles profiling Markis Kido: his background, hobby and comments from Coach (Sigit Pamungkas).

I don't think Kido cheated age that much...I presume he's at most 25 :cool:

Hopefully, Kido's achievement could spur Bona Septano and Pia Zebadiah to train harder so that they can be on par with their older brother. I have a feeling Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan could follow Kido/Hendra's footstep in becoming a world class MD pair :cool: Both are only 20 this year.

[samuel882]

Kido and Hendra both ARE from Jaya Raya, the club owned by Ir. Ciputra, one of INA's property tycoons.

There are 4 articles profiling Markis Kido: his background, hobby and comments from Coach (Sigit Pamungkas).

I don't think Kido cheated age that much...I presume he's at most 25 :cool:

Hopefully, Kido's achievement could spur Bona Septano and Pia Zebadiah to train harder so that they can be on par with their older brother. I have a feeling Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan could follow Kido/Hendra's footstep in becoming a world class MD pair :cool: Both are only 20 this year.

MK should be 25-26.. I don't see many Badminton players of 22-23 years old who can execute so powerful and deceptive smash..
BWF can't do anything about it? Age cheating is a serious issue in sports. :mad:

[GunBlade008]

MK should be 25-26.. I don't see many Badminton players of 22-23 years old who can execute so powerful and deceptive smash..
BWF can't do anything about it? Age cheating is a serious issue in sports. :mad:

Fu's only 23, and he's got the biggest hammer in MD. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, he's been smashing his signature bombs since 2002-2003, when he was only 19.

[taufik-ist]

MK should be 25-26.. I don't see many Badminton players of 22-23 years old who can execute so powerful and deceptive smash..
BWF can't do anything about it? Age cheating is a serious issue in sports. :mad:

TBH can do it.. he's 19 Yo :p..

MK is 23... i've checked it :D

[huangkwokhau]

TBH can do it.. he's 19 Yo :p..

MK is 23... i've checked it :D
haiya...he cheated his age..no way he started dating like 15....so genit lah...:D:D

[taufik-ist]

haiya...he cheated his age..no way he started dating like 15....so genit lah...:D:D

i started dating at 14 :p...

[huangkwokhau]

i started dating at 14 :p...
You?...I cant say anything except...genit luh....:D:D

[samuel882]

TBH can do it.. he's 19 Yo :p..

MK is 23... i've checked it :D

FHY is a rare figures.. TBH :confused::confused: Not that stable yet :rolleyes:

[badMania]

i started dating at 14 :p...

You are so..."Hau" (cantonese) man....haha...:p

[huangkwokhau]

You are so..."Hau" (cantonese) man....haha...:p
Not like my " hau"..okay? :D:D

[badMania]

Not like my " hau"..okay? :D:D

Your "Hau" is different....hehehe :p

[ants]

15? Wow.. i'm a late bloomer then.

[samuel882]

How short is MK in the age of 15?

[taufik-ist]

How short is MK in the age of 15?

140 cm :D :p :rolleyes: :eek: :D

[kimpe_bultang]

OMG!!!! Okay, no offense.. But, that's shooooort!! I'm definitely taller than he was then, I think I am too now.. WooooooW, that's short.. Ehhm, so Kido cheated on his age?? And he didn't get caught??

[taufik-ist]

congratulation... kido/setiawan....

you are # 1 WR today..

[GunBlade008]

wow, congrats :d

[samuel882]

It will be very very tough to maintain NO. 1 position for them..

[hendrawanfan]

what is Hendra Setiawan's chinese name ? :confused:

[ctjcad]

what is Hendra Setiawan's chinese name ? :confused:
...and perhaps decipher his Chinese characters in these links. Sorry, my current computer can't read Chinese characters;):
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664436.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664446.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664450.shtml

[badMania]

...and perhaps decipher his Chinese characters in these links. Sorry, my current computer can't read Chinese characters;):
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664436.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664446.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664450.shtml

That's just a direct translation from his Indonesian name "Heng De La" -- Hendra. I am not sure if he does have a Chinese name like Candra Wijaya or Tony Gunawan. The other younger generation INA shuttlers (Simon Santoso, Sylvinna Kurniawan) do not seem to have Chinese names as well.

[huangkwokhau]

That's just a direct translation from his Indonesian name "Heng De La" -- Hendra. I am not sure if he does have a Chinese name like Candra Wijaya or Tony Gunawan. The other younger generation INA shuttlers (Simon Santoso, Sylvinna Kurniawan) do not seem to have Chinese names as well.
Simon did ...some one post it before...

[hendrawanfan]

...and perhaps decipher his Chinese characters in these links. Sorry, my current computer can't read Chinese characters;):
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664436.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664446.shtml
http://sports.sohu.com/20070819/n251664450.shtml


Thanks heaps , guys...valued info~


how come lots of Indo-chinese can't speak Chinese these days...parent not willing to teach or they just try to localized into Indo.......they should carry the tranditions like Liem Seiw King, Hartono etc....

[badMania]

Simon did ...some one post it before...

His Chinese name is "Si Meng", which is a direct translation from Simon. As far as I know, there's no mention of his "real" Chinese name, unlike Hendrawan, which is "Ye Cheng Wan".

[ctjcad]

That's just a direct translation from his Indonesian name "Heng De La" -- Hendra. I am not sure if he does have a Chinese name like Candra Wijaya or Tony Gunawan. The other younger generation INA shuttlers (Simon Santoso, Sylvinna Kurniawan) do not seem to have Chinese names as well.
..our last resort for this is, none other than....................yannie (yan, mind helping us)..:D:p:cool:

how come lots of Indo-chinese can't speak Chinese these days...parent not willing to teach or they just try to localized into Indo.......they should carry the tranditions like Liem Seiw King, Hartono etc....
..for some explanations, you can go to this thread. From post #16 onwards;):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38637

[Syaoran_Style]

That's just a direct translation from his Indonesian name "Heng De La" -- Hendra. I am not sure if he does have a Chinese name like Candra Wijaya or Tony Gunawan. The other younger generation INA shuttlers (Simon Santoso, Sylvinna Kurniawan) do not seem to have Chinese names as well.

No, Simon Santoso does have a Chinese Name .. it's Lim xxx xxxsomething .. he told me once but i don't remember :(:(

[yannie]

No, Simon Santoso does have a Chinese Name .. it's Lim xxx xxxsomething .. he told me once but i don't remember :(:(

Yeah.. that time at his room.. Hahaha.. no he told US! But we both forgot.. Maybe we'll ask him again.. SOON!

[hendrawanfan]

..our last resort for this is, none other than....................yannie (yan, mind helping us)..:D:p:cool:

..for some explanations, you can go to this thread. From post #16 onwards;):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38637


thanks dude ~ appreciated your help





wish there will be a badminton main man/woman coming out soon in indo badminton which happens to be a Chinese-Indo.......luckily Setiawan is still very young and still got heaps of time to represent Indo...

[yannie]

..our last resort for this is, none other than....................yannie (yan, mind helping us)..:D:p:cool:


Hendra S. doesn't have a Chinese name.. Hahaha I asked him yesterday..

[ctjcad]

Hendra S. doesn't have a Chinese name.. Hahaha I asked him yesterday..
..thanks for confirming that for us, yannie...Hmm, in that case, shall we bestow him a chinese name??..Say, will he accept "Heng De La" for his chinese name??..:confused::rolleyes::)

[yannie]

..thanks for confirming that for us, yannie...Hmm, in that case, shall we bestow him a chinese name??..Say, will he accept "Heng De La" for his chinese name??..:confused::rolleyes::)

Hehehe.. Heng De La is a bit boring.. no? I mean so many Indonesians are called Hendra, then you wanna directly translate his name?? Faint.

[Car_fan]

Erm, if his real name is Markis Kidho, then why does his name appear as "Kido" in tournaments?

[taufik-ist]

Hendra S. doesn't have a Chinese name.. Hahaha I asked him yesterday..

he..he mine either :D... funny... my name is the same as his.. :D

[taufik-ist]

Hehehe.. Heng De La is a bit boring.. no? I mean so many Indonesians are called Hendra, then you wanna directly translate his name?? Faint.

i use one.... :D

[yannie]

Denmark Open 2007:

Saturday - SF:
Kido/Setiawan vs Koo/Tan

[yannie]

Superliga - Summer 2007

[badMania]

I dunno why Indonesians like to add another "h" to Kido and Candra :cool:

[adammohamad]

just like tan boon heong smash....so fast....second rank for the fastest smash after fu haifeng....3rd: markis kido

[ctjcad]

Superliga - Summer 2007
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36503

:)..a synchronized head tilt (well, and almost a 100% pose)..:D:p;)

[kimpe_bultang]

Hahahah.. :D Yeaah.. I just realized that they tilt their head.. hahaha.. only after you mention it, ctjcad.. And, I dunno why too, badmania.. maybe their like it??

[yannie]

Kido-Setiawan WC'07

[meiying]

WAH Markis!!!!!
and someone is sending sms huh..

[yannie]

WAH Markis!!!!!
and someone is sending sms huh..

Why are you so excited when seeing Markis' pic.. Lmaooooooo!!!

[winnie]

Why are you so excited when seeing Markis' pic.. Lmaooooooo!!!
she is excited cos of hendra too!! hahaha lmao.. he so cute leh :p:D:D

[bocah]

some pics of them from Denmark Open ;)

[adammohamad]

kido menangis ke tu??

[yannie]

kido menangis ke tu??

don't understand your question.. hehe, english please? ;)

[ctjcad]

kido menangis ke tu??

don't understand your question.. hehe, english please? ;)
..whether Kido was crying?? (pics above, 3rd pic down).."menangis"=crying..;)

[yannie]

..whether Kido was crying?? (pics above, 3rd pic down).."menangis"=crying..;)

ohhh.. nope? i don't remember him crying during that semifinal match.. ;)

[yannie]

In 2005..... Hahaha kids

[taufik-ist]

In 2005..... Hahaha kids

ha..ha nice pics.... they look innocent :D :D

[george@chongwei]

Kido/Setiawan
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30787&stc=1&d=1177487137

[winnie]

they look so different during their young days

[Oldhand]

they look so different during their young days
Well, the difference is that they look younger :D

It's good to see how focused these two were even when young :)

[king smash]

Another pic of Markis-Hendra

I wonder why sooooooooooo many INA badminton players from are called Hendra. Juniors as well. its just so happend . lol


Why look so unhappy when you've beaten Cai/Fu?
maybe he was so emotional before he beat cai/fu

Hendra S. doesn't have a Chinese name.. Hahaha I asked him yesterday..
woww.. are you close friend from hendra ? you could be proudly cz many people wanted to have a some discussion with him .. so proudly dude !

[king smash]

Kido/Setiawan
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30787&stc=1&d=1177487137
i wanted his t shirt .. its so cool
:D

[ways2rock]

Have just watch their game @ AVIVA Singapore Open SS
What's up with them, really? I am honestly concerned by their progress lately- SO, IO.. And the WC is coming up pretty soon.

Does Kido's knee injury play a huge role to their recent disappointment?

[alvisiny]

Have just watch their game @ AVIVA Singapore Open SS
What's up with them, really? I am honestly concerned by their progress lately- SO, IO.. And the WC is coming up pretty soon.

Does Kido's knee injury play a huge role to their recent disappointment?
I saw at aviva open final ,,,,
they reach final ,,
but their performance dicrease , right?
they lost only straight set with adcock/robertson
they made many mistake

[ctjcad]

Have just watch their game @ AVIVA Singapore Open SS
What's up with them, really? I am honestly concerned by their progress lately- SO, IO.. And the WC is coming up pretty soon.

Does Kido's knee injury play a huge role to their recent disappointment?

I saw at aviva open final ,,,,
they reach final ,,
but their performance dicrease , right?
they lost only straight set with adcock/robertson
they made many mistake
..was at the 2009 BAC in Korea; other than that, they haven't tasted a SS title victory since November of last yr...And they've got less than 2 months to prepare for their MD WC title defense..

[ways2rock]

..was at the 2009 BAC in Korea; other than that, they haven't tasted a SS title victory since November of last yr...And they've got less than 2 months to prepare for their MD WC title defense..

Exactly straight to the point. I heard about Markis Kido's injury, but it shouldn't have pushed them back that far, right? Bao Chunlai with his knee injury still managed to score good on the Singapore SS, why not Kindra?

[maypi]

yaaa i also feel there's something with them
i watched their match during IO like every match and im aware they're totally different with they used to be...i also dont know why...

[jubsjubs]

thats indonesian's players typical..they dont have a strong will to win the game..too lazy to run after the shuttlecock..but i know, they have a good quality..maybe not strong enough mentally..we have to learn it from china n korea's players..look how they run after the shuttle..so sad to see their losts..

[narnia]

thats indonesian's players typical..they dont have a strong will to win the game..too lazy to run after the shuttlecock..but i know, they have a good quality..maybe not strong enough mentally..we have to learn it from china n korea's players..look how they run after the shuttle..so sad to see their losts..

You need to watch 2007 WC Final match or 2008 Beijing Olympics Final.

INA style is quite different with CHN and KOR. Esp. look at Nova, Chandra, Taufik; they are great technicians, they can manage all kinds of shots with limited movement; on the contrary, due to their limited techniques, KOR and CHN should move a lot in the court.

Kido has a long problem with his knee and now it's got serious. You can't play like the past with this problem; even in top matches, very small problem makes very different result.

They did very well but the problem is the injury; many other players have retired due to the injuries. Don't need to say bad to Kindra. :)

[eaglehelang]

thats indonesian's players typical..they dont have a strong will to win the game..too lazy to run after the shuttlecock..but i know, they have a good quality..maybe not strong enough mentally..we have to learn it from china n korea's players..look how they run after the shuttle..so sad to see their losts..

If they're lazy or dont have strong will to win, how in the world did they win 2008 OG Gold, beating top pairs ? When it comes to injury, no matter how determined, if the legs cant carry on faster/longer, then that's it.

[alvisiny]

..was at the 2009 BAC in Korea; other than that, they haven't tasted a SS title victory since November of last yr...And they've got less than 2 months to prepare for their MD WC title defense..
yeah WC in august ....
But they must work hard to prepare themselves
to get MD title ....
cause now their defense and stamina dicrease didnt like in beijing olympic

[alvisiny]

Exactly straight to the point. I heard about Markis Kido's injury, but it shouldn't have pushed them back that far, right? Bao Chunlai with his knee injury still managed to score good on the Singapore SS, why not Kindra?
yeah ...
I see in Aviva open BCL have knee injury but he can get MS title ...
I think Kindra's problem with their stamina too ,,,and their mental ...
If kindra play relax , I think they can get the MS title,right?

[Athelete1234]

yeah ...
I see in Aviva open BCL have knee injury but he can get MS title ...
I think Kindra's problem with their stamina too ,,,and their mental ...
If kindra play relax , I think they can get the MS title,right?
Kido's job is to be in the back hammering smashes down like a madman. If his knee doesn't work, he can't get it done. BCL doesnt' have to be jumpsmashing for his job as much though, so he can rely on other strategies.

[alvisiny]

Kido's job is to be in the back hammering smashes down like a madman. If his knee doesn't work, he can't get it done. BCL doesnt' have to be jumpsmashing for his job as much though, so he can rely on other strategies.
y ...
Markis kido special 4 jumping smash ...

[maypi]

If they're lazy or dont have strong will to win, how in the world did they win 2008 OG Gold, beating top pairs ? When it comes to injury, no matter how determined, if the legs cant carry on faster/longer, then that's it.

ya i agree..its more likely caused by Kido's injury..they're still a great player for me..they have strong will and determination to win...i hope kido will get better soon and not experiencing any injury in the future

[alvisiny]

ya i agree..its more likely caused by Kido's injury..they're still a great player for me..they have strong will and determination to win...i hope kido will get better soon and not experiencing any injury in the future
i hope kido can recovery his stamina and also can solve his injury ,,,
and then can win WC

[maypi]

i hope kido can recovery his stamina and also can solve his injury ,,,
and then can win WC

agreee :D
i'm sure they go far in WC 2009

will they participate in the Phillipines Open GP ??? it's the last prep before WC right??

[jutawin]

agreee :D
i'm sure they go far in WC 2009

will they participate in the Phillipines Open GP ??? it's the last prep before WC right??

i don't think they will participate. It's better for Kido to recover his knee injury..

[jasonmarc]

So sorry to know Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan have to withdraw from WC........because of MK's unstable blood pressure,...so just hope a speedy recovery for MK.......

[xlasher]

You know what .....

Hendra S. should find new partner... honestly in my opinion, kido does not help a lot in the game... problem is hendra has difficulty to adapt with new partner like we've seen in thomas cup , etc. not enough time for him to play with new partner...

Kido ???? find new partner too...

Hendra has a great future as a double player...

I'm sad for hendra...:(

[vming]

I am wondering why Markis Kido, as a pro player still had a hypertension? I believe he is not overweight and has a regular exercise and for sure maintain his health and food. I thought this hypertension happens only on people who never do exercise or eat a lot.

It's just a bad news for Hendra and Markis... I hope Markis recovers soon...

[jiaharng]

The withdrawal of the Olympic champion is a great loss to WC!

Hope they wil get back asap!

[ctjcad]

.. I thought this hypertension happens only on people who never do exercise or eat a lot.
...
..according to news report, he ate A LOT of shellfish:o...Check out the article in the 2009 World Championships's "News" thread..

[george@chongwei]

According to Kompas website, the stocky Markis has high blood pressure and had even fainted once during physical training.
Following advice from coach Sigit Pamungkas, Markis has now been ruled out from the world meet, which will begin in Hyderabad, India, on Monday.
On Wednesday, it was also confirmed that the All-Indonesia Badminton Association (PBSI) had notified the Badminton World Federation (BWF) of Markis-Hendra’s withdrawal.
This is not the first time that Markis has faced such a setback. He was laid low by a knee injury and even took time off from training following the death of his father early this year.

news article from here>> http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/8/7/sports/4470682&sec=sports

[vming]

Markis might be still not in because of that (his father passway, knee injury, etc). But I really feel sorry to Hendra that cannot join in the big events. I think right now he is so frustrated because of it. PBSI must search another player for Hendra ASAP.

Anyway, I still prefer Hendra paired with Markis if Markis still have motivation in this sport.

Anyway, I wish the best for them.

[Dato A]

Markis might be still not in because of that (his father passway, knee injury, etc). But I really feel sorry to Hendra that cannot join in the big events. I think right now he is so frustrated because of it. PBSI must search another player for Hendra ASAP.

Anyway, I still prefer Hendra paired with Markis if Markis still have motivation in this sport.

Anyway, I wish the best for them.

They will still have the chance to play in next year since the event held annually.

[eaglehelang]

<sigh> Cant watch them in action. This is 1st time though I hear seafood/shellfish can aggravate high blood pressure.

[badders2006]

Real shame. IMO when these two are at their best, they are indeed the best doubles pair in the world. In other words, true Olympic Champions.

[alvisiny]

what happened with markis kido ???
he didnt participate in WC ...
and their achivement deacrase than two years later

[george@chongwei]

see page 9 for more info.

[ilovefuhaifeng]

will they be gg for indonesia open?

[ctjcad]

Kido's & Setiawan's next big title is the U.S. Open GP Gold...they've never won this before!:cool:

[george@chongwei]

wah, just know that they will be going to us open too this year!:)

[nokh88]

Sad news :
Courtesy of The Star :

Olympic champs may boycott Paris

SINGAPORE: Indonesia’s Olympic and former world badminton doubles champion Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan are threatening to boycott this month’s World Championships in Paris over a row with their national federation.
The duo, ranked second in the world, are upset because the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) failed to enter them in the China Masters, a leg of the lucrative Super Series tour.
“If we can’t play, then we won’t represent our country in the world meet,” Markis told the Jakarta Globe.
“In our contract with our sponsor, the worlds is not a mandatory event but the China Masters is.
“We were ready to play in Paris and represent our country. In fact, we were going to use our own money just to get there. But I think we have to think things over now.”
The PBSI said the 2007 world champions had failed to file the proper paperwork and therefore could not be entered for the China Masters, which takes place from Sept 14-19.
The World Championships take place in Paris from Aug 23-29. — Reuters

[badMania]

The issues have been resolved.

[nokh88]

The issues have been resolved.

Thanks for the update....but are they or are they not going?

[co_chinesee]

They are confirmed to join Indonesian team in World champ.

[Smichz]

They are confirmed to join Indonesian team in World champ.

Ok..so,are they going to china masters?

[co_chinesee]

Ok..so,are they going to china masters?
For China Master, they were excluded by PBSI, althougt they already register thru their club.
Somehow their province association didn't send it to PBSI.
The reason: MONEY!

[alternat0]

For China Master, they were excluded by PBSI, althougt they already register thru their club.
Somehow their province association didn't send it to PBSI.
The reason: MONEY!

but i heard they will be going to China Masters.

btw, anybody know what FlyPower shoes model Kido/Hendra are wearing now?

[drquick]

KinDra played an evenly match to CaiFu in WC SF until they give up and let the CHN pair crush them by 5 consecutive points in the 1st set and 8 cnsecutive points in the 2nd set both happened after they're level (1st set : 16-16 & 2nd set : 13-13). How could it be ???

[weeyeh]

KinDra played an evenly match to CaiFu in WC SF until they give up and let the CHN pair crush them by 5 consecutive points in the 1st set and 8 cnsecutive points in the 2nd set both happened after they're level (1st set : 16-16 & 2nd set : 13-13). How could it be ???

Very effective chinese strategy of keeping HS out of the rally. CY/FHF'd rather lift to MK than to tempt HS at the net. Since CY/FHF are defending exceptionally well, MK will eventually gives up the attack. MK was also too happy power smashing to mix in a few drops.

Surprisingly, FHF/CY has become a lot more balanced. Quite a few points with CY at the back. I'd say that while we finally have the good old MK back, the chinese pair has evolved.

Despite the lost, I think that match was a spectacle! Definitely a match to remember. Best rally is 13-13.

[Makunouchi]

[QUOTE=weeyeh;1511887]Surprisingly, FHF/CY has become a lot more balanced. , the chinese pair has evolved./QUOTE]

FHF defense these time was remarkable compared before. In terms of skill level they are almost the same. I hope Markis & Hendra improved their mental toughness next time they meet.

[Yoppy]

kido menangis ke tu??
I can read Malay/Indonesian but still dont know what you mean :D:D

[drquick]

Very effective chinese strategy of keeping HS out of the rally. CY/FHF'd rather lift to MK than to tempt HS at the net. Since CY/FHF are defending exceptionally well, MK will eventually gives up the attack. MK was also too happy power smashing to mix in a few drops.

Surprisingly, FHF/CY has become a lot more balanced. Quite a few points with CY at the back. I'd say that while we finally have the good old MK back, the chinese pair has evolved.

Despite the lost, I think that match was a spectacle! Definitely a match to remember. Best rally is 13-13.

I wouldn't be so surprise about that because i already thought that they're much more balance pair compare to KinDra, LYD/JJS & KKK TBH. They just simmillar with Ricky/Rexy of 90's who also good to play either in front and back.

[Yoppy]

Anyone knows what Flypower rackets were HS/MK using during the WC??

[george@chongwei]

Perhaps this thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?88405-Flypower-Enigma-900-and-Vigor-700-Kido-s-and-Hendra-s-new-racquets) can answer your question.

[Yoppy]

Perhaps this thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?88405-Flypower-Enigma-900-and-Vigor-700-Kido-s-and-Hendra-s-new-racquets) can answer your question.
Em..... actually i asked because i saw the pic of MK/HS recently on WC in that thread. It does not look like they were using Enigma and Vigor.

[Makunouchi]

Why is Markis Kido partnering Sigit Budiarto in Indonesian Grand Prix? Is Hendra Setiawan injured?

[Yoppy]

Why is Markis Kido partnering Sigit Budiarto in Indonesian Grand Prix? Is Hendra Setiawan injured?HS does want to play with MK anymore.......just kidding :)

On a serious note, MK is not at the level to play with HS anymore but its just my opinion. Having said that, it also wont be easy to find a replacement for MK especially after they resigned from pelatnas and signed a contract with Flypower.

I guess its not like the time back in the 90s and early 2000 where 5 of INA top MD players (RM, SB, TG, CW and HH) can switch around partners and performed really2 well.

[Makunouchi]

Thanks for info Yoppy. Hope MK would do better or improve some more.

[nick.h]

HS does want to play with MK anymore.......just kidding :)

On a serious note, MK is not at the level to play with HS anymore but its just my opinion. Having said that, it also wont be easy to find a replacement for MK especially after they resigned from pelatnas and signed a contract with Flypower.

I guess its not like the time back in the 90s and early 2000 where 5 of INA top MD players (RM, SB, TG, CW and HH) can switch around partners and performed really2 well.

how do you mean by MK is not at the same level as HS?i mean i've noticed their performances have dropped quite drastically since 08 (due to the high blood pressure ,etc ,etc.) but i think the problem lies within their performances individually, they're not as tactically aware as they were in PBSI...i watched their AE semis against LP/JR this year and quite frankly hendra isnt as threatening at the net anymore and kido's smashes arent as lethal as before either...and the overall picture or INA's MD is really quite worrying...ahsan/bona isnt as good as we all expected having only won philiphines GPG...sigh...sigh...i wish the top 5 players you mentioned were 10 yrs younger...

[Yoppy]

Well as far as i can see HS is still the best player in the net evidently in all recent matches including the TC final againts CY/FHF most of the points scored started with HS moves on the net, i can see the fear and respect of CY/FHF towards HS. IMO HS drop, interception, cross net, net kill are second to none. On the other hand MK smashes are easily returned and oppponents even gave him chances to smash and smash until he droped death or make mistake. MK number of mistake are too high for me. It is a tactic that was intentionally played. Another example of MK decline is the latest result in the INA GP where he partner SB and lost to Moh Ahsan/Bona Sep straight set, it really shows the level where MK is now belong. Sorry if i sound discrediting MK here, its just my opinion. And by no mean playing down his great achievements down the years, Im really greatful to witness such talent of the chubby master :)

[miksss]

What happen to MK ?
Just watched their video against Ko/Yoo in Macau.
Im pity with HS..coz MK keep want to make trick shot but fail and also too many unforced error from MK when HS played so awesome in net shot..and also MK look underestimating the KOR pair..
hope MK realized that! :(

Just wonder if HS didnt accompany MK to leave pelatnas..HS can pair with Ahsan..still remember when Ahsan replaced MK in SC09,HS/Ahsan troubled CY/FHF in 3 sets :cool:

Will HS back to pelatnas?
apparently..no one can pair and has the same level play with HS instead of pelatnas player, Ahsan should be!

[nick.h]

Actually yea, i've jst watched the only set they won against CY/FHF TC final and kido definitely didnt play as well as hendra :( hendra's net tricks were amazing!especially the cross net shots...and kido as you put it wasnt playing at his best!dont think they'll be going back to pelatnas cos they have a signed contract with Flypower and they're making a lot more money by playing by themselves...so...tough luck!

[limsy]

i read it somewhere that kido aiming ag gold
hehe

[Makunouchi]

Will he be still pairing with Hendra in this coming Asian Games?

[Thom_bad]

I guess yes

No more time left to qualify with another partner..

[george@chongwei]

Will he be still pairing with Hendra in this coming Asian Games?
Of course.. they are the current best MD pair in INA.

[Yoppy]

How far this young Indonesian pair can go?
I saw them play for the first time on 2005 Indo Open final. What a play! They were amazing. Dahsyat!

"Untuk bola-bola tipis, Markis dan Hendra memang yang terbaik," said MD coach Herry Iman Pierngadi in Tabloid Bola. Meaning : Markis and Hendra are the best for "bola-bola tipis" (steep shots?).

The Malaysian pair they beat on the semifinal looks so frustrated with Markis/Hendra's attacks. Even Candra and Sigit had no answers for their amazing shots. Until now they have beaten almost all best MD pairs in the world such as Cai/Fu, Sigit/Candra, Jonas/Lars, and Tony/Howard in several tournaments.

It was indeed a huge dissappointment for them when they failed to participate in the 05 WC. But I think it was also *a blessing in disguise*. The failure did give them the highest motivation to prove themselves.
"Kami bertekad untuk meraih gelar sebanyak-banyaknya," say Markis Kido to Seputar Indonesia daily newspaper. (Translation : "We eager to win titles as many as we can.")
"Kami ingin membuktikan bahwa kami layak dikirim ke turnamen berkelas seperti kejuaraan dunia." ("We wish to prove that we deserve to be sent to world-class tournament such as the World Championship").

Time will tell, but I do believe that Markis Kidho (not Kido)/Hendra Setiawan have the potential to be the future world champion!
Times flies, Ningtyas look how far they have gone now in 5 yrs. MK/HS have walked the talked since your 1st post, truely champions

[miksss]

Times flies, Ningtyas look how far they have gone now in 5 yrs. MK/HS have walked the talked since your 1st post, truely champions

hope they can win their" first SS title for this year".. :)

[maa2003]

HS does want to play with MK anymore.......just kidding :)

On a serious note, MK is not at the level to play with HS anymore but its just my opinion. Having said that, it also wont be easy to find a replacement for MK especially after they resigned from pelatnas and signed a contract with Flypower.

I guess its not like the time back in the 90s and early 2000 where 5 of INA top MD players (RM, SB, TG, CW and HH) can switch around partners and performed really2 well.

should add RS (Ricky Subagja) .....:D

[Yoppy]

should add RS (Ricky Subagja) .....:D
Yup he's one of them, but im not too sure if he ever switch partners around

[Yoppy]

hope they can win their" first SS title for this year".. :)
Yes good chance in Denmark SS and France SS, finger crossed

[pejantan]

Yup he's one of them, but im not too sure if he ever switch partners around

world champion with rudy gunawan...CMIIW

[Yoppy]

world champion with rudy gunawan...CMIIW
Wow thats awesome, i did not know that. Thanks for the info....:)

When can INA have their reincarnations again?? Ofcourse this is after MK/HS are gone

[jasonmarc]

Wow thats awesome, i did not know that. Thanks for the info....:)

When can INA have their reincarnations again?? Ofcourse this is after MK/HS are gone

BoSan pair is coming up...............dont worry !

[Yoppy]

BoSan pair is coming up...............dont worry !
many potential pair in INA right now, but whether they can be as good is a different story. Lets see what will happen

[Thom_bad]

Hey they doin well in Odense :)

[Yoppy]

Its so obvious that looking at the performance and sesult from Denmark Open 2010 that MK needs to be replaced if HS to have any chance of glory once again. I took a note and OMG i cant believe how many unforced error that MK made its like mirror the points that HS created. I hope HS still have the motivation to win again, and if so he should realise to find another new bomber.

Its a different story/argument with Tony Gunawan (arguably the best net player ever) could win with different partners, i would say TG would also find it hard to win (at the top level) should he partner MK. Its a shame that perhaps MK suffered big injury blow and now is not the same player as he was before, i hope he also realise that and let HS find a new partner. Whether MK likes it or not HS is still INA best hope for OG gold in 2012 (unless ofcourse the new MD pairs improve a lot in the next 2 yrs or so)

[xavYPC]

hendra need new partner...MK was totally lose his way...he didt set up enought chance for hendra at the net instead he just smash hard to kill which is obviously dont work if you cant cover the left and right court effectively...

[weeyeh]

Yep.. no matter how good you are, you cannot cover for a partner who is throwing away the points. Better change a partner before HS gets settled into the wrong mentality.

[miksss]

I hope HS will back to pelatnas...

[naistav]

That's right. HS should go back to Pelatnas as a reason to leave MK hahaha

[jasonmarc]

I hope HS will back to pelatnas...

I tot he opted to leaves Pelatnas with MK................

[Thom_bad]

Now that they left Pelatnas it may be hard to come back....

[Yoppy]

I think its more of MK injury problem than Pelatnas. HS can still maintain high level whereas MK failed to do so. What HS needs is a new partner, perhaps someone from Djarum or Pelatnas will be interested, who wouldn't interested playing a long side HS? Do they have to be in the pelatnas?? maybe not

[Thom_bad]

He should play with Nova !

[Yoppy]

BTW, does anyone know if MK/HS are still using Tornado 9 & Warrior 8??

[george@chongwei]

The shirt they wore during the final are suitable to wear during chinese new year:D

[Dato A]

My bet is on MK/HS to win the gold medal tomorrow.

So good luck.

[ctjcad]

Good luck to MK & HS in winning, arguably, their biggest title since 2008 OG MD title..

[BadFever]

Wow, never would have thought MK & HS can still get into the Final of a major tournament. Already written off MK long time ago. I think coach Sigit appearance make a big different to this pair. MK seemed calmer and more focus, hence letting HS play at his best game plan rather than trying to cover for his partner. Anyway, good luck to both my favourite MD pairs in the Final tonight. :)

[limsy]

congrats to kido/setiawan
a more stable game in the final compare to malaysia
still have one or 2 more chance for winning ae

[miksss]

MK/HS can retire peacefully in future... AG,OG,SS,WC in pocket already... :D

[undeadshot]

MK/HS can retire peacefully in future... AG,OG,SS,WC in pocket already... :D

They are now the MD version of TH, got everything big!

[wilcan]

They are now the MD version of TH, got everything big!
yes...and with no AE too T_T
hope all 3 of them will get AE next year

[badMania]

With 3 Major Titles in the pocket, these are the titles they have yet to win (in order of importance):
All-England
Indonesia Premier SS (they won the Open version and it will be nice if they can win the first INA Premier SS)
Singapore SS (closest to home, yet, they could only reach the SF and F in the past two years)
India SS (new event, upgraded from GPG)
Korea Premier SS (with the chilly winter condition in Korea, it's unlikely they can win it)

I believe Kido/Hendra will still compete at the London Olympics 2012 (only 28 yo then). So, they have at least 2 more chance at the AE title.

[Babyface]

Great win after having a tougher route to the finals!!.. had a feeling kido was gonna rise to the occasion after performing not so well in the previous SS,,

[ctjcad]

..congrats to MK & HS for the 2010 AG MD Gold and retaining & continuing INA pride & tradition in the AG badminton event..
..and congrats to FlyPower, too!;)

[Yoppy]

Welldone MK/HS especially MK with so many (including) myself written him off. This makes the title even more special and plus winning it using Flypower and batik shirts. I'm so proud of you.

[Blurry D]

The pair really soldier against all odds.. it is great to see them back on their feet once again.....

[Ferrerkiko]

Bros , are MK/HSreally used Flypower racket in the finals , aren't they sponsored by Yonex , they need to use Yonex rackets??

[george@chongwei]

They are independent pair now. Thus, they are not sponsored by yonex and are using flypower racket now..

[jasonmarc]

They are independent pair now. Thus, they are not sponsored by yonex and are using flypower racket now..

and still wins 'major', beating other top pairs..............I solute them !

[Ferrerkiko]

Bros : what , are MK/HS rackets, which flypower model . they using ?

[Yoppy]

HS is using Warrior 7 and MK looks like started to use Enigma. However specs wise they are the same as Warrior 8 and Tornado 9 repectively

[huangkwokhau]

HS is using Warrior 7 and MK looks like started to use Enigma. However specs wise they are the same as Warrior 8 and Tornado 9 repectively

I met Hariyanto Arbi in Pattaya this weekend..he told me that Kido is using new racket with Batik style in it..also they will come out with bags with batik style too

[badMania]

Hariyanto Arbi must be super delighted that Flypower-sponsored Kido/Hendra did him and the country proud.

Yonex-representatives failed big time this time round in the Asian Games.
Li-Ning won 5 Golds.
Victor and Flypower won 1 Gold each.

[BadFever]

I met Hariyanto Arbi in Pattaya this weekend..he told me that Kido is using new racket with Batik style in it..also they will come out with bags with batik style too
Please tell Hariyanto Arbi that he needs to find good distributors or at least a reliable one that can sell his brand online for oversea buyers.
Where can I buy Kido's racket????? :p

[Yoppy]

Please tell Hariyanto Arbi that he needs to find good distributors or at least a reliable one that can sell his brand online for oversea buyers.
Where can I buy Kido's racket????? :p
When you have a chance to go to Sydney, there is one distributor selling Flypower gears including shirts rackets shoes and even socks :)

[Yoppy]

I met Hariyanto Arbi in Pattaya this weekend..he told me that Kido is using new racket with Batik style in it..also they will come out with bags with batik style too
ya looks like it. Did he mention why HS is still using Warrior 7?

Batik bag would be interesting :)

[george@chongwei]

wow, batik racket.. sounds cool though:)

[badMania]

It's confirmed that Coach Sigit Pamungkas will be resigning from Pelatnas to train Kido/Hendra starting from next January onwards. A good move I would say in order to get INA's no 1 pair to stay competitive and hopefully reach their 2 remaining targets: the All-England title and retaining the Olympics Gold.

[Yoppy]

But its not confirmed yet if Sigit Pamungkas will be coaching HS/MK, or is it?

[badMania]

It has been confirmed.

[Yoppy]

Well according to below article Sigit has left PBSI, but:

Badminton
Sigit Leave Cipayung
09/12/2010 11:22:00 Eky Rieuwpassa
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Sigit Pamungkas, matched with Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan. (Tjandra M. Amin / Bolanews)
Coach pelatnas badminton men's doubles, Sigit Pamungkas certainly would resign from Pelatnas Cipayung, East Jakarta.

Chairman of Development of Achievement PB PBSI Lius Pongoh in Jakarta, confirmed the news that the coach who brought Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan won gold medals 2008 Beijing Olympics that will come out of Cipayung.

"True, he had spoken to me and Chris (Kasubid Pelatnas, Christian Hadinata) about it," said Lius are contacted in Jakarta as quoted by Antara on Wednesday (8 / 12).

According to the Lius, Sigit PB Jaya Raya asked his club to keep the 2012 Olympic gold medal chances in the pair Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan who had already left the hostel Cipayung in late 2009.

In an award ceremony for the success of the Jaya Raya Kido / Hendra won the gold medal Asian Games in Guangzhou last week, Sigit said that the 2012 London Olympic medal chances remain to couples who fosterage since 2001 it.

But then, Sigit not yet sure whether he will be out of Pelatnas to handle fully no.3 men's doubles world rankings. "Just wait for further news," he said some time ago.

Kido who contacted separately claimed to be happy if true Sigit will be back to handle it. "O happy, because he had often trained me," said Kido who were playing in Hong Kong Super Series. Besides Kido / Hendra, Sigit also help couples Flandy Limpele / Eng Hian won bronze medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics.

http://www.bolanews.com/raket/badminton/17668-Sigit-Tinggalkan-Cipayung.html

[wilcan]

But its not confirmed yet if Sigit Pamungkas will be coaching HS/MK, or is it?
Sigit leave pelatnas for hs/mk

[miksss]

But its not confirmed yet if Sigit Pamungkas will be coaching HS/MK, or is it?


January, Sigit Handle Kido / Hendra Again
Thursday, December 9, 2010 | 21:55 pm

JAKARTA, Kompas.com - Pelatnas Cipayung Coach, Sigit Pamungkas, will fully handle the pair Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan from January 2011.
"I will begin to actively train Kido / Hendra in January. Maybe i will submit my resignmnet letter in the fourth week of December," Sigit said here on Thursday (9/12/10).
As reported earlier, Sigit will resign from Pelatnas Cipayung to handle Kido / Hendra, who left Pelatnas at the end of 2009.
Although not yet submitted a letter of resignation, Sigit Pelatnas first entered in 1998, claimed to have been socialized resignation to a board, coaches and athletes in Cipayung.
"In principle they accept because I was out also for the sake of badminton. I see Kido / Hendra is also committed, with a note that I have to deal with," he said.
He said his mission to return to Kido / Hendra is the 2012 London Olympics.
"They're still more likely because I see a map of power will still be the same as now. The rival is still that the same thing," he explained.
Sigit also promised not just release the players care (men's doubles) in Pelatnas. He asked his successor will be able to work together on these players.
"I want to Bambang (Supriyanto, Pratt Pelatnas doubles coach) if he went up to double major, so do not be offended if I give such direction to the Bona / Ahsan. Bambang not mind," said Sigit.
Sigit Pelatnas began his career in 1998 as an assistant coach, to then double handle Pratt in 2000.
In 2002 he handled the couple Flandy Limpele / Eng Hian towards the 2004 Olympics, which successfully won the bronze medal. In 2005 he came out of Cipayung and handling Jaya Raya Club, before it was recalled to Pelatnas in 2007 to the present.
Throughout his career dealing with Kido / Hendra, Sigit managed to bring the pair won the world title (2007), Olympic (2008) and the Asian Games (2010).

http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/2010/12/09/21553256/Januari..Sigit.Tangani.Lagi.Kido/Hendra

[Yoppy]

Awesome news!!!

[undeadshot]

MK/HS proved my doubts about them being to sustain their performance wrong again! Congratulations on defeating Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae 21-19; 23-21 and with that performance they are definitely top class, no argument. And I was saying the exact opposite yesterday, LOL. Makes me a fool now.

[badMania]

They have proven that without Sigit, they can still beat their arch-rival Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, this time round in straight-sets.

Having beaten Fang Chieh-Min/Lee Sheng-Mu and Jung/Lee twice in a row, now, it's time to even the scores with Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng and Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen.

Hopefully, the INA pair can peak at the AE 2011.

[Yoppy]

Another very good performance by MK in the HK SS. I feel like a fool now making bad comments about him, he has proven me wrong. In fact, it looks like HS lost a bit (not much) of his magic touch. With a bit of more luck they could win HK SS.

[huangkwokhau]

Another very good performance by MK in the HK SS. I feel like a fool now making bad comments about him, he has proven me wrong. In fact, it looks like HS lost a bit (not much) of his magic touch. With a bit of more luck they could win HK SS.
HS was not focus yesterday and HS is still having knee pain since Asian games...He is flying to Japan for final league against Unissys ( Alvent)
He needs some rests for about 1 week only before SS Final as well as MAS Open and KOR Open...advise him not to take XD seriously in up coming tournaments

[wilcan]

They have proven that without Sigit, they can still beat their arch-rival Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, this time round in straight-sets.

Having beaten Fang Chieh-Min/Lee Sheng-Mu and Jung/Lee twice in a row, now, it's time to even the scores with Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng and Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen.

Hopefully, the INA pair can peak at the AE 2011.
for london game and thomas cup too ;)

[Licin]

I am really hoping that this pair can win the Gold Medal in London OG 2012. Since this is the only reasonable chance from INA team....unless for now...

[Makunouchi]

How come Markis Kido is not paired with Handra Setiawan in the Copenhagan Masters??? Does anybody know???

[Yoppy]

Who did he partner with?

[pBmMalaysia]

yes, who is the new guy partnering kido?

i say hs is still the best partner for kido,

without him, kido is lost:D

anyway, to find another player like hs isn't easy:o

[wilcan]

Kido partnering with Rian Sukmawan in Copenhagen Master
HS still in Japan for Japan league

[Yoppy]

I see, thanks for the info

[Makunouchi]

Kido partnering with Rian Sukmawan in Copenhagen Master
HS still in Japan for Japan league

Hi there wilcan! How come Kido is not with Hendra in the Japan League? Dont they go together as a pair?

[wilcan]

Hi there wilcan! How come Kido is not with Hendra in the Japan League? Dont they go together as a pair?

dunno much more, i read hauge post that said HS play in japan league
maybe the club only can use one foreign player

[Yoppy]

Ami Afriatni | December 14, 2010

Jakarta. After 12 years at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta, coach Sigit Pamungkas has explained why he felt the need to leave.

Sigit announced last week that he was leaving the camp in order to focus on preparing Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan for the 2012 London Olympics.

He said on Tuesday that he made the decision because he believed in the capacity of the top men’s doubles duo to reprise their Olympic gold-winning performance in 2008, despite their recent poor form.

“I think they are still Indonesia’s best chance of winning gold at the London Olympics because I don’t think we will have any younger pairs ready in time to take on the responsibility,” said the 48-year-old Sigit, who started his coaching career as an assistant to Christian Hadinata, the national team head coach, in 1998.

Markis and Hendra have been playing together since 2004.

Sigit has been their mentor since 2005, helping them to win at the world championships in 2007 and the Beijing Olympics two years ago.

Currently ranked No. 4 in the world, Markis and Hendra withdrew from the national training camp in January to return to their club, Jaya Raya.

Sigit decided to quit the camp to train the pair.

“The discussions with them began in Kuala Lumpur when we played in the Thomas Cup in May,” Sigit said.

“We reached a deal after the Asian Games, so I’ll start training them again at Jaya Raya in January next year.”

However, Sigit promised the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) that he would try to help out at the camp on his days off.

“I will try my best to visit them at least three times a week,” the coach said.

Markis welcomed Sigit’s decision, saying: “We’re surprised, but I know he can help us to get back on top again.”

Despite winning the 2010 Asian Games gold medal in Guangzhou in November, the pair has been struggling on the court for most of the season.

They are currently facing a winless Super Series campaign for the first time in their careers.

Their last hope for a title is the season-ending Super Series Finals in Taiwan in January.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/badminton/indonesias-sigit-shows-his-faith-in-08-olympic-doubles-champions/411694