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Eurasian =--(O)
09-28-2005, 11:03 PM
Would it be possible to create a new international badminton league to compete with the IBF? Or at least another league for more tournaments, a league based out of North America with some big North American companies behind it? I seriously believe that once I finish my education and badminton career I could run a more successful badminton franchise. One day after I research this possibility further and if I feel the IBF is still not doing such a great job I will seriously consider trying to start something like this up. Anyone else have anything to add to this idea?

SomeDudeInBlue
09-28-2005, 11:06 PM
Would it be possible to create a new international badminton league to compete with the IBF? Or at least another league for more tournaments, a league based out of North America with some big North American companies behind it? I seriously believe that once I finish my education and badminton career I could run a more successful badminton franchise. One day after I research this possibility further and if I feel the IBF is still not doing such a great job I will seriously consider trying to start something like this up. Anyone else have anything to add to this idea?I would think anyone with dedication and effort can do it. IBF is just an organization. It isn't the supreme overlord.

I dont think IBF is doing a very good job advertising as well. Especially in North America. But hey, it's just my opinion lol

Good luck if you truely want to do something this grand.

ants
09-28-2005, 11:14 PM
American League will be a good start. Take it from there.

__Lam
09-28-2005, 11:19 PM
NABF... North American Badminton Federation :D

jump_smash
09-28-2005, 11:42 PM
Would it be possible to create a new international badminton league to compete with the IBF? Or at least another league for more tournaments, a league based out of North America with some big North American companies behind it? I seriously believe that once I finish my education and badminton career I could run a more successful badminton franchise. One day after I research this possibility further and if I feel the IBF is still not doing such a great job I will seriously consider trying to start something like this up. Anyone else have anything to add to this idea?

Sounds like you want to gover history again, just when Dick Sudirman fixed it!

"His greatest achievement was the organization of the IBF/World Badminton Federation meeting in Bandung in 1979 which eventually led to the unification agreement being signed in Japan on the 24th May, 1981. This work ensured Badminton's place in the Olympic medal sports in 1992. "

taneepak
09-28-2005, 11:43 PM
Would it be possible to create a new international badminton league to compete with the IBF? Or at least another league for more tournaments, a league based out of North America with some big North American companies behind it? I seriously believe that once I finish my education and badminton career I could run a more successful badminton franchise. One day after I research this possibility further and if I feel the IBF is still not doing such a great job I will seriously consider trying to start something like this up. Anyone else have anything to add to this idea?

You have my full support, not because I think IBF is not doing her job well but mainly because the idea will introduce more competition. When you have two governing bodies, they will measure each organization's performance against each other. How nice. And your business plans? You need these, you know, to have the grease to start it rolling.

Loh
09-28-2005, 11:47 PM
I've forgotten the details, but I think in the 1960's there were two conflicting badminton bodies trying to represent Asian badminton. I suppose basically, just like some of us, the parties concerned felt that things were not run the way they should be. Just like some of us who felt that the IBF has failed in certain areas and world badminton is not moving as fast as what we like it to be. And this is despite the fact that the IBF has been established for so many years and is still moving on!

However, in the end the two organizations merged to form into a single entity. "Divided we fall, United we stand" may have something to do with it. For example, instead of having to waste money, time and resources on replicating two sets of services, the savings could be put to better use. And to avoid the unnecessary hostility among competing interests as to who should rightly represent the world badminton body at the Olympics, for instance. Or snide remarks from outsiders "to put one's own house in order first".

Is there any organization in the world that could be considered perfect? Maybe close to perfect for now, but for how long as changes forced by politics, the environment, the competition, etc, will take their toll.

Maybe a better idea is not to reinvent the entire wheel but for an enthusiast who is passionate and committed enough to join force with the established entity and make contributions in areas where he or she deems necessary. :)

taneepak
09-29-2005, 12:09 AM
Sounds like you want to gover history again, just when Dick Sudirman fixed it!

"His greatest achievement was the organization of the IBF/World Badminton Federation meeting in Bandung in 1979 which eventually led to the unification agreement being signed in Japan on the 24th May, 1981. This work ensured Badminton's place in the Olympic medal sports in 1992. "

I think China was the catalyst for the merger. Without merging, a rival organization, led by China would have sent the IBF into oblivion. Prior to the merger, the Chinese world thought that the rest of the world's top players like Earland Kops, Sven Pri etc. were a joke and looked rather foolish claiming themselves to be the world's top players when they were routinely thrashed by the Chinese (they got nil or no more than 3 points) in non-sanctioned matches when visiting China secretly.

ants
09-29-2005, 12:57 AM
When the organisation continue to struggle to compete with others and when there is no exciting anticipation for the future, these are some of the indication that something need to change. Either the leader needs a dramatic change, turnaround or time has come for a new leader with different skills to take charge.

Cheung
09-29-2005, 01:32 AM
Competition may not be so good as it divides the resources.

One reason why badminton lagged behind in the Open era was because of the divide in associations.

You only have to look at boxing and see what a joke is happening with world titles.


Maybe a better idea is not to reinvent the entire wheel but for an enthusiast who is passionate and committed enough to join force with the established entity and make contributions in areas where he or she deems necessary I think this is a better tactic. Or, develop an area in which is relatively underdeveloped.

Mind you, don't Provinces in Canada play against each other in some sort of league anyway? Why not work on building that up?

ants
09-29-2005, 01:38 AM
Personally i think the best is to have OWN LEAGUE in your country. No point to have 2 International badminton FEd. Pll will be confused and players will be too scattered.

DinkAlot
09-29-2005, 05:21 AM
Sure, just about anything is possible if there is $$$ to fund it.

Notnimdab729
09-29-2005, 05:58 AM
Hi,
I think if u think of starting one new governing body, why not follow like the tennis ATP system? Focus on players rather than countries oriented. Countries sometimes have their priorities, just like recently China decided not to send any of their players to Indonesia Open. U might noticed that there were some very good players were not present then. So, the competition was definitely short of some representation!!!:p Afterall, money makes alots of things happen. So, if the incentives are attractive, that the competitions are sponsored by big guys like Nike, Adidas, Yonex or Sporting giants, then, I think countries will still send their best to the tournaments.:D

tinkerbella122
09-29-2005, 05:01 PM
I've forgotten the details, but I think in the 1960's there were two conflicting badminton bodies trying to represent Asian badminton. I suppose basically, just like some of us, the parties concerned felt that things were not run the way they should be. Just like some of us who felt that the IBF has failed in certain areas and world badminton is not moving as fast as what we like it to be. And this is despite the fact that the IBF has been established for so many years and is still moving on!

However, in the end the two organizations merged to form into a single entity. "Divided we fall, United we stand" may have something to do with it. For example, instead of having to waste money, time and resources on replicating two sets of services, the savings could be put to better use. And to avoid the unnecessary hostility among competing interests as to who should rightly represent the world badminton body at the Olympics, for instance. Or snide remarks from outsiders "to put one's own house in order first".

Is there any organization in the world that could be considered perfect? Maybe close to perfect for now, but for how long as changes forced by politics, the environment, the competition, etc, will take their toll.

Maybe a better idea is not to reinvent the entire wheel but for an enthusiast who is passionate and committed enough to join force with the established entity and make contributions in areas where he or she deems necessary. :)

I agree. Unity is ineglectibly important.

splinter
09-30-2005, 08:25 AM
Would it be possible to create a new international badminton league to compete with the IBF? Or at least another league for more tournaments, a league based out of North America with some big North American companies behind it? I seriously believe that once I finish my education and badminton career I could run a more successful badminton franchise. One day after I research this possibility further and if I feel the IBF is still not doing such a great job I will seriously consider trying to start something like this up. Anyone else have anything to add to this idea?

I don't agree with another governing body to compete with IBF.. Since its a governing body.. it should only be the one and only.. its just like in a country.. there can't be 2 kinds of governments running it at the same time or another FIFA (world soccer govening body) to represent world soccer...

It just doesn't sound logical.. What will happen to the rules in particular if the 2 bodies clashes with one another? Which will the umpires and the players follow and adhere to?

My suggestion is to get a petition of all the Badminton Association of individual countries to come together and with the representitives of IBF to review the international tournment schedules and events in order make it badminton more interesting on the international stage..

If it's on country leagues.. i guess it would be up to the Badminton Assoications of the country in particular to make things more interesting..

jug8man
09-30-2005, 09:03 AM
2 international associations? no i dont think that will do much good.

a profit generating profesional set up (some kinda tournament/league format) which can sustain not just a livelihood but make careers for players, officials, organizer and make revenue for big companies to get involve.

it doesnt matter if its done by the international body, country association, or some anonymous badminton website administrator :D as long as the 'product' sells than its good enough for the sport and me.

my 5 cents

8man

LazyBuddy
09-30-2005, 09:24 AM
International league might be a bit too much, both politically (conflict of interests with IBF, further divide up resources in badminton, etc) and financially ($$$).

However, if you start something small, like base on ur city, state/providence, national, or even region, u will definitely get my vote! If you can get the US market actively involved into badminton, that will be a huge bonus to the sport itself. :)

extremenanopowe
09-30-2005, 10:09 AM
If there's a sponsor, definitely possible. Else, the current IBF will need to hire a super salesman/marketing man to grow the game. Also, the game have to take action since young, this is where it'll create awareness about this great game.:D
We, the badtizens should do our part as well to encourage young players to pick it up.
rgds.

Eurasian =--(O)
09-30-2005, 08:27 PM
International league might be a bit too much, both politically (conflict of interests with IBF, further divide up resources in badminton, etc) and financially ($$$).

However, if you start something small, like base on ur city, state/providence, national, or even region, u will definitely get my vote! If you can get the US market actively involved into badminton, that will be a huge bonus to the sport itself. :)

lol im Canadian but a north american league would be cool. I'm definately no where near trying to set up any leage though... far too young and inexperienced. Maybe in 10-20 years time...

wedgewenis
09-30-2005, 10:18 PM
I couldn't care less about the IBF

i just get really scared and angry when they threaten to change badminton to get it airtime on some tv network that doesnt' care about it in the first place.

SomeDudeInBlue
09-30-2005, 10:51 PM
I couldn't care less about the IBF

i just get really scared and angry when they threaten to change badminton to get it airtime on some tv network that doesnt' care about it in the first place.ESPN = Sports Channel. I think ESPN did a great job in the first place to show the games.

DaN_fAn
10-01-2005, 07:56 AM
i really do not think we need any anti-IBF organisation.The IBF may not be doing great but really there is no need for such a thing.We do not want competition and rivalry within the sport.Instead we should be competing with other Sports[with a single governing body]

Offtopic-
However i think one really good idea of developing the game would be to have something like an annual world league or tournament with a hell lot of $$$.The only difference being that NO ASIANS being allowed to take part.Only Europeans,Africans,Americans,Australians allowed to take part.I think this would be the best way of bringing in more countries from other continents into the Sport as well as players from other lower Badminton Playing Countries a chance to earn good money in the absence of the Asians and take up badminton proffesionally.this will really widen the pool of players and Badminton will become more colourful.Ex-Look how Nathan/Gail alone have done in promoting the sport.We REALLY need players from different regions of the world.

So such a tournament held annually with a lot of $$$ by a national body or the IBF.May sound unusual,but i think this is a good idea.
What's your say?

DinkAlot
10-01-2005, 08:29 AM
ESPN = Sports Channel. I think ESPN did a great job in the first place to show the games.

Yeah, but even though I really like Dwight Stones, he's not a Badminton Commentator; nor is Kevin Han. :p

We need Gillian Clark:

"That's unbelieeeeevable!"
"Oh my, that's lovely."

:D

adidas_lee
10-01-2005, 10:21 AM
Hi,
I dont think by excluding Asians, U can promote this game in the other continents successfully. U can do that by not having "Open" in their respectively nations.if u want to have international game, then I think u got to have the best from all over the world. if not, where is the standard? Are yr players d best? Or how are u going to rank them?Or compare them to d best? U got to play with the best in order to know where u stand............at least know where u are lagging behind and to train harder to catch up and beat them for that matter.;)
Adios.
Adidas:D