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armortec800
10-09-2005, 03:04 AM
In Bangkok, for the price of the string, I can have my racket strung with a Yonex electronic machine. What are you opinion of the stringer skills vs such a machine? the lady stringer seems like well trained to handle this machine. I no longer second guess if the manual machines are really strung to the tension I specified.

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/7585/yonex17lg.jpg

Pete LSD
10-09-2005, 04:42 AM
One picture can not tell much about the stringer's skill. There is, what looks like, a plastic padding at the head support.

Yes, electronic and drop-weight machines are much more accurate and consistent than spring-loaded ones.

DinkAlot
10-09-2005, 10:02 AM
Dang that stringing machine is BALLAR! I want one. :p

Anyone know how much it costs and where to buy? :eek:

Any specs, links? Thanks.

scchang
10-09-2005, 11:44 AM
Great, Dan. If you did get one. :->

Here is the link and price.

http://www.badmintonmaster.com/product.php?id=154&PHPSESSID=bc0cd068d0bf363375bb302ce1cb6b36

3500 Euro's....

-SC


Dang that stringing machine is BALLAR! I want one. :p

Anyone know how much it costs and where to buy? :eek:

Any specs, links? Thanks.

ants
10-09-2005, 03:45 PM
I saw how the lady did the stringing. She's not too bad. More for commercial. However since its an electronic stringing machine. Its good enough.

armortec800
10-10-2005, 10:50 AM
Hi Ants,
You know the lady? That is the famous WTC Yonex shop. But I think all the Yonex shops in BKK use the electronic machines for the stringing job. I was in a hurry as New Sport nearby needed 2 hours, so I have to go to WTC, it took her less than 30 minutes. :)


I saw how the lady did the stringing. She's not too bad. More for commercial. However since its an electronic stringing machine. Its good enough.

jerby
10-10-2005, 11:10 AM
30 minutes? wow...
i do 45 with my drop-weight...

is the eletric just faster..or does she have skills?

DinkAlot
10-10-2005, 11:27 AM
Great, Dan. If you did get one. :->

-SC

Dang! ~$4,300 US for a stringing machine?! :eek: Well, I guess it is the best-of-the-best...but too rich for my blood. I'll just stick with my ST-200 for now. :D

Pete LSD
10-10-2005, 01:17 PM
Babolat Sensor & Senor Expert are a lot more expensive.


Dang! ~$4,300 US for a stringing machine?! :eek: Well, I guess it is the best-of-the-best...but too rich for my blood. I'll just stick with my ST-200 for now. :D

DinkAlot
10-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Babolat Sensor & Senor Expert are a lot more expensive.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Holy...cow!

DinkAlot
10-10-2005, 01:23 PM
30 minutes? wow...
i do 45 with my drop-weight...

is the eletric just faster..or does she have skills?

Both. :p Yes, in general electric is faster than a drop weight. Electric is a no-brainer, just line-up the string and push the button.

ants
10-10-2005, 01:35 PM
Hi Ants,
You know the lady? That is the famous WTC Yonex shop. But I think all the Yonex shops in BKK use the electronic machines for the stringing job. I was in a hurry as New Sport nearby needed 2 hours, so I have to go to WTC, it took her less than 30 minutes. :)

Yup i know the lady. Sometimes i do ask her to let me do my own stringing if i happened to be there. :)
But of course if anything happen to the machine.. i have to shoulder the cost of fixing it. If the racket breaks.. well thats my problem. :crying:

armortec800
10-10-2005, 07:12 PM
The lady was very fast with the machine. I stood there for minutes to observe how her fingers triggered the puller, fast! The puller was surely powered by a servo motor inside.State-of-the-art!

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7751/es55mw.jpg

armortec800
10-10-2005, 07:23 PM
Ants,

Do give her some tips on stringing techniques when you are there. :D


Yup i know the lady. Sometimes i do ask her to let me do my own stringing if i happened to be there. :)
But of course if anything happen to the machine.. i have to shoulder the cost of fixing it. If the racket breaks.. well thats my problem. :crying:

Pete LSD
10-10-2005, 07:32 PM
It looks like a 360 degree machine. No wonder the Yonex stringers at WC05 were able to tension the centre 2 mains at once.

Babolat Sensor starts at USD5,000 and go up to USD6,000 something. The Sensor Expert is USD8,000 something.

Armotec800, did you ask the lady to add 5% prestretch to the string tension?

Neil Nicholls
10-11-2005, 02:57 AM
It looks like a 360 degree machine. No wonder the Yonex stringers at WC05 were able to tension the centre 2 mains at once.
huh? :confused:

DinkAlot
10-11-2005, 06:52 AM
huh? :confused:

Same here, huh?

Neil Nicholls
10-11-2005, 07:32 AM
Now that I'm awake, all I can think that Pete LSD meant was that the turntable is at a height such that the racquet handle passes above the tension head.

I believe not all machines are like this. Some have the turntable lower so that the string is not pulled at a vertical angle to the frame. This is probably better for consistent pulling, but slightly inconvenient in that you can't turn the turntable through 360 degrees because the tension head gets in the way of the racquet handle.

edit:
dunno what he meant about the 2 centre mains at once, unless it was to do with pulling both ends of the string that come out of the throat at the same time, which doesn't sound like a good idea at all.

armortec800
10-11-2005, 08:36 AM
Pete LSD,
I did not. I am new to all these. :D


It looks like a 360 degree machine. No wonder the Yonex stringers at WC05 were able to tension the centre 2 mains at once.

Babolat Sensor starts at USD5,000 and go up to USD6,000 something. The Sensor Expert is USD8,000 something.

Armotec800, did you ask the lady to add 5% prestretch to the string tension?

lumix
10-12-2005, 06:30 AM
I have been to the Yonex Bangkok shop before and I wanted my 4U AT800DE TH to be strung at 26lbs, 2 lbs higher than the recommended tension. The lady refused. :crying:

coops241180
10-12-2005, 06:52 AM
I have been to the Yonex Bangkok shop before and I wanted my 4U AT800DE TH to be strung at 26lbs, 2 lbs higher than the recommended tension. The lady refused. :crying:

lol.. imagine if the machine was made by NASA.. sheesh.. 30kgs tension instead of 30lbs! oops... exploding racquets comes to mind :eek::D

DinkAlot
10-12-2005, 08:53 AM
I have been to the Yonex Bangkok shop before and I wanted my 4U AT800DE TH to be strung at 26lbs, 2 lbs higher than the recommended tension. The lady refused. :crying:

This is probably because Yonex/Thailand tells them not to do so due to warranty claims (minimizing them). I know one Yonex shop here that frowns upon stringing higher than the Yonex recommended tensions as well.

jerby
10-12-2005, 10:52 AM
lol.. imagine if the machine was made by NASA.. sheesh.. 30kgs tension instead of 30lbs! oops... exploding racquets comes to mind :eek::D
funny you mention it...

teh first time my dad tried to string a racket he misplaced the weight (drop weight machine) he set teh weight at 8 kg....but he measured form the bottom of teh weight..in steda of teh top...racket splitted at 3 'o clock...guess a ti-6 can't take 18kg...

ants
10-29-2005, 02:15 PM
Ants,

Do give her some tips on stringing techniques when you are there. :D


I did and she strung 2 of my rackets at 26lbs and 27lbs. Which they dont usually strung for their customers.

Pete LSD
10-29-2005, 03:53 PM
Did you ask her to inserts one pad (leather or plastic) into the head support and one into the throat support?


I did and she strung 2 of my rackets at 26lbs and 27lbs. Which they dont usually strung for their customers.

ants
10-29-2005, 03:57 PM
Did you ask her to inserts one pad (leather or plastic) into the head support and one into the throat support?

Yes i did asked her to do that before.

Pete LSD
10-29-2005, 04:02 PM
How do you find the tension from an electronic machine compared to the crank one you have?


Yes i did asked her to do that before.

ants
10-29-2005, 04:12 PM
How do you find the tension from an electronic machine compared to the crank one you have?

Mercedes of stringing machines. The Tension is accurate and slighly lower than the crank machines. However the headshape is almost perfect when its strung with the Espro.

Pete LSD
10-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Heh! That means you overcalibrated your crank machine :D . So, what tips did you give her this time?


Mercedes of stringing machines. The Tension is accurate and slighly lower than the crank machines. However the headshape is almost perfect when its strung with the Espro.

ants
10-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Heh! That means you overcalibrated your crank machine :D . So, what tips did you give her this time?


Yeah, i think i over calibrated my machine. I'm still waiting for my German made Laser calibrator.

Btw they have 2 Espro for your info. I was telling her not to be too rough to the strings when using the awl on them.

Pete LSD
10-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Hmm, the moment you walk out the door she would continue to use the awl the same rough way - string and racquet.

What is the brand of the German laser calibrator? Do you the company's website?


Yeah, i think i over calibrated my machine. I'm still waiting for my German made Laser calibrator.

Btw they have 2 Espro for your info. I was telling her not to be too rough to the strings when using the awl on them.

ants
10-29-2005, 04:29 PM
Hmm, the moment you walk out the door she would continue to use the awl the same rough way - string and racquet.

What is the brand of the German laser calibrator? Do you the company's website?


HAhaha you are right about that. Well probably she want to have it done faster. If its her racket.. maybe she might do it slower hehehe. :D
I cant remembered what is the name of the laser calibrator. As for as i know they dont have a website. Will post some pics once i get it in November.

lmallier
11-05-2005, 06:35 PM
I just went yesterday to the WTC shop in bkk to get a NS8000 and chatted a little bit with the girls doint the stringing job. In my opinion they can string extremely fast thanks to this anice Yonex machine but i am quite unsure about the quality of the stringing technique. Is there a specific stringing pattern recommended by Yonex for each racket (or at least line e.g. Armortec, NS, MP etc...)?


Thanks in advance.

lmallier
11-05-2005, 06:56 PM
Ok I found some interesting info on the Forum concerning the stringing techniques for AT800 and NS. This Forum is a real gold mine:) .

BTW how do i edit my previous post?

ants
11-05-2005, 06:58 PM
Ok I found some interesting info on the Forum concerning the stringing techniques for AT800 and NS. This Forum is a real gold mine:) .

BTW how do i edit my previous post?


Its ok , you can just leave it as it is. :) Btw the staffs there does pretty good job in stringing now. The lady who does stringing plays badminton as well.

fishmilk
11-08-2005, 01:14 AM
with minimal training (such as even reading the manual) this machine is pretty foolproof. very simple techniques are required such as pulling the crosses in a V pattern to avoid friction burn, getting through shared holes, proper tying of the knots... other than that I don't see how they can go wrong...

Pete LSD
11-08-2005, 01:36 AM
Thing can go wrong by not following Yonex's stringing pattern ;) :p :D .


with minimal training (such as even reading the manual) this machine is pretty foolproof. very simple techniques are required such as pulling the crosses in a V pattern to avoid friction burn, getting through shared holes, proper tying of the knots... other than that I don't see how they can go wrong...

ants
11-08-2005, 04:11 AM
Its kind of funny that they allow me to string the TH racket up to 29lbs and when i gave them my SP racket they don't allow. But then i manage to get away with it. Heheheh

fishmilk
11-10-2005, 12:50 AM
Its kind of funny that they allow me to string the TH racket up to 29lbs and when i gave them my SP racket they don't allow. But then i manage to get away with it. Heheheh

I alway have this thing...if a stringer says no to a tension such as 24lbs which i've used and KNOW it won't break the frame. i'll tell them i won't hold them responsible if it breaks, and they STILL won't do the frame... what's the point?

ants why do you need 29lbs? you're a beast!

ants
11-18-2005, 10:06 AM
I alway have this thing...if a stringer says no to a tension such as 24lbs which i've used and KNOW it won't break the frame. i'll tell them i won't hold them responsible if it breaks, and they STILL won't do the frame... what's the point?

ants why do you need 29lbs? you're a beast!


Just for the fun of it. Actually the racket i wont be using and since the tension will drop day by day , i might as well strung it higher tension. :)

Btw you can really feel the difference between electronic machine compare to the manual ones. String bed feels tight and the tension hold much better. Even the sound sounds the same after many games.

Pete LSD
11-18-2005, 07:39 PM
Exactly, Fishmilk and I enjoy enjoy constant-pull string jobs :) . Yes, the sound and tension just last so much longer especially at high tension :D .

Klang
11-20-2005, 11:09 AM
wow! that machine is cool compare with the manual stringing machine that i use to see. I havent seen this kind of electronic machine in malaysia yet.Its real cool~~~~~

ants
11-20-2005, 11:16 AM
wow! that machine is cool compare with the manual stringing machine that i use to see. I havent seen this kind of electronic machine in malaysia yet.Its real cool~~~~~


You can find it in Pertama complex. But not a Yonex machine. I think it is a Wilson electronic stringing machine if i'm not mistaken.

ants
11-20-2005, 11:56 AM
Thing can go wrong by not following Yonex's stringing pattern ;) :p :D .


Good thing it doesnt happen to my racket. Once i pre weaved my own racket which does not follow the Yonex stringing pattern. And i let her strung it for me there. :)